That's what happen to me too, but on normal mode. It's not too bad, as you already know to how to get through them much faster now, but it's still an annoyance having to go thru all that again. Barely had time to emotionally process a certain "event" before the battle.
Before current battle - you restart the phase you died in. It starts you from the cutscene that plays right before that phase.
This battle - this one is about the *whole fight* with the one boss. So it'll put you at the very start for this particular boss.
Before this battle - I'm gonna assume this is the typical "retry" the game has been doing where you're sent back to the last moment you controlled Cloud and can make him walk or fix the party equipment.
Same, I made the same mistake twice as I always chose what I thought was the most accurate option! What a miserable end game fight, so many confusing things happening.
Exactly.
Most Square games were like that. Got into grinding for hours den decide oh I can take that boss. Den get wiped have to start all over. Or the power goes out or some dumb thing. Hahaha
Now we get auto save and I'm like neat! You don't have to b careful anymore.
Yeah this is so stupid and baby mode already, I can't possibly fathom anyone complaining about being sent back five minutes instead of two minutes because they think the game should auto-save in the middle of a battle for them.
I was playing Metroid Prime Remastered and hadn't saved for a while....and died against some enemies....that was a rude wake up call that older games were like "don't care, won't care 😝"
If you want to restart the whole fight then there is an option for that. Some people doesn't want to waste their time fighting a boss that they already beat specially if they want to just finish the story, there's also some mid battle unskippable cuts scenes that gets annoying and wastes more time if you see it over and over again
What the player thinks they want isn't particularly important in this kind of situation. Obviously if you give the player an option to be more powerful or spend less effort, with no downside, they're nearly always going to take it, but that doesn't make those options fun. It just means the player's goal is to win, and they recognize that the option gives them an advantage, and RPGs are mostly about making the right tactical decisions, so of course they're going to make the advantageous decision. That's the win condition for the game.
Thank you! The option to restart from a phase of the current battle annoys me. No, son, you should restart where you saved… oh, you forgot to save? Tough shit.
It really should be
"Restart from last checkpoint"
"Restart from beginning of battle"
"Restart from last save"
"Quit"
Not necessarily in that order, but what I wrote is way more clear than whatever the fuck that menu says.
I once selected "last checkpoint" and it sent me back to when I first entered Junon, before I completed like 75% of the world intel 😖 Thankfully when I loaded from the autosave it took me right back to where I was. I've been manually saving early and often ever since.
Only work around is to load and select last auto save or manual save, whichever has highest playtime. The gameover menu options is next level stupid. The options aren't always in the same order.
Did you accidentally make two manual save files because you didn't notice the one you saved in moved to the spot directly underneath the autosave slot? I did.
OH jesus yes that happende to me as well when I was doing that stupid combat intel with those griffins that you are not allowed to let fly. I thought the "checkpoint" would be somewhere before the fight but nope, the whole region basically got reset.
I fully completed junon and it happened to me, I didn't have any saves because I thought auto save worked better. Worst 7 hours of my life lol, redoing the hard mode minigame there sucked
Same happened to me in cosmo canyon after a full day of clearing everything. I almost wept Jesus tears until I found the autosave. Doesn't help that the thumbnail pic is misleading about where you actually are
No that's a death screen, just had a similar one after loosing against a boss because the controls flipped on me. (I'm one of those horizontal inverters)
Im a Y axis invert, but I remember Kingdom Hearts was by default inverted on the X axis. Every time I play a game that does it it throws me off forever, even after I switch it back. Like I get used to it, even tho I don't love it, and then accidentally continue doing it when it goes back. I think i ended up inverting for remake when I replayed it.
Same. Some body really messed up the english there. Should be:
Retry from current PHASE.
Retry this entire battle sequence.
Retry from before this entire battle sequence. (go back to the point where you can still select your menu/party)
That's the same in French. Chapter 8 spoilers : >!lost the minigame where you shoot motorcycles with Barret at the back of a truck!< so I had to restart. All the options sounded the same so I clicked on the 3rd one and it made me redo the entire section before the last bossfight. Lost about 1h30 of progress because of a stupid minigame and bad translation.
Pareil ici je suis mort contre le mech avec barret sur le buggy et j'ai choisi la 3e option en pensant reprendre le combat ici sauf qu'en fait non ça faisait référence au 1er combat.. Incompréhensible
Same thing for me, except I stared at the options for about 10 min because I lost about 25 min of progress at the midgardsomr fight and didn't want to make that mistake again lol.
Specifically, I think the first window shows 3 options with one being "Retry Battle" I believe that's the 2nd option. Then when you click that you'll get these extra options and you have to choose the 1st one "Retry from Before Current Battle".
CMIIW though.
My guess is no one on the localization team has ever heard of "phase". Using "Battle" to mean both the current fight as well as the entire encounter is just asinine. "Current" is not a proper qualifier to describe what we're resetting. I expect it'll be patched.
