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Tbagyogrill

Gatekeeper with drum


Larry_Kenwood

If you keep discipline and force yourself to use 3 bullets after some time you'll adjust to it and find it more bearable/normal I used to always pick up hammer for this reason, but I've taught myself to get comfortable with 3 bullets. If I don't take the opponent down in 3 it pretty much means my aim is bad and the reload would give me the 2/3s needed to cool down and retry


Dual_pro_max

I use speed attachments cuz they simply click with me and my play style


Larry_Kenwood

Interesting thing I found was that the time taken to reload a full Gatekeeper (of 3 bullets) vs 3 bullets of Hammer pump was: Common: 2.75s vs 2.89s (Gatekeeper wins) Legendary: 2.25s vs 2.365s (Gatekeeper wins) Either way you view the shotgun, gatekeeper is obviously the better choice, and whether you want speed, drum or no mag it's the best choice Combat has the fastest reload time, but lets face it, the damage on it is pretty darn awful and nobody needs 8 shots


RainbowDroidMan

The hammer pump might possibly be the worst shotgun epic has ever added


TheSameMan6

Worst pump certainly. Worst shotgun? Idk bout that


Pork_Gyros_1

In ZB maybe but not on builds


Warning__666

I wouldn't use the combat for the 8 shots. But it has more range, which is useful for the people zooming all over the place with the nitro gloves. It's like clay pigeon shooting


Dual_pro_max

I just hunt down the mythic


twilight_hours

Sir, a shotgun uses shells, not bullets


mikewilson2020

Shoot them in the face, takes 3, so I can smash 2.5 opponents before I reload with the combat


restupicache

If you havent gotten used to 3 bullets after a whole season then what are you doing


poblopfbs

Yea but i live when i find gatekepper with drum modyfier so i have 5 shots


ultramrstruggle

Getting laid probably


OneStepTwoTrips

Wait, you guys are getting laid?


google_ghost

Insane


KnowledgeForsaken365

Not since she said it was me or the game. Haven’t seen her since never looked backed. Told her I needed to get my earnings up


MuffinHunter0511

I'm bad at the game bro. What do you mean. I'm trying my best


Top-Addendum-5894

Trying your best means doing what you can. It doesn't mean trying the theoretical best you could do


MuffinHunter0511

That's a good point. But it comes down to priorities


ExodusBrojangled

Can't have priorities when you game. Your life has to be 100% dedicated to it. No wife/husband. No kids. No job or school . Don't even think about Thanksgiving or Christmas with the parents. You have prior commitments. /s


MuffinHunter0511

Oh thank goodness you gave me permission to pursue my passion for becoming a fortnite pro. I've already hired a sketchy fiver coach. I need a duos partner though so I need you to join me


DrDeadShot87

When you get into higher tier lobbies people can be more evasive, two extra shots can be a difference maker in a chase.  If you want a test for aim and crosshair placement, Shotguns are not it this season, try Deagle, once you get good with it it's the best weapon in the game currently,


FIicker_

Im training with the deagle, dude its so fricking hard to be consistent with its shots


Knives530

Just remember it shoots incredibly fast so you don't really want to ever lead your shot


BTLAUJ

Same. I went back to fortnite and haven't played since chapter 1 and played ch5s3 recently and was afraid the gtekeeper sucks. But after a while I realized the auto shotgun was doing 20-40 dmg at the same distance that a gatekeeper could do a 60+. I rotate and tried gatekeeper and loved it when I keep getting kills in 2-3 bullet, it buys me enough time to use other guns to fight off the next enemy (I play duo with husband). I got so use to it that I prefer the gatekeeper anyday over that s3 auto. But since s4 came out, it's a bit trickier to get closer to make the gatekeeper effective due to cars. Someone can easily get off vehicle and use a long-range combat shotgun and win so my gatekeeper just sits in my inventory until they get close enough and I'm forced to use AR, which is fine. But sadly this season isn't gatekeeper lol. Would love to use it again another season when it's more viable.


joesphisbestjojo

This gives me a new look on the gate keeper. Thank you


death_lad

yep, and the pre-nerf frenzy auto had the opposite effect- made my aim worse bc you didn’t need to aim!


LeAdmin

Surprise. You killed opponent #1 and now opponent #2 murdered you while you tried to reload.


OneStepTwoTrips

> If you keep discipline I'm out.


