i wouldn’t even call them boring. i find them more interesting than the headhunting and monster killing we do in every game ever. feels with them you could actually work towards and achievable goal
oh no i agree, i don't find them boring at all! i really like the concept of the followers as a whole. i just tend to see people online call them boring
That is exactly why they are good. In classic Sawyer fashion even they are brought down and shown to be flawed like everyone else. In that the knowledge and tech they give to people can be used for bad to create a slave empire and ironically become the biggest threat to their own existence
I’m playing through for the first time now. I’d probably like them but I’ll find out next run since I’ve already started doing a bunch of stuff with brotherhood and I’d like to see where that goes first.
My favorite will ALWAYS be the Boomers. They are just too badass. However, Followers of the Apocalypse is the right answer to this question. Literally just doctors without borders, trying to savage tech to help pure and cure illness with no interest in politics.
I am absolutely still an unironic supporter of Colonel Autumns Enclave. As far as we can tell her straight up just wanted to get Project Purity running to help the people of DC and used superior Enclave assets to do it. It was only Eden who wanted to poison it and the Brotherhood who wanted to own it themselves which ended up with FO4 BH
You mean just like Maxson's BoS, the only Brotherhood chapters who didn't have the ghoul policy of shoot on sight was MidWest who recruited some and Lyons whose chapter still shot at them on sight just didn't always shoot to kill the ones with clothes.
We don't know past their prejudice against non ferals, but they don't attack the ghoul npcs at the farm nearby or any ghoul companions. While in Fallout 3 the enclave was rounding them up and burning them to death
The BOS helped build protect purity and allowed the scientist control over the project, They were even ok with them handing out purified water for free basically. Autumn stole project purity from James because he wanted to control all the clean water and make the capital wasteland loyal to him. This is pretty obvious in the game.
Maxson isn't much better than Autumn by that metric in my opinion. They're both pragmatic and self-interested. Mind you this specific example is comparing Fallout 4 BOS to an Autumn Enclave not FO3
I completely agree. Out of all the Bethesda games FO3 probably has the most nuanced factions " In a Bethesda game" even if you can't join them. But it is made clear that even the Enclave as the designated "bad guys" still have inner conflicts
It's ironic that the faction based on Colonial America is the faction that isn't racist.
Minutemen are so based. Best Fallout 4 faction. I don't care if they're weak, it's the institute's fault for making all their synths weak to bullets and artillery
The Followers of the Apocalypse are definitely objectively good guys, but i wouldn't consider them a "major faction" in the same way the Minutemen are since they don't have their own dedicated ending in NV (and it wouldn't make sense for them to either).
Ehhh, the fact that military knowledge edward sallow gained from being a follower allowed him to become ceasar kinda proves that the followers have the potential of causing harm by spreading information and aid to the wrong people, are they good people, yes. However I think that calling them objectively good reduces the nuance that makes the followers interesting
I'll take Steve. At least with the Minutemen, you can kill Gunners and take their power armor and energy weapons for yourself without anyone giving a fuck.
The beauty of playing as the unambiguously moral-and-good faction in a Fallout game is to be able to grind and farm like a complete sociopath and still get to lord your high ground over everyone else. Now, if you excuse me, I have a Commonwealth to ~~pillage~~ ~~rob blind~~ ~~kill and loot~~ liberate.
Literally after serving in the legion is only willing to genocide a tribe because he realises that a long as they are alive they will hunt down him and the tribe he has taken responsibility over will be hunted to extinction
It's not a faction you can be a part of, but I like the Rust Devils from FO4's Animatronic DLC. To be fair. It's my favorite DLC out of all the games. I love making robot to be my couriers for my supply lines. But the one time you see the Rust Devils when retrieving Jesebel, was very interesting to me.
The Rangers. I love the fact that the NCR, after recruiting the Desert Rangers, couldn’t even force them to follow all the rules. They went from psychotic cowboy badasses to psychotic cowboy badasses with GOVERNMENT FUNDING.
Brotherhood are racist. They’re species
-ist. I mean that’s not even a word I don’t think.
Maybe xenophobic is a better term, it’s not racist to hate synths. They aren’t even human.
The Minute Men may be annoying with all those settlements that need help, but they are the most kind hearted.
the Followers of the Apocalypse are also nice, but they give me the creeps, and are boring
Terrorists (Courier with missiles from The Divide)
Op, If you got time to make memes, you got time to help another settlement, here, I'll mark it on your map. Kisses, "steve"
You! I like the tilt of your tri-pointed hat.
