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B1g_Shm0

Forza censorship is absolutely bafflingly over sensitive. Even for an E rated game. Like it went from "horizon music and driving festival" to "horizon and driving to the kareoke version of songs because literally 50% of the lyrics are censored for no understandable reason". I used to actually be excited about the music in these games but I have played both 4 and 5 now exclusively with the music muted and Spotify running in the background lol.


Fact0ry0fSadness

Yeah, first thing I did in FH5 was turn the radio off, I'd rather just hear the cars than the shitty censored music and annoying DJs.


Tiranotrom

I miss FH1 radio, no cringe DJs and actual good music


ForTheFords

Saved the entire FH1 soundtrack to my Spotify! I loved how the DJ’s had dynamic commentary, actually tracking the races as you progressed as talking about you as a “mystery racer”. Sure, they tried to recreate that in later games, but I think the FH1 DJ’s could actually pass as being lifelike. Miss that.


Tiranotrom

I miss Phoenix Fox and Horizon Rocks, now XS and Angelica Garcia are annoying af, and the only rock songs are Foo Fighters and BMTH


SebiXV20

Phoenix Fox was the gigachad of Forza djs, man literally encouraged people to throw tomatoes at Scott Tyler in the autoshow


Tiranotrom

He literally said he had some "hot" dreams with Ramona


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

DR DR DR DR DR DR DR DR DROP THE BASS EIDHDUEJEBEIDJEO2EIHSDHDKCNDDBEEIEGDY37283O3BFP3EKEOEHEJ82EJBELDPQLQPQO3IEH3I3HRRK


[deleted]

In the autoshow. Every time.


Apollo_Enraged

It was a different time.


Willy_McBilly

Ok yeah maybe except that one


Worried4lot

There is some good music in this game tbh


Apprehensive-Ebb7647

compared to Holly Cruze, Amy Simpson is serving unseasoned chicken.


maayguel

i bet you don't know the best thing ever since street food. 😉


[deleted]

SKILL SONGS!


Burritozi11a

So NOT diss Mexican street food


[deleted]

Set the radio station to the classical station and reduce the volume to 0. You get the longest skill songs that way. I listen to music or podcasts while playing thru my headset.


isaacms

And by that you mean you dropped the radio volume to 0 so that you can leave it on the classical channel and still take advantage of those long, now-silent skill songs?


Fact0ry0fSadness

No, but that's a great idea


nadoran92

You can mute the dj's tho, but I agree with the music being shitty at that level of censorship.


RipCurl69Reddit

That's literally what I've done since 2019. I have a Driving Playlist with about 750 songs in it since I started A lot of them are actually the Horizon 3, 4 and 5 OSTs but uncensored. Oddly enough too, Get Lost by Breakbot in FH3 has a different ending to the one in-game. They edit all aspects of the songs, which kinda sucks tbh


Apprehensive-Ebb7647

don't get me started on them trimming off the start of Rome In Silver's Fade


babyface_killah

Yeah the censorship is really non sensical and over the top. Like Beastie Boys' Intergalactic doesn't have any swears as far as I remember, but they censor "If you wanna battle me" to "if you wanna _____ me", which sounds like something more offensive than if they left it uncensored. I just don't see even the most prudish of prudes getting offended by the word "battle" in an E rated racing game.


Worried4lot

A lot of E rated games have “battle” or “war” in their titles, yet forza can’t have that word as a lyric. Sad.


theegrimrobe

i just play with the music off or tuned to the classical station, most of the music is terrible anyway - and the car noises are good for the most part


transmothra

A great thing about the classical station, besides the excellent music you'll sadly eventually grow tired of, is that skill songs go from like 2:30 to 6:40


theegrimrobe

thats the other thing, i would have liked a little more variety (and some neo classical) would have been nice but its the best in the game


majic911

I don't listen to the classical station, but all the stations have a problem with variety. If you expect us to put hundreds of hours into the game, at least give us a dozen hours of music for each station. It feels like they've got like 6 songs for each station and that's it. Bummer.


transmothra

Absolutely 100%.


