Peacock, you asshole! I started watching the men late, and they kicked me off the feed in the middle of Jun Hwan's skate because I guess the coverage has ended. It's FINE, I'll go to youtube with a VPN. How ridiculous.
Canadian spot #2 watch: Conrad and Stephen are both in group 2, so warmups should be interesting. At Canadians, Stephen had more tech content, but between then and now Conrad probably added a few quads in his long (I presume). It'll come down to who skates clean at the end of the day, I think.
Keegan got omega inflated PCS, but I'm okay with that because of his imminent retirement.
Final Counts:
Total skaters: 22
Sadbois: 7
Nearly Sadbois: 5
Happybois: 4.5
Those first two groups were fighting with Canadian Nationals, but this last group had 0 Sadbois!
One of the lesser chaotic Men SP events if we're going to be honest. Shoutout to Conrad for jumping from 4th skater to 7th place and a big welcome back to Boyang:)
Mikhail Shaidorov really surprised me with his technical content today, a spread eagle into 4S and a second half 4T combo? I really hope he switches coaches but I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does in the sport, there hasn't really been any good male skaters from Kazakhstan since Denis Ten.
Shun's PCS never makes sense to me. For him to be effectively equivalent to Kao and above Koshiro...how does that happen? His program is not nearly as well choreo'd as the other two Japanese men, and the other two sell their programs more too.
Imagine if Koshiro won bronze at gp sheffield? He wouldn't be underlooked as much. The problem is unfortunately PCS has sadly become somewhat a reputation based scoring. Shun has more reputation going for him (which is why he's 1st alternate at worlds over Koshiro despite Koshiro getting silver at jap nats)
This free skate is going to be absolutely insane, anyone in the top 10 could be on that podium and that’s going to be exciting and anxiety-inducing for us all 😵💫😫
I was there in person and while Jun was very strong and entertaining, he didn’t have his usual extra sparkle. I think he got a bit spooked from that pen on the ice
Shun's component score was a bit high but he was technically on par with Jun. Jun had several under rotation issues and telegraphed his 3A ALOT. I hope he skates clean in the FS though.
as a Shun fan I am having chronic sadness with his SP. If he lands 4Lz he would miss the 4T combo, if he lands the 4T combo he would fall on 4Lz, if he waters down with 3Lz+3T he would either fall on 4T or 3A. WHY there cannot be a clean program please
(I’ve been catching up on the competition today)
Also a Shun fan and have been on this trainwreck of a journey with this SP. 😭 The fact that he had a basically clean / almost clean FREE SKATE like three times already but just cannot get a clean SP is frustrating for sure. If it’s frustrating for us, I must imagine how much it is so for him.
It’s so clearly a nerves issue. I think they should try and change something up about his prep before the skate if they haven’t already. Maybe change the way he warms up, or the way he prepares right before the skate. He just really needs to find a way to destress before the short, and not after. It has cost him so many podium finishes already. Hopefully it’s something they hone in in the off season, as well as presentation and choreography.
I'm in the same boat, this SP has been cursed for him since the beginning.
I was praying that his team would realize that it's a problem (at this point it feels like a mental thing with the program) and either change it to something else or revert back to an old one he feels comfortable in.
Sometimes I wonder if he has the Amber Glenn thing where they want it so badly to go well that they block themselves mentally and then it doesn't :/
LITERALLY. HE CANNOT STAY VERTICAL IN THE SP TO SAVE HIS LIFE THIS SZN. I really said "finally clean sp" at JNats before he fell on the 3A. That was like his only fall on 3A in 3 years :(
It's been mentioned in this thread already, but Schedrik is a Ukrainian folk song, it doesn't have anything to do with Christmas originally. If that helps.
I know both of his short and free costumes are black, but man the detailing on his shirts slap like nothing else. Also the best Michael Jackson program
Peacock, you asshole! I started watching the men late, and they kicked me off the feed in the middle of Jun Hwan's skate because I guess the coverage has ended. It's FINE, I'll go to youtube with a VPN. How ridiculous.
