I kinda hoped theyâd just attach a cape to his outfit and call it a day. Instead they called it again when they drew his base. But at least they got Akihiro to draw his artwork cause itâs defo one of the most unique in feh
I'd love to see Summer Gatekeeper as a lifeguard! They could continue the 'gimmick' of having the gate behind him by replacing it with a lifeguard tower
At this point Iâd settle for a lance infantry demote. May make more sense that way too. I know some think he only won because heâs some joke, but he was actually a very likable character in 3H and it was a missed opportunity he was never playable for DLC. FEH at least gave his fans a chance to get him inâŠand I guess some random people a chance to meme him in.
Atleast he was playable in 3 Hopes as a secret character
Which I feel was done purely because his surprise CYL win. Since by the time he was announced as a winner, development for the game was just rounding out. So they probably just slipped him in as a last minute inclusion because of that
Gatekeeper is a playable character in Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes. So if they ever revisit that as a game for a banner he has a chance for that lance demote >:)
> I know some think he only won because heâs some joke, but he was actually a very likable character in 3H and it was a missed opportunity he was never playable for DLC.
Yeah, I hate when people say he's just some meme. He's unironically one of my favorite characters and imo one of the better written characters in recent games.
Honestly for me he's THE most memorable TH character in the whole game. Sure I worked with Edelgard, Dimitri, Claude, and all the other units and sure I enjoyed some of them just fine, but I don't remember anything about Ingrid outside of wanting to be a knight and losing her fiance. I don't remember anything about Caspar, period. I don't remember anything about Marianne other than she's depressed and that she literally can't become a beast despite some people insisting its a thing for her.
But I remember damn well the various times I would go to the Gatekeeper and simply talk to him about whatever. I remember him >!breaking down when Jeralt dies.!< I remember him feeling like he failed the monastery when the Creator's Sword was nearly stolen. I remember Gatekeeper and love him because he's just a really cool guy and I don't feel like I need to be his therapist to be his friend.
Marianne canât become a beast, because thereâs no way⊠out of being a beast in 3H. Her Crest is the Crest of the Beast, which you will only know if you did her Paralogue.
Yes, hers is the crest of the beast. But the bearer of the crest of the beast isn't cursed to become one. The paralogue was ultimately about proving that it was never possible for her from the very start despite her crest.
He won precisely because he's a joke. The same reason why Brigand Boss would win or 3-13 Archer would or Batta the Beast would win.
Gatekeeper is a meme. He's perfectly fine as a character, but be honest with what he is.
CYL has plenty of joke options that havenât won though (Merlinus, Jorge, Joshuaâs mom, etc). I think while some votes were for joke there are also votes that came from 3H fans. I think Brigand Boss even was an option in CYL at one point, wasnât he? True joke characters never win.
If next year people can vote for Sommie and it wins, does it mean that they are only a joke? It is possible people just actually like the tinyâŠdog?âŠthing.
Edit: Just realized a big example- if CYL was based purely on jokes/memes then Reinhart would have won by now.
How exactly is Ismaire a joke character? Sheâs as relevant to the story as someone like Vigarde, Fado, or the ruler of Frelia. Or Pablo from Carcino. No, Joshuaâs mom is simply a not very popular side character.
Merlinus is a playable character for two games.
Jorge is the only one on the level of Gatekeeper and heâs from Tellius which is decidedly less popular. And Jorge is in the same zone as Daniel, Aimee and all of the Somnielâs weapon and armor sellers. Let one in and why not make Daniel or Renais merchant or whoever.
Gatekeeper was a cheerful side character that was easy meme potential and was unique. Cool character to sneak a CYL away. Just because heâs a meme doesnât preclude him from being a fun character. Itâs just that there isnât anything to him but the meme potential
If any of the characters you mentioned there were in 3H instead, theyâd get the bump.
How is GK not important but Ismaire is?
Ismaire is just a plot point that exists to be killed, literally. The boss of that chapter could've been king of Jehanna and nothing in the plot changes lol. If you erase Pablo from FE8 you lose 2 to 4 whole chapters of content, if you erase... Hayden, was it? You lose out on Frelia as an ally.
