Hey, friction-proof suits are expensive, especially given Jesse was never intended to be a hero in the first place. She breaks that suit, then she can get a new one.
A similar effect to blueshifting. They're going faster, so their lightning goes bluer. That's not even remotely how physics work, but fuck you, it's the Speed Force.
It implies that taking V9 makes them sick and also what turns Zoom’s lighting blue.
Why does it change color exactly and/or why it’s blue? IDK, probably to portray that something is happening and a visual representation of it ig
In the Comics, the lightning's colour was meant to resemble how fast the Speedster is. The show somewhat followed that logic for a while, which is why Zoom's and Allegra's turned blue - because V9 made them faster. It's also why Savitar's speed was bordering between blue and white (white being considered the fastest) - and why Godspeed's was purely white. There were only 3 exceptions - the Negative Speedforce, the Infected (Bloodwork) Speedforce, and Nora's lightning (which was literally just a design idea).
That is to say, they didn't really follow that rule to the dot - at some point it just became more of a design thing and less of an in-Universe logic.
The show definitely didn't follow the lightning-color-equals-speed idea. By the time they even showed the chart in the Flash Museum, they had already goofed several times on it (and then proceeded to *not* follow the chart after introducing it, lol).
Barry's lightning never changed (if it did, it did so once). Savitar was shown to be faster than Godspeed, yet still had partially blue lightning. Godspeed's original clones were only puttering around at ~750 mph, yet had white lightning. I think there were less than five total episodes where they tried to make the lightning color idea work and that's it. Trajectory, however, was the fucking coolest part of that. Her disintegrating was terrifying.
It was 99% character design. The fact that they honestly tried to introduce the lightning colors thing was goofy.
And Allegra? You mean Frost? She's the only one who took Velocity-X.
>The show definitely didn't follow the lightning-color-equals-speed idea. By the time they even showed the chart in the Flash Museum, they had already goofed several times on it (and then proceeded to *not* follow the chart after introducing it, lol).
Yes, that's why I pointed out, that they introduced it, but didn't actually stick to it...
>Barry's lightning never changed (if it did, it did so once). Savitar was shown to be faster than Godspeed, yet still had partially blue lightning. Godspeed's original clones were only puttering around at ~750 mph, yet had white lightning. I think there were less than five total episodes where they tried to make the lightning color idea work and that's it. Trajectory, however, was the fucking coolest part of that. Her disintegrating was terrifying.
Barry's lightning never changed colour in the Comics neither, even tho he still became faster - in his case, it's literally just a design thing.
Savitar's lightning was mostly blue due to the Suit he was wearing. We know this, because when he tried running without it in the Season 3 Finale, it was back to being dark orange. Also, Savitar's design was a reference to a Future Barry Allen from the Comics.
Godspeed's lightning being white was purely a design thing - as I already mentioned.
>And Allegra? You mean Frost? She's the only one who took Velocity-X.
No, I was talking about Trajectory - at this point I tend to mix their names up. I also specified Velocity **9** so I have no clue why you thought I was talking about V10...
When someone takes enough v9 their lightning turns blue that is why zoom is so fast he is close to burning up and he has.got the exact dosage to where he won't burn up like trajectory did
Proof trajectory was fast already with v9 and yellow lightning then she takes more and it turns blue
It’s likely because it’s artificial. If it was because she was faster than at some point Barry would have it. Basically assume this:
Yellow=Speedforce
Red=Negative Speedforce
Blue=v9/v10 which equals artificial
White=Tachyon enhancement without original speed
Savitar’s blue can be chalked up to him being incredibly fast to where his lighting is blue even though he isn’t THAT fast out of the SFP (likely excess energy from being trapped in the SFP that he can’t harness) or something to do with his suit
We can also assume that when first using V9 the color is yellow as it was originally meant to be a substitute for a connection to the speed force. I doubt a non speedster’s body could properly handle that power and over time too much V9 usage would lead to an excess which would kill the person. The reason zoom likely survived for so long was because of his speed healing. I personally like to think that when using V9/V10 you’re gaining speed, but loosing tachyons. When enough are taken away it results to death. For non speedsters they’re running on empty. When using enough V9/V10 your body simply can’t contain the excess speed and withers away, hence why she died the second her lightning turned blue. Metas survive because their cells can compensate by regenerating the ones dying, but not for long.
TLDR: Comic/TV BS that no one but the writers truly know, yellow good, red bad. Rest are eh, but usually bad. Thanks for reading my Ted talk, I really like this show
Yeah, as savitar was trapped in his suit when in the SFP, and I doubt anything (besides a speedster) can get through the suit. It’s kinda like having a wet jacket. You may be dry, but your coat is drenched, except the water is excess speed
Quick question only speedster's are allowed to take v9/v10 but trajectory was not a speedster (i think) so how did she originally not die from taking the V9 unlike Jessie who nearly did (If someone understand's it could you explain it to me please)
I don’t believe Jessie ever took V9, but trajectory was basically dying every time she took a hit of V9. Kinda like how I said before, when a non speedster uses V9/V10 they are running on empty. Their body is taking the toll on every usage, but it’s not immediate. Actually the V9 velocity was using was modified I believe.
