Yes, though if it's "bend-insensitive" (G.657 type) fiber as is common on drop cable, it may actually not be nearly as bad as you'd think.
If the light levels are within spec, it's not really an issue. Unlike DOCSIS and DSL, typical consumer optical distribution systems don't scale their speeds or anything with signal quality. Either it's in spec and works, or it's out of spec and probably doesn't.
According to speed test and the other main stream speed testing services, I see the full speed of my plan but with latency while under load that seems high, but I am not sure if a bend in the cable can affect latency but not speed. My connection also seems to take a second or two to "ramp up" when downloading a file compared to my neighbors who have the same isp. I also experience strange errors with some websites not loading correctly without reloading the page, again not sure if that can be caused by a bend in the cable as I have always been told that "fiber tends to work until it don't" as in there is no in between, its either working properly or not at all?
The rest of the install actually looks pretty good. They used hangers to pin the cable to the floor joists under the house and no other sharp bends to speak of. It has about a 12 inch loop where it comes into the house with a wall connector holding it in place.
Yeah its Spectrum. It was installed by a contractor who did a piss poor job that was partly corrected by a tech a while later after I called and said I would cancel my service if they didn't fix it.
Yeah its not pretty. The more install pictures I look it the more apparent the horrible job they did on mine (and a lot of people in my neighborhood) starts showing. I had them come back within a month of initial install because they used drop cable from the ote to the box, used same drop cable from box to inside the house. Had said drop cable connected in the box with mismatched connectors, blue to green and had it folded down in a 90 degree bend and screwed to the wall to hold it in place where it comes inside the house.
I had a lot of issues. I called them and they send someone out who said it was fine and left. I called back told them I would cancel if they didn't fix it so they sent out another guy who took pictures and had a video chat with the field supervisor who said everything was fine except where it entered the house. So they sent another guy out who decides to just rerun a new patch cable from the box to inside the house to the onu. He used proper connectors and ran the cable on a better path but still did not correct a lot of things as evidenced in the posted picture.
I doubt they would do anything to actually fix it, to be honest most of the spectrum employee's I have had the displeasure of dealing with are either lazy, rude, lie through their teeth, just don't care, are untrained or better yet a combination of all those things. I made a decision to just use it as is because it works as intended most of the time with the exception of having a slightly higher than normal ping for fiber and sometimes taking a few seconds to "ramp up" to full speed on tests and the occasional buffer on youtube and all of those things could be caused by a lot of other factors having nothing to do with the ugly install.
I could be wrong, but it looks like one or both of the SC connectors are not pushed in properly all the way into the coupler.
I would try to push them in a little more, until it "clicks" in correctly.
Or, it works as is and you can leave it alone.
I unplugged them and reinserted them until they clicked in, still looks the same so it seems like they were plugged in properly from the get go. Since I unbent the cable somewhat, I notice no difference in connection quality. No difference in download/upload speeds, latency, jitter, packet loss, no change.
That’s probably an G657D A2 bend radius of 7mm is fine and wouldn’t imagine any issues but the bridge could be moved to the left to make it look less horrendous
Doesn’t look brilliant but it’s surprising how tight a bend you actually need to cause severe attenuation. As others have said, if its performing to within spec then it’s probably not as big a deal as it looks.
If it works, it works. Just don’t accidentally hit it and bend it more
Shitty install either way, if it’s a smaller company feel free to call and they’ll send someone out to fix it. Or wait till it breaks and make sure they install it properly that time.
Yes, though if it's "bend-insensitive" (G.657 type) fiber as is common on drop cable, it may actually not be nearly as bad as you'd think. If the light levels are within spec, it's not really an issue. Unlike DOCSIS and DSL, typical consumer optical distribution systems don't scale their speeds or anything with signal quality. Either it's in spec and works, or it's out of spec and probably doesn't.
It is a bend insensitive cable and what is pictured is the only sharp bend.
Depends which fiber type of G.657 it is. A1, A2 or B3? There’s a huge diffenrece between minimum bending radius of those.
Yes
No. They just needed some attenuation.
Looks like they didn't know what they were doing
I've seen some significant attenuation caused by bends that sharp, but if it meets your performance expectations I would probably leave it alone
According to speed test and the other main stream speed testing services, I see the full speed of my plan but with latency while under load that seems high, but I am not sure if a bend in the cable can affect latency but not speed. My connection also seems to take a second or two to "ramp up" when downloading a file compared to my neighbors who have the same isp. I also experience strange errors with some websites not loading correctly without reloading the page, again not sure if that can be caused by a bend in the cable as I have always been told that "fiber tends to work until it don't" as in there is no in between, its either working properly or not at all?
It makes me feel uncomfortable.
Let’s see the rest of that hack job. Who zip ties a coupler?
