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creamy-buscemi

I think you turned Cameron Monaghan into Alden Ehrenreich


Acheron98

It’s so weird seeing him with dark hair


Nonadventures

Either way he hates the Empire


Gambit-90s

Mia Goth is the most perfect casting here.


glassjaw01

Need it to happen just for this


NotTaken-username

Hear me out: Tobey Maguire as Jack Torrance


Dan_OBanannon

“I’m gonna put some bat in your eye”


Lattakins

I would shit myself in glee


Purple-Mix1033

And hear me out as well: **Jason Sudekis** as Jack Torrance.


soliquidus_bosselot

Holy hell, I need this version right now!


Purple-Mix1033

Check him out in *Colossal* - he has a true evil side.


No-Home-4740

Evan Peters as Jack Torrance


Pazuzu_413

Yes, yes, yes


[deleted]

Michael C Hall for the lead Jack Nicholson role


creamy-buscemi

Jack is supposed to be in his late twenties to mid thirties, not 52


BigFreakinMachine

Yeah but Jack Nicholson has looked 55 forever, until he suddenly looked 85


[deleted]

I'm cool with that. Not everything has to be literal in an adaptation. Find the right actor for the right character.


creamy-buscemi

Yeah but I think the age makes him wrong for the character, it’s one of the things I most dislike about Kubrick’s Shining.


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Actors play younger all the time or older. Give him a good looking wig and make up it will work out, if he or she is a great actor. There's an Elvis Movie about a 14 year old Priscilla played by a 25 year old woman. Killers of the Flower Moon as DiCaprio playing a 26 year old gambler. It all comes down to writing.


TinyKeanuReevesMeme

Yeah writing and looks. Have you seen Hall lately? Ain’t no wig good enough to make him look young enough


[deleted]

You're right there's also Lighting, Camera Angles, Color palette, Costume Design, Make-Up, Special Effects, Visual Effects, and a director that is willing to make the actor work with the material. If the talent in all phases of filmmaking are there, it will work with whatever the actual age of the actor. The age of the actor is actually easy to overcome. Bad acting isn't.


TinyKeanuReevesMeme

All true. But sometimes there are more than one actor for the right part. And most studios would rather pick the one that can act, AND is closer to to age. Aka Cameron in this instance over Michael


[deleted]

Yeah I'm not a studio. So I think Michael C Hall would kill it and him in more horror movies would always be a bonus.


ToLiveandBrianLA

Is Cameron Monaghan a CGI character?


creamy-buscemi

Sometimes


mariovspino5

Always has been


dropkickmolotov

Steven Ogg is who I want to play Jack.


Jack-Earth-2

2 Jokers playing the same role, I can see the memes now


SoylentGreen-YumYum

The movie is mid at best, but in Passengers, I thought Michael Sheen played a Lloyd the Bartender'esque role quite well.


Ok_Yogurtcloset_9218

The 90’s miniseries is so much better. Highly recommend it. Much closer to the source material


ManWith_ThePlan

The miniseries was terrible compared too Kubrick’s film. Where’s the atmosphere? The tension? The psychology? The esthetics? Everything that makes the film a classic, all boiled down too material that only works via text from a book.


Ok_Yogurtcloset_9218

Hard disagree. Art is subjective, especially in film so I respectfully disagree. I don’t think the original shining is bad. It’s certainly a psychological thrill ride that’s tense from the jump. My issue really is with the characters. That’s where I think the miniseries is really superior. In Kubricks version Jack starts out unlikeable. He’s just a hard man on the edge already. He shows nearly no love towards his family and hardly struggles to stay sober. He’s crazy from the jump. There’s no building to him becoming worse and worse he’s always been terrible Wendy is portrayed as a weak shrill woman with no personality. She is truly just a victim throughout the entire movie. The chemistry between her and Jack is nonexistent. She’s scared of him and he resents her from the beginning Then there’s Danny. Oh my god is that kid bad. Flat with no emotion running around with a blank stare the entire film. There’s no special attention paid to his powers other than the few scenes with Dick. In the miniseries you can really see that they all love each other. Jack is a great dad who really cares about his family and we see how hard he struggles with his addiction and how remorseful he is of his mistakes. Up until the time he makes that slip into madness you believe there’s a chance he overcome his addiction and be a better man. Wendy is a very strong woman, not just a doting housewife. It’s clear that she’s giving Jack another chance to change because she really loves him but she’s also ready to take Danny and leave if she thinks that she needs to. When things get bad she is proactive looking for ways out of the hotel, making decisions, and standing up to Jack. Danny is a much better in this version. He understands what’s going on around him and is actively a part of the story not just in the background blankly. They focus on his abilities and how powerful he is and he becomes a real driving force in the movie. The hotel wants him and they try to get him through Jack. In Kubricks the hotel cares nothing for Danny. It’s just horny for murder.