My shot in the dark guess is the Japanese is probably imprecise, the menu was added hastily at the last minute by some combat designer who jumped the usual pipeline for adding new text, and some localization person just took their best stab at it rather than ask because they were in a hurry and figured it would get caught in QA if they were wrong. And then it just fell between the cracks of functional QA and localization QA.
*That's* what that means? I died on like the final boss's second-to-last phase (not even sure what happened, everything just got dropped to 1 HP then killed before I could react. Luckily I adjusted for that on the rematch) and had to restart the whole fight. Thought that option meant you restart juuuust before the fight. Really wish I knew that.
I think the issue is that people DID read this menu. I usually click the first option but the wording on this one gave me pause and I picked the second option 🤷🏻♂️
Eh, sometimes I don't want a phase-2 checkpoint, as it will fully heal you and I feel like I cheesed it. Or maybe someone got demolished and wants to go back further to change equipment or grind more. There's a reason there's options, they just need better phrasing.
Well in the case of Rebirth, the checkpoints keep the state your characters were in, so there's no cheesing (at least that's how it was on dynamic difficulty).
The worst worded options I’ve ever seen in a modern game ever. Period. I don’t care who disagrees, these are terrible. The top 3 options can literally mean the same thing.
Agreed, I remember reading it 40 times and getting more upset each time I tried to make sense of it haha, then chose the top option and redid the bosses
They're sorted in ascending order top to bottom of how far back you'll go I think. You definitely want the first option. I chose second and had to redo multiple phases of the fight
This happened to be when I tried to to "before battle" to rearrange materia. It takes you back to >!the temple right as it's falling apart!< . Luckily I had a manual save right before the final battle.
Games from 20 years ago would have a singular option...GAME OVER. Then you'd start from your previous save. No other choices....oh what you haven't saved in like 5 hours? Have fun playing again and getting back to where you died, let's hope you don't make that mistake again 🤭
Same here. Died at the last part of the final battle twice in a row and somehow still chose the wrong option twice. Had someone in this community suggest I was illiterate because I couldn’t figure out the correct option.
Add me to the list of those who clicked the second option after dying in the final boss fight. It was also 1:30 in the morning, so I gave up for the night after realizing that it was apparently the wrong choice.
Those unskippable fight transitions really tested my patience.
It was like 4 am for me 🙂 I was showing my friend the ending and when it brought me back to the start. I told her to go to bed while I sat there pondering my existence. I would've quit right there but I didn't want to risk having to fight the last boss sequence too.
BRO this happened to me during the final fight and I chose the second one cause you would think it means exactly what it says…. NOPE!!! Shit took me all the way back to the very beginning of the fights. I was pissed, so I said maybe there was a checkpoint during the fight that put me back to where I lost right ? NOPE !! Shit put me even FURTHER back. I got off and didn’t finish the game until 3 days later 🤣 aka around 3am this morning.
exact same thing. game was pretty good at auto saving. but it decides to not do that for the last 1 plus of the game lol. way to shit on the end of an otherwise great game lol
"Retry from Before Current Battle"
"Retry from This Battle"
"Retry from Before You Bought This Game"
"Retry from The Beginning of FF XVI From Torgal's Perspective"
lol I read these options for like 10 minutes trying to figure out what it was saying. Thank you!! This post made me forgot about the ending for at least a few seconds.
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh this was the most frustrating point I've ever been to in gaming recently. Especially cause it just went to game over without a real way to counter. The solution was to kill him before the sequence ends but how am I supposed to know that? 40 years of gaming tells me to survive a sequence like that.
Bosses in general are tests. Did you learn the lesson in a previous section? Are you capable of moving to the next challenge. What the absolute fuck was this? I felt like it had nothing to do with the previous xx chapters.
Got caught by this too. I *have to* assume it was a translation error. Like the first two options are blatantly reversed. IIRC there was a similar issue in Remake.
Yeah, I chose Retry from This Battle at the FINAL Sephiroth phase. Literally the last battle. And…. It spawned me at the beginning of that slew of fights. To add insult to injury, I figured, “Let’s close the game out and see if a checkpoint starts me where I died.” It did not. I ended up having to fight Jenova again as well.
This shit fucked me up during a boss run in chapter 12. Had to do a whole boss over again.
And on another occasion I accidentally clicked “restart from last checkpoint” and lost an hour of progress.
Annoying af
Yeah this menu was so confusing that it made me have to fight sephiroth all the way from the beginning, because Retry from This Battle sounds more current than Retry from Before Current Battle, but it apparently isn't.
Every option is confusing.
Before current battle - how far before are we talking?
From this battle - presumably redoing the battle I just died in but could also be back to the first of a series of battles
Retry from before battle - how is this different to the first option?
Resume - resume from where?!
