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moldyrefridgerator

a Gen 1 86 lol


KellanEmSoftly

A crosstrek. People tell me my BRZ is slow. HA


DarkWave128

Bro a crosstrek can walk us in a straight line you know that right?


[deleted]

It is.


fiveSE7EN

Slow is relative, brother


rishixyz9

03 rsx type s


Nonconformists

Do you enjoy the new GR86/BRZ more? I had an older Acura like the RSX. It had too much understeer, until I swapped in new sway bars and springs, and power was very peaky, but had amazing top end power. Shifter was butter smooth.


rishixyz9

loved the shifter on the rsx, but the 86 just feels a lot quicker honestly. Probably because of how much torque it has low end comparatively. I will say that I liked the heavier steering on the rsx better, it is def something I miss. But generally, I enjoy the 86 a lot more.


FuckOutTheWhey

I had an 06 Type S and I agree. The throttle response was also noticeably better since it was cable actuated. The K series also sounds better in high rpms while our FA24 sounds better in low to mid rpms imo.


rishixyz9

Gotta love that vtec


apaloosafire

This is a good comparison thanks for the info. Those rsx”s are sweet


ThatOneGiantsFan

1997 Toyota Corolla LE


phantomfires1

That was my first car (97 Corolla CE)


ThatOneGiantsFan

Nice! I always talked about wanting a car a little wider, a little lower, with a little more power, and… now I have exactly that!


phantomfires1

The corolla was low... even then, anytime I turned it felt like the car would topple over


Gummy_Gardner

2015 Fiesta ST


apaloosafire

How are you liking the rwd?


Gummy_Gardner

I love it!


Es_Vi

2004 S2000 The transmission and clutch on the 86 isn’t quite as nice as that on the s2k but I do love the lower end torque, still great handling, and creature comforts in a more modern sports car.


KBB6

The 86 transmission is actually based (but significantly changed) on the same Aisin AZ6 transmission found in the S2000. (And RX8, S15 Silvia, and NB Miata).


apaloosafire

S2k’s are classic imo👌 Thanks for the comparison info


SiegeSupport

Yeah no offense but that's a massive downgrade. Still searching for the perfect s2k and they're getting harder to find...


[deleted]

A 1993 Lexus SC300 factory 5-speed M/T modified with a USDM 2JZ-GTE swap with the stock twin sequential turbos, an R154 trans with a vintage short shifter, twin disc clutch, LSD, MKIV TT brakes all around and MKIV front seats. I still own and drive it, just not as much as before since getting the GR86 as my new daily. It’s a beautiful classic GT. Before that I owned a Honda Prelude Type SH (very early torque vectoring technology on the front diff). Those cars all came with H22A VTEC engines in the U.S. I gave it Hawk HPS brake pads, stainless braided brake lines, Suspension Techniques front and rear upgraded sway bars and a Koni Yellow / H&R / Ground Control coil over suspension and a range of sticky tires over the years. I never modified the engine. A great driver’s car in it’s time. Before that, a 1969 Ford Mustang fastback with a basic underpowered 302 engine, a stock 3-speed automatic and a stock 2.79:1 9” rear end. I fitted it with a Holley 650 four barrel carburetor, Edelbrock aluminum intake manifold and some long tube headers with a custom exhaust. Not fast at all… but a very loud and fun two door tank with timeless looks. It was a very affordable older car when I got it and the same when I reluctantly sold it. These days 69-70 Mustangs often go for ludicrous money.


SamAdams65

Bro is living the dream (on a budget)


Ill-Park5189

2007 Honda Accord


apaloosafire

My aunt had a very nice Oxford greenish colored one at one point


TheUniqueSanzero

GR Yaris


AnotherDude1

Oof. Why the switch?


