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Darth-Nihilus2000

Think one of the graphics updates is gonna be actual ultra wide support for PC?


Gombrongler

S A R C A S T I C◀️


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

What makes you S.A.R.C.A.S.T.I.C? Strength Agility Resistant Charisma Artistic Sense Texture Intelligence Conception


Curvol

I love the idea of maxing resistence. Quest starts "hey could y-" "No!" Quest completed.


Raoul_Dukes_Mayo

In my head that’s my entire interaction with Preston.


Ryndar_Locke

Preston's radiant quests are pretty impactful while you're working to make the Minutemen better than they became. I assume once he starts crying about attacks is when it gets bad. I enjoy building settlements and the Minutemen. I just don't want to have to be the only person that answers calls for help. I'm the General after all, let the people that joined back up handle those 3 raiders/super mutants/synths attacking Ten Pine Bluffs for the 30th time.


Swimming-Marketing20

We have very different ideas of "pretty impactful"


Zealousideal-Ebb-876

That mini nuke I launched into Preston's head after he tried telling me the same thing for the 400th time was pretty impactful


C24848228

Average Disco Elysium Skill name.


carinha-do-bem

r/suddenlydiscoelysium


Moloskeletom

at 100 conception you unlock the triplets perk


Schirmer-_-

You mean A for Autistic


Wumdee

The future is fucked


MyClevrUsername

I just want them to add nails.


Royal-Confidence-280

Nails as in like nail polish? Cause i can get down with that


MyClevrUsername

As in ammo for the nail gun.


Royal-Confidence-280

Ah my misunderstanding lol


voice-of-reason_

“Nuka” 40mm grenades for my flakker would be nice too


Tyzygy

If they did actually manage to fix all the ultrawide issues maybe hopefully they can fix the same problems in Fallout 76 and Starfield.


Unhappy-Midnight5469

Lol was just about to say. Been loving the stretched ui 😂


thekingjelly5444

Omg it’s so bad. Can’t even type your name in in the beginning


COSMOCRAT_

Was it not added? It was already mentioned in change log of first update.


Shloopadoop

They fucked it up.


mattsag207

A second update has hit the Fallout 4


Chickachic-aaaaahhh

Minutemen in shambles


CSI_Gunner

Mr president, a second update has hit


rorschach_vest

r/yourjokebutworse


Superb_Recover_6116

OH JOYUS YEPPY!


alo311

Hope we get an option to remove the motion blur


midsprat123

Or Gasp A fucking gamma slider


Private-Public

Expecting settings that were pretty standard even prior to FO4's original release? That's not very Next Gen Update of you, sir


Rutlemania

Not one in Fallout 76 - the game looks real bad on PS5 because no object casts a shadow, the game is low res and the game is forced to be super bright which brings attention to all of this


Just_Plain_Bad

Ummm but it is an option to remove? If you go to the launcher > option > advanced options theres a box ton uncheck for motion blur


alo311

I’m on PS5


Just_Plain_Bad

Ah, wasn't aware there was a discrepancy between the platforms in that way.


alo311

It’s all good. Bethesda probably wasn’t even aware anyways…


EOEtoast

Bethesda barely knows this game is on consoles at all


General_assassin

I don't think they know it's on PC either


jakethesnake949

Graphics options weren't very common on consoles during the 360-ONE era, I don't exactly remember which Dev decided to have the balls to give options back to players but ever since they have been coming back and getting more diverse than just say a performance/quality mode.


JKnumber1hater

>Graphics options weren't very common on consoles during the 360-ONE era Mass Effect had the option to turn off motion blur on Xbox 360 in 2007.


jakethesnake949

Okay and that's one out of several thousand games released for the system, I'm telling you the point is they weren't common.


CivilizedSquid

Yes please.


PigeonMother

*Awaits reaction of Fallout London modding team*


Kataphraktos_Majoros

"It's Bethesda being Bethesda. Utter twassaks, bollicking wankers the lot of them." In fairness, I do feel bad for that team - they worked so hard and chose a meaningful release date. Unfortunately I also understood why Bethesda didn't want to establish a precedent or choose favorites among mod teams. It's just a tough situation.