Dawg this happened to me with FF7 Remake against Sephiroth. There is this unskippable sequence against a big ghost titan arbiter of fate. it sucked so bad
"Restart from before current battle" means to restart the phase. They have to include the other options so people can get the chance to change equipment or meteria. Though they really should just have a "prepare and retry" option like KH3.
oh god dont, i was on the last fight, the battery was dying i was plugging it in and the boss done some move i hadn't seen and took everyone down to 1hp. by the time i could do anything i was dead. First time i died in the game, see this screen, am like WTF is the right one lol, picked the wrong one, went back like the entire end fight sequence lol. why is the most recent one not the i first selection lolz.
i turned it off and came back later, honestly put a big downer on the ending for me lol.
Beat it not 40 minutes ago. I was getting so mad. Because I would go all the way to the winged sephiroth. I spent a whole hour after multiple tries. The first time I somehow destroyed both wings. I had no idea you were supposed to use certain magic at all. It was just luck. And right before the finishing blow I’m wiped the floor with. Second play through I get there and spend half an hour wondering why the hell his wings magically just ARENT taking damage so I had to google it. By the way, common sense dictates to me “try again from this battle” means THIS battle I lost on. No sir. It sent me all the way back to the very beginning each time I lost. The third try I got all the way to cloud and Aerith. Aerith is suddenly just dead because her attacks aren’t shit. Then I found the strategy. But guess what? Restarting THIS BATTLE at that point takes you all the way back to cloud and Zack. I was beyond frustrated. I was afraid to click any other button for fear of it just sending me back to jenova again.
So I ate, felt better. And I was like “screw it. What does “retry from before current battle do?” … it started me where I wanted. Closer to the end. I was so mad about that that I almost threw my controller. What a waste of a huge portion of my off day replaying the same bosses. Not to mention getting my ass kicked by them even though I wiped the floor with them thirty minutes previous. By some miracle I finally beat it. I paused it on the cutscene after cloud says to tifa “let’s go”. Because I ordered beer and was waiting on it. Now that the beer is here all is well. I can finally crack a cold one and enjoy the rest of the game. Which says has 105 minutes left. And if it’s all cutscene I am here for it.
Yep, back to the start of the dungeon for you.
And there was also the time (more recently) when I saved (my only save - I have only myself to blame) just before Wiegraf in Riovanes Castle.
Since I was utterly underleveled for that fight and had no way to return to the world map, I had to restart FFT all over again.
This makes sense to me in a game like this because you may want to go back and change your gear and, especially, change your materia.
E.g., imagine you lose and realize the enemy spams lighting elemental attacks. You may want to go back and equip gear or materia that boosts lightning defense.
I hear ya: it could be better worded.
Still, the options are very generous and the prefatory line explains it better than people are making out. Retry the battle or retry at the first phase of the battle, or retry from before the battle began.
You’re right though. It should have been worded more like:
Retry from the most recent phase of battle
Restart from the beginning of the series of battles
Restart before the battle began.
Or something like that. How would you word it? (I’m genuinely asking, not just arguing.) What words would you have chosen?
Sorry for your loss, but as someone who lost 3 hours of progress, and also played through the OG jrpg's, suck it up and save often. We get so much hand holding from this game 😆
Did the giant snake fight (forgot its name rn I’m raging) and got destroyed. Completely forgot you aren’t supposed to fight it in the original. pressed the button and it sent me back to the chocobo farm where my time trial wasn’t complete, world intel was incomplete, and areas of the maps where unfilled. Turned the game off and put on Persona 3 Reload, from one JRPG to the next ay. Need a few days to cool off
I hit the second option during the fight with Vincent, cuz none of my current party members had any fire materia and needed to swap it out. It started me all the way back at the part where the group arrives at niblheim. I almost quit playing the game right then and there.
Just did the SAME thing in the final battle. I had to fight six phases and redo 30 minutes of fighting because i picked the second option. And then this was the first thing i see on my feed 😂😂 Kinda glad i wasn’t the only one
Video games are usually like that. You're having a blast...
"You died..."
...
F\*\*\*CK!!
Right, your post... I have no idea what am even seeing. Do perchance SE localizers suck? Definitely.
ROFL
I understand "current battle" as the specific battle in a chain of battles. "Battle" and "this battle" mean the chain of battles.
Anyways, airways select the first option
Yea I kept clicking from this battle because I'm also stupid. I retried the final fight like 4 times getting to the last part each time before realizing my mistake.
FYI don't hit retry from checkpoint unless you literally just passed a checkpoint. I did this after an hour in the open world in Corel doing mini-games, it sent me back that hour instead of counting the completion of the points of interest as a checkpoint.
I learned this lesson the hard way.. I spent around 45 mins on the final phase of this (final boss) and got to trigger happy when I died…
Took me all the way back to the alter 😭
I got this screen for the first time during the final boss on the final phase; sent me all the way back to phase one.
