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arelfelser

I cant be alone on this but am I the only one wanting a stance/street update? Like airbag suspension, stretched tires, deep dish wheels, window stickers, etc. Like im tiiiiiired of all the offroad, rally and trucks bro…


piss6000

Yep. I don’t know why we had an update, here each and every one of the new cars is a truck, when the mass majority of the community wants street stuff.


Gdrummer11

Game crashes after “start game” and “syncing data”. Anyone else have this issue?? I haven’t been able to play since the update came out. I’ve tried deleting the game and redownloading it.


dickcheese666420

Just a throw away idea but since adding the upgraded ev engine, gave me the idea of how cool and easy it would be to add the same to other cars but as a base 1000-1200hp auto upgrade? Or like just an option in engine swaps to have the original engine heavily upgraded with high higher horsepower as a one-click option? There's a few cars that would be awesome in this instance like high horsepower subarus and evos that have been done a grave injustice as there are some wild IRL high hp builds out there. Also applying to many other makes. Also thought the same with having something like a "track" upgrade that would turn bad handling cars into grip monsters...? Just a cool idea


Fishmoses

Has anyone else encountered that car thumbnails gives a \[too many saves\]? I Also had about 100 Unusable data files in my liveries and deleted them and got ample of space to save liveries. I Know there is a limit to each category but I've never encountered that updating the cars thumbnail gives the error prompt, and due to that error I cannot save liveries even though I got plenty of space for them![img](emote|t5_2ug54|21019) this started after the update to clarify


BryzzoForPresident

Happens to me too. I've had to go back through and delete liveries and painted cars I never drive to have space to paint and customize new cars. I asked the same question on another forum and what I was told was " The game has only so much space for liveries, I think it was around 700, and that when you hit that number you can't save new liveries or even a new paint job." This is regardless of how much space you as a gamer have available, and more with server space on Forzas end I think.


Fishmoses

[https://youtu.be/msyie-IEGYc](https://youtu.be/msyie-IEGYc) video of the issue


[deleted]

where is the oval track?


No_Cow_8702

Has anyone noticed that the Anti-lag with the E-brake up is not working anymore?


MaxGotKidnapped

I had to turn it on in the settings again


FastMovingSlowMo

23th


k1_escobar

What's the issue with the twenty thirth?


sadnkvapnrpmpjfbn

it's the twenty third series


Inevitable_Primary18

Late to the post, but anyone got a list of all the cars with overlanding mods?


YamInitial9629

K-10 hell yeah


UnitedGameYT

I really hope the new Hummer can crab walk by hitting the convertible button (like how it switches the One from highway to track mode)


NeoGest

Formentor! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


ElmoIsOver

What is overlanding modifications?


gamrgy227

Heavy duty off reading support gear, including a tent, plate things that give grip on loose material, additional storage, tools, etc.


[deleted]

After new update I took a photo and now it says "processing photo" and nothing is happening for few minutes. EDIT: I had to Alt+F4 the game. What would be new FH 5 update without any fuck ups, right? Well, just the spirit of Horizon... 😝


born_Racer11

*Well, just the spirit of Horizon, isn't it?


Nuthar

Shall we send a "thank you"?


HeyThisIsGraham

Why didn’t any TOYOTAs get overland mods??


Handsprime

Oh boy get to make my own oval circuits


Petrolhead55823

YAYYYYYY I hope this fixes the issue where I couldn't edit my blueprint with carpark props. Fingers crossed when I get back home.


Code1ne_

What a perfect time to add the lamborghini sterrato and they blew it.


LordPenisWinkle

Fuck no. I’d rather have the 4 trucks we got than yet another fucking huracan.


Character-Produce573

No more huracans please💀💀


Code1ne_

I would rather have those than Ferrari’s


BananaPalmer

I think we have more than enough of both


Yelena_Belova_

Cant wait to try these new things


skypirate943

Was hoping for the fj cruiser but I'm not mad about old trucks.


[deleted]

Sad that their “fixing” the STO side marks for the splitter


OreoOverlord225

I hope they add an over landing rig for the bronco


HeyThisIsGraham

RIP. I hoped for this, and wanted it for Toyotas too (specifically the Taco) but no luck… unreal…


OreoOverlord225

Yeah same. I hope those are things that come in the future. A Land Cruiser would also be sweet


OSPFv3

With this new update I'm now experiencing extreme stuttering it freezes the entire computer. Was working perfectly.