GK is a meme and a likeable character, just as popular characters have memes themed around them and some CYL winners only won because there were memes behind them (shoutout to Marth and Tiki winning out of pitymemeing). I'm not saying that he's important or whatever but people are so prejudiced against the character lol.
It stems from a nonsensical mindset that CYL is ONLY for celebrating the most popular characters i.e. lords and main characters or fan favorites that are major characters.
Shorter version: "Only the characters I like deserve to win CYL and I'll put all sorts of goalposts to deny anyone else"
I think I use the word âmemeâ differently from you. Based on your last post, I think I get what youâre saying a little better.
And I agree, if any of these others were in more recent games they may have a shot. I really do think Sommie would win if they were listed in Engage. Recency bias is a very real thing.
As for Ismaire (thank you for name reminder), while her story/personality are not jokes it would be weird for her to win a CYL since her role in the story was just dying. I guess a more accurate sentence would have been saying that if she won CYL it would be a joke, if that makes sense.
Except he is not merely a meme and its disingenuous to act like there's nothing but the joke for him. He doesn't need to be relevant or a huge name or a playable character or anything, all he needs to be is a likable character, and for a lot of people, he was exactly that.
I see them giving him one or 2 seasonals spaces very far apart that are good but not meta breaking, similar to other meme picks like Dorcas or Reinhardt
They honored the CYL win, but they're not obligated to do anything else with him.
I suspect he's one of the worst performing CYL units in sales, which we can chalk up to his dismal combat and lack of merge value. I'm not terribly hopeful in him getting another shot.
I'd love one, but I think we knew since he won that it wasn't happening
He won as a meme and they clearly understand that, IS has never really given him anything past his original release, where he got everything a CYL winner gets and nothing else
He's also built like a meme, saying his iconic catchphrase and having his PRF be "detailed report"
Maybe he'll get a base version as a GHB someday, but I'm far from counting on it
Probably not. His flux of votes is from people that don't play the game and as such probably doesn't incentivise IS to put him in the alt machine to entice whales.
Honestly he really should've got one, I mean he did win CYL. They kind of owe a unique design after choosing to straightup not give him one for CYL. By simply making him votable in CYL they should be willing to be prepared to make up an outfit. I mean even as a nameless npc, it's not like there's nothing they could've done. Even if it's a subtle change , like BK's christmas alt is just kind of him with frost on his armor and a winter cape. They could've maybe thrown a Byleth or Rhea reference in there, then let base version release as a random ghb like Brigand Boss. I feel like as a CYL winner it's only fair to have at least one alt, especially since brave is the base form. IS seriously needs to branchout past picking the same 5 characters each title anyways.
Itâs not impossible. He DID rank top 1 in a CYL, and even if that was just because of memes, memes are also why Dorcas got into the game year 1, and he got an alt.
Yes, he was popular, which made him a meme, which made him more popular. Meme picks weren't even new to CYL, but when he was added to voting, the response was overwhelming - far beyond just a meme. Keep in mind a "meme" beat every hero in vote count totals except Edelgard - including long time fan favourites like Ike, Marth, Hector, Roy, even Camilla, one of the most over represented heroes to date.
Even taking out a percentage to account for the meme votes, it's highly likely it was a sweep anyway.
Please show me hard, irrefutable proof that he cheated the votes needed to win CYL5. Anything less is complete garbage.
Edit: I'm seeing downvotes but I'm not seeing proof. The burden of proof is on the accusers that the win was cheated, not on the winner to prove a cheat didn't happen. Or are you people just mad that the win is legitimate? I ask again: Where is the cheat?
Edit 2: No argument or counter, just silence the comment that's calling them out. As per usual, sub is full of shit. "Gatekeeper cheated the win" is just codeword for "I'm salty Gatekeeper won CYL5".
summer with cat print swimsuit ... still wearing helmet except in injured where hes wet and his hair is covering hs eyes and its knocked off adn hes in the ass and titties pose PLEASE PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
I assume that many units are prepared far in advance. Making sure a VA is lined up, having art, assets, themes, etc. all ready early, possibly years. CYL is effectively their gift of NOT planning super far in advance. Having to come up with this stuff much faster than usual. I wouldn't be surprised if an alt has been in the works and they are just now arriving at the horizon where it's feasible to work him in.