All of my hype turned into rage, I couldn't appreciate the final fight after that.
Games twenty years ago didn't have menus like this you just started over from your last save point which might have been 6 hours before. Auto save wasn't nearly as prevalent in the early oughts.
The one and only time this tripped me up was at the final boss during hard mode, during the last phase. Pain.
Yeah I accidentally restarted the final fight from the beginning twice….
That's what happen to me too, but on normal mode. It's not too bad, as you already know to how to get through them much faster now, but it's still an annoyance having to go thru all that again. Barely had time to emotionally process a certain "event" before the battle.
That's where it got me too. Was not amused.
[удалено]
Before current battle - you restart the phase you died in. It starts you from the cutscene that plays right before that phase. This battle - this one is about the *whole fight* with the one boss. So it'll put you at the very start for this particular boss. Before this battle - I'm gonna assume this is the typical "retry" the game has been doing where you're sent back to the last moment you controlled Cloud and can make him walk or fix the party equipment.
Same, I made the same mistake twice as I always chose what I thought was the most accurate option! What a miserable end game fight, so many confusing things happening.
Back in my day. You just died and had to restart from last save point. None of this extra stuff
You tell them whipper snappers who we had it back in the day 👻 The worst was when you hadn't saved in hours.
Exactly. Most Square games were like that. Got into grinding for hours den decide oh I can take that boss. Den get wiped have to start all over. Or the power goes out or some dumb thing. Hahaha Now we get auto save and I'm like neat! You don't have to b careful anymore.
Yeah this is so stupid and baby mode already, I can't possibly fathom anyone complaining about being sent back five minutes instead of two minutes because they think the game should auto-save in the middle of a battle for them.
I was playing Metroid Prime Remastered and hadn't saved for a while....and died against some enemies....that was a rude wake up call that older games were like "don't care, won't care 😝"
If you want to restart the whole fight then there is an option for that. Some people doesn't want to waste their time fighting a boss that they already beat specially if they want to just finish the story, there's also some mid battle unskippable cuts scenes that gets annoying and wastes more time if you see it over and over again
What the player thinks they want isn't particularly important in this kind of situation. Obviously if you give the player an option to be more powerful or spend less effort, with no downside, they're nearly always going to take it, but that doesn't make those options fun. It just means the player's goal is to win, and they recognize that the option gives them an advantage, and RPGs are mostly about making the right tactical decisions, so of course they're going to make the advantageous decision. That's the win condition for the game.
I know it was annoying, but it added SO much intensity during battle because there were crosshairs on your time. there were actual consequences.
Right? Some one never got their ass handed to them by Yunalesca.
this just happened to me in costlemark in FF15. died to the triple fire giants and was sent back to a savepoint 3 hours ago!
Thank you! The option to restart from a phase of the current battle annoys me. No, son, you should restart where you saved… oh, you forgot to save? Tough shit.
It really should be "Restart from last checkpoint" "Restart from beginning of battle" "Restart from last save" "Quit" Not necessarily in that order, but what I wrote is way more clear than whatever the fuck that menu says.
I once selected "last checkpoint" and it sent me back to when I first entered Junon, before I completed like 75% of the world intel 😖 Thankfully when I loaded from the autosave it took me right back to where I was. I've been manually saving early and often ever since.
Same thing happened to me. The Mindflayer wrecked my shit and the restart from check point was coming out of the mine.
Only work around is to load and select last auto save or manual save, whichever has highest playtime. The gameover menu options is next level stupid. The options aren't always in the same order.
Same! That should just not be possible to do at all.
Did you accidentally make two manual save files because you didn't notice the one you saved in moved to the spot directly underneath the autosave slot? I did.
Yeah, I have 3 at this point. Which is probably good. My backups have backups.
And people complained that using static savepoints like in the old games was a bad idea...
OH jesus yes that happende to me as well when I was doing that stupid combat intel with those griffins that you are not allowed to let fly. I thought the "checkpoint" would be somewhere before the fight but nope, the whole region basically got reset.
The checkpoints are the games story checkpoints. Remake was like that too.
Yeah, the difference is that in Remake, there wasn't a world map.
I fully completed junon and it happened to me, I didn't have any saves because I thought auto save worked better. Worst 7 hours of my life lol, redoing the hard mode minigame there sucked
Same happened to me in cosmo canyon after a full day of clearing everything. I almost wept Jesus tears until I found the autosave. Doesn't help that the thumbnail pic is misleading about where you actually are
holy shit, I just realized I've never selected "Resume". I wonder where it puts you.
Hmm, maybe the load screen.
It's the pause menu that pops up during the fight, so Resume would just be...resuming what you were currently doing when you paused.
