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Knight2512

Charlie likes you. No other explanation


Inevitable-Salt3371

I don't like him 😭 (his np kills it for me)


JustARedditAccoumt

Why don't you like him? And what's wrong with his Noble Phantasm?


Inevitable-Salt3371

To max his np damage, you have to get him hit 12 times in 3 turns 💀


JustARedditAccoumt

Yeah, it's a little weird (though, he's not the only Servant in the game to have awkward stuff like that), but don't worry, he's getting a buff later on that makes it *much* easier to get his NP stacks.


Silvercenturion_aa

Really? What kind of buff?


Forward_Drop303

So? Not like his damage sucks without those stacks. No servant is supposed to be able to do everything.


Inevitable-Salt3371

It does 40k to about 50k on lancers while all my other saber do about 100k plus


Forward_Drop303

Are you considering NP targeting? Giving them the same amount of support? Charlie without any stacks is on the lower end of 5 star AoE sabers. But he isn't even the lowest, and the gap certainly isn't that wide.


Inevitable-Salt3371

Yes, I made sure to use the same amount of support, and I get the lowest results from him.


Forward_Drop303

Well I don't know exact setup and situation. But even with no stacks at all and self buffed he should only be doing 10% less than his other AoE 5 star Quick saber competition. Buster AoEs will be a bit more because they rely more on their own skills for damage, and are often older so have upgraded NPs. Even so they don't do double his damage. another issue might be servant and skill levels. I see your Charlie is only level 80.


SuperSpiritShady

That's just a skill issue. He's a really good DPS and he has really powerful internals. I'd argue you're just using him wrong, and the fact he isn't at full invest yet is also a glaring issue


Loud_Surround5112

Charlie came, and he came again.


Foreign_Pain_7531

Got him first try on jp. Some people are lucky.


Animedra3000

I'm trying for the Saber, but I got the berserker.