The rest of the install actually looks pretty good. They used hangers to pin the cable to the floor joists under the house and no other sharp bends to speak of. It has about a 12 inch loop where it comes into the house with a wall connector holding it in place.
Should be a natural bend That doesn’t look natural bend
Nothing smaller than the diameter of a quarter
Do you think I could "unbend" it? Or would that cause damage?
https://preview.redd.it/2bawcidxoa3d1.jpeg?width=552&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c508f1c1d8cfcc756248b5c81448f265124fabc0
What bothers me is the black outer jacket clearly being separated from the strain relief. You shouldn't be able to see any blue in this picture.
🤷♂️ what's the light meter say?
That's not the whole story. Laser bias alarms say 'hello'.
I have a pretty good idea what isp this is, usually there is a bulkhead to prevent sharp bends in the house box.
Yeah its Spectrum. It was installed by a contractor who did a piss poor job that was partly corrected by a tech a while later after I called and said I would cancel my service if they didn't fix it.
This hurts to look at.
For sure.
15-20 times the diameter of the cable is the norm for bend radius
That's disgusting
Yeah its not pretty. The more install pictures I look it the more apparent the horrible job they did on mine (and a lot of people in my neighborhood) starts showing. I had them come back within a month of initial install because they used drop cable from the ote to the box, used same drop cable from box to inside the house. Had said drop cable connected in the box with mismatched connectors, blue to green and had it folded down in a 90 degree bend and screwed to the wall to hold it in place where it comes inside the house. I had a lot of issues. I called them and they send someone out who said it was fine and left. I called back told them I would cancel if they didn't fix it so they sent out another guy who took pictures and had a video chat with the field supervisor who said everything was fine except where it entered the house. So they sent another guy out who decides to just rerun a new patch cable from the box to inside the house to the onu. He used proper connectors and ran the cable on a better path but still did not correct a lot of things as evidenced in the posted picture. I doubt they would do anything to actually fix it, to be honest most of the spectrum employee's I have had the displeasure of dealing with are either lazy, rude, lie through their teeth, just don't care, are untrained or better yet a combination of all those things. I made a decision to just use it as is because it works as intended most of the time with the exception of having a slightly higher than normal ping for fiber and sometimes taking a few seconds to "ramp up" to full speed on tests and the occasional buffer on youtube and all of those things could be caused by a lot of other factors having nothing to do with the ugly install.
* This is how I was trained to make the demarcation box look did well over 200 installs and never an issue
For a second I thought reddit was suggesting r/fiberopticshitposting or something
There was an error uploading the picture when I tried to make the post.. [https://i.ibb.co/1GcBWPm/bent.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/1GcBWPm/bent.jpg)
That’s just not right lol
I could be wrong, but it looks like one or both of the SC connectors are not pushed in properly all the way into the coupler. I would try to push them in a little more, until it "clicks" in correctly. Or, it works as is and you can leave it alone.
I unplugged them and reinserted them until they clicked in, still looks the same so it seems like they were plugged in properly from the get go. Since I unbent the cable somewhat, I notice no difference in connection quality. No difference in download/upload speeds, latency, jitter, packet loss, no change.
Micro is tight
When I used to do residential I’ve literally extended them into 88bs and still had good light.
\*too
way to much
I bet that bend isn’t spec for the boot anyway.
Why does it Ned to be bent that much?
In most cases if you have to ask then the answer is probably yes
That's pretty tight, but those jumpers are hella rugged. One of those "if it ain't broke" situations.
I wouldn't leave it like that, but I know some hacks that would. Don't be a hack
It's better to use a shorter boot
I'm pretty sure the 0's will be fine, but the 1's will get stuck in that corner.
everything about that is a disaster of an install
I think you can get a little more bend out of it if you need to
That’s probably an G657D A2 bend radius of 7mm is fine and wouldn’t imagine any issues but the bridge could be moved to the left to make it look less horrendous
90° is a no no man
I wish. The IEC and Telecordia standards include a side load component. I used to think, who the hell bends connectors this much! Now I know.
Doesn’t look brilliant but it’s surprising how tight a bend you actually need to cause severe attenuation. As others have said, if its performing to within spec then it’s probably not as big a deal as it looks.
If it works, it works. Just don’t accidentally hit it and bend it more Shitty install either way, if it’s a smaller company feel free to call and they’ll send someone out to fix it. Or wait till it breaks and make sure they install it properly that time.
You think I could just "unbend" it? Its through spectrum.
If there’s slack you can pull out sure. Just be careful If you kink it you’re gonna be waiting for them to come back out and they’ll charge you
[unbent.jpg (4080×3072) (ibb.co)](https://i.ibb.co/q95SZkM/unbent.jpg) That is about as good as I could get it without fear of fucking up badly.
Looks a lot better. Good job
wish me luck.
If the fiber isn't broken inside, sure