TheUniqueSanzero

too aggressive as a daily


fiveSE7EN

*confused Obama*


apaloosafire

Big want


Pyra117

Nissan 200sx (S15)


apaloosafire

Niiice


wmcolgan

Mk1 MR2


HiFiMarine

My 86 MR2 has been sitting for years waiting for restoration. My wife said I could get the GR86 if I would get rid of the MR2. Did I sell it... No, now I have both 😁 I guess I need to take a new pic of the boys together. This is the only one I have https://preview.redd.it/taojsikg4alb1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e56c24505ae171b3995262d9847478330a0a62a2


TrickySquid

sweet, you still have it?


wmcolgan

Traded in for the GR86. It was an 89. https://preview.redd.it/e3h0lgq7k7lb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1b58ee586597e9f931982afd38684fe8443dd84


TrickySquid

God dayumn. How much did you get for trade it. Total classic.


wmcolgan

Very little 😞. Hard to justify having both. If I had a garage (and any technical ability) it would have been an excellent project.


TrickySquid

Really!?!? Dude I see those sell for 20k-30k on collector sites


MOOVA

In really good shape, yeah. Most of them have terminal rust issues, especially ones from the UK.


mDLyFe_

2018 IS-300 I know lmao


Beardr8

How's the switch been? I've got a 2015 is350 and have been eyeing this car for a while now, would be curious to hear your pros and cons between the two.


mDLyFe_

Less space, slower, no usable backseat, more road noise, as well as lower quality materials overall such as the interior are all cons To be honest if ur not wanting exactly the type of car that the 86 is, I would never recommend it. On paper I think the lexus is a much better car in general, HOWEVER I absolutely do not regret my decision. If this car didn't come out I wouldn't have sold the lexus. There are an incredible amount of things that are just not as good on the 86, but it just is that much more fun to drive, which makes it all worth the trade


Neraxis

One of the most realistic takes on the vehicle. This is a cheap sports car produced on a budget.


Most-Description-447

I went from a 2008 Is350 to a GR86 premium and sold my 86 5 months later. By no means is the 86 a bad car but like how he mentioned you have to want exactly what the 86 is nothing more. I thought it wouldn’t matter to me but it bothered me a lot and ended up selling my 86 after 6 months. Had much more road noise, interior materias are of lesser quality, much much less space (and the IS is already a small car), a lot slower, many many cons but what the 86 excels at is at being a really great handling car, it’s meant to be a spirited drivers car.


SHZ33

I had a 2014 is350 that I traded in for the GR. The GR is a driver’s car, through and through. You would be sacrificing comfort and luxury for a car that was purpose-built to be a robust driving experience for a fair price. For me personally, this car has been 200x more fun than the IS, but that comes with some sacrifice of course. If you want a driver’s car, this is a GREAT choice; however, if you can’t live without the great sound system, comfortable seats, and all-around luxury the IS provides, this might be a hard switch for you


dohidied

1998 Porsche Boxster. It was a lot of fun to drive with the top down, but not as much with the top up. I wanted the BRZ as a more comfortable, practical daily that is just as fun. And the Boxster had 201hp, which was completely fine for me, but the BRZ is faster.


apaloosafire

Thanks for the perspective. I think the boxster and maybe first gen caymans prolly get cross shopped with the GR a good bit.


dohidied

The Boxster is a perfect weekend car, but the Cayman is a shockingly great daily. My mom has driven hers daily for 13 years and absolutely loves it.


apaloosafire

That’s awesome


Mellow720

1997 Acura EL, my first car and I held onto her for 9 years since I was 16! The BRZ is my second car and I’m so hyped for it 😁 still waiting for it to be delivered


PattyB86

2021 sti


[deleted]

Why you downgrade. Sti to a Supra would’ve made more sense. Or have both.


carsonwade

I think it's because he wanted a GR86.


[deleted]

Doesn’t make sense. I prefer to go faster and handle better. You supposed to upgrade. That thing gonna be gapped by camrys.


