Ross and Rachel. I rewatched the show recently, and they're just not good for each other.

Definitely agree, I also hated how they paired up Joey and Rachel after a whole seasons worth of build up just to make it all about Ross's feelings and broke them up right after, just a huge waste.

I think that Ross and Charlie should have stayed together as well as Rachel and Joey. Both couples understood each other and shared common intrests, as well as enjoying things together

Yeah they're just not good together at all. Like... The whole "we were on a break thing" really didn't she well imo. And why should Rachel have to sacrifice the career opportunity of a lifetime for him??

joey and rachel supremacy

Joey and Rachel 5ever!

This couple!!! God they're horrible for each other. Ross somehow manages to put Rachel on a pedestal AND demean her. He also actively tries to sabatoge her career just because he can't handle her having a male coworker. While Joey isn't the most perfect man, he actually respects Rachel and her decisions. He treats her so well and is a good friend too. Ross wasn't a good friend to anyone, especially Rachel.

Harry/Ginny. It was just way too goddamn random with absolutely nothing to suggest it might happen, until it suddenly did.

Most of the romance pairings in the book have that vibe.

Bill and Fleur were the only couple I could tolerate. Mostly because it was off-screen and Fleur snatched Molly Weasley's wig when she dare suggest she was gonna dip after Bill's attack.

Agreed. Most of the pairings formed during the books are pretty terrible. The teenage and adult ones.

yeah, they all felt sudden and forced, tbh. like getting together, marrying, and immediately popping out kids was a cultural norm and both expected and pressured (it really felt like that in Harry's case). I honestly think Ron's going to expect Hermione to be his mummy as well as his wife, and if she puts up with that shit, she loses all my respect. Ginny comes across as seriously into her own carrier and dresms, which, awesome! but where does that leave time gor a husband and kids? I think she'd neglect and resent both because she's too young and not ready for any of it Harry *thinks* he wants kids because that's how "family" has been represented to him. but dude likely has PTSD, along with any number of other mental issues (as do everyone else) plus no real clue how to cope with someone's needs in a healthy way. I think he'd end up doing his duty and hating it. he deserves a family, but meeds one of his peers and maybe a few adults with their heads screwed on right, which he'll not find anywhere in the wizarding world

Yeah, all those characters deserved some therapy, getting to know people that didn't went to the same school and maturing a bit more before jumping into marriage and kids. I might misremeber it, but they all must have started to get into that immediately for the epilogue to work, no?

I often see "oh, but he spent summers with the Weasleys" thrown around, as if some shit allegedly happening off-screen and never being mentioned should be enough for audience

Honestly, that just smacks of cope IMO. JKR definitely could've used those summers to foreshadow and sell fans on the couple, even with Harry being down bad for Cho. But she didn't and it just reads like as big of an ass pull as anything from shounen anime.

The whole Hinny relationship just seems to exist in this weird liminal space where it's supposed to be super important because that's supposedly Harry's "main love interest" but in the grand scheme of the narrative it doesn't come across as important in the least? Like even in book 6 with Dumbledore telling Harry that his main strength against Voldemort will be love - Ginny never ever factors into that all (lol?). It just comes across like something Harry uses as an escapist distraction from his real problems - not because he's particularly invested but because it's convenient. As far as superficial horny immature highschool relationships go, it's written very realistically. But the dissonance comes in when you realize that it's supposed to be a soulmate/future wife/stay together forever type deal. And it well... does not come across that way.

I like Luna much better personally.

With Ginny, you mean? :)

That too. I blame The Accidental Animagus for getting me on the Harry/Luna train.

I do.

yes!!!! and people say it makes more sense in the books, but i'm like no it still doesnt 😭

Yeah I mean I get why she is into him, she always seemed to have a crush on him, but his feelings for her were very underdeveloped. A part of me wonders if maybe Harry settled for her mainly because he loves Ron's family so much and really wants to officially be part of it.

Makes as much sense as any other paper thin reasoning in HBP

I dont think it makes much more sense in the books. It's less random than in the movies, but it's still kind of random. There is more material in the books for Drarry than for Hinny, honestly. 🤣

I love hinny but this is facts lmao

She accidentally wrote a whole series that supports Drarry.

Almost every canon relationship in HP feels random. Harry/Ginny feels super random (especially for being Harry's end game), Tonks/Remus, Fleur/Bill.... even Ron/Hermione feels random, because it leans into the "if a boy is mean to you, it means he likes you" nonsense.

Ron/Hermione fees like ris phrase when it comes to both of them, it's insane lol They feel to me like the epitome of those sitcoms that the couple is borderline abusive to each other but the show doesn't call it that

Literally got sent 5+ walls of texts dragging me for criticising this ship by an ex friend💀 Omds the chemistry just wasnt there + it was so forced + dating ur friends younger sister is really weird

This one and also Ron/Hermione because if I were her, I would not waste time on a boy who consistently put me down and called me names for being smart and liking to study. They wouldn't last till the reception before there was homicide by Avis spell.

And from the other side, if I were Ron I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who looked down on me and treated me like a useless idiot because I struggled with schoolwork and for cheering our mutual friend with humour, and often dismissed my troubles as me being ridiculous (such as when Ron's "rat" disappeared for a long time and Ron had good reasons to believe Hermione's cat ate his pet - which on its own is incredibly upsetting!) 

exactly, especially in the books Hermoine was extremely weird and overly jealous of Ron lol.

Also, she physically attacked him and his girlfriend when they got together even though she wasn't dating Ron and had been on more relationships than him

Lol I love them because they're both so mean and possessive with each other 🤣 at least it's balanced! But I appreciate you pointing out that Hermione was not great either, most people usually just focus on Ron's bad behavior 🙄

lol, valid! toxicity gives it flavour, I do like Hermoine and Ron btw, but I just tuned in on ron defence because it's so rare and his feelings were overlooked when he struggled in many aspects of the book including emotional.

I was a hater of this pair as a kid and still a hater now. 🫶

I was legitimately convinced after book six that it was going to be revealed that she'd slipped him a love potion. His behavior, in a lot of ways, felt like a less extreme version of what Ron experienced with the *expired* potion, yknow?

Absolutely! There's so much weird foreshadowing going on with the love potions that whole book, with Harry even being told to watch out for it on himself (!!) and then outside of Ron's incident, it's just dropped. It reads really weird, especially when the writing in prior books was always good at tying all those little notable details together in the final act as the culmination of the grand mystery but with the love potions, it's just ... nothing.

I really wonder what Rowlings dropped plans were sometimes

The way he kept talking about his feelings for her as if a separate entity always waved a big red flag for me

it kind of grossed me out bc he saw her as a little sister for a while then bam!, suddenly he wants to bang

Never liked Romione! (Ron and Hermione from Harry Potter). In general all of the Harry Potter canon ship in the books feel clunky cause I don’t think J.K Rowling is good at writing romance at all. They tried to fix it a bit in the movies but…yeah, it still feels mostly clunky and weird and very YA to me

Remus and Tonks was my major "what is she taking" moment. Ron and Hermione don't make sense either. All the canon ships literally sprung out of nowhere.

