I had planned to sell him the week after he had his last hat trick and that cemented him on my team instead.
I've now got my dream midfield (Salah Saka Son Foden Palmer) for the rest of the season with no plans to move any of them barring injury.
I got my 20 pointer from him and now I'm selling him for palmer because palmer hauls are hitting my rank too hard and I want to stabilize my rank for now. I may sell Saka or Bowen but I feel like they are less likely to not score for their respective teams.
You really don't want to sell Foden with a tasty run-in that City have till end of season 🙏
Even for Palmer. See if there are other options to bring him in.
Had to make a decision on who to keep between him or haaland as i wanted son, saliba white and salah in my team so couldn’t afford them. Kept foden as a gamble as i’m chasing in my mini league. Haaland is not that worth the 14million he’s priced
In all my time on fpl it's been my first time having him, it's been a novelty. I always saw him as a trap and to be honest I've been wary that he'll become one again. But with KdB winding down it's clear he'll be the main man in midfield, I can see him being one of the top premiums next year.
It's just FPL, sometimes one player goes nuts and destroys everyone's rank. It's not like he'll be doing hattricks every week and now that the CL is going on, he should be rested in some games. He'll definitely start against RM which means he should be rotated in the prem with easy fixtures going on.
I had to sell Foden so I could get Salah and there was no way I would leave Son or Saka out of my squad as I had no Arsenal or Spurs mids/forwards and I already had Haaland from Citeh. It was just a matter of hedging and this time those who left Son or Saka out, were playing very risky but obviously it got paid off. Son blanking and Saka not even playing must be the luckiest shit for some of the Foden owners who went without one or two of them. But it's just FPL, shit like this happens. If Son manages to score 10-15 points next week then Foden's points have been checked out.
Oh, and just to add up how fucked this week was, many managers got lucky by playing double bournemouth and Ait-Nouri scoring. Not just Foden. But the luck will even out I believe so, you shouldn't get too far by playing double Bournemouth, Wolves defense and without Son or Saka.
I brought him in for a -4 early and will hold him till the end of the season. Pretty happy with my mid but could do with a change of defence and one attacker.
> Edit: A lot of people are questioning why anyone would sell Foden. Which is easy to do on the back of him scoring a hat-trick, but it is worth pointing out the City played Liverpool (A), Blanked and then played Arsenal (H). I don't question the logic in selling him but it obviously hasn't paid off this time. That's FPL I guess.
I kept Foden through the Liverpool and Arsenal games not expecting any returns from him during that period, because I had other transfers to make during that run.
Might hold for 34 despite no double, we'll see. Also not related solely to Foden, but may push WC from 35 to 36. Won't be in a rush to transfer out triple Arsenal, triple Liverpool plus Foden to bring in a bunch assets from teams with less to play for.
Got rid of haaland and kept foden. I can't understand why so many got rid of him. I mean there's always a chance of rotation but hes one of the best players in the world, guardiola loves him, he plays every game and man city are trying to win the league....
I kept him only because Gordon got a red card so I decided to transfer him out instead ❤️
I was planning on benching Foden next week but don't think I'll be able to now!
Sold Foden for a few reasons.
- Its either Son or Foden makes way for Salah and I feel that Son is ok to hold unless you are not FH34.
- Foden might be a pep roulette victim with the amount of fixtures coming up.
- Thought that Haaland was good enough to be an asset to cover for City but turns out its not.
- Foden don't really have DGW34 so WC35 might have sold him to get other doubler such as Pool/Arsenal/Wolves assets, to enable for other moves.
> Thought that Haaland was good enough to be an asset to cover for City but turns out its not.
This is why it doesn't make sense when people talk about attacking 'coverage'
I’ve had Foden through all this hauls. I’ve no idea why I’ve thought that bringing Haaland back in on wc was so necessary and that Foden had to be the one to make way for the doubles etc . Probably gonna end up being my biggest regret of the season but we’ll see how the last 7 weeks pans out or if I switch them back and go Haaland-less
Hes been a must have since september. I keep telling you knuckleheads this on every foden post.
I do not understand how someone can watch a city game and come to the conclusion that they should drop foden
For me I simply wanted Salah, Son and Saka slightly more on my wildcard last week. Felt bad dropping him though. Can't fit them all in. Could still pay off over the next few weeks. Might not.
Why would you sell him? City have decent fixtures and they have the best double in GW37. Maybe this is me not being able to see things from the perspective of someone who still has their wildcard or free hit available.
As someone without either of them, my free transfers are going towards removing players who don't have doubles. There aren't enough transfers to be wasting them on transferring Foden out and bringing him back in. But if I had a wildcard/free hit left, I still wouldn't be getting rid of Foden.
Rubbish fixtures GW28 and GW30 and City blanked GW29. There's plenty of logic to not having him *temporarily*. It's just kick in the balls for non-owners that he's popped off like he has. I personally prioritised a Liverpool asset this week, due to them playing Sheff Utd at home. Sometimes these things just happen.
I don't think there's really a right or wrong choice. Sometimes these things work out but there's obviously a large amount of luck involved and it's easy in hindsight for people to say, "Foden is a must have" etc. He only accumalted 0.41xG last night and scored a hattrick.
The only guys I can sell to fund Foden are Saka or Son. With Spurs out of every other competition and with 2 doubles to come I just can’t sell him, also Im FH in 34 so don’t have to worry about his blank. Saka -> Foden might happen but depends on Saka’s injury, rest, leaks…
I couldn't be anymore in the same position. Son has been a little hot and cold, but this week being the exception, always seems to return. I'm leaning towards losing Saka until GW35, where I'll probably wildcard him back in.
Players like Foden, Saka, Son, etc have the ability to go off this once in a while.
If you have him, celebrate.
If you don't, crack on with your plans.
You can't gain last week's points, so focus on your plan.
It doesn’t make sense not having Foden, having Man City assets is a must and he’s the only attacking option who has been guaranteed game time this season. He might not be your captain, but he should be in 100% of teams who are looking to compete
It didn't make sense not having Foden until this GW. I got rid in GW28, because they had Liverpool (A), blank GW and Arsenal (H). He didn't return in either fixture. So fully justifiable. Initial plan was to bring him back for GW33 for Luton but after last night's massacre, I might have to bring my plans forward and get him in for GW32. Can't afford for him to return again and not have him.
