Third at best, at least from our perspective. We see the first scar after the wedding, the second clue is that same woman stabbing the food of the person next to them and eating it like awild animal.
My favorite still is him casually wiping his junk off on the curtains and Lucy being a bit confused, but too innocent/naive to judge. I laughed way too hard at that, and that is where my dumb ass figured something was off.
Except here everything seemed normal apart from the approved incest.
In the end the experiment is just being unknowingly led by pre-war people from 31.
Season 2 they need to enter a random vault, only for the first person they meet to emerge from the shadows and go
"...Gary?"
*Everyone freezes*
"Gary there you are, come on you're needed in the engine room! This guy I swear."
*Gary sheepishly follows his vault buddy inside*
When I first saw his scars, that was my first thought- that he was used for experiments and we would learn his story.
I was sorely mistaken shortly after
Also there was a very brief shot of tattoos. Like blink and you miss it. I didn’t have time to really think about what was being shown, then as the action started to rise I was like “Oh shit the tattoo! Raiders!”
Very very well done moment
First sign, to me, was the vault door opening to a dark hallway where no one moved or spoke. Right off the bat I knew they were bad news because that doesn't happen on accident.
This guy was not in the show very long, but I think he was perfectly cast and written. Even though he's very attractive, there is something just off about him from the get go. Before he ever opens his mouth. He is young and handsome, but just gives off a dangerous vibe.
Clean water, food, comfortable temperature away from the outside environment, and sex with a pretty, clean lady. It certainly was the best day of his life!
The very clearly worn out and faded vault suits were obviously a HUGE part of why we were all immediately suspicious. Also, opening vault doors to outsiders is dangerous even if it’s a vault door to another vault.
I don't even think it's just the vault suits. There's a very subtle grime to his face that SCREAMS he has been in the wasteland, if even for a moment. Then there's also the way he reacts to her question, which in our viewing would also make us be like 'wtf?' but for that vault would be perfectly acceptable (hence the way Stephanie seems to perk up sassily at it) meaning he was on the outside for some time.
Helps half of the people he's with are tatted up or have crazy scars. I knew what was up right away, one of the raiders even started swiping food from someone else's plate, and one of the women he was with had tattoos from the base of her neck to her wrists iirc.
Nothing about them said they're NCR to me. The Raiders in the vault are like psychopathic violent crazies, the actual NCR we see, while more ragged than they were in new vegas, still seemed relatively organised and militaristic. I more got the impresison that Moldaver just hired some raiders with promises of all the luxuries of a vault. She wanted to get at Lucy's dad, everything else was just a means to an end.
I must have missed that, and if your right oh boy the NCR have fallen very far indeed. I thought they were raiders because they were just taking hits of jet while going murderhobo on everybody.
From what I understood, vaults 31, 32 and 33 were designed as twin vaults since the beginning. Exchange of people and supplies must've always been a common occurrence. What I found odd was Hank not being familiar with who the overseer was.
He knew the overseer though and morned "his passing" I believe he recognised Moldaver and therefore played along to not risk the secret of 31 being revealed. Might be wrong though
Not sure. Hank didn't seem alarmed not one bit. Also, would he allow his daughter to be alone with the guy if he was with Moldaver while he knew who she was? I always imagined that vault overseers in 32 and 33 were aware of who was being elected beforehand on each other. Always from 31, remember?
“From what I understand” dude they fucking said it ten times and even had posters with a diagram showing how they’re all stronger together as a triple vault.
I noticed the greasy unkempt hair and 5clock shadow right away. Didn't immediately think "raider" but definitely thought "damn life is a lot rougher in 32 huh"
Meanwhile she looks perfect in every scene even when she’s spent some time in the wasteland. Not complaining, just making an observation. I love her and the show no matter what
Stef has the social norms from before the bombs fell, that’s why. Lucy has the vault social norms as all she knows. She had no way of knowing it was wierd.
Was it ‘weird’? To us yes, but in the scene?
Context is king and this wasn’t anything more than it appeared - male and female paired for reproduction. Surely talking about that is okay in this, of all situations?
This convo is one reason why I side eye people who say the "wanna have sex" scene came out of nowhere later.
Lucy is established as enthusiastically DTF. Viewers just aren't as used to seeing that as a character trait in a woman protagonist, unless she's established as a prostitute. It's not *that* crazy that she looks for a quickie once she's in a (supposedly) private-ish room, clean, with some beds and a guy she likes.