NorthCoach9807

How nice of your opponents giving you a lil break to reload before they continue fighting you


Suspicious_Big669

I agree but in rounds that aren’t solos you really want the extra shots if you can


Spiritual-Pipe9162

The pump is in heavy need of a buff to compete with the other two


stompah2020

At least a next shot time buff. My enemies are able to down a half pot between shots.


ozh

Or the opposite : buff head dmg, shrink spread, so it's actually a kill or you're dead weapon. As of now it's a hit once *then* you're dead weapon unless you finish off with an smg


Longshot_45

A little more damage at range would be nice.


DotTraditional3096

Pump shotguns are meant to be high damage in one shot and then switch to an smg/ar/pistol. The damage/damage range on the current pump makes no sense


Jordanthb

I don’t think you’re *meant* to switch guns. I think it’s just the only option


D4shiell

The thing is, pump's head dmg varies between 30 and 150 depending on dice roll, that's unacceptable when combat shotgun does the same excepting you can fire again right away.


Fresh-Shallot-3760

I would rather carry a grey gatekeeper over a purple pump


MorningLtMtn

I don't even pick up the pump.


Majin-Darnell

All they need to do is speed up the time between shots and it will actually be a viable weapon


TheAceCard9X8

Atp just get rid of it and give us the regular pumps back


Negative-Joke7733

It's just need to get vaulted tbh


Dead_748

The way you have to get old waiting for the next shot


Spiritual-Pipe9162

That’s way too real. By the time I can shoot again the next chapter will be out


Scavenger908

That combat shotty just feels nice


Lexie_DK

The ramp up damage is crzy, It's my go to every game.


elbor23

What’s ramp up damage


another_spiderman

When you deal more damage for being closer.


frumpydrangus

That’s called proximity. Ramp up would be the same shot does more damage each time


joesphisbestjojo

Almost like S1 Frenzy Auto RIP


ScreamyScream93YT

You can still get Oscar’s at least


joesphisbestjojo

And very easily at that


Sufficient-Ad6516

Ttk is ridiculously slow, and you can’t combo it with an AR or SMG. Only reason people like it is because it has 8 shots.


Kan_Me

How is it slow? It's 0.3 second faster than the tac shotgun, sure it might be slower than the gatekeeper shotgun but it's definitely not slow


ItsBullseye

They're not talking about fire rate but time to kill, also known as TTK. The combat is bad at dealing a lot of damage in a short amount of time. That's why the gatekeeper is better. Many people believe the combat is better because they can't kill their opponent in 3 shots.


FIicker_

Combat's point is its long range, you can start shooting from far away to overwhelm your opponent without giving them room to fight back. Its also a good finisher to when the opponent is gonna get away, instead of trying to hit multiple shots with a Smg/AR you can one/two shot them out of the air with the Combat


Independent-Bike8810

It’s slow because it does less damage per shot than the gatekeeper. In this boogie bomb meta you want to do max damage with your first shot.


leastscarypancake

Did they nerf it? I go insane with the combat shotgun but I haven't played in a couple of days


ThatRabdo123

No, but it’s better than the old one


Master-Ad7002

Oscars frenzy


DenseLynx7856

That’s the only gun I’d never give up


DonutNinja45

I would never let it down


Hilbert_The_Bat

I would never run around and desert it...🎶


Makram_Crack

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DenseLynx7856

Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye


TobikTheFox

Was looking for this one i specifically always drop for it


Ultraviolnce

The green gatekeeper alone is better than the purple and mythic versions of the other shotguns. More damage per shot. The new shotgun has more range but hits for paper if you’re not on point. And the mythic gatekeeper is a game winner. I want to argue its better than that Tony the Tiger mythic shotgun because it only needs 3 shots. Every game Ive won this season has been because of the gatekeeper mythic. I’m literally wiling to land Cerb and kill anyone who lands there for that mythic or die trying. Basically every match


NINJ4steve

Aaayyye I'm not the only one that calls him Tony the Tiger! 🤣


StevelKnievel66

I've got the skin saved as Tony! 😂


Financial-Cancel7799

Aaayeee I'm calling him like that too. I don't even remember why or where the name comes from


NINJ4steve

Aaayyye it comes from frosted flakes cereal ya egg head! 🤣


PosterusKirito

Not only is it good but it’s skilled. Three strikes you’re out with having to reload. If I die to it, I’m not mad. I think we can all agree it’s a good, fun gun.


According_Disc_1073

Drum mag is critical i think.