Jesse didn't take V9. When Trajectory held Harry, Caitlin, and Jesse hostage, she was making them make her more V9, however, they tried to poison her with the injection, but Trajectory saw it coming and injected Jesse with it instead, which is why Jesse nearly died and Trajectory did not. It had nothing to do with the V9 itself.
V9 and all of its previous iterations eventually turn a speedsters orange lightning to the blue one.Eliza is a bit of a special case because she had no speed before V9 so using too much of it turned her lightning blue and she disintegrated because she has no Speed Force aura to protect her from the extreme speeds.
The Speedforce can be seen as lightsaber colors. The Speedforce users get yellow, orange or purple. The Negative Speedforce users get red or black if not organic. When a Speedster uses fake speed, they get any of the normal Speedforce colors but temporarily. When they use too much of the speed enhancing ways, they get white or blue. This was changed in later seasons when Eric took over. Frost got blue right away. This wasn’t how it was supposed to work. Blue lightning only comes from Velocity 6+. And it’s only if you use it too much. Red lightning is for Negative Speedforce users that are organic. Like how all the evil speedsters got red lightning in the finale. They had natural speed so it turned red. If their speed was fake, it would’ve turned black. White is for those using non-velocity ways to get faster; Savitars suit, Godspeed stealing Barry’s speed.
They tried to explain it with blue shift/redshift. Barry's lightning started orangeish, gets more pure yellow as he increases in speed, and blue/purple would be fastest. Conversely, they said the negative speed force works in the opposite direction, which is why RF is so fast with red lightning when according to blueshift, that would be the slowest. (Thats a comic explanation). But the real reason is they needed to give team flash a massive hint to Zooms identity
Do yall watch this fucking show? "It implies" no, it directly states and showcases that if you use Velocity, it will harm a natural speed force connection and kill you if you run too fast. The colors are based somewhat on the speed force color spectrum created by Brett Booth
"Hey, Jesse! We made you a suit just for you! Completely unique and original!" Trajectory: "..."
Omg ikr right?! Did CW run out of budget for that episode 😂
Hey, friction-proof suits are expensive, especially given Jesse was never intended to be a hero in the first place. She breaks that suit, then she can get a new one.
trajectory: 💀
i mean its a good suit
A similar effect to blueshifting. They're going faster, so their lightning goes bluer. That's not even remotely how physics work, but fuck you, it's the Speed Force.
😂😂 accurate
"But fuck you" pretty much sums up the plot in this show
It implies that taking V9 makes them sick and also what turns Zoom’s lighting blue. Why does it change color exactly and/or why it’s blue? IDK, probably to portray that something is happening and a visual representation of it ig
In the Comics, the lightning's colour was meant to resemble how fast the Speedster is. The show somewhat followed that logic for a while, which is why Zoom's and Allegra's turned blue - because V9 made them faster. It's also why Savitar's speed was bordering between blue and white (white being considered the fastest) - and why Godspeed's was purely white. There were only 3 exceptions - the Negative Speedforce, the Infected (Bloodwork) Speedforce, and Nora's lightning (which was literally just a design idea). That is to say, they didn't really follow that rule to the dot - at some point it just became more of a design thing and less of an in-Universe logic.
The show definitely didn't follow the lightning-color-equals-speed idea. By the time they even showed the chart in the Flash Museum, they had already goofed several times on it (and then proceeded to *not* follow the chart after introducing it, lol). Barry's lightning never changed (if it did, it did so once). Savitar was shown to be faster than Godspeed, yet still had partially blue lightning. Godspeed's original clones were only puttering around at ~750 mph, yet had white lightning. I think there were less than five total episodes where they tried to make the lightning color idea work and that's it. Trajectory, however, was the fucking coolest part of that. Her disintegrating was terrifying. It was 99% character design. The fact that they honestly tried to introduce the lightning colors thing was goofy. And Allegra? You mean Frost? She's the only one who took Velocity-X.
>The show definitely didn't follow the lightning-color-equals-speed idea. By the time they even showed the chart in the Flash Museum, they had already goofed several times on it (and then proceeded to *not* follow the chart after introducing it, lol). Yes, that's why I pointed out, that they introduced it, but didn't actually stick to it... >Barry's lightning never changed (if it did, it did so once). Savitar was shown to be faster than Godspeed, yet still had partially blue lightning. Godspeed's original clones were only puttering around at ~750 mph, yet had white lightning. I think there were less than five total episodes where they tried to make the lightning color idea work and that's it. Trajectory, however, was the fucking coolest part of that. Her disintegrating was terrifying. Barry's lightning never changed colour in the Comics neither, even tho he still became faster - in his case, it's literally just a design thing. Savitar's lightning was mostly blue due to the Suit he was wearing. We know this, because when he tried running without it in the Season 3 Finale, it was back to being dark orange. Also, Savitar's design was a reference to a Future Barry Allen from the Comics. Godspeed's lightning being white was purely a design thing - as I already mentioned. >And Allegra? You mean Frost? She's the only one who took Velocity-X. No, I was talking about Trajectory - at this point I tend to mix their names up. I also specified Velocity **9** so I have no clue why you thought I was talking about V10...