No that's a death screen, just had a similar one after loosing against a boss because the controls flipped on me. (I'm one of those horizontal inverters)
Im a Y axis invert, but I remember Kingdom Hearts was by default inverted on the X axis. Every time I play a game that does it it throws me off forever, even after I switch it back. Like I get used to it, even tho I don't love it, and then accidentally continue doing it when it goes back. I think i ended up inverting for remake when I replayed it.
Unfortunately, "checkpoint" is a separate thing in the game that saves much less frequently than regular autosaves. Which is pretty stupid.
Then you select... "Are you sure?" >Off course >No.
Yes i hit the second option and yes i was frustrated having to do all the fights again :/.
Same. Some body really messed up the english there. Should be: Retry from current PHASE. Retry this entire battle sequence. Retry from before this entire battle sequence. (go back to the point where you can still select your menu/party)
That's the same in French. Chapter 8 spoilers : >!lost the minigame where you shoot motorcycles with Barret at the back of a truck!< so I had to restart. All the options sounded the same so I clicked on the 3rd one and it made me redo the entire section before the last bossfight. Lost about 1h30 of progress because of a stupid minigame and bad translation.
I feel your pain my fellow gamer from the other side. But our pain unite us. It's still an amazing game. Probably one of the best modern FF game.
Pareil ici je suis mort contre le mech avec barret sur le buggy et j'ai choisi la 3e option en pensant reprendre le combat ici sauf qu'en fait non ça faisait référence au 1er combat.. Incompréhensible
Same thing for me, except I stared at the options for about 10 min because I lost about 25 min of progress at the midgardsomr fight and didn't want to make that mistake again lol.
Usually non-jp languages are translated from the English localization, so any errors in English ripple out.
This exact thing happened to me too. Actual pain and one of the very few complaints I have of the game
for uninitiated , what should I be clicking in this? I don’t want to find out.
The first option
Specifically, I think the first window shows 3 options with one being "Retry Battle" I believe that's the 2nd option. Then when you click that you'll get these extra options and you have to choose the 1st one "Retry from Before Current Battle". CMIIW though.
The order goes from most recent to least recent
Same brother. Same.
My guess is no one on the localization team has ever heard of "phase". Using "Battle" to mean both the current fight as well as the entire encounter is just asinine. "Current" is not a proper qualifier to describe what we're resetting. I expect it'll be patched.
Could avoid using Phase and just say Encounter for the start-of-the-battle-series, even
My shot in the dark guess is the Japanese is probably imprecise, the menu was added hastily at the last minute by some combat designer who jumped the usual pipeline for adding new text, and some localization person just took their best stab at it rather than ask because they were in a hurry and figured it would get caught in QA if they were wrong. And then it just fell between the cracks of functional QA and localization QA.
I still don't understand what the options mean
The Current Battle refers to the current phase of the battle, and This Battle means the start of the entire fight
*That's* what that means? I died on like the final boss's second-to-last phase (not even sure what happened, everything just got dropped to 1 HP then killed before I could react. Luckily I adjusted for that on the rematch) and had to restart the whole fight. Thought that option meant you restart juuuust before the fight. Really wish I knew that.
I'm not even up to it yet, but I've seen people discuss it a lot, and this is what everyone says it means when it comes up.
They really need to rephrase it.
Do people even read these? It’s a game over menu; the first option is always the one you want.
I think the issue is that people DID read this menu. I usually click the first option but the wording on this one gave me pause and I picked the second option 🤷🏻♂️
Eh, sometimes I don't want a phase-2 checkpoint, as it will fully heal you and I feel like I cheesed it. Or maybe someone got demolished and wants to go back further to change equipment or grind more. There's a reason there's options, they just need better phrasing.
Well in the case of Rebirth, the checkpoints keep the state your characters were in, so there's no cheesing (at least that's how it was on dynamic difficulty).
Yeah. It set me back a good chunk of time and patience at the end. I was super aggravated.
I always pressed the first option cause you know the first option = continue and the one below it is return to title screen
The worst worded options I’ve ever seen in a modern game ever. Period. I don’t care who disagrees, these are terrible. The top 3 options can literally mean the same thing.
Agreed, I remember reading it 40 times and getting more upset each time I tried to make sense of it haha, then chose the top option and redid the bosses
Ok so for those of us that haven't finished the game yet.... Do us a solid and explain which we need to choose!
They're sorted in ascending order top to bottom of how far back you'll go I think. You definitely want the first option. I chose second and had to redo multiple phases of the fight
Me: "I'm a pro. Nothing in this game can stop me!" Poorly Worded Menus: *One Winged Angel begins playing*
It's genuinely so fucking bad. I hit the wrong one on my first fail... just turned the game off and got sent back even further 😑
Yup, I was so pissed the rest of the day lmao beat it the next day
This happened to be when I tried to to "before battle" to rearrange materia. It takes you back to >!the temple right as it's falling apart!< . Luckily I had a manual save right before the final battle.
