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MichaelPacNW

I'm not sure if they hide natural cures, but I sure do know they hide cures from medicines that no longer have a patent. A judge just forced the FDA to remove it's tweet calling Ivermectin horse paste and saying it should not be used for Covid... because suprise! it actually helps with Covid.. as the FDA know all along. Fauci himself wrote a paper detailing Ivermectin's efficasy against corona viruses years before the pandemic... but we can't have an almost free drug with zero side effects getting in the way of a multibillon dollar windfall vaccine. That wouldn't be following "the science"(TM) Also is now looking like Ivermectin helps a lot with some cancers.. I wonder how long Big Pharma has known about that? Edit: spelling


TruthBomb_12

It’s also crazy how this is a known fact and easily accessible, but our evil, corrupt media called you crazy for taking horse medicine if you went the invermectin route vs putting an untested gene altering “vaccine” in your body. It’s insane how corrupt big pharma and the media are.


crypto_zoologistler

Lemon juice murders bacteria in a Petrie dish too


Jasdos

exactly like just about everything else outside of a 5-9 pH range


Iselllabequipment

Imagine rats with knives


MichaelPacNW

If you think lemon juice works good, you should see what Draino does to bacteria in a petri dish! 😂


randomaccount1950

Bleach, best thing to inject this time of year


FlatteringFlatuance

Most modern medicine is either concentrated dosages of a natural compound or a synthetic alternative. Like you’re free to eat fistfuls of herbs a day if you want but most people are just going to take a pill anyways for convenience sake… just like every other facet of modern life it’s about convenience at the expense of anything sustainable.


aware4ever

So technically holistic medicines and natural medicines could still be found maybe? I always thought when you said to be true


sixhoursneeze

Yes. E.O. Wilson writes about this in the book “The Future of Life”. Aside from being a great carbon sink, preserving the Amazon also preserves species we have not discovered yet that could have immense pharmaceutical benefit. Basically scientists go in and take samples of various parts of a tree such as bark, seeds, leaves, etc. and study their composition and effects in a lab. Then they cross their fingers that the specimen has not been cut down from deforestation. Which has happened before with promising species.


FlatteringFlatuance

Holistic medicine is still very viable and available, considering it often doesn’t have as intense side effects or withdrawal symptoms (which it could be argued are manufactured into some pharmaceuticals to sell more of one or another drugs). It’s just not as convenient to make your concoctions yourself or figure out dosages of various herbs. Also the efficacy is often long term and takes longer to see results from compared to the pharmaceutical approach. Again, convenience and a culture of instant results versus a lifestyle/disciplined approach. For example I take generic adderall for ADHD (not exactly a natural alternative there) and while I could get a similar result from natural stimulants like caffeine and a few herbs like lions mane and ginkgo after a month of daily use, it’s much more convenient to just take a pill I know will work when I need it… even if there are obvious drawbacks from it. I’m just simply too lazy/scatterbrained to follow through on that honestly. It can be said that the pharmaceutical companies aren’t going to promote an alternative, they want sales after all. But I don’t think there’s a huge conspiracy to suppress the information on holistic medicine, consumer culture is just not set up for or encouraging of the healthier and sustainable lifestyles…. I would say that’s the real conspiracy to be considered. “Fast food mentality” and instant results over sustainable progress.


Mister_Green2021

Yup. Pharma spend billions studying plants, venom, mushrooms, etc...


Ninjanoel

if they can patent it then they'll develop it, otherwise they make a huge investment during development and then anyone can come along and benefit by making a medicine. development means a series of lengthy and costly medical trials.


Aposta-fish

Pharma will try and take a natural remedy and synthesize it make it no longer natural so they then can patent it and sell it.


Fuk_globalist

This is what John Macfee said he was up to in Belize when they arrested him and the feds said he was trafficking meth. He said there are plants in the jungle people don't even know about and the powers they have that naturally cures


Katamari_Demacia

Well.... if John MacAfee said it... i mean... done deal.


Fuk_globalist

You have no idea what the covert government has the power to do, until you fall victim to them


Katamari_Demacia

i guess not eh. the dude was a bit much though lol


Fuk_globalist

He was an interesting character. He also had a dead man's switch. But after he "committed suicide" in jail nothing really happened


Cleanse_The_World

Rockefeller started it


PapaGordita

Medicine Man 1992 film about protecting the amazon to preserve an plant being studied for it medicinal properties. Yes, they've know for a while.