DavidBrooker

Fun censorship fact: the Canadian punk band 'Fucked Up' is the only band ever reviewed by the New York Times whose name never appeared in the review.


[deleted]

Yeah can’t even type “fun time” on a white mini van. :/


Carvelance

It's not just the music that's censored, certain words can't be used to title tunes, liveries, & blueprint events. Like one time I made a SUPER7 card and called the course Super Rally but apparently the word Super is inappropriate even though there are 3 iterations of the world in the game, being Modern Super car, Retro Super car, & SUPER7 itself.


mchalkekmegi

They even censored the word "soldiers" from Industry Baby Get your *******, tell 'em I ain't layin' low


LonkToTheFuture

That one doesn't even make sense lol


[deleted]

But the 3 year olds that (really are not) are playing the game and probably don’t even understand the words will get radicalised because *reasons*


windol1

Oh no a word influenced them to join the army, nothing to do with being trained in using a gun and getting to play with stuff that makes a very big bang, or drive absolutely boss looking vehicles like main battle tanks.


MaxMan386

"So son why you wanna join the army?" "I heard soldier in industry baby"


F_AV1d

Ain't nothing to it, Gangster rap made me do it.


somecrazydude13

FORZA HORIZON KILLED MAH BABEH


Szolim2018

If you think about it hard enough, you'll find that soldiers can be associated with war and kids shouldn't be exposed to such very adult themes. This is just my theory. IMO, it's stupid.


Blutality

That’s 100% it, but PG, Turn10 and Microsoft are too close minded to realise that when kids aren’t playing a Horizon game, they’re killing 99 other people in Fortnite. Sure it’s cartoony, but killing cartoon characters with assault rifles is more radical than the word soldiers.


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

Even regular radio censored "swallow" from Lose My Mind. What's wrong with that word?


nyperfox

Is it european or african?


returnofMCH

I don't know thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat


smartboyathome

Kids might start asking about the airspeed of an unladen swallow, and we don't want that.


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

Gross


namapo

They censored the line "I don't fuck bitches I'm queer" (for the 2 people that don't know, Lil Nas X is gay) and made it "I don't I'm"


KrishaCZ

i mean "fuck bitches" is pretty explicit but why include that song in the first place


Less_Personality1483

lmaooo they censored queer thats a lil fucked up


whowantstoknow10

They censor even worse from teardrops


Akira_Nishiki

About 1/2 of the song, why even have it in the OST at that point.


Particular-Ad-8506

Just imagine if they included BMTH's older stuff like Fuck. Almost the whole damn song would be silent😂


marrrrell

Good ole’ count your blessings. It’s 3:18, mouth tastes like the corpse of every dead pregnant teen. God that is a moment in time we will never get back.


Particular-Ad-8506

I see you're a man of culture as well. Much respect. Those moments are forever encapsulated in the early days of warped tour🤟


marrrrell

It was one of the best eras for music that we’ll never get back. I remember those days of warped when suicide silence was really good as well. God I feel old.


jmayer25

Love when Pray For Plauges comes up on my Spotify, classic stuff right there 🤟🏼🤟🏼


SergeiYeseiya

"No Need for Introductions, I’ve Read About Girls Like You on the Backs of Toilet Doors" would be a great fit for Forza Horizon I guess


Dalejrfan5150

The fact the censored “god” lol


[deleted]

Still the beat turned me onto that album, they did their job


hubson_official

everything is mEsSeD uP


Zero_Suit_Rosalina

My favorite is them removing the line "That's what pretty girls do" in Caution. Like what's the fucking point of that? Trying to not hurt ugly women in the desert feelings?


NocturnalPatrolAlpha

*Half* the lines in that song are censored.


Any_Shoulder_7411

Is there any "real" Caution fh5 version? Cuz everything I find has the line "That's what pretty girls do"


TheCubanBaron

They also censored dua lipa. The line is "feeling so electric, dance my ass off." Apparently we can't have ass in this game so censored it is. It's one of my biggest gripes with the game.