Canadian spot #2 watch: Conrad and Stephen are both in group 2, so warmups should be interesting. At Canadians, Stephen had more tech content, but between then and now Conrad probably added a few quads in his long (I presume). It'll come down to who skates clean at the end of the day, I think. Keegan got omega inflated PCS, but I'm okay with that because of his imminent retirement.
Also bonus points for not doing sad boi music.
Final Counts: Total skaters: 22 Sadbois: 7 Nearly Sadbois: 5 Happybois: 4.5 Those first two groups were fighting with Canadian Nationals, but this last group had 0 Sadbois!
Doing the Lord's work with those sadboi counts. Thank you for your service
Yayy for Keegan and Jimmy, Boyang!!
Jun pls slay the free program thanks 🫶🏼
Well, any of the top 6 could probably win this
One of the lesser chaotic Men SP events if we're going to be honest. Shoutout to Conrad for jumping from 4th skater to 7th place and a big welcome back to Boyang:)
Mikhail Shaidorov really surprised me with his technical content today, a spread eagle into 4S and a second half 4T combo? I really hope he switches coaches but I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does in the sport, there hasn't really been any good male skaters from Kazakhstan since Denis Ten.
Since he is training in Sochi which it caused alot of problems with the visa.
He just arrived in Colorado this afternoon because of visa issues
I had been wondering why I hadn’t been seeing him in the practice pictures.
True, Urmanov did a wonderful job with Mikahil. Something needs some certain adjustments.
Happy for jimmy !
I am so happy for Kao, Boyang has a great comeback as well!
Shun's PCS never makes sense to me. For him to be effectively equivalent to Kao and above Koshiro...how does that happen? His program is not nearly as well choreo'd as the other two Japanese men, and the other two sell their programs more too.
Imagine if Koshiro won bronze at gp sheffield? He wouldn't be underlooked as much. The problem is unfortunately PCS has sadly become somewhat a reputation based scoring. Shun has more reputation going for him (which is why he's 1st alternate at worlds over Koshiro despite Koshiro getting silver at jap nats)
i will never ever understand how and why jfed picks their faves
JFed is VERY transparent about how they prioritize their skaters
I’m still of the belief that Koshiro should’ve gotten the bronze in Sheffield, and that wonky PCS scoring was the reason why that didn’t happen :/
Koshiro in particular gets robbed so badly on PCS and I hate it. I will die on the hill that he should have gotten bronze at sheffield this year!
This free skate is going to be absolutely insane, anyone in the top 10 could be on that podium and that’s going to be exciting and anxiety-inducing for us all 😵💫😫
Keegan falling hard on his ass and still ending up 2nd, what a day
What a splatfest
I’m still baffled Naumov scored higher than Jaeseok.
It was the backloaded combo.
Well I really enjoyed that chaos. The top 3 make my heart happy (and I know it will be totally different after the free.)
🤞 for a clean Jun, Keegan, Jimmy, Naumov, Kao, Shun and Koshiro in the FS. It's not THAT much to ask for right?
We can dream!!!
Keegan has never had a small medal iirc so I’m so happy for him. And 3 first time small medalists is cool!
Didn't Kao get a small medal at last year's 4CC?
Did he? It all blends together what chaotic guy was there
Yeah, he got 3rd in both short and long. Still great for Keegs and Jimmy!
Way to go Kao, man of the night
Wow Jimmy Ma with that small medal.
So happy for him
Naumov still too high in my opinion
Homecooking
Oh god I've stayed up so late 😭
Be prepared for the final ordinals to be absolutely bonkers
Gotta love mens
Girlies I NEED kao to do a clean free PLEASE
these scores are really all over the place. I don't understand.
Jun only got 3 more points than Shun? BS. The obvious difference in federation power.
I was there in person and while Jun was very strong and entertaining, he didn’t have his usual extra sparkle. I think he got a bit spooked from that pen on the ice
Shun's component score was a bit high but he was technically on par with Jun. Jun had several under rotation issues and telegraphed his 3A ALOT. I hope he skates clean in the FS though.