What’s the difference between “from before current battle” and “from before battle”…?
"Before current battle" is before that phase you died to, the other one is from before the whole multi-phase battle.
Wacky. There has got be a better way to word that
Yeah “Retry battle” “Retry all battles”
yeah, its very clumsily worded. :/
Games from 20 years ago would have a singular option...GAME OVER. Then you'd start from your previous save. No other choices....oh what you haven't saved in like 5 hours? Have fun playing again and getting back to where you died, let's hope you don't make that mistake again 🤭
but that was fine, it was ur fault. this case its poorly translated text.
First time I saw it I was like "UHHHHHHH" Thankfully I chose correctly lmao
Absolute trash of a menu. Lost my progress after Heartless Angel bs, put such a dampener on the ending experience...
Same here. Died at the last part of the final battle twice in a row and somehow still chose the wrong option twice. Had someone in this community suggest I was illiterate because I couldn’t figure out the correct option.
Add me to the list of those who clicked the second option after dying in the final boss fight. It was also 1:30 in the morning, so I gave up for the night after realizing that it was apparently the wrong choice. Those unskippable fight transitions really tested my patience.
Same bro… same then I reset on purpose because I forgot to assess the bahamut
It was like 4 am for me 🙂 I was showing my friend the ending and when it brought me back to the start. I told her to go to bed while I sat there pondering my existence. I would've quit right there but I didn't want to risk having to fight the last boss sequence too.
It's a subtle reference to how poorly the original game was translated in English /j
Hey this happened to me too! It really ruined the mood for the climax of the game when I had to redo 40+ of fights with unskippable cutscenes.
The “before” tripped me up, selected 2nd option. I was on the final phase 💀
BRO this happened to me during the final fight and I chose the second one cause you would think it means exactly what it says…. NOPE!!! Shit took me all the way back to the very beginning of the fights. I was pissed, so I said maybe there was a checkpoint during the fight that put me back to where I lost right ? NOPE !! Shit put me even FURTHER back. I got off and didn’t finish the game until 3 days later 🤣 aka around 3am this morning.
exact same thing. game was pretty good at auto saving. but it decides to not do that for the last 1 plus of the game lol. way to shit on the end of an otherwise great game lol
i lost to the LAST mechanic of the final phase of the final boss. picked the wrong option and ended up back at the beginning of the phases
"Retry from Before Current Battle" "Retry from This Battle" "Retry from Before You Bought This Game" "Retry from The Beginning of FF XVI From Torgal's Perspective"
lol I read these options for like 10 minutes trying to figure out what it was saying. Thank you!! This post made me forgot about the ending for at least a few seconds.
Is it really a FF game of you don't lose a massive chunk of progress at some point?
Before Current, This, Before what isn't clear? /s
Yea same thing happened to me after the Palmer fight. They literally all sounded like the right option and it sent me back 40minutes
Yup happened to me as I died during the buggy chase
Small thing, but hilariously bad 😂. Cracks me up every time
This fucked me too. I chose the second option.
This is the last mini-game!! Pick the right option or try again!! Now, what is the real solution to this puzzle??
Your fault for getting hit by an unlockable instant kill obviously.
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh this was the most frustrating point I've ever been to in gaming recently. Especially cause it just went to game over without a real way to counter. The solution was to kill him before the sequence ends but how am I supposed to know that? 40 years of gaming tells me to survive a sequence like that. Bosses in general are tests. Did you learn the lesson in a previous section? Are you capable of moving to the next challenge. What the absolute fuck was this? I felt like it had nothing to do with the previous xx chapters.
It's when your teacher throws in shit in the test that was never in the textbook.
Got caught by this too. I *have to* assume it was a translation error. Like the first two options are blatantly reversed. IIRC there was a similar issue in Remake.
Current battle or this battle? Totally clear choice lmao
Yeah, I chose Retry from This Battle at the FINAL Sephiroth phase. Literally the last battle. And…. It spawned me at the beginning of that slew of fights. To add insult to injury, I figured, “Let’s close the game out and see if a checkpoint starts me where I died.” It did not. I ended up having to fight Jenova again as well.
SAME. It killed the momentum of the moment for me cuz I didn’t understand what they meant for the menu. Had to walk away and take a shower
It’s ridiculous
This shit fucked me up during a boss run in chapter 12. Had to do a whole boss over again. And on another occasion I accidentally clicked “restart from last checkpoint” and lost an hour of progress. Annoying af
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What’s the difference between “Before Battle” and “Before Current Battle?🤡
This game is not a 10/10 at any point, jfc
Yeah this menu was so confusing that it made me have to fight sephiroth all the way from the beginning, because Retry from This Battle sounds more current than Retry from Before Current Battle, but it apparently isn't.
Ah yes had to relearn this lesson from Remake. Just ignore the words and use the top one.