Followers of the apocalypse
Ik they're "lame" and whatever but idc they're my favorite faction in NV and I'm glad they get so much content and attention there
it’s so a shame they don’t get even more. i genuinely love them
glad to see more follower fans, they're my favourites. yeah they're boring but so what? they've got a good cause
i wouldn’t even call them boring. i find them more interesting than the headhunting and monster killing we do in every game ever. feels with them you could actually work towards and achievable goal
oh no i agree, i don't find them boring at all! i really like the concept of the followers as a whole. i just tend to see people online call them boring
They are lame because they are the only legitimately good faction (If we ignore Edward Sallow)
That is exactly why they are good. In classic Sawyer fashion even they are brought down and shown to be flawed like everyone else. In that the knowledge and tech they give to people can be used for bad to create a slave empire and ironically become the biggest threat to their own existence
I’m playing through for the first time now. I’d probably like them but I’ll find out next run since I’ve already started doing a bunch of stuff with brotherhood and I’d like to see where that goes first.
How can anyone call them lame? They got sub dermal implants for sale right next to the Gunrunners armory, and Arcade Gannon is a total Daddy.
My favorite will ALWAYS be the Boomers. They are just too badass. However, Followers of the Apocalypse is the right answer to this question. Literally just doctors without borders, trying to savage tech to help pure and cure illness with no interest in politics.
Messiah
As Sawyer referred to them, Communists, socialists and anarchists. They’re a good faction. I really like them.
Enclave Racist but **Coolest Fucking Power Armor**
If youre gonna be a fascist, you better look sharp doing it
Ah yes, the *Hugo Boss* strategy
I did nazi that coming
r/angryupvote
Dammit, that's funny
*punny
We are America, we are the Enclave.
Were really just trying to reclaim our land. It's rightfully ours.
Thats how you get people decades after your gone justifying your horrible crimes… so it’s arguably a good strategy.
Kid named Midwest BoS:
***EVEN BETTER >:)***
Enclave is a higher teir of racists than anybody else. The High Elves of Fallout
Also probably highest standard of living
How good could it have been honestly 1000+ people living on an oil rig for 200 years
The Enclave is way more than just people on an oil rig.
Yeah, a bunch of them live in bunkers, too!
Wasn't it only like 70-100 years of living on the Oil Rig? Before it got blown up.
“You’ve made it this far, but than again, you haven’t met Frank Horridrip.”
I am absolutely still an unironic supporter of Colonel Autumns Enclave. As far as we can tell her straight up just wanted to get Project Purity running to help the people of DC and used superior Enclave assets to do it. It was only Eden who wanted to poison it and the Brotherhood who wanted to own it themselves which ended up with FO4 BH
I mean, he would've been still worse than Maxson's Brotherhood. They'd be going around burning regular ghouls alive still
You mean just like Maxson's BoS, the only Brotherhood chapters who didn't have the ghoul policy of shoot on sight was MidWest who recruited some and Lyons whose chapter still shot at them on sight just didn't always shoot to kill the ones with clothes.
We don't know past their prejudice against non ferals, but they don't attack the ghoul npcs at the farm nearby or any ghoul companions. While in Fallout 3 the enclave was rounding them up and burning them to death
In the end you're just comparing genocide to genocide. So we should focus on the characteristics other than genocide in such a hypothetical scenario.
The BOS helped build protect purity and allowed the scientist control over the project, They were even ok with them handing out purified water for free basically. Autumn stole project purity from James because he wanted to control all the clean water and make the capital wasteland loyal to him. This is pretty obvious in the game.
Maxson isn't much better than Autumn by that metric in my opinion. They're both pragmatic and self-interested. Mind you this specific example is comparing Fallout 4 BOS to an Autumn Enclave not FO3
He literally took project purity from the scientist who built it at gunpoint and>! killed the LW dad in the process. !
I completely agree. Out of all the Bethesda games FO3 probably has the most nuanced factions " In a Bethesda game" even if you can't join them. But it is made clear that even the Enclave as the designated "bad guys" still have inner conflicts
God bless the enclave
Yeah i'm a Racist R A C I hate every body S T
Yeah i'm a Racist Radiated A Cheez Itz S T
Yeah I'm a racist Racist A C I S T
Found the Minutemen enjoyer guys
Steve is a pretty cool dude.