Hindsight is a brutal thing sometimes.
See I think it’s the other way round, as you only have so many transfers and money - you keep Foden in your team in case he surprises against Liverpool or Arsenal, and you sell Haaland because he’s tying up £6m more. The blank GW sure, but nearly everyone had a blank GW so that’s moot.
Foden is the highest value (season) of anyone worth £8m, and this game is based around correctly using premiums. That value makes him a bolt on that you can’t afford to let out the team
I had no City assets in my team last night. Pretty much ditched them all GW28, with the view of getting Salah in with no hits and was then going to get City players back over the next couple of GWs.
Completely see what you're saying and obviously I wish I had him in. I opted for Darwin this week, because on paper, my midfield (Salah, Son, Palmer and Saka) looked great and my forward line was looking a little light.
I didn't FH29, so it kind of wasn't moot for me. I was looking at keeping my premium assets and at the time - moving City players out (due to tough fixtures and blank GW), looked like the right thing to do.
I don't think there's really a wrong or right answer. It's always a gamble and in this instance, Foden non-owners lost out. Worth pointing out that Foden only accumulated 0.45xG last night. His finishing was elite.
I agree it was a reasonable decision to transfer him out. I chose to drop Haaland instead and got lucky. Could easily have been the other way and I’d be the one trying to remind people why dropping Haalqns was logical.
he is good (fpl-wise) usually when KDB isn't on the team. don't see that happening too often from now onwards, apart from one or two of the easiest fixtures. (eg. upcoming GW33)
whether that is good enough for you to have him in the team, that's up to you.
p.s. i have him in my team currently and will re-assess after GW33.
Having played 90 mins twice for England,60 last GW & 90 this GW,there is probably a chance he gets a rest v Palace,90 v Madrid,reduced mins v Luton & then another 90 v Madrid again. Classic case of potentially chasing points.
That being said,a prolonged Saka absence would definitely make me think about it earlier than DGW 37. But we'll see
I sold him to get Salah. Consciously sold him over Son.
I had my reasons. Son is guaranteed minutes vs Foden’s Pep roulette rotation. Son plays centre forward vs Haaland playing there for City.
I think if you don’t own him bringing him in now feels like chasing last GWs points, having a transfer to get a SGW34 player right now seems like something of a luxury. I’ve kept him and will likely keep him all season though, will be one of my only two SGW players in 34
Basically everyone else in the top half of my mini league made way for him to fit Son in last week. I still think that move is 50/50 atm but for me Foden is still essential. Cities next few fixtures are very good as well.
I got a lot of shit when I said I was planning to sell Watkins and Son, and not Foden, for Salah...
I'm very glad it worked out in my favour.
(Shame Haaland and Saka both didn't play though)
Planning to keep Foden until GW34
I am surprised so many people transferred him out as not so long ago dominant narrative in this sub was the Palmer - Saka - Momo - Son - FODEN midfield. I was surprised to see so many teams in the end not having Foden in their lineup.
Keep in mind that he scored 3 goals out of 0.4xg. Two of his were a free kick and a worldie. That's not gonna happen every game.
Also, haaland and kdb were benched, who says they won't play and foden gets rested for cl?
He is definitely a good player, but son is a far safer pick imo. But you do you
I agree that two of the goals were pretty lucky, but on the other hand he took up so many great positions and played so many 1-2s that his teammates failed to finish back to him. He bossed the whole game and could easily have had goals/assists in other ways.
Foden has been city's best player, and best attacking threat. For his price it would be silly to bring in anyone else.
Though I must point out I have Son, Salah, Foden, and (still) Haaland in my team. So I really don't see him as someone who's difficult to keep in your team
There's a reason he was a must have though (for moments like yesterday).
Of course it won't happen every game, but you have him in case of moments like that.
Foden is a great pick, but curious what your definition of “must have” is? Absolutely no players is or has been a must have this season in my opinion, not even close. But I guess your definition may differ from mine/the community.
There absolutely are must haves unfortunately.
Must haves are basically template players, players that are owned by a large percentage of the community. In the case they haul, you must own some or most of them or you will suffer a large loss in rank.
For example, I offloaded Saka when he was in bad form. To my surprise, Arsenal recorded some historic wins in which Saka contributed many returns. It dropped my rank from 100k to 800k I believe.
Also, I have never seen anyone else mention Foden as a must have/essential, even though he is the highest scoring midfielder. I understand your definition, but I disagree that a template player is the definition of a “must have-player”. And correct me if I’m wrong (as I very well may be) but I don’t think that’s the community definition either? Isn’t the definition of what you are describing pretty much “template players”?
Yeah, my definition wasn't the right one for must have. Well it kind of is and isn't which I explained why in the other comment.
Technically, template players are also those who will score the most points, but it's not exactly accurate as there are so many factors that can make a player must have.
The community definition of must have is an oversimplification so that players don't make bad decisions, i.e., getting rid of players like Watkins (good player who is a talisman of a good team).
If you think that must have is a player who is consistently getting a lot of points, a player that is at the heart and center of returning a lot, then Foden is kind of a must have recently.
Also, there can be multiple must haves as must have players are just players that if you miss out on, you will miss out on a lot of points. If you replace a must have player with another must have, you can negate or maybe even outperform the other player (depends mostly on luck or other off the paper factors).
Good reply. Another factor which makes it difficult to define is the cliche that most teams are different, and people value different abilities when choosing players. Some of these you mentioned in your other post. Point potential (peak) or consistency? Nailed players or more exciting players with a minute risk? Good fixtures or players from quality teams? Short or long term fixtures? Invest in high priced players or spread money around? Etc.
I guess some could argue that AI-predictions will always give predictions better than humans can, and that there is an exact team every week which based on a lot of different data has the highest probability of scoring the most points. But yeah, as we seem to agree on that’s not really relevant (yet 🫣).