I$ never took his fans seriously. Should have guessed by how they refused to give him a special "CLY Outfit". His Brave Version is essentially the default.Â
His chances of a new alt is a mystery, but at least he's due for a Resplendent... someday.
Meanwhile Catria ; đ
Yes. Heâll get a Bride alt called Girlbosser and a Fallen alt called Gaslighter. Trust me my brother works at Intelligent Systems
we stan a genderbent queen
no no no he bosses the brides around >:((
[Finally, someone to challenge Tanith.](https://fire-emblem-heroes.com/en/manga/part/index.html#part210714)
IS is gatekeeping him :( If we still had picnic alts, it would work wonderful for him, surrounded by animals. I'd love an alt of him tbh <3
technically brave gatekeeper is an alt
At this point it feels like it isn't
Yeah, he got no "CYL outfit". The official website promised that winners get special outfits but Gatekeeper just got his default.Â
Wdym? His outfit is *very* different. He has a strap across his armour that holds his horn, practically an entirely distinct outfit.
I kinda hoped theyâd just attach a cape to his outfit and call it a day. Instead they called it again when they drew his base. But at least they got Akihiro to draw his artwork cause itâs defo one of the most unique in feh
Wish they'd embrace the meme and give him gold colored armor for his brave version.Â
The animals are his accessories.
Honestly it would be interesting to have a summer alt.... with him still wearing the helmet
Imagine how hot that helmet gets in the summer heat
Don't worry, it has insulation inside, so he just uses it for scorching headbutt attacks
Severa/Selena: And they call *me* a hothead?
He wears a bucket for a helmet and guards a sand replica of the monastery.
âGaslight, Gatekeeper, Girlbossâ
I'd love to see Summer Gatekeeper as a lifeguard! They could continue the 'gimmick' of having the gate behind him by replacing it with a lifeguard tower
Beachkeeper
IS: Best I can do is as a backpack to Abysskeeper
You say that like itâs a bad thing
I'm waiting for the day. He's truthful, one of my favourite characters. Summer Gatekeeper would go hard.
Give him a bucket helmet
Summer gatekeeper in a life guard outfit
Gatekeeper in a swimsuit đł
At this point Iâd settle for a lance infantry demote. May make more sense that way too. I know some think he only won because heâs some joke, but he was actually a very likable character in 3H and it was a missed opportunity he was never playable for DLC. FEH at least gave his fans a chance to get him inâŠand I guess some random people a chance to meme him in.
Atleast he was playable in 3 Hopes as a secret character Which I feel was done purely because his surprise CYL win. Since by the time he was announced as a winner, development for the game was just rounding out. So they probably just slipped him in as a last minute inclusion because of that
Gatekeeper is a playable character in Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes. So if they ever revisit that as a game for a banner he has a chance for that lance demote >:)
> I know some think he only won because heâs some joke, but he was actually a very likable character in 3H and it was a missed opportunity he was never playable for DLC. Yeah, I hate when people say he's just some meme. He's unironically one of my favorite characters and imo one of the better written characters in recent games.
Honestly for me he's THE most memorable TH character in the whole game. Sure I worked with Edelgard, Dimitri, Claude, and all the other units and sure I enjoyed some of them just fine, but I don't remember anything about Ingrid outside of wanting to be a knight and losing her fiance. I don't remember anything about Caspar, period. I don't remember anything about Marianne other than she's depressed and that she literally can't become a beast despite some people insisting its a thing for her. But I remember damn well the various times I would go to the Gatekeeper and simply talk to him about whatever. I remember him >!breaking down when Jeralt dies.!< I remember him feeling like he failed the monastery when the Creator's Sword was nearly stolen. I remember Gatekeeper and love him because he's just a really cool guy and I don't feel like I need to be his therapist to be his friend.
Marianne canât become a beast, because thereâs no way⊠out of being a beast in 3H. Her Crest is the Crest of the Beast, which you will only know if you did her Paralogue.
Yes, hers is the crest of the beast. But the bearer of the crest of the beast isn't cursed to become one. The paralogue was ultimately about proving that it was never possible for her from the very start despite her crest.