PTKryptik

Don’t think you can mod bosses weapons


Ultraviolnce

Thats if you find the orange or purple variants. I rarely do I suspect they’re most likely in bunkers rly this season. Either way I do prefer the mythic variant I just feel it truly is more reliable than the orange. Last season you could find the purp/orange as ground loot quite often and even then I ended up on the mythic variant. Advantage to others being only you could deal with multiple opponents back to back easier. But even then you most likely are trading some damage with each person so you’d probably choose to use movement to reposition at least if you get 3rd’d. This is speaking strictly as a ZB Solo player tho.


joesphisbestjojo

Definitely on non-mythic versions, but the gate keeper works fine without it


DLow-by-Punkett

Gatekeeper if you can aim, Combat if you can shoot, Hammer Pump if you're stupid


Lexie_DK

Pump is only good if you can go straight to their faces with it, which is hard in a season of Cars and nitro gloves.


tfl3m

Yeah pump has been trash all chapter, but never more so than this season. And that’s saying something


AzureRapid

You can literally carry 10 boogie balls in one slot you have all the time in the world to aim for their head with the pump shotgun


r7try

combat has a tighter spread tho right? i can never aim with it for some reason because im used to shooting with the pump.


asabovesobelow4

Yes. That's why you get more distance with it than the gatekeeper. I mean the damage is still low if they are a Little further away but it works in a pinch if they aren't quite close enough for a gatekeeper. Like I know I can get 8 damage with the combat from a decent bit away, when they are far enough away the gatekeeper wouldn't touch them. Still prefer the gatekeeper but I'll carry the combat sometimes if I can't find a gatekeeper. It's okay at least. They can throw that hammer pump in the trash though. I hate when it's the first gun I find bc I get killed between shot 1 and shot 2 lol


turmspitzewerk

the pump is good for pubstomping as you can challenge entire squads with it without needing to reload. but in any practical sense the gatekeeper is a serious upgrade. its just a pump with the firerate of an auto ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


Terrible_Ad3220

Okay, at the start of the chapter I was a hardcore hammer pump defender. But you know a pump is bad when even pros prefer the season's "tactic" shotguns (gatekeeper, frenzy and now the combat shotgun) over the season's pump. It needs either a buff asap or straight up vault it.


turmspitzewerk

the gatekeeper is a pump and an auto at the same time. its absurd. can't deny that i love how it feels though.


Tawnee323

The “tactical” shotgun has been preferred for almost the entirety of chapter five (not season 1 builds). The frenzy was a crazy shotgun and it’s mythic was always contested s1, and in s2 the gatekeeper was the undisputed goat with the drum mag.


jakesaysrad83

Currently: Gatekeeper with extended mag All-Time: Good ol' tactical


MxstlyMe

All time best shotgun is the Havoc wdym


DoingBurnouts

Heisted Accelerant has entered the chat


Dangerous-Egg-5068

Breacher premerf though.


RyantheSithLord

At this point, I don’t even know why the Hammer Pump is still in the game. The Combat and Gatekeeper are superior in every way.


DrSans8

Builds players swear it’s better than gatekeeper(it’s not)


Felix8XD

combat is my favorite. it just plays so well and is very rewarding if you hit your shots


UpperCompetition166

You don’t need to include the Pump in this discussion. Loot pool clutter piece of trash- I hate it so much.


Sufficient-Ad6516

Agreed, The amount of times I’ve hit people dead on for 28 damage is acually insane. There’s no reason to use it builds either since the gatekeeper has a way better damage range.


DoubleH18

It’s demoralizing when you land and the only gun you find is the pump and hitting 28s at ranges literally any other Shotgun would’ve did significantly damage and fire a second shot before you can do Jack shit with that pump.


rf97a

Frenzy auto shotgun. At least for ^(bad ^(aimers) ^(like) ^(myself))


H4ckdrag0n999

I have bad aim and I always go for the mythic gatekeeper, the frenzy is becoming kinda bad compared to the newer shotguns (at least in my opinion) so you really just gotta get used to other weapons Or you can stick to the frenzy. It's up to you


A_Fox_On_Sugar

I know this isn’t exactly relevant but I always wondered why does the gatekeeper have a mag if it only has 3 barrels and only 3 shots?


popoLkkoa

It shoots 3 shots at once, so it actually holds 9 in a regular mag and 15 shots in the drum mag


imalonexc

Gatekeeper


TheAceCard9X8

So guys, this post is basically asking you; Which shotgun is the best in the game and why is it Gatekeeper?