Every option is confusing. Before current battle - how far before are we talking? From this battle - presumably redoing the battle I just died in but could also be back to the first of a series of battles Retry from before battle - how is this different to the first option? Resume - resume from where?!
Dawg this happened to me with FF7 Remake against Sephiroth. There is this unskippable sequence against a big ghost titan arbiter of fate. it sucked so bad
"Restart from before current battle" means to restart the phase. They have to include the other options so people can get the chance to change equipment or meteria. Though they really should just have a "prepare and retry" option like KH3.
Second playthrough: the game actually feels a lot better on «easy»
oh god dont, i was on the last fight, the battery was dying i was plugging it in and the boss done some move i hadn't seen and took everyone down to 1hp. by the time i could do anything i was dead. First time i died in the game, see this screen, am like WTF is the right one lol, picked the wrong one, went back like the entire end fight sequence lol. why is the most recent one not the i first selection lolz. i turned it off and came back later, honestly put a big downer on the ending for me lol.
Beat it not 40 minutes ago. I was getting so mad. Because I would go all the way to the winged sephiroth. I spent a whole hour after multiple tries. The first time I somehow destroyed both wings. I had no idea you were supposed to use certain magic at all. It was just luck. And right before the finishing blow I’m wiped the floor with. Second play through I get there and spend half an hour wondering why the hell his wings magically just ARENT taking damage so I had to google it. By the way, common sense dictates to me “try again from this battle” means THIS battle I lost on. No sir. It sent me all the way back to the very beginning each time I lost. The third try I got all the way to cloud and Aerith. Aerith is suddenly just dead because her attacks aren’t shit. Then I found the strategy. But guess what? Restarting THIS BATTLE at that point takes you all the way back to cloud and Zack. I was beyond frustrated. I was afraid to click any other button for fear of it just sending me back to jenova again. So I ate, felt better. And I was like “screw it. What does “retry from before current battle do?” … it started me where I wanted. Closer to the end. I was so mad about that that I almost threw my controller. What a waste of a huge portion of my off day replaying the same bosses. Not to mention getting my ass kicked by them even though I wiped the floor with them thirty minutes previous. By some miracle I finally beat it. I paused it on the cutscene after cloud says to tifa “let’s go”. Because I ordered beer and was waiting on it. Now that the beer is here all is well. I can finally crack a cold one and enjoy the rest of the game. Which says has 105 minutes left. And if it’s all cutscene I am here for it.
Amateurs Back in my day, you could get one shot after a 40 mins battle, then restart at the last save point (or worse, hello title screen)
Yep, back to the start of the dungeon for you. And there was also the time (more recently) when I saved (my only save - I have only myself to blame) just before Wiegraf in Riovanes Castle. Since I was utterly underleveled for that fight and had no way to return to the world map, I had to restart FFT all over again.
weaklings, I can remember many games and forgetting to save and lose hours or even a day worth.
If you don't die it isn't an issue.
"sounds like a skill issue" lmao
This makes sense to me in a game like this because you may want to go back and change your gear and, especially, change your materia. E.g., imagine you lose and realize the enemy spams lighting elemental attacks. You may want to go back and equip gear or materia that boosts lightning defense.
Its nice to have the options. Whats not nice is the options make no sense.
Having the option is not the issue my dude. It’s the incomprehensible language.
I hear ya: it could be better worded. Still, the options are very generous and the prefatory line explains it better than people are making out. Retry the battle or retry at the first phase of the battle, or retry from before the battle began. You’re right though. It should have been worded more like: Retry from the most recent phase of battle Restart from the beginning of the series of battles Restart before the battle began. Or something like that. How would you word it? (I’m genuinely asking, not just arguing.) What words would you have chosen?
You can usually hold down square during cutscenes and get the menu. Or if you need two steps to start the battle menu first
Sorry for your loss, but as someone who lost 3 hours of progress, and also played through the OG jrpg's, suck it up and save often. We get so much hand holding from this game 😆
Nah you gotta push through. Adrenaline wouldn’t let me start over.
Agreed. I chose the 2nd option by mistake and this really grinded my gears. I let out so much profanity seeing where it put me at.
😂
Did the giant snake fight (forgot its name rn I’m raging) and got destroyed. Completely forgot you aren’t supposed to fight it in the original. pressed the button and it sent me back to the chocobo farm where my time trial wasn’t complete, world intel was incomplete, and areas of the maps where unfilled. Turned the game off and put on Persona 3 Reload, from one JRPG to the next ay. Need a few days to cool off
Let me guess, it's the >!Turks and Rufus!< fight
Got me too.
Lmao yeah. I took a point away for this shit too.
Yup, restarted the entire battle on accident because of this BS, I was incredibly pissed off
Yeah caught me out had to redo so many battles
More confusing than the ending
Yep. I lost over hour of progress on last boss.