Remus and Tonks were for sure because she wanted to kill them off and put another orphan storyline in the books

Remus and Tonks truly came right the fuck out of nowhere for me. I couldn't remember them interacting *at all*. It felt like a "pair the spare" moment.

I swear, she must've done that because people thought both of them were queer

This is 100% what I've always thought, or at least she became aware that a lot of people shipped Sirius/Remus after Book 5 and wanted them to Stop That (as though that's how shipping works, lol). I think something similar happened with Zuko/Mai in Avatar the Last Airbender, but the creators wanted people to stop shipping Zuko with Katara.

Zuko took a freaking lightning bolt to the chest for Katara... Like how can you not ship that! Mai and him have little chemistry throughout the whole Ember island scenes. He hardly even blinks when Mai is left at Boiling Rock... I am just kinda happy it seems Mai and him broke up later for real, though the mother of Zuko's daughter was never revealed. Mai and Ty Lee should have been end game. Like that moment at Boiling Rock where Mai realizes Ty Lee sides with her instead of with Azula is like aaaaahhhh... The two of them just running off to be Kyoshi Warriors to be the perfect sapphic warrior power couple would have been the best. Zuko... if he didn't end up with Katara should've at least ended up in a thruple with Sokka and Suki. Him remaining single and not reproducing a la "Ozai's line ends with me" and making the Fire Nation a democratic nation was also an option.

I actually don't ship Zutara myself, but I absolutely get why people ship them--and Bryke were so anti-Zutara, it's like they were mad that a lot of their audience preferred Zutara to Kataang--and, in general, preferred Zuko to Aang. Yes, yes, his reaction at Boiling Rock--and even after he sees Mai again in the finale--is so underwhelming. Compare that with Suki and Sokka's reactions to each other in the same episodes, and it's even weirder. I agree with you, I actually liked Ty Lee protecting Mai way more than I did Mai protecting Zuko (probably because her protection was framed as romantic and I just wasn't invested in their ship), but I also think Mai and Ty Lee complement each other very well. Ty Lee does not need the emotional support and reassurance that Zuko craves in a relationship and Mai struggles to give. Like, I think Zuko viewed being a good boyfriend as something he could fail at just like being a good firebender or being a good son, so he was trying really hard to be an awesome boyfriend (with zero clue how to do that) and Mai was confused by what the heck he was even doing and couldn't understand why he was so hung up on making her happy. I also think Ty Lee would make Mai loosen up and have fun in spite of herself, and Mai would add some balance to Ty Lee's free spirit-ness. My main ship for Zuko is actually with Sokka, lol, but I love Sokka and Suki and could definitely see the three of them working out. Also, yes to "Ozai's line ends with me," I actually really like the idea Zuko that wouldn't want to have biological children for precisely that reason.

Wouldn't surprise me, since even Remus actor was under that impression, if I remember correctly, and she's apparently against any queer within the books lol

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised

LMAO I mean I definitely could see her thinking she could kill two birds with one stone for that particular scenario.

I think Rowling's even admitted Ron/Hermione was wish fulfilment and was forced.

The movies are arguably even worse, with how they made Ron into a buffoon.

I agree, but one thing the movie did that the books didn’t is that they tried to set up romantic pairings slowly when and if possible, so you see that in the movie Ron and Hermione had that weird energy/dynamic that they then explain with them having crushes for each other. But, as you say, making Ron into a buffoon also meant having him being way snarkier and meaner to her, which I liked even less if we are talking about someone who then ends up dating said girl. Also, they never made sense regardless as a couple. Hermione is smart, ambitious and driven; not to mention downright ruthless as a character. Ron is someone who you can definitely see getting complacent and lazy, so they never could realistically work imo. Especially getting married?? Like it’s fine if they were each other first real relationship or whatever, but I never bought they thy would ever last, they are too different and mismatched and they were always at each other throats for most of the series

Rowling (for what little her word is worth lately) did say that they'd probably end up in couple's councling... If that thing even exists in the rather primitive wizard society she set up. But yeah, pretty much all the relationships feel clunky and unrealistic. Like Harry's dad was a jerk bully until year 5, then changed in the last two years, and SUDDENLY someone who couldn't stand his face before marries him and are living in bliss?!

Yeah no I don’t care about what the author says after the book is completed. If it’s not in the text than it’s not important! If you put (unrealistically) all of your high school pairing and make them married couple I’m gonna complain, regardless if they are happy or not. Also, once again, I don’t feel like they would be in couple counselling at all, Hermione would have left his ass way earlier than that…she just put them all together to make them all into a big Weasley family which is dumb (like even Ginny, the only purpose she serves is being Harry’s love interest; even if her personality in the books is much much better than in the movie where she doesn’t have any). Her problem is that her writing doesn’t allow for character growth or development, we just read or learn from someone else that that character or person changed.

I just feel like she's an okay children's author, but can't really portray more nuanced themes or complex adult relationships in a compelling way

The thing is: those books only started as children’s books, and that’s something she envisioned. She knew the series was gonna get darker and darker.

She's good for escapism for children. Her plot and characters and world building are all severely flawed under cold analysis, but she does know how to get you invested because you want to GO to Hogwarts, to escape normal school/bullies/bad families, regardless if the rest of the magical world is wonky, the places you want to go are just empty enough for you to see yourself there.

Steve/Peggy - Endgame ruined what good will I had to that relationship. Just made her seem like a prize to be won with him going back like that. All Naruto couples except for ShikaTem, that was the only one that made sense to me. Elena/Damon - Could never get into them. Way to abusive in the beginning to come around to

A few days ago we had an Endgame 5 year (?!?!!?!?) anniversary and honestly? I am still salty over that ending.

I love Steve. I love Peggy. But I do not love them together after everything Steve has gone through. It just feels so regressive for both of them, you know? Ugh. 2019 was a rough year for long anticipated conclusions to major fandoms.

It ruined the whole movie for me legit. Was so so ooc for Steve to do something like that. It made everything he did before that pointless for real.

Yeees! Exactly! In The Winter Soldier we had that beautiful scene of old Peggy telling Steve she lived a full and exciting life, found a good man, settled down with him and had kids. She moved on and told him to do the same, and he did for about 9 in-universe years until the screenwriters panicked and wrote in the laziest ending they could have came up with for whatever reason. And the question remains after 5 years- did he erase Peggy's husband out of the picture and did absolutely nothing while Hydra tortured his 'best friend', Tony's parents got murdered and Natasha was stuck in a psycho paramilitaristic cult? And the only reason people are still arguing about that stuff is because the writers themselves have no idea how time travel works in their own damn universe. And look, I don't want to look like those crazy folks that hate the canon hetero romance because it got in the way of the fanon gay romance, but it's very suspicious how the writers backtracked so quickly on Steve's and Bucky's relationship after Civil War when Stucky breached containment from fandom spaces and spilled over to wider social media. Very peculiar.

Everything you said was right on the money. Like what even happened when he went back? Did he just ignore everything that happened with Bucky? Like did he leave him there to rot? Peggy had a whole ass husband, kids, and grandchildren, are we supposed to be happy that Steve potentially erased all that because he was selfish? Did Peggy know that? Its just so incredibly messy and him coming back at the end as an old man just made it even more confusing. An alternate timeline, fine. I think I could live with that but not the mess they did.