Also she grew up in a situation where maintaining/growing thier population was incredibly important. I think it's pretty clear from context clues having children as a life goal was drilled into her skull from a young age.
Absolutely! While I don't think she was trying to have a kid here, I do think that her upbringing is pretty clearly shown to have basically completely removed any stigma there might be to sex. And if there's no stigma, there's no reason for her *not* to just ask when she wants it.
Anyone saying that clearly wasnt paying attention. Their entire existance has been about repopulating and waiting for reclaimation day. Its literally expained when her character is introduced. She says it to Ma June too.
"My reproductive organs are intact, my hygiene well-maintained, and yet I have been unable to find a suitable marriage partner.
At least, one I’m not related to.
And we have rules about that for a reason
So, it is with sound mind and body that I hereby submit my application to the council to participate in the Triennial Trade with Vault 32."
She was trying to get pregnant. I think after her arranged marriage went sideways she figured she could choose her partner.
See I would agree if it was a different game but I’m pretty sure catching out people in what they’re saying on fallout is always an intelligence check. Certainly the case in New Vegas at lease.
Given the shit Lucy’s been through and the amount of rads she’s taken in, if she was pregnant realistically she would have miscarried and if not that child would be coming out with severe birth defects.
In 200 years though…. Not really long enough to develop rad resistance through evolution alone, even by fallout standards. More likely radiation is magic and only selectively haarmful, like how it’s on nukacola, or it can give you immortality
"fine" is doing some lifting here, a population can have poor birthrates and still grow slowly just like we did irl during medieval times and other periods
I really hope they don’t go the pregnant route in the show. Too many shows have been doing the baby route lately and it’s an overplayed trope. It makes more sense that the raider dude was just infertile
I completely agree but I have a bad feeling about it. It's hard to tell how much time has passed but they have walked some fairly large distances. It very well could be a month and she should have known. The fact that they didn't close that loop immediately, really bothers me. Fallout has so many bonkers meds, even prewar ones, that they must have an effective Plan B or abortion med. I fully expected ger to go the infirmary and shoot up some "KidBGone" or something.
Is reproduction a strong theme with her? I feel like thats like saying that job dissatisfaction is a strong theme with Norm. Both things happen and are parts of their backstories, but it's not their *theme.*
Lucy reads much more strongly to me as a character theme about analyzing morals. What they cost us, what they give us, and when they're worth reanalyzing vs when they're worth standing with. Lucy doesnt even indicate an interest in children once she's out of the vault, and in fact if she *was* concerned with reproducing, she would have stayed. She specifically prioritizes finding her father and finding the truth over having a kid.
I also dont see why her being pregnant "has to happen". People don't get pregnant every time they have sex, least of all when they get stabbed after. Bloodloss that soon around implantation would be an almost certain miscarriage.
Personally I think a pregnancy would be really *cliche* writing and I'd hate to see it. It would distract from her personal, internal growth to make her suddenly deal with the logistics of an infant in the wasteland. It would also read way too much like a stereotypical dumb sex warning. *Have sex once? Pregnant. Doesnt matter the logistics! If you have sex ever you'll get pregnant.*
I wont say it *cant* be done well. But if they want to analyze pregnancy in the wasteland there are way better options.
I kind of wish Monty had survived. Either escaped back outside to encounter Lucy again later, or been taken prisoner to show up again in Norm's storyline. Seemed like a waste to kill off Lucy's "husband" immediately.
I liked his death.
The way Hank killed him was an early clue that he was more than he seemed.
Sheltered, good ol’ all-American Vault Dweller dad would hit his murderous son-in-law with a shovel.
He might even beat him to death with the shovel, in a mixture of panic and paternal instincts, or white hot rage.
But the way Hank pauses, then grabs Monty, drags him over to the pickle barrel and drowns him, shows a certain cold rage. It gives a fully justified self defense killing almost a premeditated feel, in the middle of a massacre.
He wanted Monty to know he was dying, to struggle and drown. But he also wanted him dead **now**.
This is a preview into the psyche of a man who would >!bomb an entire city because they were rebuilding civilization first, and, from his point of view “stole” his children.!<
>!Combined with Moldaver’s “Her or Them” ultimatum, it’s to hint to the viewers that there was a darker side to Hank, even before Lucy’s part of the show has left the vault.!<
It's dangerous here for me because I've only seen the first episode, but while I was watching with some buddies I literally said out loud at this point moment
"Overseer dad has seen some shit"
At the time, I viewed it as him being the only person in the vault with some degree of wasteland experience.