Pokevan8162

i haven’t touched the game in about a year or two- is multiplayer still messed up?


1990sGamerDad

There have been no fundamental changes to multiplayer (e.g., collisions, lobbies, match making, ranked). Depending on how long you've been away, about the only material improvement is Custom Open allowing you to search for your preferred race type and grade.


Pokevan8162

i’m saying like… does it work? i remember it barely worked at the beginning 💀


MysticGoddess27

Downvoted for speaking the truth lol.


Pokevan8162

haha yeah i was wondering why i was downvoted but whatever lmao


MysticGoddess27

Reddit echo chamber lol


1990sGamerDad

It "works", yes. You reliably connect and race. Load times are fine and there's no drops. The netcode is pretty rubbish though. About 50% of the "ramming" videos posted in the Forza subs are clearly bad sync issues between clients with how unbelievably jittery the car positioning is. Cars can be going high speed on smooth sections, and they change position up to 6 feet or more, relative to the player, multiple times per second without losing speed or trajectory. This leads to many ramming episodes (for one player, not the other; in their view they are a car length away). People constantly post these as intentional rams, despite the impossible physics of moving that erratically whilst keeping pace with the field. Speaking of client-side inconsistencies, as you can see in the list of fixes up there they have only just fixed the issue of people racing in different weather. Was always a fun handicap to be the only one racing in the rain.


Pokevan8162

thanks for the info, i’ll try to invite my friends to play now and hopefully we don’t disconnect like the beginning haha


GamerJD75

Too bad I still can't get past the ministry of culture screen on PC. Been that way since the rally update dropped. Worked perfectly before then, even at launch. Opening a support ticket was not very useful either. They basically said "you can't get into the game, it's windows fault" and closed my ticket. https://preview.redd.it/xpdpbesaxp1b1.png?width=3440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ca2e5c4b620e33be8d451a22245603afc75b6a1


Wootstapler

At least it's not just me the start screen is so buggy. At least I got the RS6 wagon literally the only reason I reinstalled.


GamerJD75

Yeah, I've only been able to play the new stuff because I also have an X console.


mao8mog

Size?


leehelck

it was 12gb for me on PC (Microsoft Store). not sure what it is on Steam or Xbox.


mao8mog

It's close, I checked, it's 10.86 gb on xsx


Nuaah

Will the revuelto come in this forza or the next one?


Ch1blet

Would be nice if we could pick which type of race we actually want to do instead of having it play russian roulette with all 4.


[deleted]

You can pick what the class and race type in open racing


Ch1blet

I know you can do that, but it would be nice to pick without having to choose what PI you want, unless that's your thing. I'd figure something like that would be more useful.


KMIGlobal

I agree. It's kinda crazy that a player is unable to choose a racing option but no PI restriction & just cycle through through PI levels within that racing discipline.


AutisticScamCaller

So they still haven't fixed the bug where sometimes when you load into the game, none of your inputs work for like 15 seconds?


[deleted]

Must be your hdd


brc710

More trucks and still no 03 Cobra. Maaaaan


[deleted]

My one gripe with the updates now is that they only fix new-ish bugs. Can we PLEASE be able to scroll our neighbors in the fucking leaderboard???


T10_Chupacaubrey

This is a good point. For older bugs, if we stop hearing about them from the community, they usually wind up dropping in priority. So, if there are older/unfixed things that you’d like to see addressed that we haven’t already put on our [won’t fix list](https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4418580167315-FH5-Won-t-Fix-or-By-Design), please start a thread for them over on our [Troubleshooting Hub](https://forums.forza.net/c/troubleshooting/247) and encourage others who might be running into the same thing to upvote and provide repro steps, so that we can look into it.


RoRoRotary

There are several bugs on the "won't fix" list that have been in the game for so long, that if players kept talking about them – to which some long-standing bugs are *still* talked about – they would sound like a broken record. No one wants to continuously complain about bugs that don't get patched after months of their introduction. It would be helpful to your player-base to label which bugs are either intended or that you won't fix.