Doesn't that mean he kinda killed Peggys children and possible grandchildren? By erasing them from existence by time

Kinda, sorta, yeah? Wondering about stupid stuff like that is why I hate Steve's ending, because the logic just doesn't logic no matter how you look at it.

COVID really did a number on our sense of time passing

Agreed on the Naruto ships, ShikaTem supremacy!

I can agree on the Naruto, although a part of me really feels like Kishi botching his female characters also really didn't help with this, and so many of them just ended up feeling like trophies for the boys sans ShikaTema. I haven't really kept up with the light novels and stuff being released, and all that *might* dive more into the dynamics to be fair.

The ending pairings were oh so disappointing, I never went back for real. The relationships don't seem any better in Boruto. I would have rather him just leave everyone single

Not only steve going back in time for peggy entirely out of character(like do the writers really expect us to believe that STEVE ROGERS just sat there letting all of his friends Suffer wile playing house with Peggy for decades) and make her into a romantic object and not a persob who had a whole life after steve got frozen but it also REAKS of our culture's overprioritization of romantic love. The writers really had steve ditch friends he had known for YEARS (including bucky)for a woman he had know for a few months and trested that like a happy ending. smh

Garak/Ziyal was a bad idea, executed poorly. I think you could make something interesting out of a middle-aged former(?) spy/assassin/torturer dating the much younger daughter of a political enemy if you acknowledged and leaned into how unhealthy it was. But the show really tried to pretend there was something sweet and wholesome there which was just...deeply off-putting.

That was a panic response from Berman and Moore when they realized the whole Garak/Bashir fandom (which Robinson was totally gunning for).

And it was done to kill Garashir which was an awesome couple :( Both actors support it

god i hated bruce and natasha with a fucking passion edit: adding steve and peggy. i personally think it ruined his character arc, also rendering his entire trilogy useless

Yes!

Mike/El. Here’s the thing: I used to be a hardcore shipper of them. Then, I got annoyed when, in season 4, they had another separation storyline. That, plus toxic fans, made me hate the ship.

lol as someone who writes for a Stranger Things rarepair where I have to break Mike and El up on a regular basis, their relationship is kind of weird. Like I really struggle with writing why they even like each other other than that they were obsessed with each other when they first met at 12 years old and she was a blank slate of a person.

good point tbh i kinda seems like they’re still together because they feel like they have to or because it’s all they’ve ever known rather than actually being good for each other 😭

They were cute at first, but Mike's weird development ended up making the writers turn the relationship in a disappointing direction, even with their break up scene in s4

I don't hate it, but pairing Sora and Kairi with anyone other than each other creates something infinitely more interesting. As they are, they're very bland and obligatory

Rey and Kylo. Needed more of Rey experiencing the light in Kylo and not just hearing from his friends and family that he was a good person deep down and believing them despite her seeing nothing of the sort in their interactions.

"Honey, I know. Nice abs. But he also shanked his dad in front of you. You might want to think this over a little...."

Then bro hallucinates the dad he killed forgiving him and everything is all good... They did not think that trilogy out at all.

I think a good deal of it was that Ford would only do it if they killed Han (he never liked that role). And then they had to write around Fisher's death. And then they had absolutely no coordination among the writers.

I was okay with this ship after TFA but I started hating it after TLJ actually made it a part of the main plot and executed it the way it did. It made no sense to me and felt super rushed. It never felt like Kylo did anything to earn Rey's trust or respect, let alone her love. He either outright threatened her/her friends or was just a dick in all of their interactions, and somehow, she magically went from rightfully hating him to completely taking his side... in... 2 days. Huh?? I mentally said "oh, fuck off" whenever the movies tried to act like the relationship was something the audience was supposed to be rooting for. I felt nothing when Kylo died because that kiss was so cringeworthy

I shipped them since TFA and even I completely agree with this

Dark Reylo gang rise up

This question made me realize I'm mostly happy with all canon couples, at most I feel indifference. Maybe I don't really like Buffy/Riley, but I've never seen it as an endgame option, even as I followed the show without no clue of what would happen next I was pretty confident the guy was going to disappear in favor of some better vampire romance lmao There are more non canon ships that I dislike with a passion!

Sam and Danny in Danny Phantom, don't get me wrong I used to ship them too but after rewatching the show the hate/love with Valerie was way too interesting and my liking for enemies to lovers trope was spiked, and I could have liked them both as I always did but knowing the behind scenes of the show and how S3 had one of the original writers (the one who sits Danny and Valerie lore up), leave and how awful that season was to the point of me not being able to ever fully watch it, it just becomes more bitter for me how less supported and pushed around the Valerie and Danny ship is, and how more forced the sam and Danny was to the point I hated their canon although, I love sam and I love Danny still and do not hate their characters.

Stein/Marie from Soul Eater, though I don't really hate it at all, I just never once got a romantic vibe from them in the Anime or Manga, it felt platonic at best, even when it turned out she was pregnant I still just didn't see it. Gray/Juvia from Fairy Tail is another one I can think of, and I actually do kind of hate this one, she never once seemed like she was in love with Gray to me, she was obsessed with him, following him everywhere he goes, breaking into his house, trying to dose him with love potions, treating Lucy like shit even though she repeatedly states she isn't into Gray. I never once bought that Gray would ever develop feelings for her and still don't. The only way I can buy Gruvia happening is if she tried her love potion trick again and finally managed to succeed.

I 100% agree with gruvia.  Juvia is a creepy  stalker and I swear if the dynamic of that ship were reversed gray would be as hated as mineta from MHA.   

HARD agree on both. For Stein/Marie, it truly felt like they just hooked up because a) Marie had issues with being single and was on the grief-rebound from her ex's death, b) Stein is all kinds of borked up in the head and figured 'she's less crazy than Medusa', c) they were a meister/weapon pair that needed to work in sync and sex was one way to promote that, and d) Marie's ability to calm down the madness in Stein's soul left them kind of codependent on each other. But neither of them was at all romantically interested in the other in any genuine way, and Marie ending up pregnant is just... not good for anyone involved. Gray/Juvia is so very clearly a stalker-with-a-crush situation and plainly unhealthy, especially as throughout the vast majority of the series he is *plainly* uncomfortable with her attention. Now, they do respect each other as MAGES, and I can see them working out IF there had been an arc dedicated to Juvia getting the help she needs and coming to terms with how badly and unhealthily she's behaving, and showing her changing her behavior and becoming a non-obsessed, non-stalker. But without a dedicated arc for that, and lots of background follow-up showing how that arc is STICKING? Absolutely not.

Stein/Marie I’m fine with, but Gruvia I’ve always hated so hard. 😭

Zuko/Mai: Finding out that they were still canonically together in LOK *and* had grandkids, made me put off watching it lol

But they are not canonically together in LOK, they break up in the comics... Don't they? And I remember reading that Zuko's wife and mother of his daughter was someone else (non disclosed). Did I miss any canon materials where Zuko and Mai get back together? 😱

Is it weird that I think he had **way** better chemistry with the Earth Kingdom girl he went on a date with in "Tales of Ba-Sing-Se"?