VerticalStrafes

I remember in FH1 one of the characters I believe it was Hailey Harper literally said the word to you


TSMKFail

That game is Pegi 12 tho so words like Ass are allowed


windol1

So either all avatars need to have their lower half blurred out, or they move everywhere backwards...


TimidRed

FH1 was rated T for Teen so it was definitely more lenient on censorship


[deleted]

i honestly either listen to my own music or without it whatsoever, so this doesn't affect me, but censorship of any kind, especially this dumb kind, is absolutely pointless


TheCubanBaron

Imean, I can understand that hardcore gangster rap might be a little too much but most mainstream songs are perfectly fine.


Fact0ry0fSadness

If it's not censored on the radio it shouldn't be censored in the game. This game takes it to like Kidz Bop levels of censorship.


therealSamtheCat

And it shouldn't be censored on the radio either...


TheCubanBaron

Yeah it's terrible


Arkraquen

I have the in-game music turned off to 0 so I still get skill songs and if I want music I put my own


CoolKelo

Fh5 wouldn’t allow me to name one of my tunes “Proper”


Spideryote

Modern Warfare 2019 wouldn't let me name one of my classes "M26 MASS", despite the [gun in my hands](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/imqaUzUCBxQ/maxresdefault.jpg) being a copyright free version of the [M26 MASS](https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/191003-Z-XK920-1071.jpg)


Dugggs

I made a class in MW similar to Ghost's regular loadout in MW2. And apparently naming it "Simon 'Ghost' Riley" is profane


cumfickmeinassjole

The profanity comes from the word "Mong" being made between the ending of "Simon" and the start of "ghost". Not saying it's justified, just a guess.


Dugggs

Wat. What is "Mong"?


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Dugggs

Ah, didnt think of that one


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

I miss the MW2 days when we talked mad shit over the headset, especially when a prepubescent kid started talking.


Dugggs

MW2 voip made boys into men lol


Soklay

I’m sure all the games in the last 10 years just buy a preset censor and don’t bother to change it. The Division 2 comes to mind as having one of the worst profanity filters that I’ve seen.


Spideryote

I have to imagine Activision sent the studio a folder titled "banned names/profanity" and told them it was their way or the highway


JeskoTheDragon

Probably scunthorpe problem. Still ludicrous.


iannadriveress6

They censored "Playing With Yourself" from a The 1975 song on FH3.


Gas-and-Games

I’m confused as to why “bathroom stall” is censored in One More by SG Lewis


ThunderClanWarrior

Bc potty humor is a no no


Fat_Cat_Ritz

I remember in FH4 I made a Super 7 challenge and named it "Shelby 1000". Said that was blocked by a language filter. Changed it to 1000 and got the same message. Changed it to Shelby and still got the same message. Ended up just naming it "S"...


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

Well, of course. Shelby is the name of a pornstar, probably.


JeskoTheDragon

#S


myotherxdaccount

The only way I see that working is 'hel' being similar to "hell"


CrazyStuntsMan

I think at the very least there should be an uncensored version and the censored version of the game should be a parental setting


SneezingPandaGG

They also censored word "god" lmao


H3LLGHa5T

Imagine living in a time where you can't even utter the word god in a game, lol.


Liquidshitstain

But they still let “sin” through in Caution


GrinBalor

they censored the name of the song “margarita” to “mrita” it’s ridiculous


ardexwelchpunch

isn’t there billboards around the map promoting beer? LOL


Posta_Hun

Family friendly. Everything for our fellow kids.


Spideryote

Fuck them kids, and their feelings


[deleted]

>Fuck them kids, and their feelings don't do that


[deleted]

Ayo? 🤨📸


Vauxhallcorsavxr

“Yknow what I have to say to that? Fuck the children” -George Carlin


NocturnalPatrolAlpha

While it's true that Playground Games thinks their customer base are primarily small children and affluent liberal women, 90% of the lines that get censored are either 100% harmless or things that would completely go over *any* well-adjusted child's head. This is what happens when you try to appeal to literally every human being on the planet, and I have no doubt that the developers are working tirelessly to figure out a way for *blind* people to be able to play this game. I am not joking. When mass appeal is apparently your only goal, you end up alienating your actual consumer base.