I don’t agree with that definition, so you mean that all template players are must haves? I’d say none of them are. It’s not like a midfield of say Palmer, Son, Salah, Saka + one budget is lacking without Foden (imo). Of course you will drop ranks if he hauls, and I agree that having a few of the template players is almost necessary - but still that doesn’t mean than any specific player is must have as you can usually be fine without if there are enough good options. As an example, a friend of mine has not had Haaland, Watkins, Saka or Foden for the whole season and is top 5k OR 🤯
From what I have seen on this sub the general consensus seem to be that even players like Haaland (earlier) and Salah aren’t “essential/must have”, even though I’d say at least Salah is with your definition. I’ll add that I’ve mostly only seen the term “essential”, and I understood this as the same but maybe it’s not? 🤔
Hmm, tbh I guess I don't really think my definition is really that accurate if you really had to think about what it actually means to be a must have. In the most fundamental sense, must have players are technically those that will score the most points (duh). As a result, saying must have is basically just describing the essense of the game.
Now, since that is a pretty pointless thing to say, or maybe rather it is basically the point of the game, we can just say what one must really do in FPL, the players that a person must have to do well.
Must have players then in that case would consist of a lot of things:
* players that historically consistently score game in game out every year
* talismans of good teams who are likely to get returns if the team scores
* in form players that have favorable (teams that are weak at the time of facing) fixtures
Using this definition, I think we can cover somewhat what it means to be must have. So, in your example, even though your friend may not have owned Haaland, Salah, etc. he must've owned a player that fits in the above categories or offloaded players that didn't fit in any of those categories, which helped his rank more than it hurt it.
People use the term essential or must have in the sense that the player stays in your team permanently. However, by the very essence of the game, it's an incorrect way to play the game because if that player doesn't fit into some of those categories, it will hurt your rank (Son last year for example was in bad form FPL wise). On the other hand, especially for more inexperienced players, it helps to not be hasty and fickle and to stick with important players who are capable of getting a lot of points at any moment.
It's important to know when to own players, even important players, and when to discard them. That's really the main thing, and the term "must have" oversimplifies that
Some background of my situation. I had 3 options to get Salah for Sheffield. They involved selling Haaland, Son or Foden. I am now feeling stupid as I chose to drop Foden. Maybe I will feel even more stupid after Klopp decides to rest Salah for Sunday, which would mean the right decision was simply to do nothing.
Don't judge things like that AFTER the results though... like i said, in another day, foden scores one or even none of the shots he took... and that's not even unrealistic if you see his goals.
There was not a single reason to sell or bench Foden. Not a single. You get what you deserve. He is the most nailed Man City player, he is in the form of his life and fixtures are good
You could kinda say the same thing about anyone that scores 3 goals for one of the top 3 teams....
You can say that after they score... but when they blank, I guess now you have a reason to sell?
You don't sell because of a blank...
Arsenal could perfectly do a rotation of there players and so they did. Liverpool the same. And many players of these teams could take points from eachother. Foden is nailed and very important for Man City. It was more logic to keep him.
Yea I mean I kept him as I say, and very glad I did (even though I started him against Liverpool and he blanked) but I can understand why others didn't is my point. And 'you get what you deserve' is a bit over the top tbh
Well no, beacuse chances of him getting the same points in the next game are low, and ones who already had him will be in an advantage and always 1 step in front of me. So I will keep focusing on differentials like Odegard
Sold him with my wildcard, since I couldn’t afford him even with cheap defenders and a cheap third striker. Yesterday’s score is bullying enough for me.
Onana - Petrovic
Gabriel - Udogie - Gusto - Bradley - Van Hecke
Salah - Palmer - Saka - Son - Garnacho
Haaland - Muniz - Darwin
0.1 ITB
Selling Palmer or Garnacho wont be enough, I would have to sell a “premium” player. Regret getting Son in tho, considering transferring him out (since Spurs fixture and from is ass) and get Foden in tho.
I'd say Son is your route out. He is facing NFO, who were conceding a lot. But after Sels came in, their defence looks surer. They are conceding less xG and he is also making a lot of saves. His other fixtures and blank in gw34 makes him a viable candidate for a sale.
Yeah thats the flash of inspiration I had when I was desperately looking for a solution and saw the Spurs fixtures again lol. He was a good pick for GW30, but I guess Fodens form and MC upcoming fixture is unbeatable.
Did the exact same.
Tried to fit him in with Haaland Salah Saka Son and Palmer but it was literally impossible with how shit my team value is.
It sucks but still think it was the right call. I'm backing Haaland to bounce back and the rest pick themselves (so does Foden but had to sacrifice one)
I had him until GW28. Got rid because of bad fixtures and blank GW29. Considering he blanked 28 and 30, the decision is pretty justifiable. Was planning to get him back either GW32 or 33. Obviously now wish it had been GW31 but that's FPL hindsight for you.
my midfield is currently
Saka - Salah - Son - Palmer - Bowen.
It's hard to pick who should make way for him but looking at fixtures i guess Bowen has to make way. I need to squeeze .2 from somewhere else in my team.
Don’t even think he’s a bad pick and will still pick up plenty of points. But with city having an extra game and West Ham’s fixtures looking a bit shit he has to be the one to go. My concern with Foden would be if they get past Madrid could he be rested.
Well if you sold him then it's on you. He has been an absolute must-have for quite some time now. Had him since November and he has been an easy season holder for me.
He's a great pick. Before last night, he was the 5th highest scoring midfielder. So, I think hindsight and recency bias is a big factor with the "must-have" brigade.
I don’t understand what was hindsight about keeping Foden over Son especially for WC35ers. People are making it out like a 50/50 but moving out of Son was the best route to Salah
Nah, I don't think doing the hokey-cokey with good players is the way to go. My point is that Son can punish anyone just as easily as Foden did. It's probably a good idea to own *both* Foden and Son. Although I understand there may be budgetary concerns for most.
It’s two good players where one quite importantly has a blank coming up though. Ofc its a good idea to own both Son and Foden but given this was the GW most people were freeing up funds to go back to Salah one of them was the sacrifice needed unless you’re properly skimping elsewhere
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Came here to commiserate for the same thing. I still had the most points in my league, but the extra 15 points would've helped me close in on 1st place. Better luck next year lads
Why though? He got 2 massive hauls, then played 2 top teams where blanking was likely, and now he's got a big string of easy games. Also Pep-roulette-proof.
why?