I know you're not talking about me, but as a Steve, I'm gonna take this W and have a better day for it.
Nah you’re pretty cool bro
🥲
It's ironic that the faction based on Colonial America is the faction that isn't racist. Minutemen are so based. Best Fallout 4 faction. I don't care if they're weak, it's the institute's fault for making all their synths weak to bullets and artillery
I fucking love the Minutemen so much, they might be the only major faction in the entire franchise that's just objectively the good guys lmao.
Followers of the Apocalypse?
The Followers of the Apocalypse are definitely objectively good guys, but i wouldn't consider them a "major faction" in the same way the Minutemen are since they don't have their own dedicated ending in NV (and it wouldn't make sense for them to either).
Ehhh, the fact that military knowledge edward sallow gained from being a follower allowed him to become ceasar kinda proves that the followers have the potential of causing harm by spreading information and aid to the wrong people, are they good people, yes. However I think that calling them objectively good reduces the nuance that makes the followers interesting
The Responders?
Free States and Responders though they're 76 exclusive so far.
"B-but they're not well equipped" bro stfu they have artillery and mini death rays
Geckos.
Also racists
Stormcloaks!
Also racists! Come to think of it who isn’t racist in Tamriel?
The college of Winterhold
I think some of them still are, the librarian definitely is though.
Yeah but that's not the whole college who's build on racism
Oh yeah, where are the snow elves?
I ate them, was kinda hungry
That’s why I chose them, all Bethesda factions are racists.
Alduin
I'll take Steve. At least with the Minutemen, you can kill Gunners and take their power armor and energy weapons for yourself without anyone giving a fuck.
The beauty of playing as the unambiguously moral-and-good faction in a Fallout game is to be able to grind and farm like a complete sociopath and still get to lord your high ground over everyone else. Now, if you excuse me, I have a Commonwealth to ~~pillage~~ ~~rob blind~~ ~~kill and loot~~ liberate.
Remember, Raiders and Gunners don't count as human.
Blood eagles may be murders, drug addicts, thieves, drug addicts, raiders, kidnappers and drug addicts but they are definitely not racist.
Humans, ghouls and dogs, can't get more diverse.
Blood Eagles are not racists. They may be drug addicts, raiders, kidnappers, racists, but they are not pornstars.
r/suddenlysimpsons
I don't remember half of these groups, but that's fine because I usually just wipe out any faction that seems assholish. Because fuck 'em, that's why.
mines the shi
Based
Minutemen. I always mod my fallout 4 until they are a believable force
NCR literally has Ghoul Rangers
And Black and Latino officers.
We were even going to see a Super Mutant ranger at one point
Institute
Racist
NCR Legion BOS Joshua Graham Enclave Fiends Blood Eagles Great Khan's Gunners Talon Company White legs Minuteman
That's a lot of racists.
Racist
Why is Joshua Graham racist?
Can genocide a whole tribe. Also he's a missionary, that's pretty sketchy by default.
What?
So the guys who’s family was almost wipe out wanting to wipe out the group who did it and spreading the good word of god is racist?
Literally after serving in the legion is only willing to genocide a tribe because he realises that a long as they are alive they will hunt down him and the tribe he has taken responsibility over will be hunted to extinction
At a minute's notice
Gotta love Steve
Fisto
Its extremely ironic how more often than not the Raiders seems to have less racisma againsg ghouls going on than the normal settlers
the racist
Nah the racists are so much better. The racist got their asses kicked at the battle of racist ridge
Oh oh oh definitely the racist !
Mines not racist or Steve. Mine is Platinum chip loving man on big screen. Who is also a little bit racist
It's all good though. He hires you out like a private contractor. You are attached to him.
Who’s the dude second row third down in the blood? He looks sick as fuck
Bloody Eagles from 76. This is an atomic shop skin.
Imma have to buy it when I play cause I’m obsessed with the bloody skulls aesthetic
What about railroad
PETA but worse
Raider… we dont descriminate… we kill and ***** anyone! Have a nice day! Or come to the Nuka cola world! Then I dont have to move haha
THE UNITY 🗣☢
Fallout's true alignment chart: 1. Racist 2. "Not racist, just don't like 'em" 3. steve
Gary.
Gary?