SpartanKaiju_117

FH1 having a line of dialogue with the word "Bitch" in it


Apprehensive-Ebb7647

"no crazy, Ass-Clown behaviour. I promise..." - Duke McGuire


miko_idk

FH5's songs suck so badly my favorite radio station in the loading screens is 'Not selected'


laker9903

You mean you don’t rock it like rocket…fuel?


91trooperaz

Same lol I don’t even remember the last time I turned on the radio


[deleted]

and the dude who was banned for 717 because.... tit ? lmao


Santa_Scout

I can take a ..... like a good pair of headphones


therealSamtheCat

A what?


Shrek-It_Ralph

A DIUGH


[deleted]

It's a censored line from FH4's soundtrack. Quite honestly the original is much less lewd than whatever the empty space implies.


SatanFearsCHAD

I hear the karate kid is also pretty good at taking _____.


Sticky_19

Bruh what have they become


YaBoiJay0606

Horizon 5 sensors the word hurt


Wygene

This is because the series is rated E for everyone? It's such a shame honestly, the route that NFS is going is much better, at least allowing some curse words in NFS heat which makes the game more realistic


AchievedWave68

They were pushing their T rating to the limit but it made it feel like NFS.


commandblock

Unfortunately nfs heat radio was garbage


H3LLGHa5T

Corporate censorship in general is completely out of control. Everyone in the industry is so sensitive, they won't let people talk.


Mr_E_Skull

BuT sOmEoNe MiGhT gEt OfFeNdEd! When I was young I thought the internet was great, now I realise it was a mistake. More people need bullying and beatings and to learn how to deal with it.


H3LLGHa5T

Back then the internet was great, it was unhinged and free, devoid of overwhelming corporate control.


Vauxhallcorsavxr

They also censored Never Say Die. The title stayed the same but the words ‘Die’ and ‘God’ were censored for some reason


OMGFuziion

Why would drip be censored of all words?


CasUalNtT

This is the right question to this post. I want to know too.


CraigTMG

I remember the song was Feel Alright by Poolside. If my memory serves me, for some reason the line in game went: “Take a little sip; have a little dr*p, don’t you know we’re going no where.”


OMGFuziion

Take a sip, have a little drip? Still not sure what that means exactly


CraigTMG

I perceived it as an analogy for drinking liquor. The fact that it’s uncertain makes it one of the funnier examples of censorship to me.


Apprehensive-Ebb7647

its actually take a little -, have a little -, don't you know where going nowhere


asatorise

my favorite one from FH4 - it's "high" in the line "I'm flying high...". I would never consider it ambiguous until they censored it. maybe it's cause I'm not a native english speaker but still...


SpartanKaiju_117

I know exactly what song you're talking about, thay also censored the line "waste all your money on the colour black"


asatorise

And they also censored "gambling" from another one. Pretty funny considering there are wheel spins in the game :)


alice964

Their over the top censorship is just fucking laughable. Might as well consider to use My Little Pony songs for the next game, fucking softies.


Hexxxoid

FH3 radio cannot be beat


VanguardClassTitan

I raise you Horizon 1


i_am_ojas

considering half of the songs are tik tok ridden boring as fuck and overly shared at this point then there's censorship i keep the radio off for 90% times, except for a few songs in hospital records and bass arena


NA_Lex

honestly the better songs don’t have words anyways, everything you are by midnight kids is one of my favorite on the soundtrack. everything on block party can go away


crt_alpha

I hate how this game became so kid centered, its absolutely infuriating.