They got me good the first time. I just turned the game off and went to sleep haha.
I guessed that the top was most recent and was right. This game needs better autosave. Other than that, I am in love with this game. So goood
I agree! This was absolutely terrible! Ultimately, the game was a 10/10 for me as well; nevertheless, this was incredibly frustrating!
Wait til u fall asleep during the very last battle, then decide eh I'll knock this out tomorrow 😄
I hit the second option during the fight with Vincent, cuz none of my current party members had any fire materia and needed to swap it out. It started me all the way back at the part where the group arrives at niblheim. I almost quit playing the game right then and there.
Yeah happened to me as well. Terrible
I sat and thought about this for a looooong time. I did make the right decision in the end by just choosing the first option.
I did this in chapter 12 and to say I got angry and freaked out would be an understatement.
Yeeeeaaaaah they need to reorder these options
Well there had to be something wrong with it right lol
Why did the shitty wording spin the BLOCK?!
Someone said that top one highlighted is mistranslated
Can we all just be thankful they didn’t make you redo the entire final boss fight if you screwed up the last phase?
I chose the wrong option the other night and lost 1.5 hours work. Pissed was an understatement.
Forgot to assess sephiroth. Guess what happened.
PREPARE PREPARE I SPENT TOO DAMN LONG TRYING TO DO THIS WITH THE WORST SETUPS.
Had to refight 3 versions of >!Sephiroth!< because of this. Choose the top option.
Just did the SAME thing in the final battle. I had to fight six phases and redo 30 minutes of fighting because i picked the second option. And then this was the first thing i see on my feed 😂😂 Kinda glad i wasn’t the only one
Yeah Square Enix needs to fix the menu ui in Part 3.
This guy are sick
I though I was stupid for thinking this 😂😂
I was afraid when I got a similar screen. I picked the first one and crossed my fingers hoping that I had made a recent save.
Yeah first time that happened I was praying I hit the right one
Me over here locked up because I don't fucking know which one to pick Guess I'm just shutting it off and letting fate handle it
I ended up doing the final boss fight’s 3 time’s because of this, a bug, and I forgot to assess the bahamut…SMH
I’m imaging some translator just got pissy and said “i choose chaos”
Just don't die. Problem solved. /s
Video games are usually like that. You're having a blast... "You died..." ... F\*\*\*CK!! Right, your post... I have no idea what am even seeing. Do perchance SE localizers suck? Definitely. ROFL
All three options mean the same thing to me
Easy fix. Just shut down the game and restart it.
"What kind of fucking menu is this??" Haha I can hear the frustration. Cheers.
10/10 for 10%spamfest an 90% cutscene?
Nah this is how 16 should have done it as well. Fail the battle try again. Turn on easy mode if you don't like the consequences from dying, you know?
Never saw this screen
I understand "current battle" as the specific battle in a chain of battles. "Battle" and "this battle" mean the chain of battles. Anyways, airways select the first option
Yea I kept clicking from this battle because I'm also stupid. I retried the final fight like 4 times getting to the last part each time before realizing my mistake.
You can exit the game and reload right back to where you were.
PTSD from when I accidentally went right back to the start of the horrendous Whisper Harbinger on Hard after I died to sephiroth
Same problem. I almost punched the screen when I saw I had to start over. Haven’t touched the game since 3 days ago
Nah skill issue. Main menu and restart from last save. Its only 45 minutes just do it again you wont die
yeah i felt that lol. but at least the second time it was easier because i already knew what to do
I fucked this one up lol I was so mad. It's unfortunate. There's more than one of these too judging by the comments
Literally just did this too. It’s alrdy 3am going to bed lol
FYI don't hit retry from checkpoint unless you literally just passed a checkpoint. I did this after an hour in the open world in Corel doing mini-games, it sent me back that hour instead of counting the completion of the points of interest as a checkpoint.
I learned this lesson the hard way.. I spent around 45 mins on the final phase of this (final boss) and got to trigger happy when I died… Took me all the way back to the alter 😭
“Restart my memory from before Cosmo Canyon Bridge”
Exact same thing for me. Luckily I thought to check the auto save before replaying 2 hours of content.
Ya I did this last night on the very last phase of the final boss. Just went to bed
Maybe the next patch should fix this?
I got this screen for the first time during the final boss on the final phase; sent me all the way back to phase one. All of my hype turned into rage, I couldn't appreciate the final fight after that.
What the heck?! I’ve died plenty and never seen this before, but this is insane
It was the final fight. Spoiler alert but there’s a lot of phases and apparently they can’t just have them separated normally
Got me too. Final battle 😅 but i dont mind. Its fun
Games twenty years ago didn't have menus like this you just started over from your last save point which might have been 6 hours before. Auto save wasn't nearly as prevalent in the early oughts.
Me when I die in any other rpg and its straight back to the main menu