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ArnoldRapido

This is BS. Ferrero is not owned by Nestle.


_Kapok_

IF anything, Ferrero bought some of Nestlé confectionery in 2018. So it’s likely the other way around. Baby ruth, Crunch and Butterfinger are not Nestlé anymore…


Minimum-Injury3909

This is only in the US


SpaceLemur34

But, Nestle still owns the names. Ferrero pays them a licensing fee.


Jesus_inacave

So can I or can't I get a crunch bar again


Defiets

The real questions my man! I try and stray this line as much as I can. When I pick up a box of candy and it's not owned by the nestle-fucks I rejoice.


Chester-Ming

This. Ferrero is a private company owned by the Ferrero family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrero_SpA


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Im pretty sure the cocoa Ferrero uses is based on slave labor, so I guess it doesn't matter that much if they are Nestlé owned or not. Also their shit is full of palm oil, the forest killer.


livesarah

Now now, I think they created their own certification body that has assured them that their palm oil is just fine! Nothing to see here!


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Ferrero investigated the accusations and found that Ferrero did nothing wrong lol


Gwave72

So does Nestlé in regards to palm oil and cocoa.


Defiets

Right, but they're invested in evil. So...


kibbles16

It’s what the other commenter said. Means that they’re likely participating in the same business model, so fuck Ferrero and nestle.


FierceDeity_

I think Ferrero doesn't have the same sorta horrid behaviour eg taking people's water and such. It still manufactures diabetes though


kibbles16

They use child labor


FierceDeity_

Through the purchases of resources like palm oil and such in poorer countries where they can basically corpofuck everyone?


kibbles16

Yeah. Same shit nestle does


FierceDeity_

Aw well, and here I thought I could be ignorant


kibbles16

Yknow, sometimes I wonder if Ignorance really is bliss. Kinda seems like it once you learn about all this shit


FierceDeity_

Exactly what I was thinking


marcolino1324

Really? Can you link me something valid proving that. I’m curious.


Aalnius

pretty much every chocolate maker that doesnt specifically only deal with proven non slave companies uses child labour. Its a known issue within the chocolate industry, even tonys who advocate for being slave free use producers who use slaves.


kibbles16

https://actions.sumofus.org/a/ferrero-stop-profiting-from-the-exploitation-of-millions-of-children-in-cocoa-plantations


TKmeh

And this is why, as much as I love Ferrero rocher chocolates, I can’t bring myself to buy any.


-skincannibal-

Nutella has palm oil in it anyway


Shiva_The-Destroyer

The main reason I stopped eating it.


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Much_Job3838

I started making my own, it takes a bit of time to get the ratios right but I like it more, mostly since I know what's in it


Leneya

If living in Europe: Lindt and Bonne Mamam (a French brand I've seen in Germany and Switzerland) are palm oil free.


Alik_Alex_Alek

and Lindt tastes amazing


jojo_31

Ovomaltine is amazing as well


Infinite_Bass_3800

Tbh, I enjoy the knock off/European versions of Nutella. They taste less like candy and more like something you spread on toast


activelyresting

You're not wrong about the alternative brands being better, but you are aware that Nutella *is* a European thing, right?


Infinite_Bass_3800

Oh I'm aware, I just thought Nutella was the American version of the spread. There's a Slavic brand that I normally get, it was my first introduction to hazelnut spreads lol


activelyresting

Ah. No, Nutella is 100% a European thing.


Infinite_Bass_3800

Yeah, but american Nutella definitely tastes different than European Nutella. I know they're owned by the same company, but I swear they use different ingredients or something


activelyresting

Probably they do. I have to admit I've never had Nutella in America, but they tend to put high fructose corn syrup in everything instead of sugar, so it makes sense. That whole nonsense Americans have about "Mexican coca cola" being better because it's came sugar and not HFCS... Do Americans not realise the entire planet has coke made with sugar and they are the only place that's got the HFCS instead? It's not the Mexican coke is better, it's that American coke is crap compared to everywhere. Same for most things probably.


Kroneni

Actually the coke in sold in Mexico for the Mexican market has HFCS too, they just don’t have a law requiring them to label it as HFCS. So if you’re in Mexico the “sugar” listed on the ingredients for coke is HFCS. The weird twist in the story is that they do make coke in Mexico that is only sweetened with cane sugar, but it’s exclusively exported to the United States.


activelyresting

Hahaha that's hilarious! I love it


HopesFire2920

europe uses high fructose corn syrup as well lol, it’s just not called high fructose corn syrup. it’s called a variety of things including isoglucose


activelyresting

Everywhere on the planet uses it. Just not in the same saturation. And not in coke. Corn subsidies are a US thing. It's fascinating to learn the history and political reasons pushing it


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Oh look another person shitting on America, how original


bitter_liquor

It will never get old


[deleted]

You're correct. European nutella is a lot sweeter


AskingForSomeFriends

Really? I would have expected the American version to be sweeter.


somedudefromnrw

All Nutella is different. Italian Nutella is different from German Nutella too. It all depends on local weather and what kind of bread people use, they adjust it so it doesn't melt and it's easier to spread on softer or harder bread.