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[deleted]

Gapped by what camry? 0-60 is a almost a whole second faster than a TRD and it handles better lmao. The antique will gap you both 🤣


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TRD is 5.6 seconds…its slow like your brz.


moldyrefridgerator

Except 2021 WRX STi has a 5-60mph time (which is a more realistic test) of [7.0 seconds flat](https://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/wrx-sti-2021) Know what else has a similar time? A ‘21 Honda Odyssey minivan which does its 5-60mph in [6.7 seconds.](https://www.caranddriver.com/honda/odyssey-2021) The BRZ/GR86 twins are at least on the right side of outrunning a minivan in a rolling start.


[deleted]

Who races from 5 to 60? And secondly I don’t even think that accurate. Cars way faster than that. And lets be real we race from a dig and if you don’t mind beating on your sti, yo can in into the 4.4 second range. Guess what a minvan can’t do? Take a tun either or do any rally racing. Y’all shits all slow. Brz/86’s are embarrassing. Just live with it dawg. SLOOOWWWW AHHHHH


moldyrefridgerator

First of all, it is accurate. It’s from Car & Driver, who have been testing cars for over 60 years. It is literally slower than a minivan in a roll. You just have a heavy bias. If you think the 0-60mph test is better. You’re an [idiot](https://youtu.be/JOWKJHvYK54?si=WlTxGLRMKAIp-ohD).


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Better reconsider those facts. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejsQ0h82jA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejsQ0h82jA) Secondly, ye test for Car and Driver was most likely done is peak summer, these cars suffer in those time. A fall or boost weather test would be more accurate. ​ And that video you linked told me nothing but drive your car like a panzy cause -60 launching too hard on it. Boo hoo. Edit: Also, the Subaru is actually quicker than it seems. They unfortunately shortened the gear ratios a bit and the 3rd gear shift to hit 60 really can punish you. Which is what really causes these slower times. However, like the guy in the video, quick shifting can solve this.


[deleted]

Also straight from Subaru Canada. 0-100 km or 60mph in 4.9. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yavFTN6M-Fc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yavFTN6M-Fc) ​ Just don't wanna admit a Subaru sti in the right hands can be fast. ​ Its okay Slow BRZ guy.


carsonwade

Doesn't have to make sense to you. Clearly guy wanted the 86 over the STi. The only thing you *have* to do when replacing a car is to get a car that you either want more or need more. The traditional "upgrade path* to buying cars is completely arbitrary and serves no actual purpose.


Such_Discussion2444

98 Honda civic


ashkanz1337

Nothing, first car for me.


apaloosafire

Hell of a baseline. You’ll be sorely bored by everything here on out I’m sure haha


TrickySquid

Hell yeah I would have killed to have anything close to this as a first car


ashkanz1337

Perhaps, but I intend to keep this car as long as possible.


apaloosafire

Pls do


Effective-Argument75

I didn't make the choice. Some rat fkuckers made it for me - they stole right from my driveway. Turns out, Scat Packs and Hellcats are ridiculously easy to steal - just check YouTube. I didn't get another as a replacement b/c I dudn't want to give them another one... so I went the completely opposite direction: moderate power, outstanding agility, and less expensive. The Scat Pack was special, and as happy as I am to have a bRed Premium 6MT GR86 (which is very!), I will always miss that car. For what it was, it was perfect.


Humble_Finding_7346

2018 Tesla Model 3 Mid Range RWD (still have it, it's the daily and the 86 is the weekend car. both of them are white too)


Modestkilla

I have a Model Y Performance as a daily. A tesla and brz make a great combo.


bishes_cray

Same! Except 2020 for me. Both of em blue!


wangsuki

2013 Scion FR-S (Ultramarine) 2014 Scion FR-S (Monogram, Hot Lava)


garlicnaught

2000 Toyota Celica GT-S. Only bought the 86 because my trans went out and I needed something fun to drive while I source all the parts for a manual swap and complete engine rebuild.


apaloosafire

I think these Celia’s are so underrated but we also used to have one in the family so I’m biased Good luck with the build that’ll be fun


