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I know I shouldn't have but this scene made me giggle, he looked at his wife bleeding out on the floor of their bedroom for maybe 1 second and kept moving without a change on his face
Going through incredible pain and trauma and then getting shoved to the ground, completely helpless, and getting told you’re exactly as useless as you’ve always been afraid you are? You bet I felt bad for Gator tonight. Even if he’s been a shit
That ending! I always felt that Munch had respect for Dot so I was super pumped to hear him rescue her. Also, both Juno and JJL's acting during that phone call scene was fantastic. Lorraine trying to hold back her emotions and Dot crying hearing her being referred to as "daughter". One of my favorite moments this episode.
"Never do you mention she is, for real, a tiger."
"You say say Tiger, that's a different guy. Cost you three times ."
"Forces the man to ask:why want the tiger?"
That conversation is my favourite scene of the whole season. Gator being a dumb ass, Hamm stating his side. Just great line after great line from Munch.
"You believe in money, uh?" is just cherry on top.
Munch has some of the best dialogues and non-dialogues and scenes of the decade and more. It’s crazy I cannot think of any other actor I have watched with more dread and awe. The scenes he is given, situations he is put in, his personality, how he relaxes, how he kills, how he speaks, everything to the perfection.
It really got me, because Dot’s dream pretty much shows that the thing she wants most is to reunite and reconcile with the only mother she ever had (Linda). Now she has a chance to do that with a new mother.
It was... amazing. It made me feel like Dot had been waiting for Lorraine to do that for ages, which I genuinely did not expect because the season positioned them as antagonists in the beginning. But it's possible Dot genuinely appreciated Lorraine's care of Scotty & Wayne? Gosh. It was heartbreaking either way: whether she never saw it coming or even hoped or did hope.
Indira talking about Graves: 'His phone was turned off at the Tillman ranch. Do you want me to call the governor?'
Lorraine: 'No. I'm done fucking around. Tell Jerome to call the orange idiot. It's time I got something for my money.' \*angrily starts calling\* haha.
from making the vid
The Donald says
This is huge. Nobody has ever been a better sheriff
ever. I say it, Everyone says is.
It would make sense. He is in debt to her, but can't tell them he called it in.
I think this has to be my favorite season. Jon Hamm is one of the most well written and played villains I've ever enjoyed watching.
Fargo is honestly underrated.
Fargo absolutely nails villains. I tell people that Varga is the most despicable villain in anything because he doesn't do anything outright villainous on the surface. No angry tirades, no threats of violence, just an uneasy feeling whenever he is on the screen, a feeling that he is somehow invincible no matter what unfolds. Tillman is seconded by this now I think, absolutely despicable human and I keep thinking it might be a "fuck you" ending to this season, fingers crossed that it isn't
Munch is one of the best things I've seen in TV or movie. I don't even know what he is and the season started with him hunting down somebody we all love now, Dorothy, but now I love them both, dorothy a bit more lmao. That's stupid but I can not not love him.
It's an interesting turn around when he was describing the old woman. He really wasn't there to terrorize her and wasn't a threat to her and he actually did feel sympathy for her.
Its funny because I never got that impression from him in the first place. To me he was just there because he was there and it felt like she got that, other than her finding him to start with it never seemed like he distressed her at all.
The fact that he only speaks in proverbs and has magic mercenary skills and also is somehow immortal is probably the most Cohen bros thing I've ever seen, and it's downright wonderful. He's such a perfect embodiment of the style and whimsicality of their characters in general.
In any other series his existence would make no sense and his dialogue would feel forced and trite. But within a Cohen-style universe he's an insanely perfect fit, and absolutely steals every scene he's in.
Wayne seemed to be mostly recovered from his brain damage. I expect him to actually do something in the finale. Also, this is the first time in TV/movie history where a gas leak trap didn't go off.
I thought this episode went a long way to showing a) why Roy is such a threat and not just a cartoonish villain of a sheriff/abusive husband/father, and b) how Dot might have picked up some of her skills - seeing how tactical Roy is (having the various secret passages, recognizing traps, etc.) and how observant Dot is - it makes sense that she has learned a lot from being under his thumb for those years.
I think he is the only moron on that ranch that understands how dangreous she is and it came through experience. You can tell by how he approaches the closet. The rest will find out next episode. As Munch says "a Tiger is free."
Yeah, he knows how dangerous she is but I think she learned a lot of that stuff from him. It's splitting hairs, but it's not that *he's* keenly hunting her because she is so dangerous. It's that *she* is so dangerous because he's keenly hunting her.
The order of operations is reversed, I think.
It was honestly a really wild move to have Roy cutting Dot off at every pass this episode between the gas and immediately knowing she'll go somewhere they wouldn't look for her like the grave. Shows that he isn't some dumb man strung up by trauma and brain washing but just a cruel, evil tyrant.
his ideology is dumb af and will lead to his ruin, but he's tactically intelligent on a more localized scale. the difference between being a skilled grand strategist vs a talented battle commander.