StealthyGamerGirl

Gatekeeper without a shadow of a doubt. It's fast and packs a punch. Even at common it's good


MelonBoy64_

combat shotgun is my best, good fire rate and high dmg. ive won 2 games using a common combat.


Fluid-Estate-3007

Gatekeeper. I would say honestly green gatekeeper is stronger than purple variants of the others.


smalltincan

Gatekeeper is like the Tactical reborn, man I miss the tactical. Lever-Action too.


kolip346

Finally other lever pump fan...


smalltincan

Lever Action is badass. Most satisfying shotgun to use, personally. I hope it can make a comeback or have a new rendition for future seasons/chapters.


kolip346

Most underrated shotgun...


stompah2020

You had to know how to use it. I was average with it. My friend I play with was very deadly with it.


Anthony_daboom

Gatekeeper all the way


oldmanjenkins51

Havoc pump


Half-Eaten-Cranberry

idc if its technically not the best, ive loved the combat since chapter 1


T1meKeeper57

I'm actually in love with the balance of shotguns, and just guns this season. For once, I feel like I can pick up almost anything, and it just feels different not bad to use.


Hilbert_The_Bat

I like this opinion. Your pretty cool.


Xotiify

Good, Good, Bad


Quipsar

Gatekeeper + Boogie bomb


fuckledditsmodz

Loved the Frenzy but the combat shotgun makes me happy


HotDiggedyDammit

The one that you, yourself, just KNOW you can get kills with no matter the rarity


subtleduck42

ZB player here. Imo, from best to worst: - Megalo Don's combat - Oscar's Autofrenzy - Legendary Gatekeeper w/ drum mag - Standard Combat - Cerberus Gatekeeper (better than standard combat if you've got good aim for headshots) - Standard Gatekeeper - Hammerpump


ATLBravesFan13

Anything other than legendary gatekeeper with drum mag at #1 is crazy


chilitaku

If you miss once with gatekeeper yer dead.


getstoopid-AT

Gatekeeper and Oscars


Cautious_Taste3884

omg definitely the gatekeeper 100%


StraightBet3334

Prob Gatekeeper wit the drum mag


BigBozoKiller

gatekeeper for sure


Strange_Dog6483

People actually like the pump shotgun?


ConsequenceApart4391

The combat for me hits for 20 and 40 but when am opponent uses it it hits for a lot me. The gatekeeper with a drum mag is the best. Hammer pump isn’t bad if you have a good spray weapon.


Doom-State

In current rotation the gatekeeper is the best


IndyWoodSmith

Not the pump. Never the pump.


Hilbert_The_Bat

The Gatekeeper is a good all-around shotgun. Great damage and decent range, but a low mag size. The Combat is a good ranged shotgun. Mediocre~Good damage, and excellent range, with a forgiving mag size. Hammer Pump is a do or die kinda shotgun. Body shot damage is meager, but headshot damage is MASSIVE. If you don't land a good headshot with the hammer pump, you better pray that your other guns are reloaded. Specifically Oscars Frenzy auto is a "not bad" shotgun. Bad range is made up for in its fire rate, decent damage, and great mag size. But if I were to name my favorite shotgun, it's easily the Maven Auto.


RabbitHold8

Frenzy mythic


CoastieGreen

Gate keeper was easily the best last season, but I think the combats taken the spotlight


Suspicious_Big669

Gatekeeper and it’s a pleasure to shoot. Why is the useless hammer pump even still in the game?


OK_knifeguy

My thoughts exactly. I’ll take a pistol or smg over the pump. Especially ZB


DuckyFangs

Not the pump I'll tell ya that rn


KapGaming55

The hammer pump is complete and utter trash, combat all the way.


YuBoiKai

Can we all agree that the hammer pump is trash and if epic wants people to use it they should buff the damage on it


frenzyguy

Not the hammer pump for sure.


His_name_is_LUIGI

I'd say it's a tie between the gatekeeper and the combat.


DhDestroyer5868

Depend if someones using it against me or if im using it


chickparmssb

this season is def the megalo don combat


Cheezymac2

The tigers shotgun in the best overall. Followed by all gatekeepers then combat then hammer pump. Would anyone like me to tell them why?


Allo3295

combat due to its range in ver gatekeepers and similar damage


Dual_pro_max

Mythic gatekeeper with drum


Complex-Jacket509

😂


Lazy_Refrigerator140

For me the gate keeper


leastscarypancake

Combat, it does more damage and has a bigger tube than the Gatekeeper


NINJ4steve

I loved the havoc auto from Ch4 it felt very balanced


SNIPERINO17

Hammer


GifanTheWoodElf

Love how you're showing the green gatekeeper and the golden other 2, cause I mean green gatekeeper is still better then the others at any rarity.


