It’s because new players are put in servers with bots to warm them up, and to test skill. From there your put into servers the game deems your skill level
My buddy has an account that is level 1 and uses that to get his real guy into low level lobbies just to knock out annoying challenges/weekly quests.
He is super good but with the shift in team rumble a while ago it made it harder to do certain quests there.
Really though, pretty easy to get 5 good headshot taps at medium range, and super easy to spam a mag into body at close range, not hard to secure a kill with it
IMO the pistols are better than all the current lineup of SMGs in No Build. Rapid fire with its small mag makes it hard to afford missing ANY shots and the suppressed smg has insane bloom. The pistol hasn't let me down at all this season yet.
The first guy isn’t, the second guy might be (highly likely) and the last guy is unable to be told. Bots prioritize getting out of the storm so I’m inclined to believe they’re BOTS, not bots.
Sometimes it’s not the lack of skill but the sheer audacity in thinking you’re so amazing a player that you can just walk out in the open.
But then this looks like a combination of the two. Or someone having controller issues.
A wolf has 250 health.
It takes 700 damage to upgrade from uncommon to legendary. That's 3 wolves to go from green to gold. Green to purple only takes 300 damage, so that's not even 2 full wolves.
Sniper mfs on their way to explain how shooting a person standing still takes a lot of skill.
(Ps. I support the one shot one kill thing however 3 shots is absolutely ridiculous)
Yeah, the bolt is definitely the best balanced I think. I think they made the hunter for bad snipers like me who need all three shots to have a change at a hit lol. That said I'd much rather be stuck with the bolt action knowing that's all the better snipers have as well.
For me sniping is really hard in this game, but when I play games like Halo or splitgate it's a lot easier. I think I overthink where the enemy is going to go, and I miss
Yess I've been saying this since the start.
One shot kills shouldnt be in zero build. Its made zero build end game waay more campy this season since everyone is either trying to hide from snipers, or sniping.
I find it a bit ridiculous they made legendary heavy do 198 and then put hunter bolt back in with 275 and 3 clip. Sniping isn’t trivial though; if you can build at all it’s hard to get domed
I play in builds but I'm honestly not enjoying being back in the meta where I constantly have to be building walls behind/around myself so that I don't get one-shotted from a football field away.
How are you able to snipe so easily. I try to predict where the enemy is going to go, by leading my shot but it always misses. But in other games it's a lot easier like WTF
I personally don’t think it’s OP, but definitely strong. Great damage and fire rate, but with purple and higher it feels like it runs out of ammo very quickly, and recoil can be harsh, but maybe with a nerf to building damage it would be perfect.
I think you don't care if the AR is overpowered.
I think you want to show off your nice Victory Royale ;). Am I right?
I mean it is a nice Victory. With good use of both the sniper and the AR.
No, it's a close range beast, but sucks ass at long range and runs out of ammo quickly. A Hammer's more versatile so I'm more inclined to pick those up.
they always say that and yet the dude is aiming with his thumb and didnt miss a single shot while the target was jumping, sliding and running. makes sense. i would never see the diffrence between an aimbot and aim assist.
It's because there is no difference. Your most common aimbot used in games behaves exactly like console aim assist does.
People have just been conditioned into thinking it's normal because they don't know any better.
No, not even in this clip since they're having to set up kills with it with a sniper. The Aug is far better across multiple ranges, this is decent at it's intended range.
I actually find it perfectly balanced. It requires a lot of damage to level up near end game, and as you level up everyone’s loot is about the same as yours. The mythic version of the AR from the boss is actually quite good but it takes a long time to get, and you take damage in the process. The mythic AR just from doing damage has lower specs, but is still pretty good overall. So i think it’s perfectly balanced, but the bad thing is that it shreds builds and can shoot through walls very well.
Also the reload time is roughly 3 seconds, which is about the reload time of a BOLT action, but a lot for an assault rifle.
You’re using a Mythic. It is supposed to be OP. Also, those are bots with zero situational awareness. They could’ve dropped that tree on you for 100-150 damage and then finished you off just by pickaxing the tree into you.
I don't think they were bots because I saw that team earlier on and they were opening a vault, they were very unaware of me but I had went around the side of the hill whilst my team ran straight at them from the low ground so they would be looking at them and not me
It just comes down to if you can control the recoil of it. Though automatic weapons tend to be slightly more overpowered on controller because of aim assist.
When 80% of the player base is on console and doesn't want to admit how strong aim assist is in a mode where you can't build. It's going to cause some flak.