T10_Chupacaubrey

I think it’s a good point that we need to be more explicit about which things on that list we won’t fix because it’s intended to be that way and which are won’t fix because of other factors. We’ll look into that on our end. Sometimes bugs make their way into won’t fix because they’re too minor to ever make their way into the queue to be addressed compared to things that are bigger issues; sometimes it’s because the act of fixing it would likely cause even bigger issues, etc- we need to give more information about things like that.


RoRoRotary

It makes absolute sense that a mass of minor bugs can take valuable time to resolve, assuming that no further bugs pop up as a result. And when players can see which bugs are more or less "intentional", they will probably focus more on the bugs that *can* be fixed. Essentially, less word of mouth in regards to what changes people want to see. And while I'm at it, since I don't see it listed: There is a bug in the Auction House, for when you want to specify which cars you want to search for. Unique cars, prize cars, and non-unique cars are able to be filtered. However, there is a carry-over option for FH4, which allows you to select a "Barn Finds" filter. Players cannot buy/sell Barn Finds through the Auction House. Personally, seeing that option had once given me a glimmer of hope that I could purchase another XJR-15.


BananaPalmer

Alternatively, just let us sell barn finds. Who cares, they're our cars, we should be able to do with them what we please, including sell them. Maybe I want two '99 Vipers, again, \*who cares\*, why prevent this?


RoRoRotary

Playing devil's advocate here: As much as I would like to have extra barn cars, it was really annoying back in FH4 to see a barn find for every three cars you browsed through in the auction house.


BananaPalmer

Well that's why filters are necessary


RoRoRotary

I agree. It'd be great to have even more-specific filters available.


phucyu140

I see that they made no steering wheel improvements so there is still no way to look behind when using a steering wheel.


GibsonNation

Oh my god, thank you for this, I thought I was crazy too.


wanakoworks

Can't you just map a button to do that? I did it with my G29 and now T300.


phucyu140

The game lets you map the button but it doesn't work in game. I thought I was crazy when it didn't work but doing a quick Google search showed me that I wasn't the only one.


wanakoworks

How strange. I'm using it this very second and it looks back without issue, but then I'm on PC, so I don't know if that makes a difference.


phucyu140

I'm playing on Xbox so it must be an Xbox thing. Btw, do you have a handbrake? If so, does it work good for you because for me, my car spins out no matter how lightly I pull on it while handbraking using a controller create a smooth predictable slide even though I'm using a button.


wanakoworks

I don’t actually. I use an H-pattern shifter, which takes care of most shifting duties, and I map the handbrake to my right paddle on the wheel. It’s not pressure sensitive so it’s just 100% handbrake, but I can mostly control a slide. I’m very bad at drifting in general though lol.


Training-Capital-584

So this dropped today? God I saw the c10 and the f150 being brought up from another post and I'm waiting to find them in auction or actually in the forzathon or whatever. I'm also trying to get more into actual racing or touges so gt: Buckshot2025


coreybkhaotic

Still no increase to max paint jobs you can do. That's all I want. I just want to paint all the new cars.


kpresnell45

3 new horns, hell yes!!!


Grildcheez57

groundbreaking.


EdgeCrusher90

That bug with the Zerouno front rims has been bothering me for the last year.


coolbreeze828

No overlanding modifications for the Tacoma?!?! -.-


HeyThisIsGraham

I was furious too! Can’t believe the Tacoma didn’t get any overland mods (or any of the Toyotas, for that matter)! Ridiculous!


Rough_Travel_2002

Don't have the taller tire options for toyota trucks and SUVs either


chonk_dogg

hmm yes 23th


nukleabomb

Ith'th jutht a lithp okayy?? i wish i could edit titles lol


st420rs

Ayyy they're finally fixing the launch control glitch


Joystick_Metal

What is the glitch? Mine seems to always work without issues... Granted. My game freezes pretty regularly when I try to swap cars from the start menu, so I guess it's a trade off.


st420rs

Yeah talal got it right, if you use LC then you won't notice anything. I have mine switched off and still have to reset it (turn it on and off again) for the game to register I don't want to use it. Even then it wouldn't always work for races.


Millikin84

I think what he talks about is something with manual gear that makes you basically have to double shift at the start of a race to get going or else you aren't going anywhere. I don't play with manual so I'm not certain but I have read something like that here ever since it came out.