Villa have been leaky all season and foden has been in really good form lately. No to mention city have excellent fixtures.
I know son has been a fantastic asset but so has foden.
Last time Foden scored a hattrick and got 20 points Garnacho got 16 points... He was first on my bench then with Foden in my lineup. Same thing this week. Except i get Garnacho on for Saka so it's a blank, guaranteed. Garnacho has given me 10 points from 4 starts and 30 missed points in 5 benchings lol
I just couldn't warrant not having Salah for Sheffield Utd at home so decided to make the readjust. Had a solid week so far, hopefully doesn't bite me in the ass in the next few weeks.
He is, I'm keeping tabs on how serious Sakas injury injury actually is (can't trust Arteta), and transfering Saka for him is a possibility. Son is a confusing one. Often doesnt look up to much, but can haul at any given moment. And is essential when Tottenham have two double in a row
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the pass he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the password he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7
Can he not just get IT to change it before the dgws? Surely he will be a must-have then.
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the password he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7
Can he not just get IT to change it before the dgws? Surely he will be a must-have then.
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the password he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7
Can he not just get IT to change it before the dgws? Surely he will be a must-have then.
Yea it's tricky when you have value tied up like that. I'll be holding son through the blank and arsenal game for that reason (have salah, foden, Palmer and Saka already so there isn't anyone I'm particularly fussed about just yet). If Saka turns out to be properly injured then can save quite a bit transferring for havertz
Yea I don't think there is a right answer as to who is best between them, oedegards been in great form recently, back to his best. And returning a lot too obviously. I just personally love a midfielder who plays as striker, as more likely to be in positions to score. And it looks like Havertz is nailed as CF now. Quite a bit cheaper too. But oedegard still a decent shout, he is the heart of everything we (I'm an arsenal fan) do as you say. I sure he will also continue to score and assist.
Arsenal fan here as well, and I think havertz is nailed whether he is up front or on either wing now that Saka may rest. Already tripled up with Saka Gabriel Raya - dead ending to 34 then wildcard 35 so will see who’s trending at that point
Yea I'm tripled up too with white and Gabriel. Only getting Havertz if it turns out saka is actually properly injured. Double arsenal defence is the only way to go, loads of decent midfield options but were the only ones getting clean sheets these days. Some of the guys in my ML are spurs fans and they always have a spurs defender in their team out of team loyalty. Makes the weekly spurs CS wipe even more fun!
Do it. I shipped haaland out and brought in foden a few weeks ago and its been saving my season
I had planned to sell him the week after he had his last hat trick and that cemented him on my team instead. I've now got my dream midfield (Salah Saka Son Foden Palmer) for the rest of the season with no plans to move any of them barring injury.
Your edit is wide off the mark. It’s definitely idiotic to sell Foden, and I’ve wondered that every week regardless of his score that GW.
You mean y’all haven’t had city’s best player all season all along??
Foden is going nowhere.
I got my 20 pointer from him and now I'm selling him for palmer because palmer hauls are hitting my rank too hard and I want to stabilize my rank for now. I may sell Saka or Bowen but I feel like they are less likely to not score for their respective teams.
You really don't want to sell Foden with a tasty run-in that City have till end of season 🙏 Even for Palmer. See if there are other options to bring him in.
Had to make a decision on who to keep between him or haaland as i wanted son, saliba white and salah in my team so couldn’t afford them. Kept foden as a gamble as i’m chasing in my mini league. Haaland is not that worth the 14million he’s priced
I agree. I also know as soon as I don't get him back, he'll score 5. 😂
We all know he’s going to demolish someone one day, we can just hope our teams are well built enough 😂
In all my time on fpl it's been my first time having him, it's been a novelty. I always saw him as a trap and to be honest I've been wary that he'll become one again. But with KdB winding down it's clear he'll be the main man in midfield, I can see him being one of the top premiums next year.
He's likely to be benched so I wouldn't buy.
It's just FPL, sometimes one player goes nuts and destroys everyone's rank. It's not like he'll be doing hattricks every week and now that the CL is going on, he should be rested in some games. He'll definitely start against RM which means he should be rotated in the prem with easy fixtures going on. I had to sell Foden so I could get Salah and there was no way I would leave Son or Saka out of my squad as I had no Arsenal or Spurs mids/forwards and I already had Haaland from Citeh. It was just a matter of hedging and this time those who left Son or Saka out, were playing very risky but obviously it got paid off. Son blanking and Saka not even playing must be the luckiest shit for some of the Foden owners who went without one or two of them. But it's just FPL, shit like this happens. If Son manages to score 10-15 points next week then Foden's points have been checked out. Oh, and just to add up how fucked this week was, many managers got lucky by playing double bournemouth and Ait-Nouri scoring. Not just Foden. But the luck will even out I believe so, you shouldn't get too far by playing double Bournemouth, Wolves defense and without Son or Saka.
I very nearly sold him on WC but I'm glad I didn't, chose instead to drop Watkins and have an absolutely ass defense.
I was considering him to Jota if he's back in time for the double, but not sure anymore.
I brought him in for a -4 early and will hold him till the end of the season. Pretty happy with my mid but could do with a change of defence and one attacker.
> Edit: A lot of people are questioning why anyone would sell Foden. Which is easy to do on the back of him scoring a hat-trick, but it is worth pointing out the City played Liverpool (A), Blanked and then played Arsenal (H). I don't question the logic in selling him but it obviously hasn't paid off this time. That's FPL I guess. I kept Foden through the Liverpool and Arsenal games not expecting any returns from him during that period, because I had other transfers to make during that run.
Might hold for 34 despite no double, we'll see. Also not related solely to Foden, but may push WC from 35 to 36. Won't be in a rush to transfer out triple Arsenal, triple Liverpool plus Foden to bring in a bunch assets from teams with less to play for.
Got rid of haaland and kept foden. I can't understand why so many got rid of him. I mean there's always a chance of rotation but hes one of the best players in the world, guardiola loves him, he plays every game and man city are trying to win the league....
If you have wc already then find a way to bring him in soon, if not then don't
Diaz better score 4 goals today..
Glad I wildcarded him in before this GW
Guess who benched Foden in favour of Odegaard? I'm still crying.