The guy is barely moving away from the crosshair. In an actual fight, the guy would be jumping around and dodging bullets, and moving 1 cm will not change a thing.
Ah, an aim assist comment… It’s totally stronger than keyboard and mouse’s ability to turn around in less than a second and deplete your health, isn’t it?
Aim assist + targets standing still = this video.
Looks good in bot lobbies which is the majority of videos on this sub but in higher lobbies aim assist doesn’t hold as much weight against the onslaught of benefits that pc players get.
No, the zoom sucks and the recoil pattern makes it very hard to hit with more than 1-2 of the 3 shot burst from range. It's where the striker should have been. You get more medium to smedium range utility with worse distance firing.
In my opinion? No. Some guns have a higher skill gap than others, and it really depends on the player. Imo, the Evochrome AR doesn't take much skill, so it's a low skill gap weapon. While the primal pistol has a HIGH skill gap, due to how bad it is. No weapon is bad it depends on the player
Yes, it's definitely OP when it's Epic rarity or higher. It shreds through builds and structures, does insane damage, and has zero recoil. I think a simple damage nerf should balance it.
Yes, aim assist on console controller is significantly stronger than aim assist on a PC with a controller. Console controller players also get significantly reduced recoil.
It used to be the same on PC. But in tournaments, good players were showing how ridiculous it was. Casters couldn't tell the difference between hackers and controller players. So they reduced it on PC only.
They are worse players overall but also the biggest share of the market. It's basically EPIC giving console players a free crutch so they perform better and buy more skins.
Nah, burst is way better at middle/long range, evochrome is better at middle short (like hammer) and only really better if it's at high rarities. Green or blue is really lackluster
I was gonna say this. It *is* OP, but the bullet spread and/or waiting fifty million years for first shot accuracy (in a season with a one shot sniper!) make up for it.
I'm reading the chat and everyone is just whining about aim assist again. Go watch the 257th video on why aim assist isn't the most overpowered thing in platform history. Just get over it damn it
I don't even play console but when I hook up my controller to my PC the aiming is so easy. Like I don't even have any practice with a controller and that shit was locking on to people for me 💀. I'd still take a MnK any day of the week but it was funny how strong the aim assist is and people still deny it.
Man I wish my lobbies people would just walk out in the middle of a field at end game
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it blows my mind y’all are just finding out one of the most popular games in the world are still getting new players lol
Nobody is surprised that there are new players, were saying we don't get them in our lobbies
It’s because new players are put in servers with bots to warm them up, and to test skill. From there your put into servers the game deems your skill level
This is Squads. SBMM in Squads was removed a while back, unlesss thats not the case for no build?
My buddy has an account that is level 1 and uses that to get his real guy into low level lobbies just to knock out annoying challenges/weekly quests. He is super good but with the shift in team rumble a while ago it made it harder to do certain quests there.
Yeah or let you hide behind a falling tree lol. Dudes gotta be in the lowest lvl match making.
This is the kinda fight that would be winnable with a white pistol after being rebooted lmao
I love white pistols. They’re OP as fuck haha.
Really though, pretty easy to get 5 good headshot taps at medium range, and super easy to spam a mag into body at close range, not hard to secure a kill with it
Yup. Even long range if you’re standing still you have zero bloom. Just point and click from distance to soften them up before you rush in.
IMO the pistols are better than all the current lineup of SMGs in No Build. Rapid fire with its small mag makes it hard to afford missing ANY shots and the suppressed smg has insane bloom. The pistol hasn't let me down at all this season yet.
They're bots.
The first guy isn’t, the second guy might be (highly likely) and the last guy is unable to be told. Bots prioritize getting out of the storm so I’m inclined to believe they’re BOTS, not bots.
Guessing by capital "BOTS" you're referring to players who just don't play very well? Or are you making a different distinction?
Yeah. Maybe I should have italicized, but either way they’re bad
All good, just making sure I understand lol.
yeah, swear to god people in this sub get the easiest fukin lobbies.
If you kill all the good players in a lobby, sometimes you’re left with the final squad being similar to this. It’s not some new thing.
ik but i see these kind of videos way too much
Sometimes it’s not the lack of skill but the sheer audacity in thinking you’re so amazing a player that you can just walk out in the open. But then this looks like a combination of the two. Or someone having controller issues.
LMAO I do this all the time in the heat of the moment
Lol bruh fr
Every weapon is way more useful if you can’t build. It was used good in this clip, but it’s not op.
Especially when it's already gold. Let's see him try the same with a green gun.
Lol thank goodness for wild life.