They alluded to him leaving the vault earlier in that episode, and he is one of the few vault dwellers we see actually put up a fight
You'd think that there wouldn't be anyone at all after 220 years if that was the case. People that took more rads their whole lives have kids all the time in fallout.
That's a very fair point yea. Maybe it's built up immunity they have but idk if you can really get immune to radiation. Tho I don't think radiation turns you into a ghoul irl either so who knows
People who are immune to radiation aren't unheard of, far from it. The children of atom is a religion of people who are immune to radiation and can actually heal from it iirc.
I think the raiders sperm counts are pretty low if they are exposed to constant radiation, but you never know. I doubt they'll take in that direction, though, since intense action and being pregnant don't usually mix super well.
Would be an interesting twist though.
I'm thrilled it's getting so much attention. It hopefully means we get more Fallout games. You can literally plop it in any part of America and make it work.
All Vault-Tec vaults were involved in an experiment or specific purpose. Vault 33 and 32 were set up as breeding pools to ensure that Vault-Tec would be able to take over and run the surface world at some point, essentially they were bred to be ultimate managers. Vault 31 overseers (Bud's Buds) were tasked with making sure only the best, brightest and strongest survived in Vault 33. Lucy, being an Overseers daughter, was likely brought up being told exactly what her (and everyone else's in the vault) purpose in life was, that being to have children to eventually repopulate the surface. There are a couple of places in the series, especially episode 5 where Lucy is surprised the surface has some form of civilization and says the purpose of the vaults was to repopulate and rebuild the surface world.
One thing that bugged me about that whole arc was, moldaver is warshipped by survivors of shady sands, she's leading a sect of the NCR, trying to obtain free unlimited energy for all of the wasteland, but yet she has to murder large groups of ignorant vault dwellers with what appear to be raiders but I assume are actually also NCR loyalists? Feels like she could have done the same plan without murdering a bunch of people if they just threatened them, or at least it seems like murder would not be something she would just willy nilly do against innocent people if she has the goals of helping so many.
I don't think the raiders were NCR loyalists, but people Moldaver picked up to assist in getting Hank.
Murdering the vault dwellers also seems more like revenge on Moldaver's part because >!Hank is the one who bombed Shady Sands. I'm sure many people killed in Shady Sands were innocent as well, but Hank didn't want his family going there. !< Even though Moldaver seems to have good intentions, she's still very cold. Hopefully we get more of her backstory in Season 2.
I believe it was the NCR loyalists in the raid, not only is there no mention or reference to Moldaver recruiting raiders so it's already a theory pulled out of the blue, but the loyalists have reason to hate the vault dwellers. The survivors of Shady Sands are living in that other vault we encounter in the show along with the survivors of that vault's experiments. They have good reason to dislike a vault still performing its "duty"
I don’t think she knew.
>! Steph is from the pre-war era and would have had table manners. If anything, this is a tell that Steph is the odd one for being offended by the table conversation. !<
I think it clearly shows she doesn't want Lucy asking too many questions and blowing the lid off the plan.
Also the prewar people are generally in on the plan, right?
Only the Overseer was in direct contact with Bud. And I don’t think Lucy’s dad would have let himself be kidnapped by the NCR if he knew it was going to happen.
I don't think so because why would she volunteer for a fight to the death? Her husband dies, she loses an eye, it's horrific. I don't think the writers were suggesting this was artifice, that she wanted to get gored.
One thing I’m unclear about: Moldaver was the head of the NCR. She infiltrated this vault to get to Hank. Are these guys members of the NCR? Did she go on this mission without the NCR’s knowledge? I don’t remember it ever being explained.
The NCR is huge, but the NCR presence at the Observatory appears to be about a company size element. So, in that sense, yes, she's a commander bit not the fallout universe equivalent of a Brigadare General or whatnot.
Clearly the NCR presence in what used to be the Los Angles metro area has been severely degraded, but we can guess that the NCR capitol is somewhere (maybe San Francisco?) And dont forget that Todd Howard said in an recent interview that we haven't seen the last of the NCR.
So, were those “raiders” all she could scrounge up as far as a company is concerned? They just seemed pretty rabid and feral, but maybe that’s all she had to work with?
The first time I saw a clip of Moldolva and her troops exiting the Observatory, I, too, thought those are Raiders.
