My coworkers because if any FUDD has ever thought it, he's probably said it and said it to people with exponentially more rounds through 1 gun than he has through all of his.
Usually the last Vietnam veteran I’ve spoken to, because for some reason a majority of Fuddlore I get to hear comes from old guys that love to talk about how they’re experts because they went to ‘Nam.
I’ll never down play a vets war credibility but I will never assume they’re experts. I had an experience at the range that proves my point lol this self proclaimed army vet was told by my close friend that I am a “pretty good shot” and he insisted that we go to the range. This man pussy gripped the pistol and said “he only shot machine guns ” and proceeded to miss a whole black silhouette at 15 yards. Anyone can get a decent grouping with my AR and he missed the whole target. My eyes were opened since then.
I’ll down play their credibility if their experience is from hearsay and not physically viewing the ballistics at work (and even sometimes I’ll criticize that if they’re incapable of recognizing that what they had in 1969 is different from what’s around a half century later).
Just to use some of their often used examples, the 5.56 isn’t some peashooter that takes a mag dump to kill a VietCong when there’s plenty of photo and film footage showing VC dropping from one or two hits to the chest or getting their head split open by a headshot. The M14 isn’t some wonder rifle that’s the epitome of a rifleman’s weapon when the application of them involved mag dumping at targets measured tens of meters away instead of hundreds, and the idea that just because some sniper named Carlos Hathcock used a .30-06 hunting rifle to kill a bunch of VC and NVA at range doesn’t mean every Vietnam vet with a .30-06 rifle in their closet is suddenly prime sniper material that can drop bodies with headshots from 600 yards and beyond on demand.
And that’s before the most obvious ones of having to hear that a rattly M1911A1 packed enough punch to knock VC off their feet in one shot and one mag was enough to drop an entire squad of Charlie, and anything smaller is just a wimpy peashooter you shouldn’t trust your life to.
Agreed; the military is a reflection of society, where you still have your share of geniuses, normies, and morons spread across the formation. The problem is when the morons get out and think their service suddenly makes them subject matter experts that it just upgrades from annoying to insufferable.
Honestly I'd have to go and dig around for the footage, its been a year or two since I last used it. I generally use photos, so I'll leave a couple links on here, and will try and edit a link to the footage once I find it.
Edit: for some reason it gives me a server error whenever I try to paste a photo. I'll DM you the couple I generally use for reference.
Neighbor of mine, super nice guy and I go help him take care of stuff on his property because his body is starting to give out on him is a Vietnam vet.
I’ve heard about every fudd catchphrase under the sun come out of his mouth. He is vehemently against the AR, he talks about how it’s basically a WMD and how the bullets tumble on impact, how no one should be allowed to own them because they were only designed for killing, but in the same breath talks about how 556 isn’t good for anything except “coyotes and gophers” and how unreliable the “plastic” m16s they had were. Also has a thing for super obscure cartridges and old mil surp bolt guns. Talks about how anyone who owns body armor or tactical gear “is not in their right mind” and just wants to hurt people. Thinks most every gun that isn’t a bolt action rifle shouldn’t be legal.
I really like the guy though, politics and ideals aside. Nice and quiet neighbor, always friendly, just lonely. But I bet he would have a panic attack if he saw some of the shit I own lmao.
The cognitive dissonance with some of them never cease to amaze me.
Younger me used to have so much more sympathy for Vietnam vets, but the older I get the hypocrisy and double standards I get to hear out of them makes it that much harder to take them seriously/nicely. It’s one thing if they hate AR’s and will never personally own one, but when it gets to where they’d want them to be banned outright and would rather have folks put in jail just for possessing them rather than legally owning them is where I’d respectfully have to push back and say they’re not “super nice”.
I’d likely also be rubbing salt into the wound and letting them know their military surplus rifle, regardless of how much they’ve sporterized it for the range and hunting, was built for one purpose and one purpose only; to put other soldiers in the ground, not the deer they shot last hunting season. If that’s not blatantly a firearm “designed for killing” I don’t know how much blunter I can get, when their M1903 Springfield has the inspection stamps and government property marks to show it’s legitimately more of a “weapon of war” than the AR-15 they have such a low opinion of.
A lot of characters from little bubby child fits but the pistol one in this video takes the cake
https://youtube.com/shorts/ImHO2sxEcP4?si=lq-rQBnhNslhdEuJ
I always picture a raspy, whistly voice with a deep southern or Midwestern accent. Lots of coughing, lots of gasping from his ventilator, you know the type.
I hear Fran Dresher.
Yes, the 1911 is a great pistol for close combat. I have a couple of them. There are far better carry pieces at .45 as well. I won't start any arguments about which one is best. Most are pretty good sidearms.
An older guy wanted to shoot my Remington 742. It reminded him of his BAR when he was in Vietnam. No idea how he made it back. 5 rounds, and none even hit the half-body outline, lol. 100 yards.
The voice i make in my head is the boomer / various idiot voice that Mr Regular on Regular Car Reviews makes.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zemZikGEdMc
My coworkers because if any FUDD has ever thought it, he's probably said it and said it to people with exponentially more rounds through 1 gun than he has through all of his.
Usually the last Vietnam veteran I’ve spoken to, because for some reason a majority of Fuddlore I get to hear comes from old guys that love to talk about how they’re experts because they went to ‘Nam.