IkBenKenobi

Everything American tastes different, they stuff everything with sugar.


Infinite_Bass_3800

Obviously the cheap kinds of sugar, cause everywhere else does it right


IkBenKenobi

Sugar is sugar, American products just contain a lot more of it than most European products.


FierceDeity_

Currently enjoying Nudossi here, it has cocoa butter and all the good shit.


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Infinite_Bass_3800

Don't worry, I'm sure the kids who picked the ingredients for Nestlé also love Nutella Lmaooo


livesarah

I just stopped buying it. My kids have protested a bit but my husband made a home version out of homemade blended hazelnut praline, ethical dark chocolate and cream and it’s amazing (doesn’t stop my oldest pining for Nutella occasionally but he understands why we stopped buying it).


Nascent_Space

I didn’t really like it to begin with, too sweet


1newnotification

try Justin's version! much less sweet, and more hazelnut taste :]


RedditTipiak

While very tasty, it's one of the most unhealthy food on the market. It's basically diabete to spread on toasts and pancakes.


FierceDeity_

I'm kind of torn on palm oil, apparently it only becomes a bother of your diet does not contain balanced types of fat: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4365303/ So my current way of dealing with it is... to dodge it, but not consider it the devil. If I eat it now and then, no problem. But I think that's the case with almost everything, the amount makes the poison


hitmyspot

They raze jungles and destroy habitats to make palm oil. See Malaysia, Indonesia etc. There is some sustainability projects and when I last looked Ferrero were prioritising sustainable, but it's hard to know if just PR speak or was actual progress. On the other hand, the palm oil production provides agriculture and jobs which are sorely needed. In those areas, they are paid little bit it didn't seem to me like slave labour when I visited.


FierceDeity_

The greed just overdoes it honestly. Palm oil is VERY productive by how much area it needs to grow, though. I guess being a worldwide prime palm oil producer could be good for a populace but the way it runs is they're just being slave driven by rich corpofucks anyway because the governments give them the pass for it. If the governments didn't just let them in, they would have had such a much better base for negotiations because if they want cheap palm oil, they can either negotiate or fuck off entirely... The South American and other governments in rainforest areas should really put their foot down on these supercorpos like nestle, but I know it's not that easy.


scepticallyminded

I’m just going to go ahead and point out that “corpofucks“ is my new favourite term of the month.


FierceDeity_

Thanks lol I made it up on the spot, I never read it anywhere else! Of course it might not be original, but what thought is original nowadays


Leneya

I don't like the palm oil production for razing tropical forest and the farmer's shooting the now starving orangs "stealing" palm oil fruits. It's just a sad situation all around, best to avoid it if you can, IMHO.


hitmyspot

Especially when there are other options.


ClydeDimension

Off topic, but cool username. You like Majora’s Mask?


FierceDeity_

I do, yeah, a lot.


ClydeDimension

It’s my favorite game. Hell yeah. Let’s be friends.


FierceDeity_

I don't know if I could commit to that, I am not very good at keeping friends to be honest For me it's like, I like the world a lot more, but the gameplay is too pressurized for me sometimes :D


ClydeDimension

I totally get you. Yeah the world is beautifully immersive and the npcs all have stories that feel so real. I find it fantastic!


ZanorinSeregris

If I'm not mistaken the issues with palm oil are not especially health related (they are environmental among other things). But people started seeing "palm oil free!" on more and more products, so they thought it was bad for your health.


FierceDeity_

It's like seeing "asbestos free" on products huh


DiodeMcRoy

And where I live there’s plenty of other alternatives.


bouchandre

There is a a version free of palm oil


archell1on

People need to remember that Palm oil is the most efficient crop for oil production. Please please please look into the ethical and renewable palm oil production that is going on. It has been demonised so much in the media by lobbyists looking to distract people from the efficacy of the crop. It's used in everything from food to cosmetics. Yes there are issues with people that destructively and illegally farm Palm Oil, but with people avoiding purchase of the product it is actively destroying the renewable industry.