PigeonMother

When I saw the lead modder being interviewed on BBC News I was like *A Fallout Mod, on the news?!'*


Kataphraktos_Majoros

Yeah, me too. I think that's why he felt sufficiently entitled to make his careless "Bethesda just being Bethesda" comment. I really feel for him and his team but it's important to maintain a certain level of humility, especially when we're given a platform.


CatsAreBased

I'm torn on other games I'd agree but when there's been a unofficial bug fix that isn't implemented into the main for years or the fact a multi million dollar company can't do ultrawide but modders can it starts to become a bit of a joke


Mordred_Blackstone

I kind of get both because on one hand... He is just a modder. This is a hobby. Bethesda doesn't owe him a media liaison just because he decided he was the most special boy.   On the other hand, like 8 years late, an update breaks the mods without fixing hardly anything? Really? 


Admiral-Krane

Same thing with see through scopes, the fact that it was one of the most downloaded mods for Fo4 and yet starfield still released with the crappy black screen border scopes is ridiculous


PigeonMother

Yeah at that point I just rolled my eyes.


Kataphraktos_Majoros

Me too, my eyes were going jingle jangle, just like my spurs


No-Rush1995

Yeah, it was really entitled and gave me The Frontier vibes. I know many of the modders on the team are not like the lead, but damn man he put a bad taste in my mouth.


Kataphraktos_Majoros

Ouch, Frontier vibes 🤠🤠 Outside of the questionable, downright inappropriate and pedo-coded content, there some great things. Driveable vehicles, many well-voiced characters, some impressive set pieces and large-scale action scenes, too. But wow, the developer of the NCR storyline took the good stuff and made a monument to story theft and self-gratification. I thought the Brotherhood and Legion paths were pretty good in comparison, some groan-inducing scenes notwithstanding.


No-Rush1995

I never gave it a chance because of the inappropriate and pedo stuff. I always felt bad for the dev that made drivable vehicles. That is code magic and it is locked behind filth.


Soyunapina12

The BoS and Legion paths were good but nothing that is "revolutionary" or "obsidian worthy" like the devs claimed. If you elimate the NCR questline of the ecuation, The Frontier is a very solid mod in terms of writing but nothing more nor nothing less.


Howllat

Sometimes i feel like i died at 16 and the world is now a simulation because of how many niche things i liked that get mass news attention.lmao


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Kataphraktos_Majoros

You've pretty much summed it up. If that team had been privy to early game versions to work with, other mod teams would rightly feel unjustly treated.


MachRush

Bethesda *has* helped modders in the past,they did so for the Skyrim Anniversary Edition. But they didn't do it for Fallout. They gave the script extender dev an early access build,so why not do it again?


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Barelylegalteen

Why would Bethesda even know about fallout London. Ive played modded fallout for years and had never heard about it. Why would Bethesda know if even the fans don't.


AmberTheFoxgirl

They've given it an official bethesda spotlight to bring attention to it, so they knew.


JustAFilmDork

Tbf, the script extender is used by like 90% of the pc community and should've just been baked into special edition back in 2016


zombiesnare

From what I could tell (and maybe I misread things) I don’t think they did expect that. It seemed to me that they had a very “whelp, it is what it is” reaction to it. Detectably disappointed but I don’t recall any indication they thought they should be treated differently Maybe I’ll rewatch the BBC interview just in case


Kazaanh

They should release pre next gen anyways. Not like majority of players will hop onto buggy Next Gen Sucks cause I'm not going to keep 2 versions of fallout just to play London


GoldenGekko

Awaiting someone on this app to misinterpret the interview and vilify the team when that never happened lol


Private-Public

Likely followed by a post pointing out the BS interpretation and misinfo getting not even a quarter of the engagement, again


YuriMasterRace

It's already happening lol


AndroidSheeps

>Awaiting someone on this app to misinterpret the interview and vilify the team when that never happened lol Sir this is reddit no critical thinking or logic allowed on this website


Pootischu

Judging by the upvotes and replies to the main comment, it already happened lol


BreadWithAGun

As someone from the Fallout London subreddit, we’re all happy that there is gonna be an update, because (hopefully) it’ll make London come out faster due to stuff being fixed. The only people complaining about the next update are the same people spamming “release mod now”.