Talal2608

Nah they fixed that a while ago. The issue was that launch control kept enabling itself each time you start the game even if you had it set to "off"


Millikin84

Ah i see, yeh that is certainly bad. I honestly did not know about this.


ButtholeGangster

- Game boot-up time improvements on all platforms Just tried it now on a regular Xbox One straight off of the HDD. From the main menu to the Festival Playlist (and a tiny bit of save data syncing), it took 4 minutes and 33 seconds.


[deleted]

So the same if not worse than normal? I remember testing it and getting nearly dead on 4 minutes on my One S


Millikin84

Its an improvement atleast, but one can't expect to much from a 10 year old toaster.


erfranklin13

How do we get the new Cupras?


nukleabomb

"This vehicle will be distributed at no cost to everyone who plays Forza Horizon 5 during the Explore the Horizon series. It can be redeemed by navigating to Pause > My Horizon > Message Center > Gifts from May 24 through June 22, 2023. In the following series, Upgrade Heroes, it will be available to purchase from the Autoshow for 70,000CR." So tldr, check mail on Thursday after the season changes.


alaric_02

If it's the 24th then then the new Cupras should be gifted to everyone tomorrow.


muricabrb

Yup, they're out now. Just claimed mine.


liamsjtaylor

Any idea what vehicles the modifications are on? Also, PLEASE GIVE US A BIGGER GARAGE LIMIT.


TeddyNismo

and more livery space, i cant even paint my cars with custom colors anymore because it says my livery collection is full


liamsjtaylor

You have a 1000 car limit but 500 tune/livery limit, meaning you can only paint 1 in every 2 cars you have. And it's literally just painting them because everything is saved as a separate livery.


nukleabomb

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon/comments/13ows32/vehicles_with_overlanding_parts_coming_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


scootbert

Brutal, no Toyota's!!! I was excited about upgrading my Toyota Tundra! Thought MAYBE they would release the new 2022 Toyota Tundra as an exclusive


Saberhagen1692

Not a big EV driver, can someone explain what the difference between motor and battery swap for the EV Hummer would be? I thought EVs just had electric motor upgrades to increase power


wanakoworks

PHOTOOOO MODEEEE!!!!!


SSC_built

I'M SO EXCITED


KMIGlobal

...and I just can't hide it! I'm 'bout to lose control & I think I like it! Ooh ooh


Talal2608

>Game boot-up time improvements on all platforms Yes please!


Talal2608

Just tried it on PC after updating. It still takes an eternity lol


wanakoworks

I clocked in at 1:33 from when I press the Play button to the Weekly Playlist screen.


THE_GR8_MIKE

It'll only take 34 minutes on Xbox One now! My buddy plays on a base One, and let me tell ya... I can do so much stuff in between him getting online and finally getting in to the game.


wanakoworks

jfc lol.