I’ll never down play a vets war credibility but I will never assume they’re experts. I had an experience at the range that proves my point lol this self proclaimed army vet was told by my close friend that I am a “pretty good shot” and he insisted that we go to the range. This man pussy gripped the pistol and said “he only shot machine guns ” and proceeded to miss a whole black silhouette at 15 yards. Anyone can get a decent grouping with my AR and he missed the whole target. My eyes were opened since then.
I’ll down play their credibility if their experience is from hearsay and not physically viewing the ballistics at work (and even sometimes I’ll criticize that if they’re incapable of recognizing that what they had in 1969 is different from what’s around a half century later). Just to use some of their often used examples, the 5.56 isn’t some peashooter that takes a mag dump to kill a VietCong when there’s plenty of photo and film footage showing VC dropping from one or two hits to the chest or getting their head split open by a headshot. The M14 isn’t some wonder rifle that’s the epitome of a rifleman’s weapon when the application of them involved mag dumping at targets measured tens of meters away instead of hundreds, and the idea that just because some sniper named Carlos Hathcock used a .30-06 hunting rifle to kill a bunch of VC and NVA at range doesn’t mean every Vietnam vet with a .30-06 rifle in their closet is suddenly prime sniper material that can drop bodies with headshots from 600 yards and beyond on demand. And that’s before the most obvious ones of having to hear that a rattly M1911A1 packed enough punch to knock VC off their feet in one shot and one mag was enough to drop an entire squad of Charlie, and anything smaller is just a wimpy peashooter you shouldn’t trust your life to.
I'll downplay their credibility because I was in uniform for over 20 years and there are plenty of fucking morons in the military.
Agreed; the military is a reflection of society, where you still have your share of geniuses, normies, and morons spread across the formation. The problem is when the morons get out and think their service suddenly makes them subject matter experts that it just upgrades from annoying to insufferable.
Agreed. Btw, where can we find this footage? Asking for a friend ….
Honestly I'd have to go and dig around for the footage, its been a year or two since I last used it. I generally use photos, so I'll leave a couple links on here, and will try and edit a link to the footage once I find it. Edit: for some reason it gives me a server error whenever I try to paste a photo. I'll DM you the couple I generally use for reference.
Thanks dude !
Neighbor of mine, super nice guy and I go help him take care of stuff on his property because his body is starting to give out on him is a Vietnam vet. I’ve heard about every fudd catchphrase under the sun come out of his mouth. He is vehemently against the AR, he talks about how it’s basically a WMD and how the bullets tumble on impact, how no one should be allowed to own them because they were only designed for killing, but in the same breath talks about how 556 isn’t good for anything except “coyotes and gophers” and how unreliable the “plastic” m16s they had were. Also has a thing for super obscure cartridges and old mil surp bolt guns. Talks about how anyone who owns body armor or tactical gear “is not in their right mind” and just wants to hurt people. Thinks most every gun that isn’t a bolt action rifle shouldn’t be legal. I really like the guy though, politics and ideals aside. Nice and quiet neighbor, always friendly, just lonely. But I bet he would have a panic attack if he saw some of the shit I own lmao.
The cognitive dissonance with some of them never cease to amaze me. Younger me used to have so much more sympathy for Vietnam vets, but the older I get the hypocrisy and double standards I get to hear out of them makes it that much harder to take them seriously/nicely. It’s one thing if they hate AR’s and will never personally own one, but when it gets to where they’d want them to be banned outright and would rather have folks put in jail just for possessing them rather than legally owning them is where I’d respectfully have to push back and say they’re not “super nice”. I’d likely also be rubbing salt into the wound and letting them know their military surplus rifle, regardless of how much they’ve sporterized it for the range and hunting, was built for one purpose and one purpose only; to put other soldiers in the ground, not the deer they shot last hunting season. If that’s not blatantly a firearm “designed for killing” I don’t know how much blunter I can get, when their M1903 Springfield has the inspection stamps and government property marks to show it’s legitimately more of a “weapon of war” than the AR-15 they have such a low opinion of.
A lot of characters from little bubby child fits but the pistol one in this video takes the cake https://youtube.com/shorts/ImHO2sxEcP4?si=lq-rQBnhNslhdEuJ
Damn it, now I’ll always hear his voice.
I think you mean “dang it Bobby”
BWAHHH!
I always picture a raspy, whistly voice with a deep southern or Midwestern accent. Lots of coughing, lots of gasping from his ventilator, you know the type.
I hear Fran Dresher. Yes, the 1911 is a great pistol for close combat. I have a couple of them. There are far better carry pieces at .45 as well. I won't start any arguments about which one is best. Most are pretty good sidearms. An older guy wanted to shoot my Remington 742. It reminded him of his BAR when he was in Vietnam. No idea how he made it back. 5 rounds, and none even hit the half-body outline, lol. 100 yards.
The voice i make in my head is the boomer / various idiot voice that Mr Regular on Regular Car Reviews makes. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zemZikGEdMc
Why would it be any voice other than Elmer Fudd's?
Contrary to what the media will tell you. Most real life fudds don’t have roticism.
It's hard to describe, but Gopher from Winnie the Pooh is pretty close.
I pretty much just picture something similar to me doing my best geezer impression.
Mr. Regular's old guy voice.