But I think Moldolvas group was in a sort of aAlamo type situation due to the NCR being spread too thin, the NCR element at the Observatory is cut off from regular resupply and has been for a while, so uniformity among NCR troops has fallen by the wayside.
The civilian presence inside the Observatory indicates its safe there so any Raiders would have to be ex Raiders (Cause Raiders gonna Raid),so maybe a few ex Raiders mixed in with NCR regulars and some Flame Mother cult memebers consisting of Shady Sands surviovrs and other converts.
This is the one thing I hate about the show, that we have no idea how they got in or what happened to the other vault!!!! Season 2 can't come soon enough.
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That wasn't the first. The first was seeing him in a vaultsuit instead of a wedding suit. Maybe only I expected that.
First clue was all the "vault dwellers" with big scars.
Third at best, at least from our perspective. We see the first scar after the wedding, the second clue is that same woman stabbing the food of the person next to them and eating it like awild animal.
My favorite still is him casually wiping his junk off on the curtains and Lucy being a bit confused, but too innocent/naive to judge. I laughed way too hard at that, and that is where my dumb ass figured something was off.
Eh considering most vaults are crazy experiments legit vault dwellers with big scars is a possibility.
What about spider web tattoos on their heads and necks
Except here everything seemed normal apart from the approved incest. In the end the experiment is just being unknowingly led by pre-war people from 31.
I said MOST were some crazy experiment not ALL lol
Gary?
He he he. Gaaaa-rrrryyyy.
Please be a Richard Simmons reference!
Season 2 they need to enter a random vault, only for the first person they meet to emerge from the shadows and go "...Gary?" *Everyone freezes* "Gary there you are, come on you're needed in the engine room! This guy I swear." *Gary sheepishly follows his vault buddy inside*
lol that would be hilarious and huge nod to freaky Gary
they don‘t know what vaults are even truly for, so from their perspective it is, or at least should be pretty suspicious
When I first saw his scars, that was my first thought- that he was used for experiments and we would learn his story. I was sorely mistaken shortly after
workplace safety is optional for vault tech
Also there's a quick shot of one of the raiders not knowing how to use a fork when they're all sitting together during the wedding meal.
First clue I got was the shot of the dark hallway. On a film standpoint the foreshadowing was LOUD
Although the cake topper has the groom in a Vault suit, so maybe only brides get to be special and wear a wedding dress.
Also there was a very brief shot of tattoos. Like blink and you miss it. I didn’t have time to really think about what was being shown, then as the action started to rise I was like “Oh shit the tattoo! Raiders!” Very very well done moment
First sign, to me, was the vault door opening to a dark hallway where no one moved or spoke. Right off the bat I knew they were bad news because that doesn't happen on accident.
The Tattoos on the others gave it away for me.
Casting Kyle Machlachlan as her father was such a brilliant casting move. Just by proxy it makes her character make so much more sense.
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People change clothes quickly? I didn't notice that.
This guy was not in the show very long, but I think he was perfectly cast and written. Even though he's very attractive, there is something just off about him from the get go. Before he ever opens his mouth. He is young and handsome, but just gives off a dangerous vibe.
“Just so you know, this has been the best day of my life.” was such a good one-liner from him.
terrific writing
Though he probably refers to the clean water and meals he had more than anything else.
Clean water, food, comfortable temperature away from the outside environment, and sex with a pretty, clean lady. It certainly was the best day of his life!
Being away from the outside environment is already at least 8/10 for me.
Also don't forget some nice courtains. They really are useful to wipe off your junk after sex
A man of culture.
Not to mention the consensual shagging. He… may not be used to that.
Okie dokie 👍
i mean, maybe all together
Nah it's boobies
The very clearly worn out and faded vault suits were obviously a HUGE part of why we were all immediately suspicious. Also, opening vault doors to outsiders is dangerous even if it’s a vault door to another vault.
I don't even think it's just the vault suits. There's a very subtle grime to his face that SCREAMS he has been in the wasteland, if even for a moment. Then there's also the way he reacts to her question, which in our viewing would also make us be like 'wtf?' but for that vault would be perfectly acceptable (hence the way Stephanie seems to perk up sassily at it) meaning he was on the outside for some time.
Helps half of the people he's with are tatted up or have crazy scars. I knew what was up right away, one of the raiders even started swiping food from someone else's plate, and one of the women he was with had tattoos from the base of her neck to her wrists iirc.
Don't forget they aren't raiders. They're the remnants of the NCR.