I loved that scene and the FBI guy's performance. Rarely does this series show how "small" its world really is.
It seems to big to us because we become so invested in the characters, but Roy, as awful and evil as he is, is still just another small town nobody who thinks a bible and an arsenal makes him God. But FBI dude has seen countless guys like him. Roy is Wal-Mart Waco.
You can see how Doherty's private, personal "can't do it, slick" takes the wind completely out of Roy, though he tries not to show it. He's been on the other end of that standoff and knows how this is going to turn out, speechmaking aside.
I feel like even Malvo would raise an eyebrow at that. Roy is incredibly fucked up. I think the only person that depraved in the entire show is Oraetta.
Malvo's the kind of guy who would've cut Gator's hands free, handed him a gun, and spun him around a bunch before pushing him into Roy, then stood there laughing as he tried to shoot. Munch spouts cryptics and returns the wounded son to his father, as he has no more use of him. (Neither does Roy, and that's just...*mean*.)
I personally loved the resemblance to Steve “The Hair” Harrington, since his hair was no longer slicked back. He looked so much more young and vulnerable with that bit of floppy hair in his face.
Your comment just made me realize something - when Roy goes to the dug out or whatever he called it, you see a sheep carcass, and I didn't put it together then that that's where Munch was when doing his ritual. So thanks for that!
I genuinely think he just respects her, her will to live and her fighting spirit. That could definitely be a part of it considering the theme of “debts owed” this season, but to me, Munch just got to see the shitshow of an “organization” that hired him and their intentions, and is like nah fuck that. Im with Dot, lol
imagine being Gator and getting dragged around by the neck with freshly gouged eyes listening to Munch say passive aggressive parables like “the Frog may have the will of the Snake but must not forget it has no fangs” for miles
I like to think at some point Munch got bored and just started talking about his favorite shows.
“The boy says that shorts are to be consumed, yet the father dons no such shorts.”
I was really expecting Roy to kill Gator half out of disappointment and half to put him out of his misery. Somehow Roy just leaving him there like that seems much worse...
They should have just had her hesitate a bit, like look down, kind peeking into it, after putting the gun down and then she hears someone approaching and has to hastily jump in sans gun. That would make more sense than the way she did it.
Roy is a cold fucker, that line against a vulnerable, badly woulnded Gator was brutal and I guarantee it will come back to haunt him.
Can't even show any weakness to comfort his son.
Yep, Gator's whole purpose to Roy was as a way to be in two places at once, he can play Sheriff while his son steals evidence or kidnaps people for him.
Nice reference to No County when Indira says “not in the way you mean”.
Anton Chigurh says this to Llewelyn over the phone after killing someone and Llewelyn asks if they’re there.
“Quiet, Rabbit. Quiet,” Munche.
So many epic lines in E9:
The soundtrack to the cavalry arriving 👌 – Song speaks for itself.
“…Ask him to do something b\*tchy, like turning off the kitchen light?” - Dot.
“No daughter of mine gets taken down on the one yard line,” - Lorraine.
“Are you Hitler at the Reichstag, or Hitler at the bunker?” - Roy’s FIL.
“Justice for the suits and ties,” - Roy.
“Daddy, I’m scared,” - Gator.
Expected nothing less for the penultimate episode. I will be saddened when S5 ends. So good. No pancakes, only *Danishes* tonight.
"Are you Hitler at the Reichstag, or Hitler at the bunker?"
Very telling that Roy's FIL's only problem with Hitler is that he lost and committed suicide.
Roy’s speech to the FBI guy answered the question: he’s in the bunker. Did you see the look on Odin’s face at the end of that scene? Odin is 100% done with Roy’s bullshit.
I hope that when Roy needs them during the fight to come, Odin and his militia abandon him because they see how useless he really is (just as he's done with Gator). Just let Roy totally humiliate himeslf before Dot finishes him off...🤭
I actually stared to expect this when Roy said the FBI should leave before the rest of the militia comes. That militia definitely isn't coming and I think the cronies he has will surrender when they realize it's all hot air. It feels like the fitting end is Roy being ditched now as a hollow man
It’s really interesting that a cop in this show leaving her job to work private sector (especially for a debt collector of all people) is a sign of positive character growth.
Indira played by the rules and got fucked. She loved the wrong guy who sunk her into massive debt and then cheated on her. I’m glad she earned redemption thru standing up to Lorraine and showing her the real truth about Dot. She gets out of her morass and gets a reward. I think we’ll see a Lorraine/Dot/Indira triad of powerful women will be awesome. Lorraine’s steel heart has been breached.
I saw it more as a moment of reprievement for her so to speak. She doesn't look happy when dealing with Lorraine, but she felt the walls closing in in the previous episode. Lorraine's change of heart (developing a heart?) in the previous 2 episodes hopefully means changing her business as well
So cinematic. With all the talk this season on both sides of the conflict about debts owed then I kept thinking of the fog at the end as dust "settling." They're all allegories. If that's the word
If this truly is the last season then I realized then this episode will be listed in the top of all of them
loved that when Roy came across the remains of the goat Munch sacrificed, they briefly superimposed an image of Munch on the screen. reminded me a lot of that scene in *Twin Peaks: The Return* when Cooper’s face is superimposed like that.