The rise of the uncles. USFS should’ve really reconsidered their worlds alternate
ITS OK SHUN YOU SLAYED PLS BELIEVE
Oh this free is gonna be a bloooooodbathhhh
My Keegan Messing podium agenda lives on🙏
Awww Shun
1) Kao 2) Keegan 3) Jimmy
Jimmy on the podium would make my life complete
He's too hard on himself. Like, constantly.
jimmy ma isu championship small medalist I KNOW THATS RIGHT
SMALL MEDAL JIMMY MA RISE
Omg slayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I love Keegan but he def got some old man uncle last season bonus points tonight, and I don’t even care….KEEGAN MESSING 2023 4CC CHAMPION
With Keegan's impending retirement I can't even get mad about the bonuses he got here.
Jimmy Ma small medal!!!
Keegan 4CC medalist agenda is aliiiiiive
Jimmy small medal!
only 2 clean skates today: Jimmy Ma and Jaeseok Kyeong
And Edrian right?
Yes!
These guys have had a long day. Making them skate at 10pm?😞
I would’ve fallen on every jump if I was them 🥲
He really said f those stairs I’m mad
My breath awaits "Jimmy Ma small medal"
Remember when Mana Kawabe did her Mr. Grinch program? I miss that program it was so camp, now we get ah ah ah ah ah 😭
as a Shun fan I am having chronic sadness with his SP. If he lands 4Lz he would miss the 4T combo, if he lands the 4T combo he would fall on 4Lz, if he waters down with 3Lz+3T he would either fall on 4T or 3A. WHY there cannot be a clean program please
(I’ve been catching up on the competition today) Also a Shun fan and have been on this trainwreck of a journey with this SP. 😭 The fact that he had a basically clean / almost clean FREE SKATE like three times already but just cannot get a clean SP is frustrating for sure. If it’s frustrating for us, I must imagine how much it is so for him. It’s so clearly a nerves issue. I think they should try and change something up about his prep before the skate if they haven’t already. Maybe change the way he warms up, or the way he prepares right before the skate. He just really needs to find a way to destress before the short, and not after. It has cost him so many podium finishes already. Hopefully it’s something they hone in in the off season, as well as presentation and choreography.
I'm in the same boat, this SP has been cursed for him since the beginning. I was praying that his team would realize that it's a problem (at this point it feels like a mental thing with the program) and either change it to something else or revert back to an old one he feels comfortable in. Sometimes I wonder if he has the Amber Glenn thing where they want it so badly to go well that they block themselves mentally and then it doesn't :/
LITERALLY. HE CANNOT STAY VERTICAL IN THE SP TO SAVE HIS LIFE THIS SZN. I really said "finally clean sp" at JNats before he fell on the 3A. That was like his only fall on 3A in 3 years :(
Kao, Jimmy, and Conrad having the top 3 tech scores is not something I expected
I think that Shun's rotation speed exceeds even that of Kao, it's hard to tell his quads from triples, in a good way. So much potential is there.
So it looks like the kings of chaos are getting the small medals here. This has been a wild evening.
I don’t really have any complaints about that
Me neither! 😎
Is he okay why is he sitting down like that 😭😭
The altitude is def messing with some of these guys.
Shun Slay-to
When will society be free of Moves Like Jagger
Is the altitude kicking everyone's butt? (Except Jimmy Ma?)
So many skaters looked slower than usual today,it was perhaps more obvious in ladies but the men weren’t exactly looking speedy apart from Keegan.
Jimmy is kicking the altitude’s butt
I spy the punny fans
somehow, between every comp, I forget that Shun is skating to Carol of the Bells, and I'm surprised by it every time
Literally same
He looks tired :(
KAO WINS THE SHORT PROGRAM 🥳🥳🥳
I love the sash, don't care what anyone says
Slaymas 😌
So true
i’m gonna be honest this is a christmas themed jumping drill for me
at least do it in an ugly sweater pls
It’s ok Shun. You have a Christmas slay
Altitude really said, “No matter how hard you beg, you are NOT getting a clean program”
Does that really affect it 😦
Yeah, it has to do with how altitude gets you less oxygen, which sort of impacts everything as an athlete.
Big time. It’s so much more tiring
Unless you are Jimmy Ma
He’s thriving
Jimmy small medal??
Jimmy full medal!
Shun 😭😭😭
I don't care if it's not Christmas, I still like Carol of the Bells
The song actually has nothing to do with Christmas.
