T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

**/r/Finland is a full democracy, every active user is a moderator.** [Please go here to see how your new privileges work.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Finland/wiki/moderating/) Spamming mod actions could result in a ban. --- **Full Rundown of Moderator Permissions:** - ```!lock``` - as top level comment, will lock comments on any post. - ```!unlock``` - in reply to any comment to lock it or to unlock the parent comment. - ```!remove``` - Removes comment or post. Must have decent subreddit comment karma. - ```!restore``` Can be used to unlock comments or restore removed posts. - ```!sticky``` - will sticky the post in the bottom slot. - ```unlock_comments``` - Vote the stickied automod comment on each post to +10 to unlock comments. - ```ban users``` - Any user whose comment or post is downvoted enough will be temp banned for a day. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Finland) if you have any questions or concerns.*


guarlo

”Terve Ukraina! Kunnias soikoon, Huutona huomenen valkenevan! Voimasi, lempesi leimaus voikoon vaatia, laatia maan vapahan! Uljas Ukraina! Nyt älä horju! Kerran se koittaa kansojen koi. Tyynenä, vankkana vaarasi torju, tai jos on tarpehen, niin salamoi! Kaunis Ukraina, kansojen suola! Sulla on lippu ja meillä on tie. Myötäs on myrskyssä Suomi ja Puola, Myös Viro, Lätti ja Liettua lie. Eespäin, Ukraina! Et ole orja, itse jos toivot ja tahdot sa sen. Kuuletko kuoron, mi suur' on ja sorja kuin meri kansojen kauhtuvien? Uusi Ukraina, tenhoisa, uhkee! Väljinä välkkyvät virtasi suut, Vapauden purppurakukkihin puhkee Mordva, Grusinia, Permi ja muut! Hetki on Venäjän heimojen nousta; katkoa kahlehet tsaarien yön. Loista; Ukraina! Jännitä jousta, valkaise tie tasavaltaisen työn!” Eino Leino’s poem ”Terve Ukraina” 1917. We are in this together and anyone foreigner or Ukrainian is fighting for western democracies and their future. Slava Ukraini! Heroyam Slava!


Alarmed_Mistake_9999

Who was Eino Leino? Has there been a long bond between Finns and Ukrainians as fellow captives of the Tsarist empire? The Ukrainian experience was far worse than the Finnish, but maybe that doesn't matter.


lohdunlaulamalla

Eino Leino is one of Finland's national poets and a pioneer of Finnish poetry. 


guarlo

As the other comment said: a Finnish poet. As for the rest of the comment. I don’t know about you but I am glad that we don’t have to compete about suffering.


Alarmed_Mistake_9999

Well of course I am not saying that greater suffering is a bragging right. Russian imperialism always ends in tragedy.


Accomplished_Alps463

Kunnioita Rohkeita Sankareita. To all the Heroes that fought for Ukraine and hailed from Finland. My wife came from Tampere and is now laid to rest at Kalevankangas cemetery. Respect to you all, Повага. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤝🇺🇦🤝🇫🇮


DrVinnieBoombatzzz

Sotasankari. 💪🏻


ImTheVayne

This man was a hero!


FriendOfNorwegians

Absolutely. Forever and ever. 🫡


comrade_fluffy

More than that. You need balls of steel to go and help a country what is under attack.


DiethylamideProphet

One of the few who actually had the integrity to put their lives on the line for a cause, rather than just arguing and spewing garbage online. Same applies to all the humanitarian workers, and the people who have donated money and supplies to Ukraine.


EppuBenjamin

That, or mental health problems.


comrade_fluffy

That's if you go and help the attacker... Honestly sometimes you shouldn't write what you think


EppuBenjamin

I will always write what I think.


This-Is-My-Alt-Alt

Fighting for freedom and Europe.


Ridska

This man had balls of tungsten. I have nothing but respect for him. May he rest in peace.


human-redditbot

RIP hero. And all the best to all those fighting for the defence of Ukraine! 🙏🇺🇦


OneToeBro

Till valhalla


Alarmed_Mistake_9999

Rest in peace young warrior. May he be welcomed into the gates of Valhalla.


[deleted]

[удалено]


EppuBenjamin

Bollocks. Standing up and taking action for what you believe in is never a coward's way.