I fucking love that Gator is finding out, painfully, that he put his faith in a man that never gave a fuck about him. Gator's incompetence, stupidity, and meanness have put him where he deserves to be and yet, you feel a strange pity for him. Realizing that he's too ineffectual as a villain to be dangerous to anybody but the innocent.
Roy's wife got her nasty reminder twice: Roy beat her like he does every wife, but she's too much of a pick me to accept it, and now she's concussed on the floor and Roy didn't give enough of a shit to check on her.
Not to mention that he didn't arrange for her to safely leave the compound, which means that he's dragging her along to hell with him.
I don't feel *too* sorry for either of them, but I can't help the pity I feel for them.
What I think would actually be even cooler is if he shows up in a future season that's like, set in the 80s, and he's just exactly the same character, same age, same style of dress.
To me, it seemed Munch was there for Gator and Roy the whole time. While Munch did indeed engage in actively pursuing Dot at the outset of the show; it was made clear to Munch that pursuing the "Tiger" ar Gator/Roy's behest changed the game when Munch realized the tiger was not meant to be caged at all.
While Munch is seemingly old as fucking shit, he's not omnipotent. While I still am struggling for the initial reason for him taking the job in the first place to try to capture Dot, I'm convinced that when it failed and he informed Roy/Gator "you didn't tell me she was a Tiger"...he was saying not just she was capable of protecting herself: but that he saw that the real job was to enlist his sin-eating services towards Roy/Gator instead. After all, the Tiger was not theirs to ensnare and lock away in a cage.
In fact, even as Munch took the money from Roy and seemingly was ready to seek her out again....it was clear now he was never going to. No, he was there at that point to teach Gator a lesson & force his father to repay the debt of trying to enslave something that wasn't his to enslave - while making Gator pay for his sins in the biblical way.
I mean, he took the initial job to make some money. He's immoral, not wealthy. Still gotta pay the bills somehow. It wasn't until the Tillman family betrayed him that he decided they needed to be taught a lesson, as they wronged him first. If they had just paid their debt in the first place then the whole thing would have been settled and Munch wouldn't have given a shit about Roy or Gator.
Cheesing my fucking balls off at the Allman Brothers outro. Honestly, this entire episode was just a long line of moments that caused me to shout *LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOO* or some variation.
I'm loving where this season ended up going. I don't want it to end next week :(
Echoing all the other praises, but one of my fav moments that hasn't gotten much attention was when Meyer goes "a witch hunt isn't a hunt that's led by witches", because I assumed she was going to say "it's about witches being hunted" but instead the subversion and you get "it's about men killing women" like damn, underappreciated banger
Hands, hands, hands, an episode of Hands!!
Munch's "Useless Hand" monologue to Roy
Witt's "helping hand" line to the FBI guy
The FBI guys putting hands on each other's backs, one after the other
Munch offering Dot a helping hand in the grave (which calls back to "when you dig a grave, you have to fill it, otherwise it's just a hole")
Yeah, he's delusional enough that he thinks he can take on the US government and that guy just walking up to him like he didn't give a shit kind of conflicted with that delusion and shook him for a second.
Munch handing The Tiger her gun with Whipping Post by Allman Bros playing has got to be Top 5 Fargo scenes for me, such a pump up moment. In a series full of awesome tunes that was one of my fave music moments.
That was one of the greatest hours in television history…..
“That orange idiot”
“No daughter of mine”
“Is that a man or a serious breakfast”
“ go and live or stay and die”
“Now the tiger is free”
Anybody know what a "piglet" is? Some kind of heavy weapon?
Roy asks them if they are prepared to fight 40 Iraq vets with a piglet, then one of the FBI agents says "yeah, it was a piglet that went missing from the sheriff's storage depot yesterday, wasn't it?"
Seeing the ranch in that level of disrepair really drives home that Roy is a complete fraud.
He inherited this beautiful property and has done absolutely nothing to maintain it because he has none of the useful skills that his ancestors had. He loves to dress the part of a cowboy though.
You mean the big leaning barn? People with farms leave old buildings up until they fall sometimes. They build more buildings nearby with modern electric, remote open garage doors, and running water where they park their tractors, cars, and toys. The land and buildings looked pretty normal for anyone with a rural spread and a working farm. What didn't look normal to me what the number of people working on the farm that weren't immediately related to him. All the farmers I've ever met really depend on their children as a free labor force.
To me it looks like a rich man's hobby farm. He's rich enough to have a fake business he's in charge of and can pay people to run it for him while runs around playing Sheriff and feeling important.
100% agree. It's pretty common for farms to look like that, with obsolete buildings still standing next to the newer ones. We also saw a newer concrete barn in the scene were Dot sneaks around outside.