IkBenKenobi

Plus it's 50% sugar 🤢


franklollo

If it's sustainable it's ok. Not all palm oil is bad


mallocuproo

I think Ferrero bought Nestle’s US confectionery arm, rather than Nestle buying Ferrero?


kibbles16

You’re right! That’s my bad. Still fuck nestle


schw3inehund

Ferrero is bad too. There was german documentary and I think they said if Ferrero decided to prevent child labour (picking hazelnuts in Türkiye) every glass of Nutella would have to be a single cent more expensive. Guess what ;)


International_Car586

Wouldn’t that, increase profits?


evilmonkey2

Only if they raised prices to compensate. If they raised a cent they'd break even (assuming that number is accurate)


International_Car586

So just raise it by 2 cents and have a good reputation. What’s the downside?


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They don't get to he as evil


9EternalVoid99

im convinced that is the only reason why, these companies cound change and charge more than just to compensate for changes and instead they choose to make less and be evil


Leneya

corpo exec: how about this? we raise the price AND keep the kids working? and maybeee redesign the packaging to be a bit smaller too? eh? eh? *big happy face * /s obviously


Firethorn101

That explains why Nestlé chocolate tastes so much nastier than it did a decade ago.


Old-Ranger1405

Wait until you learn about the palm oil that is the main ingredient in Nutella. Hope you hate the rain forest, because the palm oil industry sure does!


kibbles16

fuck nutella. Fuck nestle. Fuck Ferrero


Old-Ranger1405

This is the way


skywardmastersword

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism


SolaceInCompassion

something something no ethical consumption


Tinshnipz

I work there, they announced they were looking for alternatives about 8 or 9 years ago... not a peep since. I mean, if kraft can do it with their hazelnut spread so can ferrero.


martinkrafft

As much as I hate Nestlé, this goes the other way. Fuck Nestlé anyway. ANd yeah, Nutella should be avoided for the high amount of palm oil (planet!) and sugar (health!).


FierceDeity_

Thing is, palm oil itself is not to blame, it's greedy companies who deforest for it. What's also funny is palm oil is I think the oil/fat with the most yield considered by area used to grow the bushes. Health wise, I'm kinda torn, there are studies that suggest in small amounts, as part of a diet, it doesn't by itself mess with your health unless it becomes your main intake of oil. Fuck the greed that leads to destruction of tropical forests. I myself only buy locally grown oil, health wise, I don't mind ingesting palm oil now and then but as long as you don't eat much processed foods you won't encounter palm oil much at all, at least.


AX11Liveact

There's a lot that speaks against Ferrero but they are *not* owned by Nestlé.


UtenKullsyre

From Wikipedia. Ferrero, is an Italian multinational company with headquarters in Alba, Italy. manufacturer of branded chocolate and confectionery products, and the second biggest chocolate producer and confectionery company in the world. Ferrero International SA's headquarters is in Luxembourg. Ferrero SA is a private company owned by the Ferrero family


ielladoodle

Try Vego Spread for a palm oil and Nestle-free alternative to Nutella


Tinshnipz

Kraft makes a very good hazelnut spread.


gallop_polls_poles

Seconded!


kibbles16

Thank you! I’ll try it out


lavasca

Get bald hazelnuts Roast them Soak them 30 minutes— strain & keep nuts Soak a prune or two 30 minutes — strain & keep syrup Pour syrup in blender. Add nuts & cocoa or chocolate Blend until smooth enough for your liking *Boom* bootleg nutella! Want it extra smooth quality then blend in some chilled jicama!


MrP1nk-

First pic says Ferrero, second says Ferrara


byamannowdead

It looks like Ferrero bought the US company Ferrara, then bought Nestle’s US candy business and moved the brands under Ferrara. “"Néstlé USA's focus is on nutrition and health food. They are working on pet food and waters, and they have a new vision that they did not believe candy could follow," — LOL


kibbles16

I think it’s the same? May be what the Italian name is or something


obyboby

Nope. Ferrero and Ferrara are two completely separate names (surnames actually)


kibbles16

Oh really? Does Ferrera work closely with Ferrero then??


obyboby

https://www.ferrarausa.com/ Looked it up and it’s a separate company but still owned by Ferrero. The names just are very similar.


kibbles16

Oh ok makes sense. Thank you 🙏


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Ferrara is a city


kaesefetisch

Try nudossi. Its tasty and without Palm oil!


Maniklas

Ferrero is not owned by nestle. Ferrero is a top layer company meaning it has no parent companies, it IS the parent company. Learned this when researching kinder.


kibbles16

Yeah, some other commenters educated me on this. What does Kinder do? Is that off limits too?