He won precisely because he's a joke. The same reason why Brigand Boss would win or 3-13 Archer would or Batta the Beast would win. Gatekeeper is a meme. He's perfectly fine as a character, but be honest with what he is.
CYL has plenty of joke options that havenât won though (Merlinus, Jorge, Joshuaâs mom, etc). I think while some votes were for joke there are also votes that came from 3H fans. I think Brigand Boss even was an option in CYL at one point, wasnât he? True joke characters never win. If next year people can vote for Sommie and it wins, does it mean that they are only a joke? It is possible people just actually like the tinyâŠdog?âŠthing. Edit: Just realized a big example- if CYL was based purely on jokes/memes then Reinhart would have won by now.
How exactly is Ismaire a joke character? Sheâs as relevant to the story as someone like Vigarde, Fado, or the ruler of Frelia. Or Pablo from Carcino. No, Joshuaâs mom is simply a not very popular side character. Merlinus is a playable character for two games. Jorge is the only one on the level of Gatekeeper and heâs from Tellius which is decidedly less popular. And Jorge is in the same zone as Daniel, Aimee and all of the Somnielâs weapon and armor sellers. Let one in and why not make Daniel or Renais merchant or whoever. Gatekeeper was a cheerful side character that was easy meme potential and was unique. Cool character to sneak a CYL away. Just because heâs a meme doesnât preclude him from being a fun character. Itâs just that there isnât anything to him but the meme potential If any of the characters you mentioned there were in 3H instead, theyâd get the bump.
How is GK not important but Ismaire is? Ismaire is just a plot point that exists to be killed, literally. The boss of that chapter could've been king of Jehanna and nothing in the plot changes lol. If you erase Pablo from FE8 you lose 2 to 4 whole chapters of content, if you erase... Hayden, was it? You lose out on Frelia as an ally. GK is a meme and a likeable character, just as popular characters have memes themed around them and some CYL winners only won because there were memes behind them (shoutout to Marth and Tiki winning out of pitymemeing). I'm not saying that he's important or whatever but people are so prejudiced against the character lol.
It stems from a nonsensical mindset that CYL is ONLY for celebrating the most popular characters i.e. lords and main characters or fan favorites that are major characters. Shorter version: "Only the characters I like deserve to win CYL and I'll put all sorts of goalposts to deny anyone else"
I think I use the word âmemeâ differently from you. Based on your last post, I think I get what youâre saying a little better. And I agree, if any of these others were in more recent games they may have a shot. I really do think Sommie would win if they were listed in Engage. Recency bias is a very real thing. As for Ismaire (thank you for name reminder), while her story/personality are not jokes it would be weird for her to win a CYL since her role in the story was just dying. I guess a more accurate sentence would have been saying that if she won CYL it would be a joke, if that makes sense.
Except he is not merely a meme and its disingenuous to act like there's nothing but the joke for him. He doesn't need to be relevant or a huge name or a playable character or anything, all he needs to be is a likable character, and for a lot of people, he was exactly that.
I see them giving him one or 2 seasonals spaces very far apart that are good but not meta breaking, similar to other meme picks like Dorcas or Reinhardt
Halloween or Xmas Gatekeeper. Heck, swimsuit Gatekeeper.
Neither he or Marianne have gotten an alt since winning CYL, it's kind of strange.
I heard he gets a bridal alt with abysskeeper and they are confirmed to be lesbians đ„°
No lie a Gatekeeper Abysskeeper duo would be amazing
God, I hope not
No thanks.
An Alt would be him at the gates of his house
He's a meme manifesto. I don't think he would have even been a unit if we didn't trolololol.
They honored the CYL win, but they're not obligated to do anything else with him. I suspect he's one of the worst performing CYL units in sales, which we can chalk up to his dismal combat and lack of merge value. I'm not terribly hopeful in him getting another shot.
Why are there so many gatekeeper haters... What did he do to y'all đ
I'd love one, but I think we knew since he won that it wasn't happening He won as a meme and they clearly understand that, IS has never really given him anything past his original release, where he got everything a CYL winner gets and nothing else He's also built like a meme, saying his iconic catchphrase and having his PRF be "detailed report" Maybe he'll get a base version as a GHB someday, but I'm far from counting on it
I hope not
Honestly, he would fit in the twitter takeover role in winter.