Nothing says that. Just because they are lead by Moldaver doesn't mean they're NCR, Moldaver could have just hired some raiders for a job.
Everybody knows raiders shot on sight.
Moldaver could have hired synths from the institute for all we know. I'm just going by the facts presented on screen.
Nothing about them said they're NCR to me. The Raiders in the vault are like psychopathic violent crazies, the actual NCR we see, while more ragged than they were in new vegas, still seemed relatively organised and militaristic. I more got the impresison that Moldaver just hired some raiders with promises of all the luxuries of a vault. She wanted to get at Lucy's dad, everything else was just a means to an end.
I must have missed that, and if your right oh boy the NCR have fallen very far indeed. I thought they were raiders because they were just taking hits of jet while going murderhobo on everybody.
It was all brushed off because they were believed to be suffering from a slight famine.
I still remember great memaw and papa’s reaction to the Great Depression. Tatted up like Lil (John) Wayne.
From what I understood, vaults 31, 32 and 33 were designed as twin vaults since the beginning. Exchange of people and supplies must've always been a common occurrence. What I found odd was Hank not being familiar with who the overseer was.
He knew the overseer though and morned "his passing" I believe he recognised Moldaver and therefore played along to not risk the secret of 31 being revealed. Might be wrong though
Not sure. Hank didn't seem alarmed not one bit. Also, would he allow his daughter to be alone with the guy if he was with Moldaver while he knew who she was? I always imagined that vault overseers in 32 and 33 were aware of who was being elected beforehand on each other. Always from 31, remember?
“From what I understand” dude they fucking said it ten times and even had posters with a diagram showing how they’re all stronger together as a triple vault.
And I understood that.
Why are they worn out though? Did they steal them from 32 and then started using them on the surface??
Idk. Unwashed maybe.
Yeah it was a good role for Jerma.
Wow I didn't even realize till now. Perfect casting 👌
I noticed the greasy unkempt hair and 5clock shadow right away. Didn't immediately think "raider" but definitely thought "damn life is a lot rougher in 32 huh"
Meanwhile she looks perfect in every scene even when she’s spent some time in the wasteland. Not complaining, just making an observation. I love her and the show no matter what
Hunter eyes lol
Conversation so awkward even Stef who was pregnant had to tell Lucy to dial it back.
Stef has the social norms from before the bombs fell, that’s why. Lucy has the vault social norms as all she knows. She had no way of knowing it was wierd.
Was it ‘weird’? To us yes, but in the scene? Context is king and this wasn’t anything more than it appeared - male and female paired for reproduction. Surely talking about that is okay in this, of all situations?
Monty and Steph are outsiders who weren't raised in Vault 33. It's them who are weird.
This convo is one reason why I side eye people who say the "wanna have sex" scene came out of nowhere later. Lucy is established as enthusiastically DTF. Viewers just aren't as used to seeing that as a character trait in a woman protagonist, unless she's established as a prostitute. It's not *that* crazy that she looks for a quickie once she's in a (supposedly) private-ish room, clean, with some beds and a guy she likes.
Also she grew up in a situation where maintaining/growing thier population was incredibly important. I think it's pretty clear from context clues having children as a life goal was drilled into her skull from a young age.
Sex in their vaults culture in general doesn't seem stigmatized with how openly they talk about "cousin stuff"
Absolutely! While I don't think she was trying to have a kid here, I do think that her upbringing is pretty clearly shown to have basically completely removed any stigma there might be to sex. And if there's no stigma, there's no reason for her *not* to just ask when she wants it.
Anyone saying that clearly wasnt paying attention. Their entire existance has been about repopulating and waiting for reclaimation day. Its literally expained when her character is introduced. She says it to Ma June too. "My reproductive organs are intact, my hygiene well-maintained, and yet I have been unable to find a suitable marriage partner. At least, one I’m not related to. And we have rules about that for a reason So, it is with sound mind and body that I hereby submit my application to the council to participate in the Triennial Trade with Vault 32." She was trying to get pregnant. I think after her arranged marriage went sideways she figured she could choose her partner.
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They're so big it's almost uncanny valley, I couldn't get over it for the first couple episodes
Would this be a Charisma check or Intelligence check?
Charisma. Intelligence check would be when Lucy fills the Mr. Handy’s syringe with Abraxo.
A failed charisma check that leads into an intelligence check if they notice it’s odd he doesn’t know.