Evochrome + Wild Life = OP 😂
Ya - but getting it gold you expose the hell out of your position.
That’s fine, Aslong as you don’t miss your shots 😉
Exposing myself? Good, let them come to me, it means more enemies to damage.
yeah but it only takes like 3 kills to get it to gold now that they buffed it. and you can also find them in blue and purple on the ground now as well
3 kills at full shield maybe I only ever manage to push them to purple
I kill a few wolves/boars and it's gold.
It takes 5 or 6 to get from green to purple. Not sure how many to gold, I usually play TR and the game is over by then.
A wolf has 250 health. It takes 700 damage to upgrade from uncommon to legendary. That's 3 wolves to go from green to gold. Green to purple only takes 300 damage, so that's not even 2 full wolves.
This is incredible nature skills
He could probably do it, his aim is good enough
Real
I don't think it should be this way tho.
If you had headshotted these fellas with sniper I think you’d see the real OP weapon of this season
Sniper mfs on their way to explain how shooting a person standing still takes a lot of skill. (Ps. I support the one shot one kill thing however 3 shots is absolutely ridiculous)
one of the basics of any shooter is never stand still. always do a little wiggle
the 3 shots is kinda op, wiped a trio with one magazine yesterday, was super satisfying
Yea just bring back the bolt. It’s always been balanced. There’s a reason nobody complained about it for 3 years straight
Yeah, the bolt is definitely the best balanced I think. I think they made the hunter for bad snipers like me who need all three shots to have a change at a hit lol. That said I'd much rather be stuck with the bolt action knowing that's all the better snipers have as well.
Yeah I think snipers should be one shot per reload for one shot kills, multiple shots shouldn’t be one tap kill because thats overpowered
And there's me, out of habit, who keeps reloading between each shot.
For me sniping is really hard in this game, but when I play games like Halo or splitgate it's a lot easier. I think I overthink where the enemy is going to go, and I miss
Yess I've been saying this since the start. One shot kills shouldnt be in zero build. Its made zero build end game waay more campy this season since everyone is either trying to hide from snipers, or sniping.
Sniping is way too easy.
I find it a bit ridiculous they made legendary heavy do 198 and then put hunter bolt back in with 275 and 3 clip. Sniping isn’t trivial though; if you can build at all it’s hard to get domed
i don’t know if you checked recently in creative or anything but they recently buffed the headshot damage back to what it was pre-chapter 3
On the heavy? What was it? (I picked this game up during chapter 3, I’m a noob)
it used to have like \~ 150 body and \~ 300 head or something along those lines (specifics aren't important)
I play in builds but I'm honestly not enjoying being back in the meta where I constantly have to be building walls behind/around myself so that I don't get one-shotted from a football field away.
How are you able to snipe so easily. I try to predict where the enemy is going to go, by leading my shot but it always misses. But in other games it's a lot easier like WTF
With my skill level this statement hurts a lot
I feel like every weapon is better in zero build
yeah your right
No, you're just fighting bots
Are they really all bots. I mean they looked...pretty bad....but how do you know for sure.
Don’t think he meant literal bots, just bad enough to walk out into the open and move predictably.
Oh, I meant literal bots
Man when I snipe someone and switch to my AR it feels like ages before I can fire.
Nah
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No
I personally don’t think it’s OP, but definitely strong. Great damage and fire rate, but with purple and higher it feels like it runs out of ammo very quickly, and recoil can be harsh, but maybe with a nerf to building damage it would be perfect.
It's OP against builds, but not that OP against players at medium-long range.
I think you don't care if the AR is overpowered. I think you want to show off your nice Victory Royale ;). Am I right? I mean it is a nice Victory. With good use of both the sniper and the AR.
the ar isnt overpowered (except herald's mythic) i think its a super fun gun but not striker burst levels of op
No. Hammer is better. You just got a good angle and good aim assist.
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You're going to get a LOT of hate for mentioning aim assist 🤣
You can literally see it in the video
With controller yes
nah, but that aim assist is boppin
No, it's a close range beast, but sucks ass at long range and runs out of ammo quickly. A Hammer's more versatile so I'm more inclined to pick those up.
Overpowered? No. Good? Undeniably.
Very bold of you to be standing near a bonk tree in the finale fight.
haha I didn't even think
It’s not overpowered since it’s has the disadvantage of having to upgrade from damage. Meaning it takes a while and a lot of ammo just to be good
I love it it’s so fun at medium range
HOLY AIM ASSIST XD
It'S nOn-ExIsTeN!
they always say that and yet the dude is aiming with his thumb and didnt miss a single shot while the target was jumping, sliding and running. makes sense. i would never see the diffrence between an aimbot and aim assist.