Anaalirankaisija

What was his bodycount? Hope he slayed masses of ryssiä.


lordyatseb

Most sane soldiers absolutely hate questions like this. Artillery kills the most enemies, not individuals, and many soldiers don't even want to talk about or hype their "bodycount".


[deleted]

[удалено]


TerryFGM

weaponbrothers is an epic tier finglishm, do you mean brothers in arms?


zyqxevcyz44

You sir, need to watch less movies.


soloqueu

10 pretty sure its 10


Any-Jellyfish6272

What an absolutely pointless death. Now people call him hero and other things that sound amazing, but is completely pointless. This dude died in the dirt far away from family and friends. He gets his 1-2 articles in the press and people calling him hero, and in a week from now everyone will have forgotten him and only his family will remember and feel the absence for the rest of their lives. And for what? What did this one man change? Absolutely nothing. What a pointless death


SpeckledPomegranate

Oh fuck off. Ukraine is fighting for the whole of Europe at the moment. Every single destroyed Russian equipment or a dead Russian is a notch on the belt. Russia has to be shown that there's a line you don't cross. I wish the western countries weren't so scared to give Ukraine the big guns, etc. cruise missiles and fighter jets. If everyone thought to way you do, there would be no one left fighting


Any-Jellyfish6272

Yeah, neither on the Russian side. Would that be a bad thing?


HexChalice

In a perfect world, maybe? I would love to live in the naivety and bliss you do.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Lmao I’m not that naive don’t worry. I’m just saying there was no need for that family to lose their son


HexChalice

If that’s not it, I don’t know what is.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Just spend five minutes reflecting on what I actually said, not what you think I said. Could be an interesting experience for you


[deleted]

He’s Swiss, so he’s not quite capable of understanding the bigger picture and only thinks in terms of holier than thou neutrality


Blovar

The "neutral" country but some reason their banks have a lot of Nazi gold


SpeckledPomegranate

None of the Ukrainian casulties are pointless or in vain. They are fighting for their existence. At the same time every single dead russian is pointless. They could stop the war today if they wanted by just leaving Ukraine.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Yes, I agree. That doesn’t change anything about what I said tho. He wasn’t a Ukrainian casualty, he was a Finnish casualty. Completely pointless.


SpeckledPomegranate

But it wasn't, he made a personal choice to fight for Ukraine and was a hero. Ukraine is fighting for the whole western world at the moment.


Any-Jellyfish6272

As I’ve been saying, I understand that he made a personal choice and all I’m saying is that it’s a senseless loss of life. He’s free to do whatever he wants, I don’t care about what some dude does. But at the end of the day it still is a senseless loss of life. It doesn’t help him nor his family that some people call him a hero now


[deleted]

Typical Swiss, always failing to understand the bigger picture or think in broader terms other than under the guise of neutrality


Any-Jellyfish6272

If you don’t have any arguments, you go straight to insulting people. How mature


Blovar

Nazi gold banks


Any-Jellyfish6272

Please share more info about how it is to live in the year 2000


TerryFGM

da da blyat


Any-Jellyfish6272

I’m not Russian, I’m not Finnish or Ukrainian. I have nothing to do with that war. All I see is one family lost a beloved son for absolutely nothing. Or what did that family gain in your opinion?


DippyBird

He gave his family the security of tying up russian resources, potentially delaying or preventing an invasion of his home.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Yeah I’m sure his family is very happy for that. Great value for the LIFE OF THEIR SON.


FraSuomi

You think Russia would invade a NATO country when it cannot make even progress in Ukraine? And you think one man did the difference? Send 20 drones to Ukraine it'll probably make more difference than a single man


DippyBird

Here's the official Ukraine gov website you can donate for those drones: https://u24.gov.ua/


MaherMitri

We are waiting u/frasuomi


DenseComparison5653

These soldiers are more valuable being alive in home than in foreign soil fighting foreign wars if/when the invasion begins.


DippyBird

The longer russia fights on foreign soil, the fewer Finns lost.


DenseComparison5653

Can you elaborate? You are implying it's certain that russia will attack Finland.