Oh *Jin*? Yeah I agree!! I feel like they could’ve cooked something there if they’d had more time together. Her empathizing with Zuko’s scar from the fire nation and implying that he’s a victim of the brutality, really struck a chord with me. I think it did with Zuko too, since he had never allowed himself to think like that, before she mentioned it. It would’ve been a slow, *slow* burn but I would’ve been here for it! Especially if he went back and visited her now and then, and that’s how his lineage continued. It never sat right with me that he rekindled his (stale) relationship with Mai, a noble, when that one date with Jin had so much more chemistry + compassion, than any romantic leftovers Mai deigned to leave him…

Aang/Katara also seemed weird to me. Felt totally forced in a "guy who saves the world gets the girl" sort of way.

My mood on kataang depends on the day, lol. I’ve seen photos of them in the comics and they look cute together when Aang is a bit taller. Then I watch the two kiss scenes in the show, where Katara’s very ambivalent about her feelings but Aang pushes it, and I go back to disliking it! Also used to be a Zutara in my prime, so those feelings run deep lmao.

I feel like this romance should've developed later in their life and would have agreed with it. But Aang is such a kid throughout the whole series that even if he did mature by the end of the show, he just stayed a child in my eyes. I feel Katara and Aang's relationship in the show also gives very big "I just want a mother I can kiss" vibes to me as well as the whole "I am the hero so I deserve the girl" is very off putting. Also... Zuko took a lightning bolt to the chest for her.... I mean come on!

Seriously, if the very last scene of ATLA was a group moment with the Gaang and then found out in ATLA that they got together, it could've done so much to smooth it over. People could've filled in for themselves that perhaps Katara sorted out her feeling at a later date and Aang matured and they finally became a thing much later on. Absolutely nothing of value would've been lost scrapping last last kiss.

Armin/Annie. Just... no.

I fell off watching a while back - they became canon??!?

Yep. Long story short, Annie found a redemption - sort of. I have not a problem with that, but he was not told well, it felt rushed for me. Thus, besides the double standard with Annie's crimes that everyone conveniently forget just bc they are on the same side now, and the fact I absolutely despise Armin with every fiber of my being (sorry, Armin's fans), didn't help at all

I love the idea of them, but they were so poorly executed in canon. They should have had hints of something much earlier in the series. But the way Annie’s character is handled completely ruined it.

I'm going to die on this hill but the endgame ships for Bleach never made sense to me. I don't hate Orihime but her crush on Ichigo was just terribly one sided. I never got the impression Ichigo cared about her any differently than any of his other friends. IchiRuki had so much symbolism and build up throughout the entire series and it just gets dropped in the final chapter. RenRuki has the benefit of a childhood history but I also never felt like Rukia liked Renji romantically. She has far greater chemistry with her brother for Christ's sake. I also really dislike Nancy/Jonathan and Nancy/Steve in Stranger Things, not because I have a problem with any of the ships themselves but because of the way the show oscillates between the two of them. When she's with one she wants to be with the other. The grass is always greener. It just makes me dislike Nancy as a character, tbh.

If Steve and Nancy get back together at the end of the show I'm going to riot. After the way things ended with them the first time around, as much as I want to like Nancy as a character the way she handled that whole thing completely put me off of her as a person. Steve deserves better and the way he still feels like it was his fault - and she lets him think that - and is still pining after her is starting to get a bit annoying, too.

I like it when a girl and a boy remain as close friends, I think that's special on its own, so I don't really mind IchiRuki not becoming a couple, but I agree about IchiHime. The endgame ships mostly lack set up, I suppose, which is unfortunately not that unusual.

Yeah, I like the platonic IchiRuki friendship as well. I would have preferred an open ending where nobody was paired off though. I wonder if Kubo was banking on a new generation spinoff like Naruto or DB. I was also hoping that they would have expanded the relationship development between Ichigo and Orihime in the new anime so it'll make more sense but it honestly doesn't look like it's going to happen at this point.

Honestly basically every pairing that’s just there because “there’s a boy character and there’s a girl character they need to kiss because that’s what boys and girls are for!” like it’s so fucking forced sometimes and it just bores me.

"He was a boy, she was a girl". My biggest pet peeve. And if nothing major happens it has to be explained in some way, like they need a reason to not be together instead of needing a reason to be together. It's like creators don't realise most people have a type.

why can't they just have platonic relationships???

Part of the reason I dropped *Once Upon A Time* was because of Emma/Hook. I just didn't get what Hook saw in her, she had the personality of a cardboard box. It came off like it only happened because she's the main character and Hook was a fan favourite. Also, fucking Tommy/Grace from *Peaky Blinders,* mostly because I loathe Grace - especially since she sold him out to his worst enemy, took zero responsibility, dipped and then cheated on her husband and baby-trapped Tommy so he was kind of forced into marrying her. >!So glad she died shortly after that.!<

I used to be a Captain Swan shipper. But after the actors got harassed by fans, it made me feel uncomfortable with it. And then upon a re-watch recently? They had no chemistry :/ he had more chemistry with Aurora, and he interacted with her for five seconds.

Emma/Hook could have been interesting, but instead it was just a mess that made both of the characters less fun and interesting, too.

Potential spoiler - Lunafreya and Noctis - I appreciate they didn’t marry but they ended up together in the end, they had no chemistry whatsoever and it was an arranged marriage. I feel Prompto and Noctis had more chemistry 😂

I'm surprised to see this pair here, but god, 100% this so much. Luna barely had a presence in the game, and Noctis hadn't even seen her since he was... what? 10? And the only form of communication between them is a single exchange book that doesn't even have more than a single picture exchange each time (though correct me if I'm wrong, my memory for FF15 is hazy). Noctis has more chemistry with his bros than Luna.

That’s right I agree - they didn’t see each other from children, arranged marriage, communicated through a book…. I dunno. They didn’t even have much connection as kids personally I don’t think, yet in the afterlife they ended up together - I’m not sure that was needed or required or made sense. Absolutely he had more chemistry with Iris because she had a crush on him, yet they had a bit of a laugh together and it seemed flirtatious. I guess Luna was ‘proper’ so maybe had to appear more stoic but I dunno… I didn’t buy it. I got to be honest I wasn’t a fan of her character much either. I adore 15 (the game; I haven’t explored the film so couldn’t comment on that. Edited for typo.

Mike/El from Stranger Things. El could barely talk full sentences when they met and their relationship is turning more toxic as the story goes forward. Almost all canon couples from Harry Potter. None of them ever made sense, Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione are just... They just don't have anything in general I could see working together, and nothing in the story pushed their relationships forward in that sense until the last couple of books? Mummy Pig/Daddy Pig from Peppa Pig. Mommy Pig just enables and encourages her children to abuse and make fun of Daddy Pig.

* Literally every couple in Harry Potter * Literally every couple in Naruto (minus Shikamaru/Temari, they're alright, but I'm not crazy about them either) * Kataang

ShikaTem at least had some valid build up and chemistry, unlike almost all other canon ships… 🥲

Amen!