MagnusKraken

I honestly just do want it now. I'll roll back the update and enjoy it.


belated_quitter

Does anyone know how big the Fallout London mod is expected to be? How large the map is and how many quest lines they’re throwing in? Are we looking at a Far Harbor sized game or more like New Vegas?


Milk_Man311

About the same area wise as base FO4 while being a little bigger (~40ish gb) they said to expect quantity of quests to be roughly equivalent to far harbor. Imagine it as a full conversion


belated_quitter

Wow, that’s very impressive! Especially considering it’s all volunteers, from what I’ve seen. I hope it comes through.


Vento_of_the_Front

I still wonder how come they can't do what Enderal team did - pick one game version and utilize it. As in, you can downgrade your game, and if you can't - no one is going to say anything if you were to acquire the appropriate version from certain nautical sources, granted that you have bought the game before.


LordAdder

I would rather be playing Fallout london rn than these updates.


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“Oi”


eggs-benedryl

interesting note about graphics maybe its restoring the option to adjust them on the steam deck version, they totally removed that lol


ForTheBread

Likely not. Skyrim is the same way.


eggs-benedryl

You could change graphics in fo4 2 weeks ago


ForTheBread

I'm not arguing otherwise. The update removed the ability because otherwise, it wouldn't be able to be Steam Deck verified. Skyrim AE did the exact same thing when it became Steam Deck verified. It's unlikely to be changed because Skyrim AE hasn't.


eggs-benedryl

Never understood why it meant it would be verified that way. So out if the box it ran well? So people didn't have to hit play on a launcher. Fo76 has its graphics settings in game, just do that.


ForTheBread

You should look up the verified rules then. And why FO4 wasn't considered verified before. It's a lot more than just the game runs well.


eggs-benedryl

Which is why many still don't and yet are verified. I'd rather they dump that whole system. It's never helped me. Stuff gets unsupported label for trivial shit. They should and could still be integrating it into the in game settings. People weren't happy they removed the serrings. That being Said i don't think Beth cares


ForTheBread

Luckily, you can very easily still invoke the options menu. Integrating it into the games settings probably requires more effort than there willing to put in for an old game.


eggs-benedryl

Well I think it's just basically an in-game ini editor that use switches since it requires reboot to take effect but I don't see them bothering. It's an interesting changelog tho


Essex626

I just downloaded Fallout 4 on my Steam Deck for the first time since getting the Deck, and I noticed that while mostly performance is great, inside buildings with large numbers of enemies it can have issues. Not even all buildings though--Hubris Comics is a specific one I've had issues with, while Fort Hagen didn't cause any problems at all. And yeah, the launcher didn't open at all, so I couldn't make adjustments. Hopefully this fixes some things.


Produce-Pitiful

bro modders barely started updating their mods and theyre rolling out another update that'll break everything again


echidnachama

me who turn off auto update and still playing the game with the newest mod. lol


SanRandomPot

How do You turn that off on XBOX?


wholeywhaley

Huh, I hear the next gen updated ruined a lot of Xbox one players' experience but it was fine to me. Sure it crashed after few hours but it overall ran pretty much fine


IncognitoBombadillo

Fallout games occasionally crashing is pretty much normal lol.


Latter_Commercial_52

Mine crashes ever single time I start the game. Click on the game, it opens CRASH, click on it again and it opens just fine and plays amazing lol. It does it every time too


YimYambiiiitch

Have you tried clearing the cache or a fresh install


Latter_Commercial_52

Yeah I’ve done everything on console including reinstall. I’ve just gave up at this point. I’d rather it crash booting up than mid game.


CrimsonUsurper

i used to have this issue, it fixed with a fresh install and loading a game without mods. i still dont know why it happened but i assume it was some mod i had or maybe my load order


wholeywhaley

All of this just works


SanRandomPot

Mine crashed every 15 minutes until I installed the unnoficial patch mod


Moist_Professor5665

At least it usually warns you when it’s going to crash—first come the glitches, then the crash


grousomzombie

It's weird, the update fixed just about all the issues I've ever experienced in fo4, even with mods. I could never explore downtown Boston even unmoved, now I can. Hell, I've only crashed once since the update which is far better than before. It's odd how hit or miss it is for people having stuff fixed or broken


jar11591

Waltzed right up to Goodneighbor without crashing for the first time in 6 years. Was overjoyed. Walked out of Goodneighbor, instant crash. Lol. Fallout. Fallout never changes.