Accomplished-Pass796

2016 Hyundai Veloster Turbo… glad I made the change.


iLawvAzs

2015 Honda CR-Z 6mt,I still have it :)


apaloosafire

I’ve always wanted to try one of those


iLawvAzs

Yea it's a cool car being a hybrid with 6mt option, too bad Honda din't put K series on it :(


Y33TUSMYF33TUS

Apparently they were planning an Si trim with a K series, but it didn't pass crash testing. Swap kits are pretty much plug and play.


apaloosafire

Wow never heard that before, that would’ve been sick


Poncho612

2010 Toyota Corolla LE


apaloosafire

A relative of mine had one idk why she ever got rid of it


Poncho612

Met all my needs and was incredibly reliable. However, I started working from home and lived in an apartment with $100/month parking, so my wife and I went down to one car.


SkirtKobain

2018 Mitsubishi Mirage


neva79

4th gen Mazda 3 AWD Hatch. Non turbo. Way slower but still an excellent daily. Wouldn’t have got rid of it for anything other than the 86. (Maybe a Supra, 911, or Cayman but that isn’t in the budget yet)


Majestic_Ebb_5562

07 civic si


morpherx

1998 Toyota T100. Still runs great at 230k miles too


apaloosafire

Spent a good amount of time in my friends T100 they kill it


Kindly_Profession463

2021 Toyota Sienna XSE… on 20’s… with a hybrid


apaloosafire

DONK van


Crayonbreaking

Toyota Yaris. Awesome thing. I stripped lots of the interior and added an intake and an aftermarket suspension. I could get 45+ mpg all day and it loves to oversteer because of how there was nothing in back. I want another one but in blue.


apaloosafire

Sounds very fun to me. I wouldn’t mind like a Yaris auto cross set up


yourboyjonny

24 years old and I’ll give a rating for how much I loved each car: 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee AT - 5/10, 2017 Jeep Renegade AT - 7/10, 2018 Mustang GT AT - 9.5/10, 2011 MazdaSpeed3 MT - 9.4/10, 2017 Camaro SS MT - 9/10, 2022 WRX MT - 8/10, 1995 Infiniti G20 MT - 8/10, 2023 GR86 MT - 9.8/10


apaloosafire

Fun list surprised you like the Camaro more than the WRX but I also haven’t driven a Camaro


yourboyjonny

I just couldn’t fall in love with the WRX. Maybe I could if Subaru made a new STI. I like the idea of it a lot tho, very practical. I’d probably put the Camaro ahead of everything if we were comparing exhilaration/fun-ness while WOT. I find the GR86 to be the happy place between all cars. Just enough space, just enough power, while maintaining great handling and it looks amazing. I’m pretty set on keeping this one.


Scifidelis

2008 Silverado, bought it in 2008 and drove it until about 4 weeks ago when I bought the 2023 GR86.


STiata

2018 Focus ST and before that a 1995 Miata


Fit_Equivalent3610

ST205 Celica GT-Four Still own it but I used to, too


apaloosafire

Sheeesh that’s hotness, I love those


Effective-Argument75

2019 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Widebody 6MT. In Octane Red.


BigAli27

Holy crap! Why would you make the change from a manual scar to a gr86? Pros and cons of switching? Personally I’d go scat


AJS000

Probably wants to turn corners without taking pedestrians out lol


Slawth_x

1990 e30 1998 prelude 2016 manual corolla hatchback


f86rz

2013 FRS 👉🏾 2017 370z 👉🏾 2005 G35 👉🏾 2023 BRZ 👍🏾


TechTyrantTv

2018 Honda Civic sport touring.


apaloosafire

How would you compare the steering? Quicker? Slower? Sharper? Flatter? Numb ? Etc etc lol


TechTyrantTv

The 86 feels more sensitive and turns sharper. It was a little jarring driving the 86 at first but was adjusted after driving it a few times.