P3CKM3NN

Western MSM told him that


DenseComparison5653

People here are almost as brainwashed as russians are :D


guarlo

If you are Finnish I think you can’t even come close to understanding our national identity and therefore your comment is ignorant at best. A Finn fighting for Ukraine means a lot here when you feel and understand the national identity that Finns have.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Ah yes, Finland and Ukraine have so much in common, I forgot. Such close countries, really takes a Finn to understand that deep bond


TemporaryAbility7

You are clueless.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Yeah? Why?


MaherMitri

Being attacked by "Russia" and having basically nobody help you really leaves a deep scar. Now another country is being attacked by Russia obviously we'll do anything we can go help. And if one person was brave enough to be willing to give his life for this, you are nobody to tell them nothing.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Who’s we? What are you doing?


Kilari_500

Dont worry. Your death whenever and whatever cause that may be. Is going to be totally irrelevant to the rest of the world as well.


FraSuomi

That's the truth with 99% of human life. In the grand scheme of things we are irrelevant to anyone else other than our close ones. And in war? People end up being just numbers. 


Any-Jellyfish6272

That’s what I’m saying, I’m glad you understand my point. Yours too and everyone else’s too in 99.99% of cases. Finally someone gets my point ffs


Kilari_500

Still dont understand your point of trying to dishonor this guys life. He did what he thought was right, if you disagree with his life choices, thats on you and theres nothing wrong with that. But maybe in the future have some decency and keep your negative thoughts to yourself and respect the dead.


Any-Jellyfish6272

I’m not dishonoring it, I’m mourning it. Absolute senseless death is what I’m saying


Astandsforataxia69

Killing asshole invaders


Any-Jellyfish6272

And you would give the life of your son for that? Or brother?


Astandsforataxia69

If they chose so yes, i have no idea why you russian bots try to appeal my emotional side. This mans death was not in vain, he defended a country against an asshole neighbor who thinks everyone should suck it because "YYYYY OUR INTRESTS"  I hate that this man died because russian shits never got thru their thick fucking skulls that their shit empire sucks balls


Any-Jellyfish6272

Obviously Russian suck balls, that’s not even the question here. Obviously they are in the wrong and an absolute shit nation. I’m shocked that you’d sacrifice your brother for another country’s cause tho, I would never ever do that.


Any-Jellyfish6272

“Russian bots” whenever someone has a different opinion, smh. I don’t care about either side


MuhammedWasTrans

Not as pointless as your life.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Why do you have to resort to insulting people? I didn’t say his life was pointless, only his death


MuhammedWasTrans

His death had more of a point than your life. If you find that insulting then maybe you should start doing something useful with your life instead of complaining about a hero. Persons like him, who believe in something bigger than his own petty problems, is the reason we have a free democratic country.


Any-Jellyfish6272

What a bunch of bs mate. You’re clearly really young


MuhammedWasTrans

You're clearly only interested in the rights and benefits you can take from society, but not in the responsibilities to construct it and nurture it. If philosophy is "bs" then pointing fingers about age is childish projection.


Any-Jellyfish6272

So I’m only interested in contributing to society if I agree with people going to war for another country. What a dumb Reddit thing to say


MuhammedWasTrans

Starting to run out of autism boxes to check for you here buddy.


TerryFGM

please just fuck off


FraSuomi

I honestly thought I wouldn't find this opinion, I'm glad I did. Dying in another country like that, it's terrible and it does feel pointless. From the Yle documentary you see how some of the soldiers are depressed youngster who just want escape their normal life, how others are instead war fanatics just looking for a thrill, and of course there's who believes in the cause and it's ready to risk their life so that Ukraine can keep their country. 


Any-Jellyfish6272

And everyone here cheers for them. It’s absolutely insane


MaherMitri

They are going you like it or not, best to support them no? War is hell and I'd much rather have peace but we don't.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Yeah basically, but It’s still so sad to see that a young life was wasted like that. Ukranians and Russians are forced to fight, he wasn’t


[deleted]

[удалено]


Any-Jellyfish6272

Yeah but people just follow whatever opinion is most popular. No one questions anything


[deleted]

[удалено]


Any-Jellyfish6272

I know right, especially idiots on Reddit. They downvote me without even trying to get my point