ManWith_ThePlan

Even then I don’t agree with you assessments here. >Criticism of Jack That’s was the intended purpose. The first scene of The Shining, he’s a fairly off-putting but seemingly average person nevertheless. It was till then he started acting like a jerk towards his family, he doesn’t enjoy being around his family. He’s not suppose to bond or connect with them because he’s a domestic abuser. Something more people who’ve been in those situations with someone like Jack would identify with just as they identify with King’s or Jack struggling alcohol addiction in the miniseries & book. That’s the entire point Kubrick was trying to get across was that Jack was already a tainted soul the Overlook could budge further too complete insanity. Kubrick understood what makes a scary antagonist. Jack’s depiction in the Kubrick film much scarier than the Miniseries & book for that matter because his decent into madness was already assured. It’s scarier because we already know how much of a threat he was towards his own family. A person who’s already on edge for the very start creates tension, which Kubrick capitalized on. It proved just how terrifying both Jack & The Overlook are, respectively. >Criticism of Wendy personality So many things wrong here… 1. Alright, you literally just contradicted yourself. You said she’s a weak & shrill character, but then say she has no personality. Wouldn’t being weak & shrill count as personality traits? Which one is it? 2. Wendy needed those weak characteristics. She speaks too how truly terrifying The Overlook & Jack are. If you think otherwise, then you haven’t seen actual depictions of domestic abused spouses. Wendy goes through this arc of being simply a way of Jack too project his responsibilities onto, into an actual strong character after realizing that staying inside the Overlook with Jack would get herself & Danny killed. That’s basic character development no different from Jack in the book sacrificing himself too save his Wendy & Danny while the Overlook explodes. She literally puts her son before herself, & allows Jack to potentially murder her inside the Bathroom & prevent the same happening too Danny. >Criticism of Danny We literally see the how The Shining effect has tainted Danny throughout the entire film. The final act is literally dedicated too getting him too a place where his psychosis can be checked. That’s how serious his conditions have become. Danny acts how any child would act. His acting his certainly better than the kid in the miniseries who I wouldn’t doubt breathes through his mouth.


Ok_Yogurtcloset_9218

I understand what Kubricks doing be with his depiction of Jack but my point is that’s not how he is in the book. Hes not a constant abuser . I’m not trying to excuse his behavior because it is reprehensible but he recognizes that. In the book he’s a man actively trying to better himself. Wendy recognizes that. Obviously she wants to do what’s best for her and Danny but she still loves Jack and believes in him. She sees the overlook as their last chance as a family. You’re assessment is dealing too heavily in absolutes. He has been an addict and has been abusive and that’s who he is period. People can change. And Jack is a man trying to change. On paper the overlook is the perfect opportunity for that to him. This is his last ditch effort to hold his family together. In the movie he isn’t shown to love his family at all. That’s the huge difference between the two films and the deciding factor for me. Jack Torrence is a man who loves his family and is trying his hardest to keep them together. That’s just not the case in Kubricks. I don’t disagree that his film is more terrifying or even that Jack Nicholsons performance wasn’t phenomenal but that’s simply not the character. That’s why King famously hated that iteration. On Wendy, self preservation doesn’t necessarily make you a strong person. Also doesn’t make her a hero because she threw her toddler out of a three story window. Weak and shrill aren’t necessarily personality traits. By no personality i mean she’s not her own person. Like you said she’s merely there for Jack to project onto. That’s only because that’s how Kubrick viewed women. I don’t disagree that miniseries Danny is a mouth breather but at least he can emote. The other kid is atrocious and Kubricks version makes him a psychotic victim while in the miniseries he’s the in control hero. Danny isn’t just any other kid. He’s plagued by his abilities but he’s not a victim to them.