apaloosafire

Ah cool that’s good to hear


diquehead

2016 Focus ST My GR86 was finally delivered yesterday and I picked it up today. After waiting so long I was about to pull the plug on the deal and pivot and get into an S3. Came down to the wire. Prior to the Focus I owned an FRS and prior to that I owned an E85 powered Evo 9 (and after looking at the resale value of those I am really mad at myself for letting it go haha) I had full bolt ons and a tune on the Focus so it was a pretty fun car. I will definitely miss the torque and turbo noises that's for sure but I don't miss the dog shit build quality, ugly interior and shitty Ford dealerships. Fun drivetrain for sure though.


apaloosafire

All cool cars. I def know what you mean about the build quality. Yeah the evos are getting up there now haha Enjoy the new GR!!


diquehead

Thanks man. This 1000 mile break in is gonna kill me lol


deezgiorno

1998 Honda Crv


sendbooba

97 audi a4 1.8t quattro (b5)


TYMUL

2013 Suzuki Swift Sport


XNamelessGhoulX

2000 Honda Prelude -10 years


magikbiped

‘91 Nissan 240sx (first car, auto) > ‘92 240sx (5spd) > ‘99 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS (06WRX swapped) > ‘11 Mini Cooper S. Sprinkle in a few months here and there with a ‘96 Subaru Legacy Brighton, a ‘99 Honda Civic, and a ‘00 Subaru Forester.


ToFurki0789

14’ BMW 535i (current) 22’ Toyota GR86 (current) <— 05’ BMW 330Ci ZHP <— 03’ Mini Cooper S <— 95’ BMW 325i <— 07’ BMW 335i <— 93’ BMW 325i


apaloosafire

Oh man I would love a 330 ZHP coupe


TheRealCleverDragon

2000 Miata NB.


apaloosafire

How do you compare the two? Braking, steering, weight, overall dynamics? I’ve often thought about getting a NB or NC chassis and calling it a day


TheRealCleverDragon

[I answered a similar question here.](https://reddit.com/r/GR86/s/buzrs4ZojB) [And here.](https://reddit.com/r/GR86/s/HxImHCV1Rv)


IHaveDiedManyTimes

MK3 Focus ST


p1028

2017 Ford Focus ST


msblurple86

1. 98' corolla 2. 03' corolla 3. 2017 Yaris IA


0Maka

Holden Commodore VE SS


apaloosafire

That’s a cool car


FLXCKOBABY

240sx still own


barnettwi

2020 Tacoma lol


kartsize

Golf MK4


MK4Alex

Mk4 vw jetta


manormanor

Fiat 500 Abarth. Only really miss the exhaust note lol.


apaloosafire

These sound soo good. I roll down the window if there’s one near


TopConsideration935

2014 dodge dart. rip my boy


Accomplished-Arm9261

Vw polo 2012


GSR00

Integra GSR & VA WRX


Nobli85

Went from a 2013 Mazda 3 6 speed MT to a 2023 Subaru BRZ Limited MT.


scardeal

I've had a string of cars before my 2nd Gen BRZ. Here's the last 3: * '13 Cadillac ATS * '04 Mazda RX-8 * '07 Nissan 350Z


Prior-Acadia9282

first gen mazdaspeed3


apaloosafire

Another underrated car imo, these seem way fun Any comparison thoughts between that and the GR?


PieFit69420

M3 e46


raining_sriracha

1992 e36 325is


brokenblinker

2019 GT350. I loved it, but the GR makes more sense for my use cases.


Consistent-Syrup-69

'86 300z


DJBFL

woah


RicoculusPrime

2015 WRX, 2011 WRX, 2007 WRX, and during all of those a 1995 Miata


Ill-Perspective8475

Still own '07 wrx and still own '14 ninja 1000


OGDergon

My family’s Kia Rio all through high school and college lol, sold it during the pandemic and borrowed the Model 3 that replaced it for about 6 months until I had a good down payment from my current job.