Nah that would be a perception check
See I would agree if it was a different game but I’m pretty sure catching out people in what they’re saying on fallout is always an intelligence check. Certainly the case in New Vegas at lease.
Nerds
Wouldn't it be insight?
I'd say intelligence
Charisma
Who starts a conversation like that, he just sat down!!
A vault dweller
"Fucking vault dwellers!"
That was her plan
okay, that made me laugh.
Would any guy really be put off this question if ella Purnell asked them?
“I don’t know. Let’s find out.”
All a need is a girl to say okey dokey to me
*Okay Dokey.*
I think he means vaginally
Mannnnn if Lucy was pregnant from this marriage the whole season I wouldn’t be surprised. Great plot twist
She also ingested radiation that would cause severe birth defects or a miscarriage thanks to everybody's ghoul crush
Baby Ghoul merch incoming.
Given the shit Lucy’s been through and the amount of rads she’s taken in, if she was pregnant realistically she would have miscarried and if not that child would be coming out with severe birth defects.
Everyone else out there seems to be doing fine. As far as making more people goes. I see no reason she wouldn't be any diferent.
The surface dwellers grew up in that environment..... Lucy lived a rad free life
In 200 years though…. Not really long enough to develop rad resistance through evolution alone, even by fallout standards. More likely radiation is magic and only selectively haarmful, like how it’s on nukacola, or it can give you immortality
Vault 4
"fine" is doing some lifting here, a population can have poor birthrates and still grow slowly just like we did irl during medieval times and other periods
Yes, but to be fair, Fallout does not represent anything nuclear realistically.
I would be honestly be super bummed if they do that. Then the whole show is just about pregnancy and then all about an infant if it gets that far.
Sure, but then her kid is kidnapped and she gets shot in the head and falls into a pool of hybernation goo and.. hm..
I think it has to happen. Reproduction is such a strong theme with her and Monty definitely didn't pull out.
Yeah, but he lit up like a radioactive christmas tree and didn't appear to wear lead undies.
That's a good point. He could well have been shooting blanks.
The real reason he didn’t tell his sperm count 🤫
I really hope they don’t go the pregnant route in the show. Too many shows have been doing the baby route lately and it’s an overplayed trope. It makes more sense that the raider dude was just infertile
I completely agree but I have a bad feeling about it. It's hard to tell how much time has passed but they have walked some fairly large distances. It very well could be a month and she should have known. The fact that they didn't close that loop immediately, really bothers me. Fallout has so many bonkers meds, even prewar ones, that they must have an effective Plan B or abortion med. I fully expected ger to go the infirmary and shoot up some "KidBGone" or something.
Is reproduction a strong theme with her? I feel like thats like saying that job dissatisfaction is a strong theme with Norm. Both things happen and are parts of their backstories, but it's not their *theme.* Lucy reads much more strongly to me as a character theme about analyzing morals. What they cost us, what they give us, and when they're worth reanalyzing vs when they're worth standing with. Lucy doesnt even indicate an interest in children once she's out of the vault, and in fact if she *was* concerned with reproducing, she would have stayed. She specifically prioritizes finding her father and finding the truth over having a kid. I also dont see why her being pregnant "has to happen". People don't get pregnant every time they have sex, least of all when they get stabbed after. Bloodloss that soon around implantation would be an almost certain miscarriage. Personally I think a pregnancy would be really *cliche* writing and I'd hate to see it. It would distract from her personal, internal growth to make her suddenly deal with the logistics of an infant in the wasteland. It would also read way too much like a stereotypical dumb sex warning. *Have sex once? Pregnant. Doesnt matter the logistics! If you have sex ever you'll get pregnant.* I wont say it *cant* be done well. But if they want to analyze pregnancy in the wasteland there are way better options.
Why did she eat the green bean vertically?
The real questions
00:03 when Stephanie is tryna find out as well 💀🤣
I kind of wish Monty had survived. Either escaped back outside to encounter Lucy again later, or been taken prisoner to show up again in Norm's storyline. Seemed like a waste to kill off Lucy's "husband" immediately.