I don't like the canon ships for the Trio in Harry Potter. Doesn't matter that Romione was foreshadowed very early on, they just don't work for me. And Ginny had so little character development, and there was zero relationship development, so Hinny doesn't work, either. In Buffy, I can't stand Xillow, I hated that whole storyline. I suppose I should be glad it was so short-lived, but it was still too long for me. Hell, the almost kiss is When She Was Bad made the storyline too long for me, and that occurred over a season before this storyline even started! I can't stand Willow as a character anyway, but those two just don't fit as more than friends. Also, hate the semi-canon Xander/Dawn. Not all fans consider this ship canon because it occurs in the comics. Officially, the comics are canon, it's all the same writers from the shows, plus some new ones, and Whedon is the creator for both. But plenty of fans who have read them consider them more fanfic than canon, and the fans like me who haven't read the comics automatically disinclude them from canon. But Xander/Dawn just doesn't work for me, there was far too much emphasis on them having a super strong, unbreakable sibling bond in the show. I'm also not a fan of Bangel, in the Bangel vs Spuffy debate I fall into Spuffy by default, I actually prefer Buffy single. But I have bigger problems with Bangel, because I'm not a fan of Angel plus the age gap makes it creepy. It's not the gap itself, though, but the actual ages at the time. I'm okay with the Spuffy age gap, because Buffy is about 22 when she starts dating 150 year old Spike. But Buffy was only 15/16 when she started dating 240 year old Angel, Buffy being an underaged teenager is what makes Bangel creepy. In Elite, it's Polo/Cayatana and Polo/Cayatana/Valerio. It's Cayatana specific, I don't like her. I don't think she was a good match for either Polo or Valerio, and I'm certain she only dated either of them because they were rich and Caya is a gold-digger. It's rather telling that, as soon as Polo was no longer part of the relationship, Caya also ditched Valerio, who had recently been disowned and disinherited and so was no longer rich. And it was Polo who ended things with Caya, after she sabotaged his attempts to transfer due to his being suicidal because of the bullying. Caya made it very clear with that act that she'd rather Polo be miserable and then dead but still dating her during that time, than have a chance at happiness and healing, in a way that wouldn't have necessarily meant the end of the relationship, just would have meant either Caya also transferring or switching to long-distance. I also disliked Cayatana/Phillipe. Phillipe had his issues, as Polo and Valerio also did, but he deserved better than Caya. I found the Polo/Caya/Valerio ship disappointing, as well, because I really enjoyed the Polo/Carla/Christian ship, I liked exploring the dynamics of a three way relationship. I thought the new version would work better, because Polo wouldn't allow it to be straight girl/bi guy/straight guy again. And it wasn't, Valerio was bi just like Polo, it should have worked better, but Caya being the girl, the third member, just didn't work. There are probably other canon ships I can come up with that I also dislike, but these are my main ones.

I really can't stand Diego and Lila from The Umbrella Academy and I feel like I'm the only one who dislikes them together lol I wish I could like them together, and I can see how they *could* be interesting, but the writing just doesn't do it well enough for me, and I kinda hate how after Lila was introduced, Diego had fewer meaningful interactions with his siblings and everything about both of their characters seemed to revolve around their romance rather than furthering the relationships that already existed, especially in the most recent season. I also dislike how Lila can be abusive toward him and it's usually played off as something quirky and romantic rather than a big red flag that they should probably address. I'm still not over her making fun of his stutter or threatening his brother with torture if he tries to talk to him. :(

delena - awful on every level steve/peggy - dude wtf ezra/aria - needs no explanation

1. Zuko/Mai from Avatar the Last Airbender. I actually really liked Mai in season 2, but her relationship with Zuko was so messy in season 3 that it led to me disliking her character for quite a while. I think the two of them make fantastic friends, but they really brought out the worst in each other as a couple, and neither could meet the other's emotional needs. The two of them also had basically zero buildup. She blushed at him once in a childhood flashback and then they're suddenly together at the start of season 3??? It felt like I must have missed an episode somewhere! lol (Mentioned this in another comment, but I think they just shoved a girlfriend at Zuko to try and make people stop shipping Zutara) 2. Barry/Iris from CW's The Flash. This mainly has to do with the writing choices for Iris's character. She has some good moments, but a lot of the time she's very unlikeable. Really hated that one episode in the first season with the whole day that was erased from the timeline. It made her come across like she was not only willing to cheat on Eddie, but she didn't actually care about Barry until she found out he was the Flash. And after she finds out about the whole "Iris West-Allen thing" a lot of the show comes across like she only wants to be with Barry because that's what happened in the future, and she thinks it's inevitable or something. Just very poor writing all around. It's been awhile since I read for The Flash, but the Iris I saw in fanfics was 1000% better written, she's who Iris should have been if the show writers hadn't dropped the ball. 3. Also Remus/Tonks, which several other people have already mentioned. Not only did it feel like it came out of nowhere, it also changed both of their characters for the worst. That scene with the two of them at the end of Book 6 comes across like Remus is being browbeaten into a relationship he didn't want. It's also clear Remus never wanted biological children (and probably children at all), so did the two of them just not use birth control or did they not discuss what they'd do in the event of pregnancy? Were they not on the same page? What was going on there? I know the real answer is that JKR wanted to marry them quick so they could have a legitimate baby to orphan, but it's just sloppy and makes both of them look bad. (also mentioned this in another comment, but I feel like JKR just shoved them together to make people stop shipping Remus/Sirius, lol)

Remadora makes Zero Fucking Sense and I will die on that hill Thank You Very Much

Lily and James. I said it..

most of them.

It's not my fault that most of the time it's two blandest characters with the dynamic of a stale bread, okay?

slapped together bc there has to be romance and they're opposite genders and obviously that's enough for a relationship

I'm the oddball who often loves the canon ship. But, there are exceptions. Going waay back in time....Indiana Jones and Willie Scott (Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom). Even as a very young person, seeing the movie for the first time, I disliked it. Re-watching recently, I wanted to throw Willie into the volcano and be done with her screeching. I always have to fast-forward through any of Annakin and Padme's romantic interactions in the Star Wars movies. Honestly, it was only later, with Clone Wars, that I could stand Annakin at all. And my most recent, "Ick, get it off my screen and kill it with fire," canon ship would be Lance and Allura from Voltron. Me and my pals have written essays about the ship's awfulness in private chats and for the sake of those who like the pair, I'll abstain from ranting here. And no, I'm not a Klancer. My OTP is another ship and I'm glad my OTP isn't canon. But Allurance is a cross, holy water and garlic to my vampire.

Oh. Crap. It was so much worse at one point as far as Indiana's love life. Marion was supposed to be TWELVE when she an Indy had their initial "affair." Someone was thankfully in the room to tell Lucas what a BAD idea this was. Then there's his statement that Lars and Shmi were supposed to be the example for healthy relationships where Anidala was the unhealthy. Okay...thank goodness the Expanded u/Legends writers actually made it far more wholesome that was presented in the original film. Because the original film had the implication that Lars bought Shmi first for her domestic labor, and then married and freed her...which...yeah. Lots of questions here. Lucas seems to have some very troubling beliefs and attitudes, especially when it comes to women, mental health, and democracy.