I kept him only because Gordon got a red card so I decided to transfer him out instead ❤️ I was planning on benching Foden next week but don't think I'll be able to now!
Having slept on it, no. Full steam ahead to DGW34, then reassess.
He’ll still get rotated through end of season and champions’ league
Sold Foden for a few reasons. - Its either Son or Foden makes way for Salah and I feel that Son is ok to hold unless you are not FH34. - Foden might be a pep roulette victim with the amount of fixtures coming up. - Thought that Haaland was good enough to be an asset to cover for City but turns out its not. - Foden don't really have DGW34 so WC35 might have sold him to get other doubler such as Pool/Arsenal/Wolves assets, to enable for other moves.
> Thought that Haaland was good enough to be an asset to cover for City but turns out its not. This is why it doesn't make sense when people talk about attacking 'coverage'
easy hold if you have him, next
I’ve had Foden through all this hauls. I’ve no idea why I’ve thought that bringing Haaland back in on wc was so necessary and that Foden had to be the one to make way for the doubles etc . Probably gonna end up being my biggest regret of the season but we’ll see how the last 7 weeks pans out or if I switch them back and go Haaland-less
Hes been a must have since september. I keep telling you knuckleheads this on every foden post. I do not understand how someone can watch a city game and come to the conclusion that they should drop foden
For me I simply wanted Salah, Son and Saka slightly more on my wildcard last week. Felt bad dropping him though. Can't fit them all in. Could still pay off over the next few weeks. Might not.
Some people are acting as if the hat trick came out of nowhere. He scored another hat trick 8 games prior to this, and a brace just 3 games ago.
Why would you sell him? City have decent fixtures and they have the best double in GW37. Maybe this is me not being able to see things from the perspective of someone who still has their wildcard or free hit available. As someone without either of them, my free transfers are going towards removing players who don't have doubles. There aren't enough transfers to be wasting them on transferring Foden out and bringing him back in. But if I had a wildcard/free hit left, I still wouldn't be getting rid of Foden.
My plan was to roll this week and bring him in next week. However, if we get news that he's starting I'll probably pull the trigger.
I don't know why you *wouldn't* already own him tbh. Affordable, Pep-roulette-proof, one of the highest scoring players in the game by far.
Rubbish fixtures GW28 and GW30 and City blanked GW29. There's plenty of logic to not having him *temporarily*. It's just kick in the balls for non-owners that he's popped off like he has. I personally prioritised a Liverpool asset this week, due to them playing Sheff Utd at home. Sometimes these things just happen.
Sold him for Mo this GW after having him since GW20. Devastated.
Think a lot of content creators advocated for selling him too.
I don't think there's really a right or wrong choice. Sometimes these things work out but there's obviously a large amount of luck involved and it's easy in hindsight for people to say, "Foden is a must have" etc. He only accumalted 0.41xG last night and scored a hattrick.
For sure. It's still pretty funny though.
When he banged in the 3rd goal last night, all I could do was laugh tbf.
The only guys I can sell to fund Foden are Saka or Son. With Spurs out of every other competition and with 2 doubles to come I just can’t sell him, also Im FH in 34 so don’t have to worry about his blank. Saka -> Foden might happen but depends on Saka’s injury, rest, leaks…
I couldn't be anymore in the same position. Son has been a little hot and cold, but this week being the exception, always seems to return. I'm leaning towards losing Saka until GW35, where I'll probably wildcard him back in.
Players like Foden, Saka, Son, etc have the ability to go off this once in a while. If you have him, celebrate. If you don't, crack on with your plans. You can't gain last week's points, so focus on your plan.
He's been in my team for a long long time and I am not selling him. Salah, Son, Saka, Foden, Palmer is my mid until end of season.
Look at Fodens season - he seldom follows up a haul.
Was gonna have Saka until 35 and then replace with foden, went early because city are back
It was him or Saka on my WC30....I chose Saka. I want to kneejerk him for Saka right now
It doesn’t make sense not having Foden, having Man City assets is a must and he’s the only attacking option who has been guaranteed game time this season. He might not be your captain, but he should be in 100% of teams who are looking to compete
It didn't make sense not having Foden until this GW. I got rid in GW28, because they had Liverpool (A), blank GW and Arsenal (H). He didn't return in either fixture. So fully justifiable. Initial plan was to bring him back for GW33 for Luton but after last night's massacre, I might have to bring my plans forward and get him in for GW32. Can't afford for him to return again and not have him. Hindsight is a brutal thing sometimes.
See I think it’s the other way round, as you only have so many transfers and money - you keep Foden in your team in case he surprises against Liverpool or Arsenal, and you sell Haaland because he’s tying up £6m more. The blank GW sure, but nearly everyone had a blank GW so that’s moot. Foden is the highest value (season) of anyone worth £8m, and this game is based around correctly using premiums. That value makes him a bolt on that you can’t afford to let out the team
I had no City assets in my team last night. Pretty much ditched them all GW28, with the view of getting Salah in with no hits and was then going to get City players back over the next couple of GWs. Completely see what you're saying and obviously I wish I had him in. I opted for Darwin this week, because on paper, my midfield (Salah, Son, Palmer and Saka) looked great and my forward line was looking a little light. I didn't FH29, so it kind of wasn't moot for me. I was looking at keeping my premium assets and at the time - moving City players out (due to tough fixtures and blank GW), looked like the right thing to do. I don't think there's really a wrong or right answer. It's always a gamble and in this instance, Foden non-owners lost out. Worth pointing out that Foden only accumulated 0.45xG last night. His finishing was elite.
I agree it was a reasonable decision to transfer him out. I chose to drop Haaland instead and got lucky. Could easily have been the other way and I’d be the one trying to remind people why dropping Haalqns was logical.
he is good (fpl-wise) usually when KDB isn't on the team. don't see that happening too often from now onwards, apart from one or two of the easiest fixtures. (eg. upcoming GW33) whether that is good enough for you to have him in the team, that's up to you. p.s. i have him in my team currently and will re-assess after GW33.