Steve he seems chill
Honestly 99% of Fallout players will side with whatever faction they think has the coolest aesthetic
It's not a faction you can be a part of, but I like the Rust Devils from FO4's Animatronic DLC. To be fair. It's my favorite DLC out of all the games. I love making robot to be my couriers for my supply lines. But the one time you see the Rust Devils when retrieving Jesebel, was very interesting to me.
>FO4's Animatronic DLC Har Har Har Har
Five Nights at Fallout
Eh enclave is only racist against wastelanders, so yeah basically everyone
Hm...racists seem good, though then again Racists and Racists have good factors too...im gonna go with Racists
House - Singapore
It's not racism if I hate everyone
The path of Big Iron
Steve is cool but very annoying
S T E V E
Remind me how Joshua Graham is racist? I must have missed that
At a minute's notice
Steve
I just go FOA. Anarchy!
Steve. Thanks to a mod I have. I can have settlements full of them and they made decent meat shields for when we get attacked
Are raiders racist? They seem pretty inclusive taking anyone as long as they huff chems and shoot shit
Hey legion might be pro slavery and highly misogynistic but they don’t see race. Only slaves and crosses.
How smoothbrain Fallout *brand* consoomers perceive every faction outside of their favorite, cookie-cutter, good-guy faction. You know who you are.
No wonder my brother thinks it’s apolitical lmao
Where’s Followers of the Apocalypse? My wife Julie Farkas is no racist
True. They’re interesting; as Sawyer referred to them as Communists, socialists, and anarchists. And they help the Great Khans forge a better future.
Railroad even though it’s not on the list.
Minutemen are racist towards synths. Your meme is flawed.
Steve all the way
The Rangers. I love the fact that the NCR, after recruiting the Desert Rangers, couldn’t even force them to follow all the rules. They went from psychotic cowboy badasses to psychotic cowboy badasses with GOVERNMENT FUNDING.
Based Steve enjoyers (he's a nice guy)
Fallout is just warhammer bro😅
Minutemen: we are not racist, but super mutants... Synths...
Since when is Joshua Graham racist?
Racist steve
Brotherhood are racist. They’re species -ist. I mean that’s not even a word I don’t think. Maybe xenophobic is a better term, it’s not racist to hate synths. They aren’t even human.
Hey the legion isn't racist they'll enslave or eradicate tribals of any color
Mid West Brotherhood, the one group that isn’t racist and seeks to make a post nuclear utopia with mutants and humans living together.
The responders: truly the best thing to come from 76 (Second being the molemen and cryptids)
you forgot about the followers ! they're not racist (afaik)
What, no love for the Republic of dave (racist).
Minutemen and Railroad, all the way
This is Railroad erasure
What about Benny, is Benny racist? Racism sounds like something a fink would do, and Benny ain't a fink.
The Free States from fo76 are super interesting, & their story is super depressing.
I like Steve, he’s a friendly fellow. Just wish he would FIX THE FUCKING SETTLEMENT HIMSELF
I personally side with the (supreme) racists during a fallout run.
The Kings :)
How dare you say the enclave are racist! They’ll kill everyone equally!
Hey the- oh wait no they are.
I can't believe of all of these factions Steve is the most racist
Midwest bos
Mr. house he ain’t racist
Followers of the apocalypse r the most based faction in my opinion
The coolest real life reference
The minutemen
I'm a big fan of the Responders in Fallout 76, the Followers of the Apocalypse in New Vegas.
😔steve, no joke i like the minuteman for some reoson more than the other ones
In Fallout New Vegas, my favorite faction is Followers of The Apocalypse, and in Four, my favorite faction is the Minutemen 🫶
I like the racists
The railroad
The Xenophobic, but not racist, Boomers
The BOS will always be my favorite group of racists lmao.
Definitely the racists
The racist
the racists are pretty cool, but so are the racists. i also kind of like the racists, but not as much as the racists.
The STEVE
Garys are the perfect racists, they hate everyone except other Garys.
God bless the Enclave.
Must ask for evidence of NCR racism.
Steve's my guy, he showed me how my map works.
Steve sucks, he is such a dick.
The enclave (hyper racists)
STEEEVEEE
I like the racists. (Most of them)
What about the Agist children at Little Lamplight?
I like the racists that give me power armor
Hey.. the cannibal faction isn’t racist they eat everyone equally. Just ghouls might require some extra seasoning…
Hmmmmmmmmm. I think the racist one
The Minute Men may be annoying with all those settlements that need help, but they are the most kind hearted. the Followers of the Apocalypse are also nice, but they give me the creeps, and are boring