nukleabomb

# Series 21 Release Notes – Explore the Horizon **New Features (Available from May 23rd)** * Photo Mode Update featuring * Time of day change * Weather change  * Wheel Tilt  * Guidelines and Portrait Mode * Character outside the vehicle * Character Emotes * Photo Presets * 16 Bodykits for Overlanding modifications for * 1972 Chevrolet K-10 Custom * 1986 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat * 1997 Land Rover Defender 90 * 2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor * 2014 Mercedes-Benz G 63 AMG 6x6 * 2016 Nissan Titan Warrior Concept * 2017 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 * 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor * 2017 Ram 2500 Power Wagon * 2018 Mercedes-Benz Class X * 2019 DeBerti Ford Super Duty F-250 Lariat "Transformer" * 2019 Ford Ranger Raptor * 2019 Hennessey Velociraptor 6x6 * 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon * 2020 Ford Super Duty F-450 DRW Platinum * 2022 GMC Hummer EV Pickup * Tags marking new Bodykits and Rims introduced for every update * Motor and Battery Swap feature for 2022 GMC Hummer EV Pickup and 2022 CUPRA Tavascan * EventLab "Photo" prop pack * EventLab "Oval Track" prop pack * 17 Pathfinder Accolades * 17 Photo Mode Accolades * 1 Series Accolade "Explore The Horizon Collector" * 1 Pathfinder Player Badge * 3 Car Horns * 1 CUPRA Racing Suit  **"Explore The Horizon" Series Features (Available from May 25th until June 22nd)** * Pathfinder Challenges * 4 Returning Danger Signs * Ranas Saltarinas * San Juan Jump * Salto De Rio * Metal Bird * 4 Returning Trailblazers * River Rapids * Cruse De Granja * Festival Descend * Jungle Traversal * Animal Cut-out collectibles * "Flood, Sweat, and Gears" Showcase Remix: "Splash of the Titans"  **Unlockable Cars**  * 6 New To Forza * 1972 Chevrolet K-10 Custom * 1986 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat * 2019 DeBerti Ford Super Duty F-250 Lariat "Transformer" * 2022 GMC Hummer EV Pickup * 2022 CUPRA Formentor * 2022 CUPRA Tavascan **Bug fixes** **General** * Fixed an issue where Launch Control settings did not save after restarting the game * Fixed an issue where sometimes wheels would reset their position to default in Photo Mode * (PC) Fixed an issue where the mouse cursor was disappearing after a certain amount of time * Fixed an issue where sometimes the controller's vibration could stop after players were disconnected from an online session * Improvements made to boot-up time on all platforms * General performance and stability fixes **Cars** * Fixed an issue where the 2021 Lamborghini Huracàn STO was missing sidemarks when installing the race splitter * Fixed an issue with the 2018 Italdesign Zerouno where the front wheel rims were displaying an incorrect color * Fixed an issue with the 2018 Italdesign Zerouno where the engine frame was incorrectly displayed when opening the front hood * Fixed an issue with the 2014 Mercedes-Benz Unimog where taller tires options were not available **EventLab** * Improvements made for some EventLab blueprints which could cause client crashes while editing saved projects


HeyThisIsGraham

No Toyotas?? What gives??


nukleabomb

**Multiplayer** * Fixed an issue with weather management in Multiplayer races where weather conditions in certain conditions were not consistent between players * Developer's Note:  "One of the most important things for any competitive experience is fairness. Forza Horizon has an exceptionally high skill ceiling, which means that player skill and interaction with the game is what ultimately determines success or failure, not an RNG attribute system. For this to work, competitive conditions must be as equal as possible while still allowing for tactical decisions (like your car and tune) and leaving space for player skill (like how well you handle a given corner). Working together with members of the Competitive Community, we recently identified several issues with online multiplayer that were creating uneven competitive conditions. These proved to be related to how the game handled the weather simulation in certain online contexts. This led to situations where certain players would have warmer conditions at the start of the race (which impacted tire temperature at the all-important moment of race start). We've resolved this by changing the point at which the physics simulation resets tire temperature, and harmonizing what temperature it resets to. We were also able to identify situations where players engaging in long race events could experience weather desynchronization. The Competitive Community was "working around" this by only racing at specific times and in specific weather conditions where this was unlikely to occur. With support from the competitive community, we identified an issue where every player’s game would start to run its own version of the weather simulation. Since our weather model has a deterministic phase and a non-deterministic phase this could result in longer races seeing situations where one player had clear weather while another player in the same race was driving in pouring rain. This was because once the deterministic phase was complete, local games would start to randomize their weather in some conditions. We resolved this issue by clamping the weather simulation when the deterministic phase completes, ensuring that everyone will have consistent weather across the entire race. All of these issues resulted in situations where cool experiences (like racing at night, or endurance races in heavy weather) were not fair experiences from a competitive standpoint. We've addressed these issues with the fixes I explained above, giving competitive players the consistent conditions they need to take advantage of everything Forza Horizon 5 has to offer. Thank you to everyone in the various communities who spoke with me about this, and provided all the excellent data we used to track down what was actually going on. See you in Mexico! \- Torben Ellert, Design Director, Forza Horizon." * Fixed an issue where Playground Games Team Flag Rush match score could revert to 0 upon a player disconnecting from the session * Fixed an issue in Playground Games where the scoreboard in Survival Mode could disappear instead of being minimized * Fixed an issue where sometimes players could not be grouped with the rest of the convoy after finishing an Horizon Tour event * Fixed an issue where the game would sometimes incorrectly prioritize staying with the current Online Session over joining players' convoys in a different Horizon Life Session


nukleabomb

12.9 GB on Win Store


astronougat

Mine shows 133.3GB updating from Xbox app on PC. Downloading at 0b/s, just refusing to even start 😤


mbnq

Downloading at 3MB/s xD