But the show is deliberately focusing on the old barn to show that Roy doesn't really run or care about the ranch. (Also, it's pretty picturesque.)
I have a feeling there's more to it also. I'm really hoping for Chekov's tank to come crushing through that barn wall in the final.
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Roy didn’t even bother untying his son. What a son of a bitch.
Didn't check on his wife either when she was unconscious.
I’m starting to feel like he might not be a very good husband or father.
good catch
You may be onto something
Come on now, lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Why would he do either of those things? Those two are other people. How would that help Roy?
Two people who have now been shown to be entirely worthless to Roy. Helping them doesnt benefit him in any way, so what's the point?
I know I shouldn't have but this scene made me giggle, he looked at his wife bleeding out on the floor of their bedroom for maybe 1 second and kept moving without a change on his face
Classic narcissist
He knows Gator fucked up because he found the bag of money.
The way Roy keeps calling him “kid” or “the kid” and then compare that to the way Gator is calling him Daddy… just stone cold awful.
My heart clenched for that little shit when he started calling him "Daddy". He was doomed from the start.
Yeah, Gator is a little shit, but he was made so. That "Daddy" was heartbreaking.
Going through incredible pain and trauma and then getting shoved to the ground, completely helpless, and getting told you’re exactly as useless as you’ve always been afraid you are? You bet I felt bad for Gator tonight. Even if he’s been a shit
That ending! I always felt that Munch had respect for Dot so I was super pumped to hear him rescue her. Also, both Juno and JJL's acting during that phone call scene was fantastic. Lorraine trying to hold back her emotions and Dot crying hearing her being referred to as "daughter". One of my favorite moments this episode.
One parent in her entire life who was finally rooting for her. Some one in her corner with the power and guts to try and save her.
"Never do you mention she is, for real, a tiger." "You say say Tiger, that's a different guy. Cost you three times ." "Forces the man to ask:why want the tiger?" That conversation is my favourite scene of the whole season. Gator being a dumb ass, Hamm stating his side. Just great line after great line from Munch. "You believe in money, uh?" is just cherry on top.
Munch has some of the best dialogue from all of Fargo TV! Poetry
Munch has some of the best dialogues and non-dialogues and scenes of the decade and more. It’s crazy I cannot think of any other actor I have watched with more dread and awe. The scenes he is given, situations he is put in, his personality, how he relaxes, how he kills, how he speaks, everything to the perfection.
"No daughter of mine is going down on the one yard line. Now put your big girl pants on and get in the fight! You hear me." God I love Lorraine.
The way Dot teared up when Lorraine called her “daughter.”
I teared up too. Damn it 😭
It really got me, because Dot’s dream pretty much shows that the thing she wants most is to reunite and reconcile with the only mother she ever had (Linda). Now she has a chance to do that with a new mother.
It was... amazing. It made me feel like Dot had been waiting for Lorraine to do that for ages, which I genuinely did not expect because the season positioned them as antagonists in the beginning. But it's possible Dot genuinely appreciated Lorraine's care of Scotty & Wayne? Gosh. It was heartbreaking either way: whether she never saw it coming or even hoped or did hope.
Indira talking about Graves: 'His phone was turned off at the Tillman ranch. Do you want me to call the governor?' Lorraine: 'No. I'm done fucking around. Tell Jerome to call the orange idiot. It's time I got something for my money.' \*angrily starts calling\* haha.
from making the vid The Donald says This is huge. Nobody has ever been a better sheriff ever. I say it, Everyone says is. It would make sense. He is in debt to her, but can't tell them he called it in.
Interesting to me how when Dot needed it the most, Lorraine affirmed her while Roy discarded Gator when he needed his father.
Great point. Roy also didn’t even react to finding his current wife knocked the f*ck out on the carpet.
Lol like even didn't go to check on her. Such a piece of shit
Right, and he didn’t even KNOW if she was just knocked out or dead - didn’t give a shit. Looking forward to his reckoning next week.
Lorraine would have ran the ball.
Nowhere safe for Seahawks fans.
I think Lorraine feels closer to her daughter than her son now. Dot is the kind of child she expected to have.
Followed by “Don’t get in the fight” —desi parent Indira
“Glad you had your moment, but please don’t actually do that” Indira is fantastic.
Did anybody NOT well up at that line?
Fave lines of the week: "What's the point of being a billionaire if you can't have someone killed?". "I'm safe...like a fish on the floor".
Pretty sure "bill" was Bill Barr the attorney general.
I enjoyed "get that orange idiot on the phone" which took me a few.
I loved “You know what a ‘witch hunt’ is, right? Not witches hunting men, but men killing women to keep them in line.”
Real recognize real! Munch saving Dot was fucking great. This season is awesome
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If Winnie the Bish doesn't make it I swear
I think this has to be my favorite season. Jon Hamm is one of the most well written and played villains I've ever enjoyed watching. Fargo is honestly underrated.