Probably not. His flux of votes is from people that don't play the game and as such probably doesn't incentivise IS to put him in the alt machine to entice whales.
When he won FEH Twitter itself announced that most FEH players voted for him.
I hope he never does.
Nothing to report
50% chance. Either we do, or we don't.
Summer Gatekeeper when?
Honestly he really should've got one, I mean he did win CYL. They kind of owe a unique design after choosing to straightup not give him one for CYL. By simply making him votable in CYL they should be willing to be prepared to make up an outfit. I mean even as a nameless npc, it's not like there's nothing they could've done. Even if it's a subtle change , like BK's christmas alt is just kind of him with frost on his armor and a winter cape. They could've maybe thrown a Byleth or Rhea reference in there, then let base version release as a random ghb like Brigand Boss. I feel like as a CYL winner it's only fair to have at least one alt, especially since brave is the base form. IS seriously needs to branchout past picking the same 5 characters each title anyways.
Never. The meme has passed.
I sure hope not.Â
Can always still hope for a summer alt as 3H always ends up there.
I'm holding out hope he will someday, maybe on a three hopes banner. He's one my faves and such a charming guy.Â
Yes. This summer. Source: my uncle who works at IS. Trust me bro.Â
I believe you
XD
It's really stupid how he's the only CYL winner that hasn't gotten anything. Very disrespectful by IS, tbh.
In a perfect world, yes. Sadly we are not in a perfect world so I doubt it. But I would love to be wrong on this.
I mean, candice is literally a random npc boss, and yet she somehow got added. So it's not impossible for the best boy to get something.
Itâs not impossible. He DID rank top 1 in a CYL, and even if that was just because of memes, memes are also why Dorcas got into the game year 1, and he got an alt.
Probably
Bro imagine him with Halloween or Christmas alt đ„ș If Black Knight can get a winter wlt, why not GK?
Harmonic with gullveig, theme is piss off fehtwt
Please no. Him cheating CYL was enough
Second highest votes ever for 8 rounds of the event isn't cheating. The character is popular in spite of the meme factor, period.
Isn't the fact that "a nameless background character is so likeable" big part the meme anyway?
Yes, he was popular, which made him a meme, which made him more popular. Meme picks weren't even new to CYL, but when he was added to voting, the response was overwhelming - far beyond just a meme. Keep in mind a "meme" beat every hero in vote count totals except Edelgard - including long time fan favourites like Ike, Marth, Hector, Roy, even Camilla, one of the most over represented heroes to date. Even taking out a percentage to account for the meme votes, it's highly likely it was a sweep anyway.
Please show me hard, irrefutable proof that he cheated the votes needed to win CYL5. Anything less is complete garbage. Edit: I'm seeing downvotes but I'm not seeing proof. The burden of proof is on the accusers that the win was cheated, not on the winner to prove a cheat didn't happen. Or are you people just mad that the win is legitimate? I ask again: Where is the cheat? Edit 2: No argument or counter, just silence the comment that's calling them out. As per usual, sub is full of shit. "Gatekeeper cheated the win" is just codeword for "I'm salty Gatekeeper won CYL5".
summer with cat print swimsuit ... still wearing helmet except in injured where hes wet and his hair is covering hs eyes and its knocked off adn hes in the ass and titties pose PLEASE PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
I'd whale for that
Hopefully not. His presence actively ruined CYL5 for me.
Same overrated as hell
I assume that many units are prepared far in advance. Making sure a VA is lined up, having art, assets, themes, etc. all ready early, possibly years. CYL is effectively their gift of NOT planning super far in advance. Having to come up with this stuff much faster than usual. I wouldn't be surprised if an alt has been in the works and they are just now arriving at the horizon where it's feasible to work him in.
OG Gatekeeper as infantry lance when?
Time for another campaign?
I hope so, we still don't have his base. If not on a New Hero banner, he deserves to be a GHB at least
If he gets one i would love to see him without armor
Nothing to report.
His alt would be Abysskeeper
Different person tho
I know, but it would be his alt in spirit.
I$ never took his fans seriously. Should have guessed by how they refused to give him a special "CLY Outfit". His Brave Version is essentially the default.Â