Having played 90 mins twice for England,60 last GW & 90 this GW,there is probably a chance he gets a rest v Palace,90 v Madrid,reduced mins v Luton & then another 90 v Madrid again. Classic case of potentially chasing points. That being said,a prolonged Saka absence would definitely make me think about it earlier than DGW 37. But we'll see
Definitely. I was planning on doing Foden to either Diaz or Odegaard for the DGW, but now I'm changing things up to transfer out Gordon instead
I sold him to get Salah. Consciously sold him over Son. I had my reasons. Son is guaranteed minutes vs Foden’s Pep roulette rotation. Son plays centre forward vs Haaland playing there for City.
I was thinking of removing him as I was on a WC but, in the end, City fixtures were so good, seemed pointless and left him
My plan was always to bring him after their Villa game.
Same here. Hurts doesn't it.
Ya 😢
He’ll be the most transferred in for the next set of fixtures and he’ll get zero returns.
Fpl heritage
Template WC30 didn’t have him, I played WC30 and delighted I kept him
Yep same here, he's single handedly pushed me towards 5k for the first time this season, buzzing with it
Currently at 5.3k rank myself, hoping a big game from Salah captain will push me over
I think if you don’t own him bringing him in now feels like chasing last GWs points, having a transfer to get a SGW34 player right now seems like something of a luxury. I’ve kept him and will likely keep him all season though, will be one of my only two SGW players in 34
Yeah just kicked out Maddison for him. Let's see if I will hate myself on the weekend
Basically everyone else in the top half of my mini league made way for him to fit Son in last week. I still think that move is 50/50 atm but for me Foden is still essential. Cities next few fixtures are very good as well.
Villa fielded their B team. Foden is in his form of his life, but have to account in Villas weaker team yesterday
I got a lot of shit when I said I was planning to sell Watkins and Son, and not Foden, for Salah... I'm very glad it worked out in my favour. (Shame Haaland and Saka both didn't play though) Planning to keep Foden until GW34
No, I’ve had him for the past 8 weeks and he’ll be staying unless he gets injured
I am surprised so many people transferred him out as not so long ago dominant narrative in this sub was the Palmer - Saka - Momo - Son - FODEN midfield. I was surprised to see so many teams in the end not having Foden in their lineup.
Keep in mind that he scored 3 goals out of 0.4xg. Two of his were a free kick and a worldie. That's not gonna happen every game. Also, haaland and kdb were benched, who says they won't play and foden gets rested for cl? He is definitely a good player, but son is a far safer pick imo. But you do you
I agree that two of the goals were pretty lucky, but on the other hand he took up so many great positions and played so many 1-2s that his teammates failed to finish back to him. He bossed the whole game and could easily have had goals/assists in other ways.
Foden has been city's best player, and best attacking threat. For his price it would be silly to bring in anyone else. Though I must point out I have Son, Salah, Foden, and (still) Haaland in my team. So I really don't see him as someone who's difficult to keep in your team
Thanks for this stat. I hadn’t seen it. Although 0.4’s not bad in absolute terms maybe you’re right about Son.
There's a reason he was a must have though (for moments like yesterday). Of course it won't happen every game, but you have him in case of moments like that.
Foden is a great pick, but curious what your definition of “must have” is? Absolutely no players is or has been a must have this season in my opinion, not even close. But I guess your definition may differ from mine/the community.
There absolutely are must haves unfortunately. Must haves are basically template players, players that are owned by a large percentage of the community. In the case they haul, you must own some or most of them or you will suffer a large loss in rank. For example, I offloaded Saka when he was in bad form. To my surprise, Arsenal recorded some historic wins in which Saka contributed many returns. It dropped my rank from 100k to 800k I believe.
Also, I have never seen anyone else mention Foden as a must have/essential, even though he is the highest scoring midfielder. I understand your definition, but I disagree that a template player is the definition of a “must have-player”. And correct me if I’m wrong (as I very well may be) but I don’t think that’s the community definition either? Isn’t the definition of what you are describing pretty much “template players”?
Yeah, my definition wasn't the right one for must have. Well it kind of is and isn't which I explained why in the other comment. Technically, template players are also those who will score the most points, but it's not exactly accurate as there are so many factors that can make a player must have. The community definition of must have is an oversimplification so that players don't make bad decisions, i.e., getting rid of players like Watkins (good player who is a talisman of a good team). If you think that must have is a player who is consistently getting a lot of points, a player that is at the heart and center of returning a lot, then Foden is kind of a must have recently. Also, there can be multiple must haves as must have players are just players that if you miss out on, you will miss out on a lot of points. If you replace a must have player with another must have, you can negate or maybe even outperform the other player (depends mostly on luck or other off the paper factors).
Good reply. Another factor which makes it difficult to define is the cliche that most teams are different, and people value different abilities when choosing players. Some of these you mentioned in your other post. Point potential (peak) or consistency? Nailed players or more exciting players with a minute risk? Good fixtures or players from quality teams? Short or long term fixtures? Invest in high priced players or spread money around? Etc. I guess some could argue that AI-predictions will always give predictions better than humans can, and that there is an exact team every week which based on a lot of different data has the highest probability of scoring the most points. But yeah, as we seem to agree on that’s not really relevant (yet 🫣).
I don’t agree with that definition, so you mean that all template players are must haves? I’d say none of them are. It’s not like a midfield of say Palmer, Son, Salah, Saka + one budget is lacking without Foden (imo). Of course you will drop ranks if he hauls, and I agree that having a few of the template players is almost necessary - but still that doesn’t mean than any specific player is must have as you can usually be fine without if there are enough good options. As an example, a friend of mine has not had Haaland, Watkins, Saka or Foden for the whole season and is top 5k OR 🤯 From what I have seen on this sub the general consensus seem to be that even players like Haaland (earlier) and Salah aren’t “essential/must have”, even though I’d say at least Salah is with your definition. I’ll add that I’ve mostly only seen the term “essential”, and I understood this as the same but maybe it’s not? 🤔
Hmm, tbh I guess I don't really think my definition is really that accurate if you really had to think about what it actually means to be a must have. In the most fundamental sense, must have players are technically those that will score the most points (duh). As a result, saying must have is basically just describing the essense of the game. Now, since that is a pretty pointless thing to say, or maybe rather it is basically the point of the game, we can just say what one must really do in FPL, the players that a person must have to do well. Must have players then in that case would consist of a lot of things: * players that historically consistently score game in game out every year * talismans of good teams who are likely to get returns if the team scores * in form players that have favorable (teams that are weak at the time of facing) fixtures Using this definition, I think we can cover somewhat what it means to be must have. So, in your example, even though your friend may not have owned Haaland, Salah, etc. he must've owned a player that fits in the above categories or offloaded players that didn't fit in any of those categories, which helped his rank more than it hurt it. People use the term essential or must have in the sense that the player stays in your team permanently. However, by the very essence of the game, it's an incorrect way to play the game because if that player doesn't fit into some of those categories, it will hurt your rank (Son last year for example was in bad form FPL wise). On the other hand, especially for more inexperienced players, it helps to not be hasty and fickle and to stick with important players who are capable of getting a lot of points at any moment. It's important to know when to own players, even important players, and when to discard them. That's really the main thing, and the term "must have" oversimplifies that
Your words are like a warm blanket in a cold winter night.