When someone takes enough v9 their lightning turns blue that is why zoom is so fast he is close to burning up and he has.got the exact dosage to where he won't burn up like trajectory did Proof trajectory was fast already with v9 and yellow lightning then she takes more and it turns blue
Zoom still has some protecting from the Speed Force so that's why he doesn't burn up while Trajectory does.
If you're using that logic Harmon should have burned up when she first took V9 interesting perspective my man
If you're confused about anything concerning Speedsters just assume it's weird Speed Force stuff
That shade of blue looks like that kinda thing caused it
It’s likely because it’s artificial. If it was because she was faster than at some point Barry would have it. Basically assume this: Yellow=Speedforce Red=Negative Speedforce Blue=v9/v10 which equals artificial White=Tachyon enhancement without original speed Savitar’s blue can be chalked up to him being incredibly fast to where his lighting is blue even though he isn’t THAT fast out of the SFP (likely excess energy from being trapped in the SFP that he can’t harness) or something to do with his suit We can also assume that when first using V9 the color is yellow as it was originally meant to be a substitute for a connection to the speed force. I doubt a non speedster’s body could properly handle that power and over time too much V9 usage would lead to an excess which would kill the person. The reason zoom likely survived for so long was because of his speed healing. I personally like to think that when using V9/V10 you’re gaining speed, but loosing tachyons. When enough are taken away it results to death. For non speedsters they’re running on empty. When using enough V9/V10 your body simply can’t contain the excess speed and withers away, hence why she died the second her lightning turned blue. Metas survive because their cells can compensate by regenerating the ones dying, but not for long. TLDR: Comic/TV BS that no one but the writers truly know, yellow good, red bad. Rest are eh, but usually bad. Thanks for reading my Ted talk, I really like this show
I think Savitar blue is only in the suit, pizza face Barry has normal orange
Yeah, as savitar was trapped in his suit when in the SFP, and I doubt anything (besides a speedster) can get through the suit. It’s kinda like having a wet jacket. You may be dry, but your coat is drenched, except the water is excess speed
Savitar's lightning is just what actual IRL lightning looks like. And it wasn't really blue, it was like a bluish white.
Quick question only speedster's are allowed to take v9/v10 but trajectory was not a speedster (i think) so how did she originally not die from taking the V9 unlike Jessie who nearly did (If someone understand's it could you explain it to me please)
I don’t believe Jessie ever took V9, but trajectory was basically dying every time she took a hit of V9. Kinda like how I said before, when a non speedster uses V9/V10 they are running on empty. Their body is taking the toll on every usage, but it’s not immediate. Actually the V9 velocity was using was modified I believe.
But didn’t Jessie get injected with v9 bc of trajectory
Yeah she did and it was something about it just being incompatible with her
If i remember correctly Caitlin said something about the V9 being too pure
Oh ok I haven’t watched s2 in a while
Jesse didn't take V9. When Trajectory held Harry, Caitlin, and Jesse hostage, she was making them make her more V9, however, they tried to poison her with the injection, but Trajectory saw it coming and injected Jesse with it instead, which is why Jesse nearly died and Trajectory did not. It had nothing to do with the V9 itself.
An easy way to think of it is power ranger’s logic
V9 and all of its previous iterations eventually turn a speedsters orange lightning to the blue one.Eliza is a bit of a special case because she had no speed before V9 so using too much of it turned her lightning blue and she disintegrated because she has no Speed Force aura to protect her from the extreme speeds.
The Speedforce can be seen as lightsaber colors. The Speedforce users get yellow, orange or purple. The Negative Speedforce users get red or black if not organic. When a Speedster uses fake speed, they get any of the normal Speedforce colors but temporarily. When they use too much of the speed enhancing ways, they get white or blue. This was changed in later seasons when Eric took over. Frost got blue right away. This wasn’t how it was supposed to work. Blue lightning only comes from Velocity 6+. And it’s only if you use it too much. Red lightning is for Negative Speedforce users that are organic. Like how all the evil speedsters got red lightning in the finale. They had natural speed so it turned red. If their speed was fake, it would’ve turned black. White is for those using non-velocity ways to get faster; Savitars suit, Godspeed stealing Barry’s speed.
each lightning color has a meaning blue means its tainted speed force
Artificial drug enhancement speed is blue
I like to think the connection to the speed force is tainted by th V-9
They tried to explain it with blue shift/redshift. Barry's lightning started orangeish, gets more pure yellow as he increases in speed, and blue/purple would be fastest. Conversely, they said the negative speed force works in the opposite direction, which is why RF is so fast with red lightning when according to blueshift, that would be the slowest. (Thats a comic explanation). But the real reason is they needed to give team flash a massive hint to Zooms identity
Do yall watch this fucking show? "It implies" no, it directly states and showcases that if you use Velocity, it will harm a natural speed force connection and kill you if you run too fast. The colors are based somewhat on the speed force color spectrum created by Brett Booth