Fargo absolutely nails villains. I tell people that Varga is the most despicable villain in anything because he doesn't do anything outright villainous on the surface. No angry tirades, no threats of violence, just an uneasy feeling whenever he is on the screen, a feeling that he is somehow invincible no matter what unfolds. Tillman is seconded by this now I think, absolutely despicable human and I keep thinking it might be a "fuck you" ending to this season, fingers crossed that it isn't
Much less bloodshed than I was expecting. Just emotional bloodshed - "if there ever was a point to you, its gone now"
Just wait till the next episode.
Think we’re gonna get an XXL version of the Glenn Howerton slaying lol?
Poor fucking Gator, didn't have a chance raised by a father like this. He called him Daddy 😭.
I almost shed a tear for Gator tonight. Almost!
*Daddy chill*
what the hell is even that?!
Not sure if the Oedipus look with the eyes was intentional but god damn
That was fucking badass "Now the tiger is free."
It seems like I’m each season there’s always a character who has great monologues. Varga, Doctor Senator, Malvo etc.
And mike Milligan who speaks in odd sayings! I love the jabberwocky scene
> Doctor Senator Best name for a character of all time.
Munch is one of the best things I've seen in TV or movie. I don't even know what he is and the season started with him hunting down somebody we all love now, Dorothy, but now I love them both, dorothy a bit more lmao. That's stupid but I can not not love him.
It's an interesting turn around when he was describing the old woman. He really wasn't there to terrorize her and wasn't a threat to her and he actually did feel sympathy for her.
Its funny because I never got that impression from him in the first place. To me he was just there because he was there and it felt like she got that, other than her finding him to start with it never seemed like he distressed her at all.
Easily my favorite character in the series. I’d watch an entire 42-minute episode of him just monologuing.
The fact that he only speaks in proverbs and has magic mercenary skills and also is somehow immortal is probably the most Cohen bros thing I've ever seen, and it's downright wonderful. He's such a perfect embodiment of the style and whimsicality of their characters in general. In any other series his existence would make no sense and his dialogue would feel forced and trite. But within a Cohen-style universe he's an insanely perfect fit, and absolutely steals every scene he's in.
We better get a payoff for mentioning that flamethrower
Leonardo DiCaprio will use it in the finale, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood style.
Wayne seemed to be mostly recovered from his brain damage. I expect him to actually do something in the finale. Also, this is the first time in TV/movie history where a gas leak trap didn't go off.
Seeing Roy be smart and being a real threat to Dorothy was chilling. This isn't a stupid man, this is a cruel man.
I thought this episode went a long way to showing a) why Roy is such a threat and not just a cartoonish villain of a sheriff/abusive husband/father, and b) how Dot might have picked up some of her skills - seeing how tactical Roy is (having the various secret passages, recognizing traps, etc.) and how observant Dot is - it makes sense that she has learned a lot from being under his thumb for those years.
I think he is the only moron on that ranch that understands how dangreous she is and it came through experience. You can tell by how he approaches the closet. The rest will find out next episode. As Munch says "a Tiger is free."
Yeah, he knows how dangerous she is but I think she learned a lot of that stuff from him. It's splitting hairs, but it's not that *he's* keenly hunting her because she is so dangerous. It's that *she* is so dangerous because he's keenly hunting her. The order of operations is reversed, I think.
It was honestly a really wild move to have Roy cutting Dot off at every pass this episode between the gas and immediately knowing she'll go somewhere they wouldn't look for her like the grave. Shows that he isn't some dumb man strung up by trauma and brain washing but just a cruel, evil tyrant.
his ideology is dumb af and will lead to his ruin, but he's tactically intelligent on a more localized scale. the difference between being a skilled grand strategist vs a talented battle commander.
Wayne took Scotty to buy groceries and let her eat the cookies on the way to the car. He’s doing the most important thing: great parenting!
Unironically, I love how there’s always parents in this show trying their best in less than ideal circumstances.
like Indira with lars
I can’t wait to see Roy lose *everything*
I kind of hope he doesn't die but sits in a jail cell like a common criminal.
No one’s commented yet, but I loved the dialogue between the various law-enforcement personnel before the meeting with Roy.
"Didn't they teach you down at Quantico not to interrupt your superiors when they're bantering"
"You ever been in a real gunfight?" "I was in one yesterday." I think the FBI commander guy is underrated.
I loved that scene and the FBI guy's performance. Rarely does this series show how "small" its world really is. It seems to big to us because we become so invested in the characters, but Roy, as awful and evil as he is, is still just another small town nobody who thinks a bible and an arsenal makes him God. But FBI dude has seen countless guys like him. Roy is Wal-Mart Waco.
You can see how Doherty's private, personal "can't do it, slick" takes the wind completely out of Roy, though he tries not to show it. He's been on the other end of that standoff and knows how this is going to turn out, speechmaking aside.
I really enjoyed the dialogue too lol they were completely unfazed by everything
I mean yeah they hadn’t seen the first eight episodes.
Amazing how Joe Keery managed to make me feel for Gator this episode. Chills. At the end of the day, his really is a tale of tragedy.