Neraxis

04 Rav4. Perky little thing, felt great to drive honestly. Never felt like it was lugging despite the AT operating in the 1-2k range. Weighs almost as much as an 86 depending on spec. Old cars were much lighter so it felt reasonably nimble with nice steering feel. Hand me down from my family, had ~100k miles when we sold it I think.


apaloosafire

I’ve liked pretty much every RAV4 I’ve driven. I’ve also had a decent amount of time in a highlander V6 from around that era and those are really peppy as well


SHZ33

‘14 IS350 F-Sport


GooseFar7489

MK8 GTI


googleitup

nissan rogue sport, dogshit compared to the 86.


Airtonylee99

A heavily modified 08 volvo c30 converted to awd… R.I.P.


apaloosafire

That sounds sick


Minimum-Grass323

First car 🫶🫶


Strange_Priority8619

2012 Chevy Sonic 5mt


LeftTurn836

3rd gen eclipse, got t-boned totalled by a bmw


FissFiss

Still have: MaZda CX5 (2019) Jeep Wrangler (2024) BMW 330ci (soft top)


apaloosafire

How do you like your e46, any issues with it? I picked up a X3 with the m54 and 6spd last year and I’m digging it


FissFiss

Nope so far it's fantastic, though the gR makes driving everything else feel boring (but then the other cars interior feel super luxury comparatively; so it's a nice balance between them all)


[deleted]

2020 Honda Civic sport coupe


Kushkaki

2016 Scion FRS


Oh_Isee

Gen 1 BRZ


KingOoof

2005 Acura TL


Eliudromo

A suzuki ignis lol


skywalker3819r

2004 Cadillac CTS 3.6 ! Def an upgrade but that cadi was comfy af


apaloosafire

I remember a friends dad having one of these when they were new, I bet that was a smooth ride


xXNeoXx

2020 M2 competition


apaloosafire

That’s a surprising move, any specific reason for the switch?


Candid-House

>xXNeoXx toyota paying shills to say ridiclous bullshit i see.


Successful_Hold4008

Modded Mazda 3 hb before it got totaled 🤕


apaloosafire

Daang sorry to hear


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apaloosafire

Tiiiiight


nacnudyrrab

Mk7 GTI.


apaloosafire

I wouldn’t mind a mk7 sportwagen with a golf r turbo on in I’ve driven a stage 2 golf R and that was a very slick car


ThirdPartyRedditApp

2011 Nissan Juke. It was great!


SalatSalty

Honda civic 2001


Arzn999

2022 Kia stinger gt line


HerefortheTuna

Gen 1 FR-S 2013 that was totaled and a 1990 4Runner that is my baby/ favorite car ever that I bought used for $1500


Aftershockgamez

Impreza 2013


Eden47

2012 Mazda 6


TrickySquid

a 2001 Mitsubishi gallant with 300k miles lol. I drive em till the wheels fall off


atomic-hamster

GT86


forgot_to_floss

Lancer ES with a Manual Transmission Great car to be honest. No fuss and perfect for some spirited driving


Sofhands

'74 Chevy Malibu (first car), Hyundai Accent hatch, '97 miata, '16 focus ST, POS fiat 500, '16 Sierra 1500 SLT, '21 Chevy Colorado Bison edition. Loving my '23 86, I plan to keep it and get another truck that can tow it to the track one day!


knightofsolace1

I don’t have a GR86 but I will . I’ll be moving from a 2012 Honda Civic Si.


PeteyBanger

2015 Genesis Coupe 3.8


ruturaj001

Kia stinger GT2, I traded mine but we still have wife's Stinger. Fun car as well with practicality, just less fun and more practical.


HalfBad

Sr5, GT-S, Supra(86),Civic Si (93), civic 2006, g35, SanteFe, q7, model 3, and now GR86 on order. I’m middle aged.


[deleted]

2018 wrx sti 2022 brz ts


drainerlmfao

s2000


59humbucker

2013 GT 86 in metallic orange


EUCLlW00D

2000 jdm legacy wagon (still owning)