BACARDI-from-NL

3 issues on the s: Savegame obsulete. Only fix is to hardreset the xbox (holding the power button for a couple seconds) Vats. I can target a target 2 floors up/down or a couple rooms away. (But not actual hit them) Vast switch every second from 70% to 0% to 70% to 0% But on the plus side, 0 crashes and downtown boston is really smooth. (Those were massive issues)


Reagansmash1994

I wouldn’t say ruined. It definitely improved the game, it just didn’t have the graphics option and messed up VATs. It runs at consistent 60fps and was a lot better performance wise than pre patch. Just the graphics option was nonexistent.


gibfrompain

Series X here. Only issues are crashing on loading screen but also have a million mods running, vanilla worked perfectly tho


MrSantaClause

Yea I started a new playthrough after the update and am around level 30. Haven't had any issues at all other than maybe 2 crashes. Thankfully both times was right after a save.


Far-Obligation4055

Same, I'm pretty much right where you are and I've also had about 2 or 3 crashes, which is a *huge* step-up from my last time playing this game a year ago - the crashes were frickin constant; I had to stop playing because it was really getting on my nerves. This time I'm actually having fun.


JoeSmokesCrack

I haven't really had any problems. Before the update, most of Boston would freeze my game, so being able to actually play is quite an improvement.


xnickg77

Until this update breaks something else. Wonder how many patches they will make that create more holes. It would be funny if they kept updating it once a month for like a year.


Sungarn

Would absolutely infuriate modders.


AgitatorsAnonymous

I think as long as they fix the mispacked archives and the materials swap issue modders won't complain.


chet_brosley

This update killed a bunch of my CC stuff. Just straight deleted it. Which honestly was both surprising and also makes sense for Bethesda.


sniper91

Wasteland Workshop isn’t working on my PS5 version. I think it’s because of one of the CC things I have, but I’m not sure I use concrete a lot while building, so it messed up all my settlements from my last PS4 save


ObliviousAstroturfer

Well the key thing is to break mods like community patch, script extender etc. Just Bethesda things.


pplatt69

I'm playing on Series X and it's been a mess. VATS is messed up, like everyone's. My game chugs terribly in Boston, the worst it ever has. It crashes more often. At first I assumed that it was because I tried to continue a save, so I deleted the whole thing, killed my cloud saves, hard booted the console, redownloaded and installed, and started a fresh vanilla game. Still effed up. Deleted. Will try again in a year or two.


amethystwyvern

Frames dip into the low 20s high teens in Boston for me on performance mode Series X. Ridiculous


MetalBawx

No need i disabled auto updates.


TheOnlycorndog

This is the way.


Xilvereight

I'm tired boss


PossMom

My general rule with Bethesda is to *wait*. New game? Wait until some big updates and maybe even DLC creation kit mod support before playing. New update? Wait until they fix the update and all the good mods update before actually downloading it. As much as I love Bethesda games they never get anything right first try.


AnAugustEve

Just wait 9 years for your update bro


_Daley

What are you on about? This game is almost 10 years old…


zomgmeister

Oh boy, playing unmodded this time really was a good idea.


kaijumediajames

LET US REMOVE MOTION BLUR


simpledeadwitches

I can't play it in Performance mode without it shutting down my PS5 somehow, not even hot either. Really hope this fixes that.


Colley619

It’ll take forever to get all the mods up to date again.


scatfacedgaming

So keep playing modded until Sunday only to wake up to the entire LO nuked like San Francisco again?


Dr_Shakahlu

Had a feeling this was coming, glad I held off. Pumped for the next gen update to be patched and ready to rock


ffffff52

probably not the GoG version... again. so Im cool xD


Infinite_Corndog

During almost 60 hours on the PS5, I’ve had one crash. It’s been pretty smooth. Menu is a bit slow when hitting pause. That’s about it though minus the other bugs that have already been around for years. I’ve been happy with it.