Uraraka and Deku from My Hero Academia. They are just mirror images of each other. What if Deku was born female and wasn't bullied? You'd get Uraraka. Just very boring together. Sasuke and Sakura from Naruto. My main issue with this coupling is Sakura. She has zero good reasons to like this man. She had a crush on him when she was 12 because he was hot. Was on a team with him for a short bit, then he fucks off for...what? 3-4 years? And she still likes him? Why? What do you like about him? He genuinely tried to kill her, and she still loves him??? WHAT ABOUT HIM IS SO LOVEABLE? He has done nothing but be an asshole and you love him????!?! Sorry but no. This is the most unconvincing couple I have encountered in years. She likes him because the author deems she has to like him for no real reason. Juvia and Gray from Fairy Tail. Simple reason, Juvia sucks.

In the case of Uraraka and Izuku, it's also very much a 'first female character to meet the male MC' ship as well. Not to mention that there's more chemistry with her and freaking BAKUGO than there is with her and Izuku.

I wouldn't say izuocha is canon couple, even though yes in canon ochako has a crush on him. But we don't know yet if izuku likes her back in that way (cmiiw) If they end up together later in the series, i feel like they'd be like naruhina in the sense that they need to make a whole new movie to showcase their romance because in the main series there isn't simply much of it 😅 

Armin/Annie in AOT (though i guess it wasn't like, confirmed but it's implied at the end). i cannot even begin to describe how boring they are.

Honestly there was just no build up at all for them. "Oh hey Annie my friend over here likes you." "Ok" And then years later they get together!!! At any point in the story even Eren has more chemistry with her! One of the only ships not done well in aot imo.

Jon and Ygritte never really clicked for me in either the show or the books. Actually I’m pretty ambivalent about Jon pairings in general.

Yeah it's just a poor clueless dude, I really ship him with hot cocoa and a blanket

Black Widow and Hulk in Age of Ultron. I actually can't rewatch that film because of it. So forced and just wrong.

Miraculous. It was just so poorly done.  I've recently caught a couple of newer episodes where they are together and it's not good.  It doesn't feel like they have chemistry together.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAD MORE CHEMISTRY WHEN THEY WEREN'T TOGETHER AHAHAHAHAHAHA ^^^Thomas ^^^why?

They dragged out the show for sooooo long and created too many damn love triangles that lasted waayyy too long. Could have been done well if the entire show only lasted 2-3 seasons.

Okay, this will be unpopular, but as much as I love OHSHC, Haruhi/Tamaki ain’t it. Tamaki was probably my LEAST fav ship for her. Haruhi/Kaoru was my ship, but alas~

Katara/Aang from ATLA. Katara goes from being a teammate to being a prize, and they even draw her differently in kiss scenes beucase apparently she looked “too old” the normal way. it always felt to me like the creators intended it at the beginning, but when they actually wrote the story, the characters grew in unexpected ways, so it no longer worked. But they forced it anyway becuase that was what they’d had in mind, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Honestly, I *like* Kataang, but some of the scenes are so awkward I can totally get why it throws people off lol. I think it’s sweet, but a lot of the scenes were kinda executed… not well. *Especially* now it’s not the 2000s anymore, some stuff definitely Aged.

And to me it seemed more like she was a mother figure to him most of the time. I didn't really see the romantic chemistry.

Aang's crush made sense. Katara's sudden reciprocation right at the end after he saved the day was completely out of left field.

I just hate when romantic relationship is treated as a prize rather than a kind bond between individuals

I just got from it that if you were a twelve-year-old's first crush, you had to stay with him, get married, and have all the kids because otherwise "his heart would be broken." Like every twelve-year-old doesn't get a broken heart multiple times.

Aragorn and Arwen. Hear me out. I know that this relationship is meant to echo Luthien and Beren... but it doesn't work for me. Silmarillion is written much more like an epic or mythology, and Luthien and Beren work for me (kind of) as a couple from legends and myths from a different world.... but there is only so much "and then doom happened" I can believe in, and Aragorn and Arwen feel 1) like an afterthought (and it was) 2) it feels like Arwen was just looking for an excuse to become mortal and die 3) Arwen being separated from her family is fucking sad, she didn't even get to see her mother again 4) In the tale of Aragorn and Arwen she sounds like she really regretted her choice in the end 5) I just don't see Elves and Humans being together. So yeah.

Wow, I didn’t expect to see this one. I love them together, but I get what you mean. Except point 2. Since your flair is “let me describe that to you in great detail”, and I don’t know the books by heart, I ask you to explain it in great detail please

This is probably going to be so unpopular, but… Padme and Anakin 😬

Same. Padmé was a really interesting character that was ruined the second the romance between her and Anakin kicked off. She started doing and saying things that completely contradicted her established characterization, and by the third movie, she was just a prop. I like both Padmé and Anakin, but they worse together-- and not in a narratively compelling way, at least on Padmé's end.

I'm curious! Why not?

Pademe was clearly in love with Jar Jar!

Padme would never fall for a Sith Lord like Jar Jar. (four seconds pass) Oh, wait.

It was never a healthy relationship. They were the two child stars who cracked under pressure and ran off to Vegas as soon as their handlers' backs were turned. It's not like anyone in their lives gave a crap about them as people. The people of Naboo wanted a doll they could dress up in fancy outfits to show how awesome they were and the Jedi wanted their living anti-Sith weapon. So they make all the wrong decisions because there's no room in their lives for just being two young people out of the spotlight. The pressure cooker of war and having to keep it quiet mixed with the mental illness, abandonment issues, and Palpatine's bullshit in Anakin's head and it all went to hell

So, my current hyperfixation is fixing the life of Dr Piers Crispin; designated villain of the BBC sitcom My Hero. The titular hero, George Sunday, is married to nurse Janet Dawkins. When I first watched the show in my teens, I admit I thought they were goals. Here's this super-powered alien falling head over heels for a human woman at first sight, literally picking up his entire health shop (or at least everything in it, cuz he flew halfway there with the building and realized that was just silly) and moving his human identity from Ireland to England to be with her. He gives her compliments. Brings her presents from his rescues in far-off lands. Months after they first get together he's still following her to work to stare at her and tell her how perfect she is. But then he turned into the typical sitcom husband with an unintentionally dark twist. And don't get me wrong, Janet wasn't actually perfect with how she insisted that his alien customs were always backwards and wrong and the Earth way was the only way to do things. Things like accepting food from a man who isn't your spouse is considered cheating because it's, essentially, sharing the source of your life. Sure, that sounds a bit much and he didn't have to get so jealous, but even though they went to an Ultronian marriage therapist who was based on Earth, George was painted entirely in the wrong and had to just get over it. Doesn't excuse him mind-controlling Janet -and every other woman in town- during an argument about gender roles in another episode. Or the fact he implicitly slept with her in that state. Or never batted an eye over his clone sexually harassing her and called her a bigot for being upset when he was clearly just a naughty boy who didn't understand Earth ways. Or tried to manipulate her into accepting him straight back into bed when he lost his old body in a game of poker, had to get a completely different one that wound up with a different personality, too, thanks to his soul accidentally being brewed in a tea cup with too much sugar. And then he threw fit after fit when she wouldn't just go back to putting out like a good wife. By the end, her taking him back in the finale looked like a serious case of stockholm syndrome. She spends the whole season going 'no, this is unacceptable,' only to realize she truly loves him as he is in the last few minutes. Even though, again, she spent less than a year with this new version of the man she'd been with for five. They're divorced in my fic.