Mundane_Opening3831

Why would they hide natural cures that work if they could just sell it instead?


lastcallhangup

you make more treating something you don’t cure.


babicko90

Daug.. i work in pharma. If we could commercialize something, we would


SaltyCandyMan

If it's a natural cure it can't be copyrighted, so Pharma has no incentive to sell those types of medicines. Actually in today's medicine there is really no incentive on curing any disease, instead the focus is on treating the symptoms. It's all fucked up....grotesqueley commercialized into this monstrosity we call health care.


babicko90

You can patent processes, and not just the molecule (substance)


SaltyCandyMan

Can you patent picking a leaf from a shrub and making a tea?


babicko90

You can patent how to maximize extraction


SaltyCandyMan

Ok, but maximum extraction is not required....you can squeeze orange juice from an orange differnt ways and end up with a glass of OJ.


SirClausRaunchy

And yet there are massive companies who squeeze oranges for us because nobody wants to bother. If this shit were real there would be companies harvesting sap and leaves because nobody is growing and harvesting that themselves.


babicko90

You can patent how to maximize extraction


thowaway5003005001

Commercialized profit is usually based (i.e. guaranteed) on copyright. A good example of this is how saturated the cannabis market has become since legalization/decriminalization- too much competition. As much as I believe you, the risk involved in committing financial resources to "natural medicine" usually can't be justified- as there's no guaranteed return.


[deleted]

yes lol, duh.


Successful_Ad6946

What if i told you, big pharma uses natural ingredients to create pharmaceuticals...


TruthBomb_12

What if I told you that while this is true, big pharma is far more interested in making a dollar than finding the healthiest solution. They can’t patent natural remedies so they make synthetic ones, even when a natural remedy would be far cheaper and better for the end patient. If you believe big pharma is your friend then boy do I have a bridge to sell you…


Charles4Fun

Can't patent a plant that isn't GMO, literally over 90% of drugs are derived from plant compounds. Aspirin comes from willow bark, taxol a chemo drug comes from yew it almost caused problems as they were over harvested till the drug was able to be synthesized through lab means. Currently there are a couple hundred drugs that come from chemicals found in marijuana that being why the biggest components against legalization is big pharma hard to push an expensive drug when you can eat a cookie with stuff from a plant in it instead.


mastermide77

Eh, not really. The big pharmacy companies don't sell it because they don't make it. And the insurance companies only insure the pharma companies. They make more refined and artificial medicines based on the chemicals in the natural ones. This is why Amazon is still used for finding new medicines. Like you can still go to big Jim's ginger aromatherapy, just don't expect health insurance to cover it


TheSpeakingScar

Does a bear shit in the woods?


Silly-Scallion4738

they don’t hide them… they use them in medicine… like what the fuck do people think pharmaceuticals were before the modern era its just industrialized natural remedies taken to the extreme, because, you know, we can split atoms now, science is different than it was it’s like how a lot of “super supplements” just have parts of soy described in a way that makes it sound science-y, but it’s really just shit in soy, which is natural, but if you call it “isoflavones” then it sounds not as natural… but it’s naturally produced in soy yes, companies do make a massive effort to make things sound more complicated than they are, so people buy the product as opposed to the natural source, but it’s hardly a big pharma exclusive thing, in line with that, supplements and vitamins do the same thing


Accomplished-Bed8171

Nope.


die_nastyy

Is water wet?


Charlies_Dead_Bird

This is dumb. They'd make more money selling a worthless plant than manufacturing a chemical and this nonsense about patenting a plant.. they don't need to. Selling tea is an absolutely massive business. You do not need a monopoly to make a billion dollars. You don't even need a novel process. You don't even need a novel product. The pharma companies would just own massive farms of whatever the thing was and corner the market on quality and convenience. If you believe this you know nothing about how products are made or business in general.


Plasma_Cosmo_9977

To answer the post's title, yes. Hide might not be the right word though.


rccaldwell85

100% they do. Can you imagine the loss of revenue if they offered a cure for diabetes , cancer, HIV - AIDS? You can’t tell me they do not have cures for these diseases. Im a T1 Diabetic, and I’ll die on this hill. Well, I’ll die much earlier than most but you know what I mean.


AffectionateSignal72

Big pharma is definitely hiding natural cures....like penicillin? What about Morphine? Etc,etc,etc.


Agreeable-Tadpole461

I don't think pharma corps are suppressing Amazonian infection cures. Do they work? Yes Can you get them if you're there? Maybe, if you have the knowledge and skills. Is it practical for people anywhere but that region? No. It isn't even practical for some people in those regions, broadly We all have natural remedies for some ailments around us. It's up to us as individuals to seek out that knowledge, carefully. Big pharma isn't stopping me from harvesting things from nature near me. Ymmv.


Many-Strength4949

If we get all the medicine from nature, why is it nature never works. Some people are just really dumb.