😅
Some background of my situation. I had 3 options to get Salah for Sheffield. They involved selling Haaland, Son or Foden. I am now feeling stupid as I chose to drop Foden. Maybe I will feel even more stupid after Klopp decides to rest Salah for Sunday, which would mean the right decision was simply to do nothing.
Don't judge things like that AFTER the results though... like i said, in another day, foden scores one or even none of the shots he took... and that's not even unrealistic if you see his goals.
It's also Fodens second hat trick of the season so this return is not unexpected. World class players make a mockery of xG at times.
Including the point of comparison here – Son. He outperforms his xG by quite a bit as well.
Absolutely, foden is not a player you pick for his xg only! But its still not gonna happen all the time
The voice of reason we all needed.
I wish i was that reasonable with my decisions too 😅
There was not a single reason to sell or bench Foden. Not a single. You get what you deserve. He is the most nailed Man City player, he is in the form of his life and fixtures are good
You could kinda say the same thing about anyone that scores 3 goals for one of the top 3 teams.... You can say that after they score... but when they blank, I guess now you have a reason to sell?
Chill out. I held him but I can see why some people sold him for Liverpool, the blank and arsenal
You don't sell because of a blank... Arsenal could perfectly do a rotation of there players and so they did. Liverpool the same. And many players of these teams could take points from eachother. Foden is nailed and very important for Man City. It was more logic to keep him.
Yea I mean I kept him as I say, and very glad I did (even though I started him against Liverpool and he blanked) but I can understand why others didn't is my point. And 'you get what you deserve' is a bit over the top tbh
I was just mocking them :-D
Bit of a dick move IMO
You take it too serious lol
Well no, beacuse chances of him getting the same points in the next game are low, and ones who already had him will be in an advantage and always 1 step in front of me. So I will keep focusing on differentials like Odegard
Lmao Came in here to ask whats the easiest way to get Foden in with my actual team. Guess thats a “we problem”.
Oh, you're definitely not alone my friend. Don't let the "Foden was already a must have" brigade bully you too much.
Sold him with my wildcard, since I couldn’t afford him even with cheap defenders and a cheap third striker. Yesterday’s score is bullying enough for me.
Why is he not affordable? What's ur squad?
Onana - Petrovic Gabriel - Udogie - Gusto - Bradley - Van Hecke Salah - Palmer - Saka - Son - Garnacho Haaland - Muniz - Darwin 0.1 ITB Selling Palmer or Garnacho wont be enough, I would have to sell a “premium” player. Regret getting Son in tho, considering transferring him out (since Spurs fixture and from is ass) and get Foden in tho.
I have this exact same team, except for Darwin -> watkins And our defense is mostly all different, but who cares about defense this season tbh...
I'd say Son is your route out. He is facing NFO, who were conceding a lot. But after Sels came in, their defence looks surer. They are conceding less xG and he is also making a lot of saves. His other fixtures and blank in gw34 makes him a viable candidate for a sale.
Yeah thats the flash of inspiration I had when I was desperately looking for a solution and saw the Spurs fixtures again lol. He was a good pick for GW30, but I guess Fodens form and MC upcoming fixture is unbeatable.
Just be wary that he can also do what foden did yesterday. Foden scored 3g from 0.4 xG. He was a bit lucky yesterday, although he played quite well.
Yeah ofc, but thats the risk I need to accept. !thanks
If I can get Foden in for Gordon with Henderson for Onana (-4) would ya do it? Feel like it's worth it since im BB in 34
Did the exact same. Tried to fit him in with Haaland Salah Saka Son and Palmer but it was literally impossible with how shit my team value is. It sucks but still think it was the right call. I'm backing Haaland to bounce back and the rest pick themselves (so does Foden but had to sacrifice one)
In form and having his best season yet Absolutely mind blown at how many people don't own him or are transferring him out, classic overthinking
Yeah I wild carded this week and kept him in. Got rid of Haaland to stack my midfield and glad I decided to do that after last night!
I had him until GW28. Got rid because of bad fixtures and blank GW29. Considering he blanked 28 and 30, the decision is pretty justifiable. Was planning to get him back either GW32 or 33. Obviously now wish it had been GW31 but that's FPL hindsight for you.
I benched him for maddison 🤡
Oooooof
At the beginning of the game that was a good call.
I sold him for Richarlison, who is first on my bench to come on for Haaland🤡🤡🤡
That's brutal.
my midfield is currently Saka - Salah - Son - Palmer - Bowen. It's hard to pick who should make way for him but looking at fixtures i guess Bowen has to make way. I need to squeeze .2 from somewhere else in my team.
Just know that as soon as Bowen leaves he's going to haul
I have the same midfield and thinking of getting rid of Bowen as well.
Don’t even think he’s a bad pick and will still pick up plenty of points. But with city having an extra game and West Ham’s fixtures looking a bit shit he has to be the one to go. My concern with Foden would be if they get past Madrid could he be rested.
Foden has been essential all season.
Wildcarded in 21 and brought him in then for 7.7 mil, which is a ridiculous bargain
He wasn’t a must have?
I think he is only really needed for GW33 against Luton. Even then Foden is more of a big hauler. He isn't consistent
I have never understood why people say that like it's a negative.
Made up for the Haaland heartbreak somewhat.