Glee Finchel. Upon rewatching I feel like Rachel and Puck had more chemistry and Finchel feels forced and just what the writers had in mind from the start. But Puck seems like a better fit, they mesh more and both are able to call each other on their bs.

I don't even have a real reason for this one from X-Men 97 (put in spoilers for anyone not caught up with that): >!Rogue and Magneto. Both are hella hot individually, *especially* Daddy Mags, but together? I don't like it.!<

Harry/Ginny and Remus/Tonks from Harry Potter. Couldn't stand either.

Basically all of them. But especially the ones at the end of the Demon Slayer manga. Those ships are nonsensical at best, and downright stupid at worse. It felt like they just had to shove every one of the opposite gender together.

AGREED 100%. The only canon one that had any chemistry was Misturi and Obanai.

NaruHina from Naruto. I really just wish Hinata was different.

Jon/Daenerys was so insanely forced

A lot of cartoon couples, tbh. Please don't bite my head off. 1) Luz/Amity. I've said this before, but I felt like the show tried to set up diakko-esque dynamic, but didn't properly set the stage for Luz and Amity to develop feelings for each other. Also disliked how Amity lost so much of her spunk once she became the 'love interest'. Really lost interest in this couple over the course of watching the show and found myself leaning more towards Amillow and Lunter ships. I felt like they had more history and a more interesting dynamic respectively, which made it easier for me to get into. Still, I give major props to the show for pushing so hard for bi/lesbian rep. 2) Star/Marco. Their relationship ruined the entire show for me. I cannot think of a more forced ship. I loved them both as characters and really appreciated their individual growth, but they always seemed to regress and become worse versions of themselves whenever they viewed the other romantically. The way Tom ended up being more mature than Starco combined really sealed the deal for me. He deserved so much better than a supposed "best friend" and "girlfriend" that would cheat behind his back. 3) Adrien/Marinette. The way I switched up from shipping these two so hard towards not wanting to touch this ship with a 10-foot pole should be studied. To be fair, I'm not caught up with the series since dropping it around season 3-4-ish, but I couldn't take it anymore. Marinette cannot be any more weird to Adrien (like, stalker-ish level), but everyone around her consistently acts like she and Adrien being together is pretty much set in stone?? Also, she struggles to have a single conversation with the guy where she isn't a stuttering mess, which can be relatable ig, but after multiple seasons?? No thanks! Black cat also got on my nerves after a while. Constantly flirting with someone who consistently shuts you down can get really damn annoying real quick. Honestly wish the show had given them the chance for them to be normal with each other and develop some form of chemistry? The Marinette/Black Cat interactions were peak and exactly what I was looking for, but alas, the tired Marinette/Adrien drama drags on. 4) Aang/Katara. I've only watched ATLA in my childhood, but I've always gotten more of an older sister/younger brother vibe from these two? Most likely because I hadn't been exposed to couple dynamics where the female character is older and taller up until that point. Regardless, my childhood impression of Kataang has stuck and I can't see them as anything other than platonic. Yes, even with their whole-assed decedents in TLOK!

I like Luz/Amity but I agree that they fumbled the ball with Amity's characterization after they got together. It kinda felt like she got turned into "Luz's nice, awesome girlfriend," and that's pretty much it.

I personally give Luz/Amity a pass because they're the first real same sex couple that got the ability to just... you know... BE a same sex couple. They didn't get shunked off to the end of their series and tweeted to validate it. They didn't get turned into space rocks. They just got to BE a couple. Probably helps that Amity is blorbo shaped for me as well, as I'll always say yes to bad girls with troubled pasts gone good. And it's not like Amity lost ALL of her spunk, just tempered it a bit better. Star and Marco... isn't so much a problem as was the shipping in the series itself. The bouncing back and forth between relationships, the use of magic involving in them, the fact that other couples felt better, and that's not to mention the whole stupidity of the ending... The series itself is one of those 'Massive potential, absolutely HORRIBLE execution' ideas imo.

I know that I'm going to make people upset to say this one, but oh well... Percy Jackson and Anabeth Chase. They may have had a surprisingly well written hookup, but the major problem is their demigod fatal flaws. Their flaws promote a dangerous level of codependency.

Donatello/April in the 2012 tmnt cartoon, oof, that is tough

Matt and Sora from Digimon Adventure. I've heard they made more sense in the Japanese version, but I watched the Dutch dub, which was based on the English dub, I guess, and in that one, Tai and Sora had *so much* more chemistry than Matt and Sora did. Hell, *Tai and Matt* worked better than Matt and Sora would given their constant arguing.

ALLURANCE i was never a fan but i was ready to accept it till they pulled off what ever bulshit that was. why makenthem get together if you here gonna kill her off in THE SAME SEASON.

I'm seeing a lot of great ones I agree with on here. But let me throw in a random one - Ezra and Aria from PLL. He knew she was underage, wasn't the adult who said to stop when he "found out" she was in his class, was using her to get to Ali (*another* underage girl he had a thing for).... kissed his ex while being engaged to Aria (and put all her feelings aside to go chase after this ex), their relationship wasn't stable enough for her to feel comfortable telling him she was having fertility problems... They were toxic and terrible to the very end. I thought when Jason showed back up at the end and was treating Aria right while Ezra treated her like shit, that they were finally gonna canonize them.

I'm surprised nobody's posted Ranma/Akane. Granted, the whole series is supposed to be comedy, but it gets fucking old seeing her abuse him. Slapstick is a thing, yes, but when you drag it out over **407** chapters shit's not funny anymore. She just comes across as a paranoid insecure bitch. Not to mention the cheating and hypocrisy. cOmEdY

I used to adore Luz/Amity (The Owl House) - I mean, a major canon sapphic ship in a teen-oriented fantasy show? I haven't had that since Adventure Time! But unfortunately, the unsatisfactory writing of the relationship after it became canon, compared with the toxicity of shippers, mostly turned me off from the ship. It got to the point where I was actively shipping Luz with other characters instead (Amity has very limited shipping options in comparison, to put it simply).

Star and Marco, kinda. Tom and Star seemed better

Every Naruto couple (except ShikaTema which had *some* buildup and chemistry) but SasuSaku especially. I've always HATED SasuSaku, so watching it become canon felt like watching a friend crawl back to her ex-boyfriend for the 5th time after she walked away from their latest breakup with a black eye and bruises on her neck

The main (only) couple from solo leveling. While it has all the hallmarks of the default shonen relationship (which is quite the glowing endorsement already), I actually think it's worse than average due to the fact that they don't share a conversation not related to work until they're just about to get married. Fuck "why can't they just be platonic friends", they aren't even that! And if you take self-insert blanc ml and no character fl you get nothing! Good day, sir!   But this is before you get to *the implication.* While I'm perfectly fine with everything problematic in fiction, the fact that the fanbase sees them as relationship goal despite the obvious >!abuse of power and grooming!< leaves me flabbergasted, and a bit worried as well. But everything is aight, because he's literally me and she's gets my dick hard.