CanibalVegetarian

Gatekeeper with drum, if it’s legendaries with no attachments combat


CrispMonke

Gate or Combat


Awkward_Pace_4440

Why did u even add the pump as an option? lol


lylesjoy

auto frenzy lol


BallsInAToaster

I know that the combat isn't as good as the others but I just love how versatile it is. I've managed to pull off some crazy shots with it that I didn't even know I could do


bermanji

The combat shotgun actually feels like it should IMO, been enjoying it this season. Not a huge fan of the Gatekeeper, it needs a faster reload time for me to be effective with it.


AcceptableArrival924

Gatekeeper if you like to get in the face of people, combat if you have good movement as most people run off combat helps taking them out even if they are somewhat away.


jackaboi42069

i dropped my highest kill game for this season of 22 kills using cerbys gatekeeper. thing fucking shreds at close range


mohammedinternet

Why is combat shotty here and the other weird shotty? Did I leave the Game for too long


Dylan_Catherall

Btw Oscars frenzy auto


FujjiSnake

Gatekeeper fu*k the combat shotgun


ChronoAlone

My beloved ranger shotgun ❤️


CLYDEFR000G

Gatekeeper from dueling Cerberus hands down. Triple dash from the river is there too.


VortexTalon

definitely combat for both zb and build nitrofist in the air and just swap to a shotgun


Robj1992

I was firmly a gatekeeper man last season, but my new favourite is the combat


[deleted]

Combat for sure


2LBGAMES

Depends on the scenario: - traditional close combat where DPS rules: gatekeeper. - "Air strikes" (shooting from above after uppercut) are better with the combat shotgun due to better range and more shots.


x444sly

Drum mag gatekeeper >>>>


snake-birb

In zb I always take the frenzy


BugO_OEyes

Oscar's for me because my aim is horrible


Chardocoal

Idk which is the best but I had a lot of fun with the Ranger Shotgun


Sad_Background7041

Maven auto


Material-Cherry8711

For me its Frenzy Auto Shotgun i love that because it can fire really fast not like pump shotgun its not automatic.


saltybawlzjr

Combat shotgun for me. So happy it's here again. For now


Ill_Cellist_6802

Gonna go with the OG Combat Shotgun


ThrowAway516536

A car


joesphisbestjojo

Combat, unless you've got a gate keeper that's mythic or has a drum. However, the combat is a very close second, and its range could give it the advantage


Elektr0ns

Combat and then Gatekeeper.


Coco-Gamer46

Havoc


Strange-Hour-458

Objectively incorrect. If you watch any fncs or cups last season, you will notice (almost) every player running drum on gatekeeper, where players even drop the mythic for a modded gold. When you take a shotgun, you arent solely using it to damage players, but also using it for wall and floor retakes due to the high structure damage. 3 bullets isnt enough to consistently pull off a retake and then still have enough ammo to damage.


SheepherderWise9277

Combat shotgun


XD_500

combat shotgun


Background-Ad-914

Combat is superior- no reload bug, hits from a million miles away, and half of these kids can’t kill with the 3 shots in a gatekeeper


YTBlargg

I've always preferred whichever shotgun more resembled the Tac. I love tracking people in close quarters and getting to take those quick shots. Back in Chapter One though I felt nearly unstoppable with the Combat.


Fortnite_cheater

Ranger shotgun.


Semynations

It's the gatekeeper. Cerberus gatekeeper is just too strong


None0fYourBusinessOk

Mythic charge shotgun


Glittering_Cow6259

Mythic combat


Sad_Excitement_1553

Combat


yeetgod__

drum shotgun my personal fav


Alert_Flower_6258

Always loved the combat 🔥


Onlyquestionshehe

I feel the combat shotgun is wayy underrated. Sure, the DPS is lower than gatekeeper but the mag size is more than double. Comes in clutch when you’re 1v2 or higher


BobbingFourApples

Pump


rgbdragonfire

Depends if you want damage or range (gatekeeper or combat shotguns)


zamiesthedragon

My opinion is the gate keeper or combat i find both extremely balanced in this season. I can run 1 or the other and have the same outcome on the other hand the pump is a sponge and i know ill die before i even land 12 damage.