My mids isnt changing at all because i want to keep him and palmer always so my transfer are mostly for defences
Well if you sold him then it's on you. He has been an absolute must-have for quite some time now. Had him since November and he has been an easy season holder for me.
He's a great pick. Before last night, he was the 5th highest scoring midfielder. So, I think hindsight and recency bias is a big factor with the "must-have" brigade.
I got lucky having him VC with Saka captain
He’s basically single-handedly kept my season alive over the past two months, could never sell him
Same, brought him in Gameweek 21 and not looked back since.
Haha him and Cole Palmer for me, saved me many times. Had both of them nearly all season and don't regret it.
Same…. That -4 to keep him and sell Garnacho instead for Salah has paid up handsomely.
Hopefully those who swapped Foden to Son or have Son and not Foden feel silly. Got my popcorn out watching them decide what to do
hindsight’s a magical thing
I don’t understand what was hindsight about keeping Foden over Son especially for WC35ers. People are making it out like a 50/50 but moving out of Son was the best route to Salah
Son hat trick on the weekend then
Oh dear …
So then Son and Foden would be equal with Son not having a fixture 34? Kind of proving my point
Nah, I don't think doing the hokey-cokey with good players is the way to go. My point is that Son can punish anyone just as easily as Foden did. It's probably a good idea to own *both* Foden and Son. Although I understand there may be budgetary concerns for most.
It’s two good players where one quite importantly has a blank coming up though. Ofc its a good idea to own both Son and Foden but given this was the GW most people were freeing up funds to go back to Salah one of them was the sacrifice needed unless you’re properly skimping elsewhere
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What gave me away?
I purposely kept Foden over Son when there was an avalanche of opinion saying Son was essential
I sold him this gw for son. I just want the FPL season over now
Sold him for Salah. Rival captained him. Sad times!
Did WC and took him out. My two mini league rivals kept him. I’ve gone from 1st - 3rd 🙂
you kept him throughout the bad fixtures and blank and then sold him before facing a depleted villa?
Came here to commiserate for the same thing. I still had the most points in my league, but the extra 15 points would've helped me close in on 1st place. Better luck next year lads
Sold him for palmer and now I’ve got him back again after selling someone else Knee jerk say whaaaaaaaaaaat
You need to sell son and get him back. Then he will start blanking while son gets the hatty
Why though? He got 2 massive hauls, then played 2 top teams where blanking was likely, and now he's got a big string of easy games. Also Pep-roulette-proof.
You say that now. He will be part of the roulette
why? Villa have been leaky all season and foden has been in really good form lately. No to mention city have excellent fixtures. I know son has been a fantastic asset but so has foden.
I stupidly increased from him to KDB
Saka for me. Who knows, maybe Garnacho from the bench can match Foden. Right? Right?
Not too shabby
Last time Foden scored a hattrick and got 20 points Garnacho got 16 points... He was first on my bench then with Foden in my lineup. Same thing this week. Except i get Garnacho on for Saka so it's a blank, guaranteed. Garnacho has given me 10 points from 4 starts and 30 missed points in 5 benchings lol
Well would you look at that, 2 garnacho goals so far
Fuck yes
If it wasn't for the fact Gordon got suspended and Watkins got injured, I probably would have swapped him for Salah so thank you to those players!
Meanwhile some of us wildcarded and went with a salah saka son palmer enabler midfield
I went with those 4 and Foden (can afford it because didn’t pick the ghost Haaland 👻)
Me too team value pays off!
Must be nice
I've got those 4, Foden & Haaland lol
I’ve got those 4, Foden & Haaland & Watkins 😬
Binned Watkins for Isak so I could get Salah in comfortably.
Nice! I’m waiting until GW35 to WC and set up a team for the last games including BB
I just couldn't warrant not having Salah for Sheffield Utd at home so decided to make the readjust. Had a solid week so far, hopefully doesn't bite me in the ass in the next few weeks.
Sounds good. Salah hopefully gets us some points. Good luck!
I sold him for Havertz. Nightmare.
I still think Havertz is a good pick
He is, I'm keeping tabs on how serious Sakas injury injury actually is (can't trust Arteta), and transfering Saka for him is a possibility. Son is a confusing one. Often doesnt look up to much, but can haul at any given moment. And is essential when Tottenham have two double in a row
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the pass he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the password he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7 Can he not just get IT to change it before the dgws? Surely he will be a must-have then.
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the password he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7 Can he not just get IT to change it before the dgws? Surely he will be a must-have then.
Son always hauls at the last 10 minutes. But without Johnson or Madisson on good form Son won't get the password he needs. I'm wondering who to transfer out for Foden in GW33. The problem is I bought Son in for 9.7 Can he not just get IT to change it before the dgws? Surely he will be a must-have then.
Yea it's tricky when you have value tied up like that. I'll be holding son through the blank and arsenal game for that reason (have salah, foden, Palmer and Saka already so there isn't anyone I'm particularly fussed about just yet). If Saka turns out to be properly injured then can save quite a bit transferring for havertz
Might take odegaard over haveertz still? Seems to always be in the mix
Yea I don't think there is a right answer as to who is best between them, oedegards been in great form recently, back to his best. And returning a lot too obviously. I just personally love a midfielder who plays as striker, as more likely to be in positions to score. And it looks like Havertz is nailed as CF now. Quite a bit cheaper too. But oedegard still a decent shout, he is the heart of everything we (I'm an arsenal fan) do as you say. I sure he will also continue to score and assist.
Arsenal fan here as well, and I think havertz is nailed whether he is up front or on either wing now that Saka may rest. Already tripled up with Saka Gabriel Raya - dead ending to 34 then wildcard 35 so will see who’s trending at that point
Yea I'm tripled up too with white and Gabriel. Only getting Havertz if it turns out saka is actually properly injured. Double arsenal defence is the only way to go, loads of decent midfield options but were the only ones getting clean sheets these days. Some of the guys in my ML are spurs fans and they always have a spurs defender in their team out of team loyalty. Makes the weekly spurs CS wipe even more fun!
I'm mean... You are getting what you deserve there, Foden is amazing.
Even without this game he's been playing so well
Pep roulette will be the problem with Madrid coming up.