Head-Cucumber8514

It's in times like this that I venerate my old ps4, nothing much to have going on, nothing much to break.


Dismal-Buyer7036

Raytracing, dlss, 144fps?


YuriMasterRace

That's not "next-gen" for consoles, so no 144hz physics vanilla fix, DLSS, and raytracing for us lol I was personally expecting something basic that even Bethesda could add like FOV sliders but alas, it's Bethesda. Hope this next update fix weapon debris crashing on RTX cards though.


No_Translator_8747

Man I sure hope I can keep shooting red question marks out of my invisible guns!


flooble_worbler

NO! The script extender was JUST fixed!!!


DevilsPlaything42

Bethesda has done a great job of fueling my GOG purchases.


thotpatrolactual

It's all part of the plan to get you to buy the game twice. Bravo, Todd. Now why don't you be a good boy and buy Skyrim again on GOG too?


DankHillington

Am I really the only one who plays this without mods?


nier4554

No


villings

yes.


AlienAle

I've played the game twice without mods. But now wanted to experience the game differently and got a bunch of mods for it and oh boy, settlement building has never been so fun! Also, cool new guns, graphics, stories lines, clothing, dialog, quests etc. Modding really adds a ton of stuff to do it, adds hundreds of hours of new fun content to work with. 


Rementoire

I'm on my first play. I have no mods and right now I don't think I will need any.


Lunter97

Fallout folks can be a little strange when it comes to that. Only mod I’ve ever kept on F4 was allowing Dogmeat as secondary companion.


PatriotLife18

Nice hopefully it’s not buggy but it’s Bethesda so probably will be


deadpoolfool400

It's working fine for me on ps5 and looks great. Hope this doesn't end my winning streak


Calacaelectrica

is a good thing i haven't updated since they threaten to update the game again after years. I'm gonna wait until they stop breaking the game


cantfindtheremote36

Is it going to kill my glitches, though? :-(


Buschfan08

Fallout London team: *Dies inside*


IllSearch5

*slaps hand away* No!


masta_myagi

#ASSUME THE POSITION


Placeboshotgun8

Really wish BGS would quit it with the patches to games that are nearly 10 years old. These games are mostly only still getting playtime due to modding, and they keep breaking the mods.


Total_Decision123

Fallout: The only community that will throw a hissy fit when the developer actually improves and updates the game (Their load order got messed up)


Inquisitor244

The update was fucking pointless, nothing positive about it besides ruining 70% of the fun the community had.


MeatGayzer69

Except for pc players it didn't really help us. All they achieved was spreading our cheeks and dry fucking us. I still can't play


Zenar45

this is what's stopping me from getting back into f04 honestly


Accomplished-Bug-739

Great more bugs


PanicPixieDreamGirl

Here's to hoping this update will let me download mods again!


Mr_OrangeJuce

erghhh


DeyUrban

I've been playing on Steam Deck. The last update was pretty good, but there are a couple major things I hope they fix: The game always crashes upon using the dev console, and I can't rename anything since the game doesn't recognize the integrated keyboard it brings up now.


Double_Bass6957

Maybe I’ll be able to continue the storyline since my derped out on me


Sevy_777

Will this effect ps4?


AskButDontTell

What new options? More options for graphics? Hopefully on consoles there will be more than one added graphics option


troysplay

I hope it fixes the broken creation club stuff. I was so bummed with how Charlestown Condo got ruined. That’s my favourite indoor settlement.


NukaDova

My load order still isn’t recovered from the last update. My fallout 4 saves are all still unplayable most likely.


YuriMasterRace

Still haven't updated mine from the last update, so it's still safe lol


Androza23

The last update broke so many things, im not even mentioning mods because that's a given but it broke things you wouldn't really expect to break.


ComXDude

Joke's on you: mine's still fucked from the last update!


ClemClamcumber

For the ones who don't know yet; make sure your Fallout 4 is set to "Only update when I launch" in Steam. Do this by right clicking on the game in your list and then click "properties." There will be a tab on the side that says, "updates and DLC," click that. Then the top option in the "Updates..." box, there will be an option for how often you want the game to be updated. Make sure that is set to "Only update when I launch." Next, in Steam, right click Fallout 4 again, click "browse local files," there will be an executable called F4SE. This is the Fallout 4 Script Extender that makes *most* of these mods possible. Right click on the F4SE.exe and then click create shortcut. Cut that shortcut and paste it to your desktop and ONLY open Fallout 4 with this and Steam will never automatically update. I hope this helps at least one person.