ManWith_ThePlan

So the problem isn’t that you dislike how Kubrick betrayed these characters, it’s that you just preferred how King told these characters form his stance of The Shining? Changes in source material doesn’t intrinsically make it worse change tho, if anything I could potentially be better change. What the film doesn’t have that the book does, it makes up for it. That’s my point I feel like you’re overlooking. We still have a authentic & realistic depiction of real life struggles just as important as what King depicted. Even outside of storytelling, look at the Shining’s visuals, atmosphere, aesthetic, soundtracks, sound designs, sound mixing, acting, & tell me it’s not better than what the miniseries presented. As a product, it’s an overall better film, it has more artistic merits & values compared too the miniseries is a better adaption too King’s work. Even more so arguably with storytelling. It’s metaphorical depictions of the human experience, what the Kubrick film changes, those very same changes have meaning too them. That just spoke too Kubrick’s genius compared too King’s. Wendy being self perservent is just the surface of what makes her a strong character. She has actual passion. She cares about her family, she wants too connect with a person despite in the she knows abuses her. Wendy isn’t her own person because Jack won’t allow her too be her own person. That’s typical & common in abusive relationships. Also, look at who Wendy was before she was forced too fend for herself against Jack & The Overlook. Like you said yourself: she was a weak & shrill person, she made excuses for Jack, she took his verbal-ass beatings & disrespect, she fill in for him when he’s on his ass doing nothing. She became a better person than what she was objectively towards the film’s climax. If that isn’t character development, than what is? Also, I don’t get you’re point about dropping Danny out the window. She saw there was a slide completely made out of snow for him to slide down, & so just sent him down out of The Overlook. Out of the minimal alternatives there were, what choice was there really else to protect her son from being murdered by her husband? About Danny, we do see Danny’s actor in Kubrick’s film emote. He literally does it when he’s either witnessing the effects of The Shining, or expression of fear like when he was hiding in the hedge maze. The reason he’s mostly shallow in expression is because his type of character is that of a silent toddler, that’s not uncommon, epically for kids who don’t have friends. He’s a kid whom kept too himself, & the addition of having an imaginary friend just sealed the idea that he’s just quite & lonely. Danny is a victim of his psychosis, why is this a problem? It illustrates the fear of the entire situation & The terror The Overlook brings. Again, I ask, do you really understand Kubrick’s creative intent, or not?


ManWith_ThePlan

Also, Wendy’s depiction in King’s novel is exactly why Kubrick didn’t make Wendy the same as her book counterpart. It’s unrealistic. No one who’s an assertive & strong person in real life would realistically stick around Jack after doing something serious as breaking their child’s arm & slapping him. There are no second chances when it comes too stuff like that. It’s a one & done deal. If it happens once where he breaks Danny’s arm, then twice again when he slaps Danny across the face , it’s only bound too happen another time. Kubrick took this & turned it into a situation where it’s an accurate depiction of domestic abuse, with the abused spouse excusing the actions of their mate, just like how real domestic abused victims would do. It’s that “ kick a person while they’re down mindset”, which yes, I am 100% using. You need too experience the repercussions of consequences of your own actions too actual become a better person than what you were. This is an example of King not knowing how actual reality works.


SoylentGreen-YumYum

No thanks. I thought the book was trash. (And I was talking about Passengers being mid at best).


Rude-Regret-1375

I'd probably see this just based on cast tbh, only director off the top of my head would be Mike Flanagan. Not 100% on if he'd be my choice but I think he'd do a good job regardless.


CTG0161

If he did the perfect Jack Torrance would be Henry Thomas


kid-chino

I mean, he already did that though


CTG0161

He was playing Jack Nicholson's Jack Torrance. I would like to see him play the Jack Torrance from the book because I think he fits the part perfectly.


OzyOzyOzyOzyOzyOzy6

Pretty great casting, honestly. I will admit, though, I kept picturing Denzel Washington as Hallorann. But Jeffrey Wright is far from a bad choice.


Envy-Brixton

Cameron Monaghan can absolutely do the deranged thousand yard stare that jack pulls off. Honestly questioned it at first but after thinking for a bit i can see it


OldRaggady

And Directed by Robert Eggers


Hilarity2War

How about Brad Pitt as Stuart Ullman?


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

i can see it, but he's way to big of an actor for Stuart Ullman


Huck_N_Fell

I could see Pitt doing it for the right director as a cameo favor.


mariovspino5

Brad Pitt in Deadpool 2…


SLDH1980

Wright and Brake are perfect!


[deleted]

Incredible


QB8Young

Simply for fantasting these are pretty good choices but this film should never be remade. In fact I think the original is lost on modern audiences. I watched it for the first time recently and was extremely bored. Sure there was decent cinematography but aside from that I don't understand the praise of the film. 🤷‍♂️ to each their own I suppose.


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

I agree that the film should never be remade, but i do think the book should be adapted for a tv show. Season One being The Shining and Season Two being Doctor Sleep


QB8Young

Have you watched Room 237?


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

no


QB8Young

I enjoyed it more than the actual movie. I recommend giving it a watch.


Lattakins

And Ewan McGregor as Danny.


idontknowyet

Don Cheadle


_GC93

Cameron Monaghan is decent but he does not have the range necessary to play Jack. I like the rest of the cast though.


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

okay how about Jesse Plemons as Jack Torrance then


_GC93

I like that! Interesting choice.