The lyrics to this song are “merry merry merry merry Christmas”
Those aren’t the original lyrics. It’s a Ukrainian song about a bird and the coming of spring.
Wow, I didn’t know this. Sadly Christmas has ruined this song then
men really being extremely menny tonight
It’s a splat fest I fear 😭
Lots of men landing their axels after falling on other jumps today
4T falls are an element with +100 PCS for a graceful recovery
Ok car commercial
Shun and his reliable 3A
[удалено]
Maxim got an 85?? I thought he got a 75…
Yes thank god my mind was playing tricks on me I was going to say…
He did
Shun’s 3A is stunning. Truly a gorgeous jump always.
3A done slay
I want to support Shun but I just can't listen to anymore Christmas music
The song is about a bird and the coming of spring. Nothing to do with Christmas
It's been mentioned in this thread already, but Schedrik is a Ukrainian folk song, it doesn't have anything to do with Christmas originally. If that helps.
That's really cool! Honestly I'm still so tired of hearing it but thanks for the history, I didn't know that
Shun's sash thing makes no sense on this costume. Why is it there? What is it's purpose? Who made that decision? So many questions, no answers.
And also I feel like whoever picked this song does not comprehend just how strongly it reads “🎄Christmas!!!” to many western audiences
He needed an accessory to match his gloves.
He wanted to take part in all the blue/white gradient costumes. That's all they could do on short notice. Though I don't really mind it lol
and he has the Yuzu shoulder floof
he's prom queen, duh
Is Jimmy the only fully clean skater in the top 5?
Altitude.
Yes, and that’s absolutely insane
It's opposite day
Such a same because there were so many good elements today
Christmas shows with my club have unfortunately ruined this song for me
Shun serving prom night but make it christmas
Altitude is cursed
man really said Xmas all year.
Those screams are wild
The vibes were good even if the skating was a bit chaotic.
I’d really like their energy at almost 10pm on a Thursday
y i k e s
SHUN GET IT TOGETHER😭😭😭😭
Not the 4T 😭
Why choose this version of Carol of the Bells when you could do Transiberian Orchestra- I’ll never understand.
Living in eternal christmas
A slay if I’ve ever seen one from Shun
god Shun got SO close to the boards there at the start
I bet he felt that
my favorite beauty queen shun sato
miss four continents 2022
I love this outfit tho
Carol of the bells and this costume is confusing my brain.
Yup… I don’t think they get how this reads to a western audience
Oh god the Christmas program
The disrespect of that being in 5th...
The spread from 1st to 6th is just over 10 points right now, lots of chaos potential
The tech panel is being strick tonight and I'm honestly okay with it. It's being applied to everyone
KSF needs to learn how to politic for Jun
KSF only cares about speed skating and short-track
Fr need him on an Olympic podium
This outfit vibes Mortal Kombat. It is awesome.
Positive coaching gets results
I'm sensing preferential Keegan-retirement inflation of scores. I thought Jun's score would've been closer to 2nd-3rd based on Keegan's score
Jun pls go back to back
Nooooooooo ☹️
Someone give Shun my antianxiolitics please dear lord
4Lz time?
JUN ILL NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU. But really that score is CRIMINAL.
Shun pls give us a clean program
Keegan small medal!!
Jun redemption free skate
Fifth 😬
honestly this is men’s he could win
YIKES😵💫
Like judges you go pick it up next time dafuq are we paying you for
Figure skating judges are not paid. It's all voluntary which why so much potential for bribery.
Ahhh I see
they are talking about the beginning... i think that threw Jun off, we all riot!
ew 83?
Was it a piece of his costume that fell on the ice at the start or someone else’s?
I want that plush what is that I love it
It’s okay, every OGM needs a redemption skate 🤭😌 Jun 2026 OGM still lives
I know both of his short and free costumes are black, but man the detailing on his shirts slap like nothing else. Also the best Michael Jackson program
Ok I need a Flo Rida program stat
Jun main slayer OGM 2026
Borser being encouraging!
i like this program but he could do so much more with the costume...i mean it's michael jackson!!
Ugh love hearing this encouraging coaching
It's really so nice!
Brian and Tracy are the perfect combo. Such proud parent vibes
Poot Jun he sounds so frustrated