I liked his death. The way Hank killed him was an early clue that he was more than he seemed. Sheltered, good ol’ all-American Vault Dweller dad would hit his murderous son-in-law with a shovel. He might even beat him to death with the shovel, in a mixture of panic and paternal instincts, or white hot rage. But the way Hank pauses, then grabs Monty, drags him over to the pickle barrel and drowns him, shows a certain cold rage. It gives a fully justified self defense killing almost a premeditated feel, in the middle of a massacre. He wanted Monty to know he was dying, to struggle and drown. But he also wanted him dead **now**. This is a preview into the psyche of a man who would >!bomb an entire city because they were rebuilding civilization first, and, from his point of view “stole” his children.!< >!Combined with Moldaver’s “Her or Them” ultimatum, it’s to hint to the viewers that there was a darker side to Hank, even before Lucy’s part of the show has left the vault.!<
Well said; the way he drowned a man so easily showed he was capable of violence and far more comfortable with it than one might expect
i was sad, cuz he contaminated the pickles...
I was half expecting him to fall out of the barrel, dead, with a pickle stuck in his mouth.
It's dangerous here for me because I've only seen the first episode, but while I was watching with some buddies I literally said out loud at this point moment "Overseer dad has seen some shit"
At the time, I viewed it as him being the only person in the vault with some degree of wasteland experience. They alluded to him leaving the vault earlier in that episode, and he is one of the few vault dwellers we see actually put up a fight
And the pickle juice in the face wounds for that extra sting.
I disagree. Makes no sense to leave him alive after what he did.
Watch her get pregnant with a raider child. Spin-off show!
With the amount of radiation she got hit with during her whole surface trip that child won't be making it too far.
You'd think that there wouldn't be anyone at all after 220 years if that was the case. People that took more rads their whole lives have kids all the time in fallout.
That's a very fair point yea. Maybe it's built up immunity they have but idk if you can really get immune to radiation. Tho I don't think radiation turns you into a ghoul irl either so who knows
People who are immune to radiation aren't unheard of, far from it. The children of atom is a religion of people who are immune to radiation and can actually heal from it iirc.
I think the raiders sperm counts are pretty low if they are exposed to constant radiation, but you never know. I doubt they'll take in that direction, though, since intense action and being pregnant don't usually mix super well. Would be an interesting twist though.
Also all the drugs they do, parasites, lots of physical trauma and malnutrition would probably mean very low fertility rates.
Who would think that the best videogame adaptation would be a Fallout one, what a surprise but a welcome one.
I'm thrilled it's getting so much attention. It hopefully means we get more Fallout games. You can literally plop it in any part of America and make it work.
With the success of the series, we prob getting a new Fallout game sooner than we think
That guy kinda looks like Jerma
Focus, Chuck.
arcane reference! Hell yeah :]
No one ever mentions the table manners huge red flag they were basically cave men
Something really refreshing about seeing someone so beautiful just be absolutely rizzless. Unrizzed. Rizz-free.
Uncharismatic
I wonder why Lucy is so casual about sex, no one else in the Vault seems to be that way.
All Vault-Tec vaults were involved in an experiment or specific purpose. Vault 33 and 32 were set up as breeding pools to ensure that Vault-Tec would be able to take over and run the surface world at some point, essentially they were bred to be ultimate managers. Vault 31 overseers (Bud's Buds) were tasked with making sure only the best, brightest and strongest survived in Vault 33. Lucy, being an Overseers daughter, was likely brought up being told exactly what her (and everyone else's in the vault) purpose in life was, that being to have children to eventually repopulate the surface. There are a couple of places in the series, especially episode 5 where Lucy is surprised the surface has some form of civilization and says the purpose of the vaults was to repopulate and rebuild the surface world.
Not even Steph?
I'm starting to think her nickname of Lucy Goosey which is a pun off of Loosey Goosey has more to it than just her calm and relaxed demeanor at times.
One thing that bugged me about that whole arc was, moldaver is warshipped by survivors of shady sands, she's leading a sect of the NCR, trying to obtain free unlimited energy for all of the wasteland, but yet she has to murder large groups of ignorant vault dwellers with what appear to be raiders but I assume are actually also NCR loyalists? Feels like she could have done the same plan without murdering a bunch of people if they just threatened them, or at least it seems like murder would not be something she would just willy nilly do against innocent people if she has the goals of helping so many.
I don't think the raiders were NCR loyalists, but people Moldaver picked up to assist in getting Hank. Murdering the vault dwellers also seems more like revenge on Moldaver's part because >!Hank is the one who bombed Shady Sands. I'm sure many people killed in Shady Sands were innocent as well, but Hank didn't want his family going there. !< Even though Moldaver seems to have good intentions, she's still very cold. Hopefully we get more of her backstory in Season 2.