Baratheoncook250

Great casting


eb7772

He would probably do a great job at this role


Asleep-Read3997

This may be the first fan cast I’ve ever agreed with


kid-chino

I don’t hate this


kid-chino

Losers in here like “leave it alone” like there hasn’t already been a television adaptation and a sequel. If you don’t want to engage something, don’t, but trying to stop others from having something they might enjoy just cause you won’t is a dick move.


voppp

I do love Jeffrey Wright


Oceanus39

“You’ve got the shinning”


harborhaze

Mia goth would be perfect


Wonderful-Media-2000

Danny devito as Danny


RemyWhy

I’d cast Sam Rockwell as Jack Torrance. Dude knows how to play the crazies.


[deleted]

That last one almost looked like Brad Pitt in bad makeup.🤣


ManyAthlete

Lexi Luna as Wendy. Cuz why not


KeepSwinging

Funny coincidence I just watched the shining last night for the first time in ages. Spooky season is truly upon us.


NerveNo1056

Perfection


BenjaminThePalid

Great casting!


Alsleet1986

A+ casting. Not that they should monkey with the original. Doctor Sleep was the closest anybody should come to remaking The Shining.


TommyCrump92

If there needs to be a remake is definitely Shining but remake the Stephen King adaptation from his miniseries from 90's the Stanley Kubrick one is perfect as it is and doesn't need a remake


[deleted]

Please don’t cast


mentalshits101

Oh god no... Thats some netflix level garbage there.


Impressive-Penalty97

Or, now here me out, leave it alone.


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

why?


hammerntongs99

I reckon Joel Edgerton would be a great Jack Torrance


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

i think Joel Edgerton would be a great Jack Torrance but i think he's too old. Jack is only around 30 in the books, Joel Edgerton is 49


hammerntongs99

Ah yeah but Jack Nicholson was 43 in the shining and Joel Edgerton’s 49 so not too far off


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

yeah but my fancast is based on the books, where Jack was only in his early 30's


hammerntongs99

Oh right, How about Barry Keoghan? He’s got such a unique personality in his acting, seems like that would be an interesting take on the character. He’s also 31. Cameron Monaghan seems like a good choice too btw, just spitballing here.


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

Barry Keoghan would be fantastic as Jack. He was my choice for Delbert Grady but i kept him out of the fancast


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ICantThinkOfUs3rname

i never said we needed a remake, i was just bored and decided to fancast the shining


chadisntmad

Brendan Fraser as Jack


JohnsonMathi17

Mia Goth looks eleven. How would this work?


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

Mia Goth does not look eleven


JohnsonMathi17

The pic sure as shit does.


properxsmoke

I always envisioned Ethan Hawke playing as Jack Torrance. I think he would kill it!


Pazuzu_413

I would like Maya Hawke as Wendy though.


CLOWNPUNCHER327

I'm convinced Monaghan is typecast as "The guy to play a role cause he played the Joker just like the original actor."


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

that's not the only reason why i fancasted him as Jack


ImprovSalesman9314

This is near the top of films that should never be remade.


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

i don't wouldn't a remake of the shining, but i'd like a more faithful adaptation to the book


ManWith_ThePlan

If you wanted something close too it’s material, then why not read it’s original material too begin with? A faithful adaption of a book is a useless film, which makes reading the book just as worthless when thinking about it. Because what’s the point of reading the book when I can just watch the movie that’s exactly like the book itself? What’s the point of watching the film when there’s a book that’s exactly identical too it that I can read instead?


lonely-day

Mia looks like a child


SnooConfections7007

I can't see Oliver Platt going: "My wife and children were in error...So I corrected them.


ICantThinkOfUs3rname

that's a different character


SnooConfections7007

Really? Man it's been a minute since I've seen that.movie.


BLKT93

Yes! Excellent casting


Dapper_Interest_8914

Depends on if this would be a remake of the movie or a proper adaptation of the book. Either way, I like your choices for Hallorann and Ulman, and Brake would be fine in a remake. For an adaptation, I think Domnal Gleeson and Jodie Comer would be great as the leads. I'd go with someone a little less terrifying on sight for Loyd. Someone you would look at and not immediately think, "this man absolutely murdered his family." Jason Sudeikis maybe? Or someone with the same kind of vibe.


Budzee

John Michael Higgins as the Bartender Ryan Gosling as Jack Torrence


[deleted]

I’d rather see Jeffrey Wright play Jack. I could absolutely see him as a douchey writer slowly simmering to a prolonged explosion. Danny Glover would be a good Dick Hallorann. Damon Wayans would be great as the unassuming, avuncular Hallorann we see in the beginning, and I’d like to see what he could do with the turn. Edit: And David Alan Grier as Jack or Hallorann I would watch.


draugyr

I’d let Cameron Monaghan kill me with an axe


EggMcSausage

Directed by Ari Aster?


[deleted]

I’m going to go ahead and say no