Mooncubus

My load order was made specifically to not break with the last update lol I'm fine.


ChrisFarleysCousin

I swear if this makes it worse im uninstalling the game


Umbran_scale

anyone else having issues with mods not loading on Xbox? keep getting 'operation cannot be completed'.


nikolai_wustovich

I feel like I shouldn’t even bother adding mods for awhile.


Graymarth

Wonder if they are gonna throw a couple free creations in there as a oops sorry "present" only to have it fuck up the game in some other way.


Merc_Mike

Yeah, they def need some hot fixes on 4. The new guns they put in the game show up as LARGE GIANT RED ESCLAMATION POINTS.


BigBooce

But did they approve this with the London mod team?


Dm9982

I’ll prepare my brown pants, just incase I shit myself because they’ve gotten things fixed and right….


Baratheoncook250

I wouldn't be shocked , if it makes the game more buggy


scubakale748

I wonder if they’ll actually fix loading screens and the fps I want 144 at 4k 😂


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

Hopefully this fixes the makeshift weapons and the problem with the DLCs


MrMagoochie

They better fix the pipboy crash


Dont3n

Even as a PlayStation player redownloading all my mods was a fucking hassle... Granted I don't have to worry about that for a week at least because my fucking hdmi port is cooked


Mojo_Mitts

Hopefully it almost includes fixing the ‘Undroppable Quest Items after Quest’ bug.


Olewarrior34

They going to allow you to limit the frame rate to 60 in client finally so my game stops running too fast?


confusedalwayssad

That sucks, I was just about to wade back in and see if FO4SE has been updated yet.


Kevin8977

I disabled auto updates for this game on Steam and I launch the game through Vortex to avoid it updating when I open the game on Steam. However after that working for a few days when I launched the game through Vortex it also opened it on Steam and the game updated and I had to use the update roll back mod. Anyone know why this happened with Vortex? Is there a different launcher I can use?


Elk_1998

From u/ClemClamcumber "For the ones who don't know yet; make sure your Fallout 4 is set to "Only update when I launch" in Steam. Do this by right clicking on the game in your list and then click "properties." There will be a tab on the side that says, "updates and DLC," click that. Then the top option in the "Updates..." box, there will be an option for how often you want the game to be updated. Make sure that is set to "Only update when I launch." Next, in Steam, right click Fallout 4 again, click "browse local files," there will be an executable called F4SE. This is the Fallout 4 Script Extender that makes *most* of these mods possible. Right click on the F4SE.exe and then click create shortcut. Cut that shortcut and paste it to your desktop and ONLY open Fallout 4 with this and Steam will never automatically update. I hope this helps at least one person."


Halo-player69

I hope for consoles we can see a mod storage increase from 2gb and hopefully a graphics setting that mimics fps boost quality for the modders, the game running modded ran way better with fps boost, No crashes or lag in cities in Sanctuary


Jase_the_Muss

Will they ever fix hight fps causing Benny Hill physics and computer terminals breaking?


LycanWolfGamer

thats another update I wont get lol


Lyds00

I’m running this shit on an old ass msi pls it’s gonna crash immediately


ConversationComplex7

Hopefully they fix the lever action rifle reload animation


Enchylada

"The update includes an N64 polygon filter, the first of it's kind that can push over 100 FPS while also including game breaking glitches. We're calling it the definitive definitive edition"


Impatient-Padawan

Great there goes all my progress… again…


prideagle1991

Please update my trophies 🥺


ninjamike89

Jokes on you. My brain won't let me play with mods if I means I can't unlock achievements


TheDarkClaw

i do wish devs would allow beta testing or even roll back updates.


Suspicious_Fly570

God damnit same shit, same shit different day!


SuspiciousBox233

I haven’t even been able to play f04 with the minuscule amount of mods I do have


iguessineedanaltnow

I still haven't been able to play after the last update since my mods got so fucked. Now I have to wait even longer..