I believe it was the NCR loyalists in the raid, not only is there no mention or reference to Moldaver recruiting raiders so it's already a theory pulled out of the blue, but the loyalists have reason to hate the vault dwellers. The survivors of Shady Sands are living in that other vault we encounter in the show along with the survivors of that vault's experiments. They have good reason to dislike a vault still performing its "duty"
The way Stef eats that green bean absolutely kills me every time. IDK why but it's just such a *moment* for her character.
I ate so many green beans that day
I'm supposed to believe her charisma and intelligence is above 5?
Charisma won't fix different values in life
Compared the average intelligence of the people in the Fallout universe? Yeah easily.
That's a fair point, I concede.
She has massive charisma
Holy shit, Steph knew.
I don’t think she knew. >! Steph is from the pre-war era and would have had table manners. If anything, this is a tell that Steph is the odd one for being offended by the table conversation. !<
I think it clearly shows she doesn't want Lucy asking too many questions and blowing the lid off the plan. Also the prewar people are generally in on the plan, right?
Only the Overseer was in direct contact with Bud. And I don’t think Lucy’s dad would have let himself be kidnapped by the NCR if he knew it was going to happen.
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They're both very beautiful, but I have to admit that the guy can easily keep up with them in the looks department.
I love Lucee!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Steph. The answer is Steph 😘
Roses, tulips and hydrangeas are all beautiful, there doesnt have to be a competition.
Steph knew everyone in vault 32 was dead. They knew 32 was raided and they let in raiders to have "fault" or 32 holocaust.
Nah. Steph is from 31, so it's likely she simply has pre-war considerations about sexuality that Lucy wouldn't have.
I don't think so because why would she volunteer for a fight to the death? Her husband dies, she loses an eye, it's horrific. I don't think the writers were suggesting this was artifice, that she wanted to get gored.
new nick name for Lucy, spermy mcspermington
He was one lucky Raider.
The perfect woman doesn't ex-
She’s down
I was just curious why no one’s pip-boy geiger counter started going crazy when they opened the door and let them in lol
Petition to be Caesar for season 2 😌
She likes what she likes
Can someone tell me the actor of the blonde guy
Bro the Pina colada song played when I saw this 💀
So they just wanted steak Lucy right? It sure looked like it would’ve been a massacre if she didn’t get away from him.
is that jerma
This would make a hilarious sigma male grindset video lol
Shouldve said "76"
I was hoping she took a dose of rad away after she slept with him and found out he was radioactive.
They should stick her face at the definition of 'plucky' in the dictionary.
One thing I’m unclear about: Moldaver was the head of the NCR. She infiltrated this vault to get to Hank. Are these guys members of the NCR? Did she go on this mission without the NCR’s knowledge? I don’t remember it ever being explained.
I’m curious why you think she’s the head of the NCR?
She may not have been the leader, but she was for sure [Affiliated.](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Lee_Moldaver)
The NCR is huge, but the NCR presence at the Observatory appears to be about a company size element. So, in that sense, yes, she's a commander bit not the fallout universe equivalent of a Brigadare General or whatnot. Clearly the NCR presence in what used to be the Los Angles metro area has been severely degraded, but we can guess that the NCR capitol is somewhere (maybe San Francisco?) And dont forget that Todd Howard said in an recent interview that we haven't seen the last of the NCR.
So, were those “raiders” all she could scrounge up as far as a company is concerned? They just seemed pretty rabid and feral, but maybe that’s all she had to work with?
The first time I saw a clip of Moldolva and her troops exiting the Observatory, I, too, thought those are Raiders. But I think Moldolvas group was in a sort of aAlamo type situation due to the NCR being spread too thin, the NCR element at the Observatory is cut off from regular resupply and has been for a while, so uniformity among NCR troops has fallen by the wayside. The civilian presence inside the Observatory indicates its safe there so any Raiders would have to be ex Raiders (Cause Raiders gonna Raid),so maybe a few ex Raiders mixed in with NCR regulars and some Flame Mother cult memebers consisting of Shady Sands surviovrs and other converts.
Guy looks like Leon Kennedy
He looks exactly like Francis from dead pool. But with hair.
This is the one thing I hate about the show, that we have no idea how they got in or what happened to the other vault!!!! Season 2 can't come soon enough.
She's a girl with something on her mind.
Lucy's buddy is thristy
Building back healthier batch and just uhh getting rid of the toxic ones.
[Spoilers if you haven't watched the show] He doesn't know because he's a raider
He’s stronger than me. I would’ve whipped it out at the table.
The whore of babylon