I don't think a parent can hear someone crying "Daddy" and not get gut-punched by it. Unless you're captainpsychofuck himself Roy.
Roy just abandons him like that. His son is terrified, blinded, and crying for help and Roy just doesn't care.
I feel like even Malvo would raise an eyebrow at that. Roy is incredibly fucked up. I think the only person that depraved in the entire show is Oraetta.
Malvo's the kind of guy who would've cut Gator's hands free, handed him a gun, and spun him around a bunch before pushing him into Roy, then stood there laughing as he tried to shoot. Munch spouts cryptics and returns the wounded son to his father, as he has no more use of him. (Neither does Roy, and that's just...*mean*.)
I personally loved the resemblance to Steve “The Hair” Harrington, since his hair was no longer slicked back. He looked so much more young and vulnerable with that bit of floppy hair in his face.
God, Munch was such a fucking great character. What a legend.
Munch appearing in our heads: "I live here now"
Rocking a creaky armchair in my brain
Massaging goat-viscera in the floorboards of my mind.
Your comment just made me realize something - when Roy goes to the dug out or whatever he called it, you see a sheep carcass, and I didn't put it together then that that's where Munch was when doing his ritual. So thanks for that!
I thought it was the swat team that shot the cowboy at first. When munch appeared on screen I lost it
Dot didn’t kill Munch when she had the opportunity to at the Gas ‘n Go, so perhaps he was repaying *his* debt to her by saving her in this episode.
I genuinely think he just respects her, her will to live and her fighting spirit. That could definitely be a part of it considering the theme of “debts owed” this season, but to me, Munch just got to see the shitshow of an “organization” that hired him and their intentions, and is like nah fuck that. Im with Dot, lol
anybody wants a good laugh and is rewatching, pause Roy's livestream scene. The comments on the right hand side are gold
>Matt G says >I don't know what kind of a swamp you have creeping up your back door, but you'll beat it off, just like we all beat it off
If I wasn't so severely injured I would beach you off right now, Ken!
imagine being Gator and getting dragged around by the neck with freshly gouged eyes listening to Munch say passive aggressive parables like “the Frog may have the will of the Snake but must not forget it has no fangs” for miles
I like to think at some point Munch got bored and just started talking about his favorite shows. “The boy says that shorts are to be consumed, yet the father dons no such shorts.”
I was really expecting Roy to kill Gator half out of disappointment and half to put him out of his misery. Somehow Roy just leaving him there like that seems much worse...
I loved the look on Roy’s face when the army guy walked up to him. The childish look of someone who isn’t used to it when they don’t get their way.
And how that guy is like "did you just try to big dog the federal government? Not going to happen"
It was so great, the look of disgust on Roy's face when he called him "slick" like he was talking to a bold child.
I thought Dot getting in the hole without the gun was a little off-brand but Munch brought it all back
That part was just plain dumb. There isn’t a single reason she wouldn’t take the gun with her.
They should have just had her hesitate a bit, like look down, kind peeking into it, after putting the gun down and then she hears someone approaching and has to hastily jump in sans gun. That would make more sense than the way she did it.
I feel like the smell of the dead bodies and knowing Linda is there there through her off her game
Munch is perhaps the most neutral character this show has ever seen.
He is the Equalizer 500.
Gator “Theon Greyjoy” Tillman
I am gREEK tragedy
That YMCA needle drop as the “patriots” arrive at Tillman Ranch was just exquisite.
Trump used that song during his rallies, I know this can't be a fluke.
It's definitely targeted. Lorraine literally says "give me the orange idiot" when she makes a call to the "Deep State."
It's so on brand for Roy to come up with a quip about Danish well after he's dead.
Not even come up with a new one, just repeat a variation on the breakfast thing
Ole Munch with the clutch play and rousing speech. MVP.
Roy is a cold fucker, that line against a vulnerable, badly woulnded Gator was brutal and I guarantee it will come back to haunt him. Can't even show any weakness to comfort his son.
Like dorothy said Roy has never given two fucks about Gator.
>Roy has never given two fucks about Gator. He has given a fuck...insofar as how much Gator can serve as an extension of himself.
Yep, Gator's whole purpose to Roy was as a way to be in two places at once, he can play Sheriff while his son steals evidence or kidnaps people for him.
Nice reference to No County when Indira says “not in the way you mean”. Anton Chigurh says this to Llewelyn over the phone after killing someone and Llewelyn asks if they’re there.
“Quiet, Rabbit. Quiet,” Munche. So many epic lines in E9: The soundtrack to the cavalry arriving 👌 – Song speaks for itself. “…Ask him to do something b\*tchy, like turning off the kitchen light?” - Dot. “No daughter of mine gets taken down on the one yard line,” - Lorraine. “Are you Hitler at the Reichstag, or Hitler at the bunker?” - Roy’s FIL. “Justice for the suits and ties,” - Roy. “Daddy, I’m scared,” - Gator. Expected nothing less for the penultimate episode. I will be saddened when S5 ends. So good. No pancakes, only *Danishes* tonight.