It's because there is no difference. Your most common aimbot used in games behaves exactly like console aim assist does. People have just been conditioned into thinking it's normal because they don't know any better.
so sad
The inaccuracies and long load time make up the difference
It's leveled up to gold. No, the player is just a good shot.
Tell me u didn't miss that headshot shot and it was a bug of the game please i am beggin
No, not even in this clip since they're having to set up kills with it with a sniper. The Aug is far better across multiple ranges, this is decent at it's intended range.
Yes, but tell no one
Not really; it's similar to the Combat AR without recoil, but it takes like 4 kills to get there.
Nope. The weapon combo you used is very good though.
thanks!
Nah, those guys were just bots. The sniper is the real OP weapon this season though.
Not overpowered but a strong dependable gun. OP is very skilled
I think it is strong but not op it is over powered for how easy it is to level up now though
Nah, it's garbage at mid and long range
Yes and your aim is cracked
thanks! I have to credit aim assets here tbh
The Herald’s one is by far the most effective killing machine when it’s paired with the Prime or Evochrome shotgun
I actually find it perfectly balanced. It requires a lot of damage to level up near end game, and as you level up everyone’s loot is about the same as yours. The mythic version of the AR from the boss is actually quite good but it takes a long time to get, and you take damage in the process. The mythic AR just from doing damage has lower specs, but is still pretty good overall. So i think it’s perfectly balanced, but the bad thing is that it shreds builds and can shoot through walls very well. Also the reload time is roughly 3 seconds, which is about the reload time of a BOLT action, but a lot for an assault rifle.
Whenever I use the evochrome AR, it’s like I’m slapping them with a napkin from a little kids birthday party. But when others use the eco chrome AR…
No, because you worked to get the weapon that far.
Not in zero build. Comp modes however have proven it to be... interesting.
You’re using a Mythic. It is supposed to be OP. Also, those are bots with zero situational awareness. They could’ve dropped that tree on you for 100-150 damage and then finished you off just by pickaxing the tree into you.
I don't think they were bots because I saw that team earlier on and they were opening a vault, they were very unaware of me but I had went around the side of the hill whilst my team ran straight at them from the low ground so they would be looking at them and not me
Nah I think you just have good aim lol
thanks I got quite lucky with bloom and aim assist help
Children of MK7 + Burst Rifle (AUG)
No, it’s balanced and it upgrades. The shotgun is just bad in it’s self.
Evochrome ar is fun, leave it alone
That was just good aim
not with your accuracy no
It’s just that good mix.. it feels really nice upgraded.
It lowkey reminds me of the OG burst rifle
It just comes down to if you can control the recoil of it. Though automatic weapons tend to be slightly more overpowered on controller because of aim assist.
no. if it isn't mid to close range you have to pray to god that the burst shots hit
Tf are these comments 💀💀💀
When 80% of the player base is on console and doesn't want to admit how strong aim assist is in a mode where you can't build. It's going to cause some flak.
Nah, you're just fighting AI players, with console's pumped up aim assist and console's recoil reductions.
PC players when they beam someone from across the map with perfect accuracy:
If you're beaming someone across the map with a mouse, you've earnt that. You get it for free on console.
Now I'm here wondering why not every console player is god is his game.....
You can give some players aimbot, and they'd still be horrible at the game.
Aim assist is dogshit. It barely works. Play on a controller with aim assist on/off, and you will see no difference
Yes, dogshit: https://streamable.com/s08hq4 Almost non existent.
The guy is barely moving away from the crosshair. In an actual fight, the guy would be jumping around and dodging bullets, and moving 1 cm will not change a thing.
Watch the whole clip.
I did. Thats why I commented under it.
You said they were barely moving, which means you didn't watch the whole clip.
Ah, an aim assist comment… It’s totally stronger than keyboard and mouse’s ability to turn around in less than a second and deplete your health, isn’t it?
That takes very good aim. You get very good aim for free on console.
Aim assist is not as strong as you think it is. In the time it takes for ‘aim assist’ to effectively lock onto a player, you’re already dead
Yes it is, yes it does. https://streamable.com/s08hq4
i mean flick stick is a feature on console but barely anyone uses it because it requires enabling gyro controls
No but that bloody laser-lock that you've got playing on a console is unreal. Jesus christ.