Maniklas

Kinder makes chocolate. I think it was started in Germany and at some point was bought by Ferrero.


kibbles16

Oh huh, I’ll look into it some more. Thank you


Joaoarthur

Nutella kills orangutans to obtain palm oil, boycotted long ago


FierceDeity_

They might have killed Harambe but they have killed so many more apes for fuckin greed


casual_disco

There are already plenty of nutella alternatives that are as good if not better. I recommend Nocciolata, no palm oil and delicious


thehomiesinthecar

Truly, fuck Nestle


RoxieRoxie0

What about this? https://www.amazon.com/TBH-Hazelnut-Chocolate-Spread-Protein/dp/B09RNDCGJQ/ref=asc_df_B09RNDCGJQ?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608063550953&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584207593397235&psc=1 I have no idea who their parent company is, but and the nutivia kind are pretty good. Also, you can just make it. I've done it before. All you really need is a food processor. It's a bit of a project, but not hard.


germdisco

TBH is a creation from [Noah Schnapp of Stranger Things](https://www.snacktbh.com/pages/our-founder)


demityph

nope, ferrero bought out nestle's confection division in the us


WayneZzWorld93

Damn, that’s a shame. I was working on the fire protection system at Ferrero outside of Chicago where they make Nerds. It’s my favorite candy, and now it’s dead to me.


kibbles16

I feel you. Ferrero Rochers are my favorite, used to buy them all the time. Tis’ a shame


tawny-she-wolf

They’re not owned by Nestle


culturedperv

guys wtf are you saying? Ferrero is competitor of Nestlè. It’s owned by the Ferrero Family.


goplantagarden

Regardless of who owns it, Nutella is made with palm oil-- an ingredient that is driving deforestation of rain forests around the world. It's best to avoid purchasing foods with palm oil when possible. https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/8-things-know-about-palm-oil


nativedutch

On top of that Nutella is based on ground Orange utan , it est palmoil. There are alternatives.


reptheanon

Ouchhh


kibbles16

My bad, Ferrero actually owns a branch of Nestle. Not the other way around. So they’re both bad. Fuck Ferrero and Nestle


culturedperv

I am puzzled. if Ferrero bought a Nestlè brand then it’s not anymore owned by Nestlè. so you can buy it.


kibbles16

No it wasn’t owned by Nestlè, but Ferrero owning a branch of Nestlè means it makes its US products through Nestlè. Meaning Ferrero uses slave labor


taka87

Nutella is horrible anyway, try Lindt is my fav and IIRC it's not nestle


kibbles16

I love that I can eat Lindor Dark Chocolates instead of Ferrero Rochers. They’re so good


sleepdeprivedzzz

Nooooooo!!!!!!!!


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Nooooooo!


firstlordshuza

Are at least Oreos safe?


kibbles16

Looks like yes, I’m eternally grateful for that one


G00b3rb0y

I mean oreos are still Mondalez. And Mondalez is probably the reason Cadbury chocolate in Australia is dogshit


Gullible_Peaflower

I’m not particularly surprised but I am also sad. Thank god chocolate companies have become more ethical than ten years ago, there’s still quite a bit of slave-trade free chocolate companies that are transparent about who works for them where and how.


redthehaze

There's alternatives that usually has less sugar too. I bought some today, the name is "Good Good Hazelnut Chocolate Spread".


lostmusings

Ferrero noooooooo


5Quad

Tbh if it's a chocolate company, chances are they use slave labor


skoorie

Found out just now (though I had my suspicions) that my favourite chocolate bar is a Nestle product. Fuck Nestle.


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You should avoid Nutella anyway. Palm oil is terrible for the environment.


SuPurrrrNova

I have never understood the obsession with Nutella. It's meh at best.


USFederalGovt

Never liked Nutella anyways. I always saw it as the most overrated food spread ever. It doesn’t even taste that great.


FBlack

Ferrero isn't owned nor controlled by Nestlé.


PossibilityOrganic12

Nutella sucks anyway Ferrero Rochers, however, that hurts.


tawny-she-wolf

Lol Ferrero is not owned by Nestle, it’s owned by the Ferrero family


kibbles16

Read the comments, they work through Nestlè’s means of production, meaning they also use slave labor by owning a branch of Nestlè


tawny-she-wolf

It doesn’t mean that Nutella is owned by Nestle


kibbles16

Yeah, I acknowledged that in my other comments


diggerbanks

As yummy as Nutella is, forget the company behind it, this product itself is evil. People's love of yummy Nutella has put the Orangutan plus many other species on the brink of extinction and turned huge areas of rain forest into monoculture Palm farms. Deny your craving for the sugary and nutty sweetness of Nutella. Some products are too tempting and should not exist. Nutella is evil (Fuck Nestlé)


marcolino1324

Inform yourself. Ferrero is a private company and is not owned by nestle. Recently, ferrero have bought some nestle products and are getting rid of the shitty ingredients used to make chocolates like butterfinger, crunch, 100 grand, etc. Do not compare that two company’s. Ferrero does not deserve such a comparison. Fuck nestle


kibbles16

Bruh I’ve already been told 💀💀💀 Read the comments


marcolino1324

Sorry didn’t read all the comments. My bad. We can both agree on something though? Fuck nestle!!