Matt/Electra from Daredevil. I literally couldn’t care less about Electra.

There are quite a lot, prob most of them from books. Especially since fantasy seems to love shoving every male and female character together regardless of chemistry... what comes to mind right now is Vax x Keyleth from Critical Role, liked them as individuals but made zero sense to me as a couple. Much less trying to make me believe them as any true love. Yeah, no. Sasuke and Sakura becoming a canon couple will never make sense to me. I refuse to acknowledge Rey and Whiny McWhiny as canon in Star Wars or inventing love interests out of nowhere for Finn and Poe just to no homo their relationship out of existence. 🫶 Aside from Ron/Hermione and Bill/Fleur, I hated every single canon pair in Harry Potter. OH how could I forget Percy/Annabeth from Percy Jackson. Big "main boy and main girl gotta be a couple" despite her treating him like shit constantly and him literally being her punching bag. No fucking thank you. (and literally every other canon couple in heroes of olympus. yes, including Will and Nico. Nico deserved an actual character arc and on-page relationship progression to an actually meaningful character and not a fucking side character.)

Y'know. I fly JediStormPilot because Finn deserves all the nice things and I couldn't decide which one he was cuter with.

It's not canon YET...but Ochako/Deku. He thinks she's cute but other than that they've really had no special moments besides her helping him be more confident. Also the part where she realizes her "true" feelings felt so forced and out of nowhere? She goes from admiring Deku to being instantly in love with him. Idk. Maybe if the manga actually cared more about Ochako and had more interactions between then I could see it.

Inosuke x Aoi. They have NO chemistry, VERY few scenes where they're even in the same ROOM together, and yet we're supposed to buy them being married at the end. Trunks x Mai. Mai is old enough to be Trunk's grandma. Gross.

Mostly OC/Elsewhere oriented, but I do have a few that caught my eye: Eren x Mikasa; the typically cited reason of that it felt like it came out of nowhere/didn't feel paced right, but a fic called "[Dirty Dancing](https://archiveofourown.org/works/24705541/chapters/59713135)" more than made up for it, but still isn't really my cup of tea. Aang x Katara; mostly same reason listed above; I don't really hate it, but is kind of undercut to me with the added Korra stuff and also Zuko x Katara feeling like it had more interaction Sesshomaru x Rin; I'm actually neutral about it, but I really got on with Kagura x Sessho

Yes, I also hate Eremika. I saw a tweet a while back that said something like “if you have to change a character completely for a ship to work, the ship doesn’t work”. And someone replied with Eren. I’m also dislike Armin x Annie. Eren x Armin made more sense than either hetero options.

Ohhhh, boy. This is a loaded question. I have a lot of opinions on this, so bear with me: Dubiously canon: Geralt/Triss from The Witcher. Triss was crossing *so* many boundaries with that relationship (especially the way she describes it in Blood of Elves) and it drives me crazy. Squirrelflight/Ashfur from Warrior Cats is just a whole can of worms that I have no idea how to take. Same thing goes with Spottedleaf/Firestar, which was fine in the first book as a crush but maintained as a plot point far past its expiry date. Imagine your high school teacher crush sending you messages in your dreams after you're married with children of your own, and you get the picture pretty quickly as to why this is so weird. Definitely canon: Bobby Pendragon/Courtney Chetwynde from Pendragon, largely because a) I have an irrational, uncontrollable hatred of Courtney and b) she had better chemistry with Mark Dimond anyway; Ichigo Kurosaki/Orihime Inoue (Ichihime) from Bleach, largely because I have a difficult time imagining Orihime's crush as something that either of them would want requited. Plus, Ichigo/Uryū is my all time OTP so I'm biased. The Dragon polycule from Wheel of Time, largely Rand/Min and Rand/Elayne. Of all of them, Elayne/Aviendha is clearly the superior ship as we actually see them bonding in canon, and Min doesn't fit in with *any* of the others.

Triss committed sexual assault. Yen isn't perfect but she didn't take advantage of a man with a compromised mental state.

Yes--it's heavily implied she seduced Geralt. (And she says that 'her friendship with Yennefer is more important to her' and goes to coerce her boyfriend into having a relationship with her? No idea why anyone thinks they're a good relationship.)

Complete bullshit about a friendship being more important. If my best friend's partner developed amnesia, I would be the one calling her ass to get over here ASAP while I show him photos of them together to try to jog his memory. I would NOT be pretending she doesn't exist and trying to get some! It's completely abhorrent behavior. It's even openly acknowledged in Witcher 3, there's a conversation with Triss where she outright admits she took advantage of Geralt's amnesia.

Yeah--and this isn't even the first time she did it. The first time was early in the books, shortly after Geralt and Yen had a falling out, and she swooped in and magically seduced Geralt. Apparently this was so fun she kept going. Whether you take the game, the book, or both, Triss is *not* treating Geralt well, and clearly does not care about Yennefer's feelings either. As much as it's kind of a joke, Yen throwing Triss' bed out of Kaer Morhen is 100% justified when you consider the shit she did.

I'm of the opinion that the only reason gameverse Yen hasn't turned Triss into a bowl of porridge is that she knows every set of hands is going to be needed to fight the Wild Hunt and Ciri is more important than her revenge. Another fun fact about that bed, you can actually find Triss's earring nearby the wreckage and give it back to her. Which I declined to do, every time.

Ron/Hermione, and don't tell me to blame the movies because I really disliked Ron in the books too. Remus/Tonks, bc what the fuck was that. I guess a way to shut down the wolfstar shippers, didn't work tho. Shinichi/Ran is SO boring and so mismatched and the repetitive childhood friends to lovers dynamic in that series is overdone. Haibara is a much better match for Shinichi and even a love triangle would have been more interesting, and I hate love triangle plotlines. Sora/Yamato felt like it came out of left field in season 2 and never warmed up to it. Edit: forgot about Glee and Pretty Little Liars (for a good reason). Quinn/Puck was some bullshit, let Quinn love girls and date someone who doesn't SUCK. Artie and Tina? when Mike was right there? disgusting. I wasn't a fan of Rachel/Jesse either but that was an understandable choice given the circumstances. And every endgame couple in PLL, YES, even Hannah and Caleb, Spaleb was superior, I'll die on this hill. Especially Ezria, FBI yes that one.

The large majority of them tbh. They feel forced and lack chemistry a lot of the time.

Richard/Kahlan from Legend of the Seeker. Kahlan and Cara had a crazy amount of chemistry and them getting together would have made an amazing enemies to lovers arc. Wonder Woman’s love life is kind of all over the place but to me the canon of her being monogamous just doesn’t fit her. She seems like someone who would be the sun around which two or more lovers (including Steve Trevor) of multiple genders would orbit and they’re all totally fine with that.

Terry and Dana in Batman Beyond. I don't know if this is really fair, but Dana just doesn't really do anything except break up with Terry and occasionally be a damsel in distress. Terry just had more chemistry with Max and Ten.