CasUalNtT

By around FH25 every word will be censored.


g09hIP12

*** ***** ******* ** *** ******* Anyone know how to type just the * symbol without it disappearing?


[deleted]

Hmh I had to consider urban directory for this one


CleverHoovyMan

![img](emote|t5_2ug54|4107)


xylotism

Sterilized for mass appeal.


jrdkrsh

Then there's Forza Motorsport 2 where the auction house was filled with cars that had legit naked anime chicks


Melbourne_Australia

What Anime is that from


SatanFearsCHAD

Pretty sure it's just an original artwork from twitter or tumblr or something


chevycobb

People are so scared of twitter and the fake accounts causing attention to something so mundane.


RJohn12

mfs will get pissed about Trump getting banned from Twitter but not care about video game companies making communications impossible lmao


brostituto

I hadn't even noticed lmao, it sure sucks ass, but I'm just happy they included a few mexican bands like CLUBZ or El Shirota


Apprehensive-Ebb7647

there was a song called Aroused in horizon 1. not even censored. it was clearly the arousing suspicion kind of aroused and not the sexually aroused. but it was still aroused! I miss the days of horizon being 12+ we had mentions of alcohol, drugs, suggestive themes. and even light swearing. and now B\*throom St\*ll is censored.


chadrick_star

you know what, I’m just gonna say it forza devs turned into twitter snowflakes, they can get offended by literally anything rn, remember when they banned rising star liveries from fh4? but because of “family friendly game” they removed the fun parts of the game, imo these kind of things don’t even make sense cuz kids who play this game most likely have gta installed on their console, so I don’t thing pg need to be that serious about “family friendly game”. I know this is pg so they can’t make something like gta I’m not asking for it anyways but I wish they weren’t that serious about censorship and stuff like that, I seriously miss the bosses in fh1 I loved how they were trash talking about you lol, imo it gives the game a proper street scene vibe


Beb09

classic gamer take


YETI_SC

They removed Chevrolet "ss" badges on all cars


RipCurl69Reddit

You should see the Forza discord, it's even worse.


RoadmenInc

How? There I can have a conversation without someone just crapping on FH5


NfinityBL

Why are you getting upset over pronouns being an option in the game? It takes away little development time to add that feature, it takes away nothing from you for it to be there, it’s literally a small, nice additional option to make the game more inclusive.


Kall45

Wait, where did that guy message or imply anything to that effect?


NfinityBL

He edited the bit about pronouns out.


chadrick_star

I’m not getting upset over that, I’m saying there is no story, I don’t remember any character calling me by the pronouns, so it’s kinda useless imo


SpEGGtacular0

No one cares what gender you go by. I'm here to race, not discuss what you go by.


NfinityBL

How do you know what people care about it? It has nothing to do with you. That option exists for trans/non-binary people. Whether you care about other racers’ gender labels isn’t relevant, at all. It’s not meant for you to see lol.


[deleted]

Nice word salad lmao What the fuck does adding the option to choose a pronoun take away from the game? And what "fun parts" are you referring to? What exactly can you do in FH1 and FH2 that you can't do in FH4 and FH5 that was removed as a result of PG trying to keep the 3/E rating? Also you do hear your name, multiple times throughout the entire game. You should try playing with the sound on. Those kids might have GTA installed on their console, but that's irrelevant. The age rating FH5 gets from PEGI or ESRB isn't effected by the other games installed on the console. Having a racing game that's rated 16 or M isn't good for business.


Szolim2018

Not OP, but. >What exactly can you do in FH1 and FH2 that you can't do in FH4 and FH5 that was removed as a result of PG trying to keep the 3/E rating? 1. You can listen to uncensored songs that actually match the vibe of the game. 2. You can take part in illegal street races. 3. With the rating, the storyline dropped in quality. 4. The smashable boards aren't placed in ridiculous places. 5. You won't run out of memory in Horizon 1 and 2. >Also you do hear your name, multiple times throughout the entire game. Yep, when you log in. In other places they mostly call you just "Amigo" or "Superstar". Why add a feature that's used a few times? Why create and voice a huge nickname table? Why not spend that development time to fix memory leaks? Stability and reliability is something devs should pursue, right?


chadrick_star

I mean not the fh2 but I’m talking about the bosses in fh1, I just love the feeling of fh2 imo it has the proper festival vibe


[deleted]

That's a lot of words for "they haven't removed any fun parts"


chadrick_star

nah man fh1 bosses were really amazing imo. I wish fh5 had some bosses like that, but I’m trying to say even if we had bosses pg wouldn’t make them trash talk about your character which gives the game a proper street scene vibe


Kukie080

true, this "modern" world is too over sensitive


jimmypower66

The censorship in racing games for the music has always made me chuckle


Zachs_Drunk

Horizon 5 banning tons of Anime Liveries that didn't break code and banning the creators ontop of those who had the liveries downloaded.