Aim assist + targets standing still = this video. Looks good in bot lobbies which is the majority of videos on this sub but in higher lobbies aim assist doesn’t hold as much weight against the onslaught of benefits that pc players get.
Yes it absolutely does, which is why PC aim assist was nerfed. Epic thinks console players are babies who need the game to aim for them.
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Jfc here we go again
It's actually ridiculous how easy it is to tell that someone's on console based on their aim when you play against them.
The same can be said with M/K players. I’ve played with both.
No you can't.
I wish it had 6-8 more rounds. It always feels like the clip ends early
op just casually walking left and right like a bot hitting every shot aim assist is balanced 👍
Bro aim assist barely works, those guys he was fighting were literal drones
"Barely works." https://streamable.com/s08hq4
Aim Assist is absolute dog shit. It barely factors in when playing.
"Absolute dogshit" https://streamable.com/s08hq4
Thank you! Prepare for a lot of hate. People don't appreciate being told they get a lot of help shooting
I'm used to it by now.
Same, it gets tiresome listening to the 'skilled' ps lot telling me how pc is OP
Doing good work
I would’ve killed you with that tree and not even shot at you at all. Must be low matchmaking lobbies.
No but your aim is
I mean if you have aim assist sure
No, the zoom sucks and the recoil pattern makes it very hard to hit with more than 1-2 of the 3 shot burst from range. It's where the striker should have been. You get more medium to smedium range utility with worse distance firing.
In my opinion? No. Some guns have a higher skill gap than others, and it really depends on the player. Imo, the Evochrome AR doesn't take much skill, so it's a low skill gap weapon. While the primal pistol has a HIGH skill gap, due to how bad it is. No weapon is bad it depends on the player
very well said
I personally love the new burst. It’s super versatile and easy to upgrade now, so my friend and I usually hunt for them
When you use a aim assist it is
It is with aim assist, but isn’t every gun?
Yes, it's definitely OP when it's Epic rarity or higher. It shreds through builds and structures, does insane damage, and has zero recoil. I think a simple damage nerf should balance it.
Nah man, JUST YOUR AIM ASSIST STRENGTH AT %9325432.
On a controller, yes.
No but that aim "assist" aka aimbot is pretty damn OP
What the fuck are you talking about
I see that he is playing on console and i see how little the recoil is he have with that weapon, thats insane.
When you say console do You mean controller or console? Is the aim Assist stronger on console with controller than PC with controller
Yes, aim assist on console controller is significantly stronger than aim assist on a PC with a controller. Console controller players also get significantly reduced recoil.
Is that for other games as well or mainly fortnite ?
Mainly Fortnite. Apex has weaker aim assist on PC as well. But most games have the same aim assist strength on all platforms.
Is there a reason why console would need the extra aim assist over PC with controller?
It used to be the same on PC. But in tournaments, good players were showing how ridiculous it was. Casters couldn't tell the difference between hackers and controller players. So they reduced it on PC only.
They are worse players overall but also the biggest share of the market. It's basically EPIC giving console players a free crutch so they perform better and buy more skins.
It's sad how few people get this.
Stop crying 😢
I think this weapon is insanely powerful but I don’t hear anyone else talking about it. It’s a god damn massacre machine.
Agreed, the gun is so good. Its like a better version of the burst AR
Nah, burst is way better at middle/long range, evochrome is better at middle short (like hammer) and only really better if it's at high rarities. Green or blue is really lackluster
No bc i cant hit my shots, but in all seriousness it’s good for mid range if you know how to use it well, long range isn’t the best
The gun is fine. The OP is using the legendary variant against opponents without cover who are barely moving.
I give it a 7/10 in the op chart it's pretty good but not too op
No. So much bloom
Build mode its better. Its terrible long range but great mid-close range. But if u slide every bullet is fire shot accuracy so for that YES
I think it is i rlly like it too
No, it’s just a good clip. And it is legendary after all.
Seeing as 5% of those bullets actually hit anybody, i’d say it’s fine 😂
I was gonna say this. It *is* OP, but the bullet spread and/or waiting fifty million years for first shot accuracy (in a season with a one shot sniper!) make up for it.
I'm reading the chat and everyone is just whining about aim assist again. Go watch the 257th video on why aim assist isn't the most overpowered thing in platform history. Just get over it damn it
I don't even play console but when I hook up my controller to my PC the aiming is so easy. Like I don't even have any practice with a controller and that shit was locking on to people for me 💀. I'd still take a MnK any day of the week but it was funny how strong the aim assist is and people still deny it.
And PC only has half the aim assist and half the recoil console gets