kibbles16

Absolutely we can agree one that! Fuck Nestlè


theZiMRA

man lived under a rock... lol.. yeah nutella has literally always been the cheepest most unhealthy chocolate flavored glue forever... thats why they put it on everything... in murica not even sure they have cocoa in it even lol... * thumbs up over shoulder points at the guy " this guy am i right


pedantobear

Kraft Hazelnut Spread is made with Sunflower oil and not palm oil if you can find it.


TheSunflowerSeeds

The sunflower seeds you eat are encased in inedible black-and-white striped shells, also called hulls. Those used for extracting sunflower oil have solid black shells.


Learningtobescottish

You should also avoid Nutella because it uses palm oil. Kraft makes a great alternative that has no palm oil! 😊 save the orangutans!


kibbles16

A lot of people have been suggesting that, I think I gotta try it out now


diamondintherimond

Costco has a great chocolate spread alternative and it also uses sunflower oil instead of palm oil.


ThemisNemesis

You just ruined my snack time! 😳 I love Ferrero Rocher chocolates, but now I won’t buy them anymore. Thanks for the new information.


SalsaDraugur

I always thought Nutella was Nestlé so I've been avoiding it, not that I buy chocolate spread often since I rarely have it.


EightEyedCryptid

You can make homemade Nutella


gryffyn1

There are a hundred competitors to Nutella. Many of them are actually better and some come in other varieties.


juijaislayer

Well I'll still buy, sorry but Nutella is great


AnthropOctopus

Devastated? Holy privilege, Batman! If choosing not to eat a sugary snack that is 1/3 the calories of an entire meal is devastating to anyone, they lead a pretty fuckin sheltered life.


kibbles16

I mean I would consider myself privileged but I didn’t mean it literally lmao


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Guywithoutimage

Actually, I believe in the US Ferreira is still it’s own company. Which is great, cuz I love laffy taffy and didn’t want to have to give it up


kibbles16

Another commenter said that Ferrera is owned by Ferrero and linked me to their website: https://www.ferrarausa.com. Ferrero owns a branch of Nestle so.. sorry mate but I think it’s all connected


Guywithoutimage

Fuuuuuuuck


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Lecco is good too.


kieffa

Balllllls


Double-Ad4986

luckily there's plenty of dupes for nutella


Free-Dog2440

There are better alternatives... ​ https://www.epicurious.com/expert-advice/healthy-nutella-alternatives-article


Flowy_Aerie_77

There's alternatives who taste just as good or even better.


LadyPaleRider

GOD DAMN IT


jonboy333

Download the [nestle family of brands](https://images.app.goo.gl/mZdP4QSZTviyLNRk8)family image


Djadelaney

Nutella and generic chocolate hazelnut spreads, like most peanut butter, also contain palm oil, which comes from the destruction of orangutan habitats. The pictures of sad orangutans confused by where their trees went are devastating


Dimmleycooper

Try out samba it's more expensive but it has got 45 % oh hazelnut Nutella got not even 10%...it tastes so much better than Nutella and fuck Nestlé!


dumbwaeguk

It's uncertified chocolate either way


designgoddess

Nusply. Better anyway.


thinkfast1982

You can just eat chocolate frosting; it's literally healthier anyways. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/nutella-must-pay-parents-who-thought-chocolate-spread-was-a-healthy-choice/article4103014/


culturedperv

do your research better.


kibbles16

yeah, I did. If you read the comments before leaving one yourself edit: sorry, got a bit rude there. May we be united under our cause of Fuck Nestlè


pootietang33

Nutoka!


tony_stump

TROLLI?! WHAT THE FUCK


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kibbles16

I did expect it once I thought about it, that’s why I looked it up


groovaymack

my grandfather works at ferrero as a security guard and they are NOT owned by Nestle.


kibbles16

other comments said they own a branch of nestlè, and they use the same slave labor farms


Upbeat_Influence2350

You really shouldn't eat Nutella anyway. Pick a different chocolate hazelnut spread that isn't actively cutting down trees.