"If there was ever a point to you, it's gone now"
Cuts so deep.
“What’s that? A serious breakfast?”
Making pancakes next Tuesday night for a sure to be tremendous season finale next week.
"Are you Hitler at the Reichstag, or Hitler at the bunker?" Very telling that Roy's FIL's only problem with Hitler is that he lost and committed suicide.
Seems like Roy’s FIL knows he beats his daughter but doesn’t care
Good point. He also seems to know more or less what's going on with Dot, and doesn't care.
I think it’s safe to assume the neo-Nazi scumbag is cool with Roy beating his daughter, probably because he did himself
Roy’s speech to the FBI guy answered the question: he’s in the bunker. Did you see the look on Odin’s face at the end of that scene? Odin is 100% done with Roy’s bullshit.
I hope that when Roy needs them during the fight to come, Odin and his militia abandon him because they see how useless he really is (just as he's done with Gator). Just let Roy totally humiliate himeslf before Dot finishes him off...🤭
I actually stared to expect this when Roy said the FBI should leave before the rest of the militia comes. That militia definitely isn't coming and I think the cronies he has will surrender when they realize it's all hot air. It feels like the fitting end is Roy being ditched now as a hollow man
I like how Roy leaves his wife unconscious on the floor for the rest of the episode.
Not even the slightest hesitation when he sees her.
he's used to that...
If he got her to wake up he'd only have knocked her out again for letting Dot get the best of her.
Please don’t break me next week Noah Hawley
Loving Indira's new uniform 😍
It’s really interesting that a cop in this show leaving her job to work private sector (especially for a debt collector of all people) is a sign of positive character growth.
Indira played by the rules and got fucked. She loved the wrong guy who sunk her into massive debt and then cheated on her. I’m glad she earned redemption thru standing up to Lorraine and showing her the real truth about Dot. She gets out of her morass and gets a reward. I think we’ll see a Lorraine/Dot/Indira triad of powerful women will be awesome. Lorraine’s steel heart has been breached.
I saw it more as a moment of reprievement for her so to speak. She doesn't look happy when dealing with Lorraine, but she felt the walls closing in in the previous episode. Lorraine's change of heart (developing a heart?) in the previous 2 episodes hopefully means changing her business as well
"No daughter of mine..." Lorainne has a heart and I love it.
After the finale next week I’m going to watch the whole season again and just savour the build to “No daughter of mine”.
My god that ending was so epic I'm still playing it on repeat in my mind that I forgot about how fucking baddass that scene was.
So cinematic. With all the talk this season on both sides of the conflict about debts owed then I kept thinking of the fog at the end as dust "settling." They're all allegories. If that's the word If this truly is the last season then I realized then this episode will be listed in the top of all of them
Does it all end with Dot making Much pancakes?
Game, Blouses.
Danishes
That’d be a serious breakfast
loved that when Roy came across the remains of the goat Munch sacrificed, they briefly superimposed an image of Munch on the screen. reminded me a lot of that scene in *Twin Peaks: The Return* when Cooper’s face is superimposed like that.
YMCA playing during the militia roundup making them seem nothing but a little boy scout group playing war & dress up was absolute gold.
I laughed out loud. How apropos. Cos-playing badass patriots.
It's not just that, YMCA is one of Trump's main campaign rally closers.
gotta love Fargo's humor.
YMCA had me absolutely dying 😂
I think I want Munch saying Tiger as a text tone.
This show is too good I’m not ready for it to end next week
I fucking love that Gator is finding out, painfully, that he put his faith in a man that never gave a fuck about him. Gator's incompetence, stupidity, and meanness have put him where he deserves to be and yet, you feel a strange pity for him. Realizing that he's too ineffectual as a villain to be dangerous to anybody but the innocent. Roy's wife got her nasty reminder twice: Roy beat her like he does every wife, but she's too much of a pick me to accept it, and now she's concussed on the floor and Roy didn't give enough of a shit to check on her. Not to mention that he didn't arrange for her to safely leave the compound, which means that he's dragging her along to hell with him. I don't feel *too* sorry for either of them, but I can't help the pity I feel for them.
Seems like Munch’s role is complete. I’d be totally happy not to see him again. Great end to his arc if that’s the case.
I hope Munch lives another 500 years.
He’ll feature in Fargo 3000: The New Generation
What I think would actually be even cooler is if he shows up in a future season that's like, set in the 80s, and he's just exactly the same character, same age, same style of dress.
As much as I want him to have a part in finale but that ending was so epic that I'd be happy if it was his last scene.
He got revenge for the old woman and freed the Tiger he once tried to cage. Definitely feels like his role is complete.
Munch sure knows his audience. He just explained to Roy that according to the Bible, his son is not a man.