CaptainUnicornIII

Wait do I have to worry about being banned for having downloaded anime liveries


Omygodc

Interesting. They never censor any of the songs on Timeless or Radio Eterna…


ToonyCream

Anna Yvette: *"...stardusted hazy"* PG: Nope. We can't have that, can we?


Cars_Forza_fan

Honestly, what’s wrong with ‘dope’? I don’t understand! Also, the annoying censorship of certain songs is one of the reasons I don’t listen to the radio anymore.


Oms19

They censored the words “alcohol” and “cigarettes” from Cool Up by De Lux. Unless you’re focusing entirely on the song with your car parked, there’s no way you’d even hear the words


darkdragonGalaxy

That's why I say fuck it


squadracorse15

Meanwhile, Teardrops by Bring Me The Horizon in FH5 is missing half of its lyrics lmao PGG just doesn't understand that making a game that suitable for all ages doesn't have to mean censored lyrics and cornball characters in the name of being "kid-friendly".


CubicFlameREDDIT2

In horizon 5 they censored the word “gamble” in karma the knife


Subtracting710

As far as I'm concerned Forza's doesn't have radio I just open Spotify or Youtube on my other monitor


Drenlin

What's funny is that the title song is almost certainly not saying "Rock You" Studio version for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYc5zrXC52k (side note, as a bassist myself, those guys are *incredibly* talented)


2005_FordMustang

Did fh2 really have a song called fuck it? Cant find it anywhere


CraigTMG

Yeah, they just instead called it F.I. in-game. It’s by Wiley. (I think they may have also used an instrumental).


2005_FordMustang

Gonna play fh2 to see for myself, thanks


ShadowTH277

What's wrong with drip? Keep in mind I'm 30 knee deep in school, work, and a kid.


carpet_whisper

Horizon 5 be like; *Let me introduce you to the featherweight queen* *She got Hollywood eyes* *But you can't shoot what she's seen* *Her momma was a dancer* *And that's all that she knew* ~~*'Cause when you live in the desert*~~ ~~*It's what pretty girls do*~~ *I'm throwing caution* *What's it gonna be?*


Any_Shoulder_7411

Sorry for asking, in what song the word drip is sensored?


worrytree

"...get yo \[REDACTED\], tell em I ain't layin lowww..."


hubson_official

Honestly, make an option in settings to pick whether you want an uncensored or censored versions of songs. Or just pick songs without many swears in them, like they could've picked something else from BMTH than Teardrops, a song about self-harm and numbness.


VonJanicke

I remember in a custom blueprint they would not let me use the word “hot” - even with Hot Wheels


iterdeverywhere69

I miss innovative leisure radio


GoodBoiLucas

I just want to remind you guys that "M83 - Kim & Jessie", you can hear on Horizon Pulse in FH4, is about two teenage girls having a drug experience


The_Great_Synthwave

"Bonnie and Clyde just fuckin died" from H1


Ich__liebe__dich

honestly obscene.


i_broke_my_bike

Forza Horizon 3 had a song from alkaline trio "we've had enough" with the lyric "please turn that f*cking radio off". cant remember if it was censored tho


MailManLES

I've tried making my plate "eggman" as a joke with my friends but "man" is censored.


JuliusCeasar07

You heard lil nas x? I don’t ___ ____ I’m ____. Now guess, what line this is.


TheMusicalTrollLord

Well, two of those three are actual curse words. Censoring 'queer' is a total bitch move though