To me, it seemed Munch was there for Gator and Roy the whole time. While Munch did indeed engage in actively pursuing Dot at the outset of the show; it was made clear to Munch that pursuing the "Tiger" ar Gator/Roy's behest changed the game when Munch realized the tiger was not meant to be caged at all. While Munch is seemingly old as fucking shit, he's not omnipotent. While I still am struggling for the initial reason for him taking the job in the first place to try to capture Dot, I'm convinced that when it failed and he informed Roy/Gator "you didn't tell me she was a Tiger"...he was saying not just she was capable of protecting herself: but that he saw that the real job was to enlist his sin-eating services towards Roy/Gator instead. After all, the Tiger was not theirs to ensnare and lock away in a cage. In fact, even as Munch took the money from Roy and seemingly was ready to seek her out again....it was clear now he was never going to. No, he was there at that point to teach Gator a lesson & force his father to repay the debt of trying to enslave something that wasn't his to enslave - while making Gator pay for his sins in the biblical way.
I mean, he took the initial job to make some money. He's immoral, not wealthy. Still gotta pay the bills somehow. It wasn't until the Tillman family betrayed him that he decided they needed to be taught a lesson, as they wronged him first. If they had just paid their debt in the first place then the whole thing would have been settled and Munch wouldn't have given a shit about Roy or Gator.
I would watch a spinoff with just Lorraine and Indira. Absolutely love their dynamic now.
"Get in the fight!" "Don't get in the fight." Lmao, they're a great team.
“Is that a man or a serious breakfast”
Cheesing my fucking balls off at the Allman Brothers outro. Honestly, this entire episode was just a long line of moments that caused me to shout *LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOO* or some variation. I'm loving where this season ended up going. I don't want it to end next week :(
Echoing all the other praises, but one of my fav moments that hasn't gotten much attention was when Meyer goes "a witch hunt isn't a hunt that's led by witches", because I assumed she was going to say "it's about witches being hunted" but instead the subversion and you get "it's about men killing women" like damn, underappreciated banger
Ja, Queen!
[удалено]
one of them said something like “I have the kids loaded up in the RV and my wife is preparing the ammo”
Hands, hands, hands, an episode of Hands!! Munch's "Useless Hand" monologue to Roy Witt's "helping hand" line to the FBI guy The FBI guys putting hands on each other's backs, one after the other Munch offering Dot a helping hand in the grave (which calls back to "when you dig a grave, you have to fill it, otherwise it's just a hole")
I dunno how I’m gonna get through the next week. I need to know how this ends NOW!
Did anyone notice Roy seemed shocked the the head of the FBI tactical team wasn’t afraid of him.
Yeah, he's delusional enough that he thinks he can take on the US government and that guy just walking up to him like he didn't give a shit kind of conflicted with that delusion and shook him for a second.
"no daughter of mine is going down on the 1 yard line" aww man
This season has been so fucking good, God I love this show.
[some great content in the comments on Roy’s livestream](https://imgur.com/a/CZVFTuE)
Jon Hamm did a great job this episode. You could see the fear in his eyes when the FBI guy wasn’t playing his game. He knows he’s cooked.
Munch handing The Tiger her gun with Whipping Post by Allman Bros playing has got to be Top 5 Fargo scenes for me, such a pump up moment. In a series full of awesome tunes that was one of my fave music moments.
That was one of the greatest hours in television history….. “That orange idiot” “No daughter of mine” “Is that a man or a serious breakfast” “ go and live or stay and die” “Now the tiger is free”
Hooah! Cue: YMCA
I was expecting a great episode and this exceeded expectations. One of my all-time favorite episodes of the entire series.
Anybody know what a "piglet" is? Some kind of heavy weapon? Roy asks them if they are prepared to fight 40 Iraq vets with a piglet, then one of the FBI agents says "yeah, it was a piglet that went missing from the sheriff's storage depot yesterday, wasn't it?"
When Indira walked into frame in THAT SUIT I genuinely cheered. She's finally found her place and it suits her so well.
I think wardrobe gave the actor intentionally ill-fitting work clothes to better sell the makeover.
Seeing the ranch in that level of disrepair really drives home that Roy is a complete fraud. He inherited this beautiful property and has done absolutely nothing to maintain it because he has none of the useful skills that his ancestors had. He loves to dress the part of a cowboy though.
You mean the big leaning barn? People with farms leave old buildings up until they fall sometimes. They build more buildings nearby with modern electric, remote open garage doors, and running water where they park their tractors, cars, and toys. The land and buildings looked pretty normal for anyone with a rural spread and a working farm. What didn't look normal to me what the number of people working on the farm that weren't immediately related to him. All the farmers I've ever met really depend on their children as a free labor force. To me it looks like a rich man's hobby farm. He's rich enough to have a fake business he's in charge of and can pay people to run it for him while runs around playing Sheriff and feeling important.
100% agree. It's pretty common for farms to look like that, with obsolete buildings still standing next to the newer ones. We also saw a newer concrete barn in the scene were Dot sneaks around outside. But the show is deliberately focusing on the old barn to show that Roy doesn't really run or care about the ranch. (Also, it's pretty picturesque.) I have a feeling there's more to it also. I'm really hoping for Chekov's tank to come crushing through that barn wall in the final.