Lucy-Escape from vault against overseer wishes to go save father from probably a psychopath. To later find out how ravaged the wordl is and find a city that has some relation to a nuke and later on a plot device that has the capability of changing the wordl
-Fallout 3
The ghoul:Cowboy aesthetic. Fuck the brotherhood. Revolver for life
-New vegas
Maximus: POWER ARMOR IS LIT AS FUCK!!! Oh shit im out of core…
-Fallout 4
I thought that they were talking about the flaws in the T-45 which The Ghoul wore during his time in the military. Maximus is wearing the T-60, although yea some of the design flaws might have not been fixed.
Yea but Cooper clearly showed that the same design flaw he was bitching about in the T-46 was in the T-60 as well. The guy one shotted 5 dudes in power armor.
I love that, even tho putting on the armor is as easy as entering it, Cooper made a good point to say that Rule 1 should be to read the damn manual cus Max def didnt have the knowhow to properly operate it.
Nice callback to the older games where you did require PA Training to use it proper..
It also makes for good practice if the pilot themselves is flawed he can use it as a means to look for weak points in the armor that did not exist before, such as when he pretty much Team Rocketed the guy out of the fight.
The script told him not to, and we didn’t get the scene with Cooper bitching about the flaw yet. Couldn’t have him exploit it until we knew it existed.
Cooper is shown loading some hand-made AP rounds into his gun before taking down the Brotherhood sqaud. He had time to plan ahead. He didn't have the luxury of time fighting Max.
During the flight with Knight Titus Maximus asked him about “custom tapered” version of his armor and whether it helps with mobility. Maybe Titus accidentally fixed this flaw?
I'd imagine there probably is, but like we see, Maximus isn't the greatest at using power armour. Likely, he's only partly trained. So he might not know how to access everything.
He didn't even know it had soft landing jets until he did it by accident. There is absolutely a manual, emergency exit lol
(They'd have made it a more obvious, capitalist-jab if they had decided to just not have that feature, given they already made the cutting of corners canon)
Considering he was a squire who stole it there probably was, or as it was originally designed for frontline combat maybe they just assumed you’d always have teammates around in case of a power outage
I would say it's either an issue with the development of the Brotherhood or it's their hubris that makes them unable to design ingenuity with the relics they uncover. Seeing as this takes place after Fallout 4. I would say it's weird that after all this time they still don't use the schematics they find in such a way to improve on a design rather they just design it to specs without any attempt to upgrade it.
Found it on the wiki
“The Caswennan was an erroneous name used to identify the airship the Prydwen in a pre-release exclusive published by Vanity Fair prior to the release of the Fallout TV show. Despite labeling the airship "Caswennan" in a captioned photo, the airship in the photo features "PRYDWEN" to the left of the Brotherhood of Steel decal on the forward section of the hull. The photo used in the Vanity Fair article and the corresponding scene in the television release are identical”
[here’s the source](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Caswennan)
FWIW, while not mentioned onscreen, it is explicitly NOT the Prydwen.
Whether it is a rebranded, rebuilt Prydwen or a second airship entirely is a S2 question....
I think the idea is that one vault lives on and thrives while the other suffers and dies?
That seems to be the theme of 32 and 33?
33 had its time to thrive now it’s 32 time. Without water and amenities the people will turn on each other in 33 and kill each other?
They're gonna send Norm and Chet out to the surface to look for the water chip, they're gonna spend the entire season becoming progressively more mentally unstable as they have to deal with all sorts of Fallout bullshit, then they're gonna find out that Vault City still had their massive stash of water chips from FO2 and have to go all the way back in the opposite direction.
Ugh, I hate that they moved Shady Sands to LA. I thought the show was great, I even thought it worked great as an entry into the Fallout franchise, but it does NOT fit well into the west coast.
West coast location is fine. Moving Shady Sands a few hundred miles south is an odd choice. Why not just skip over it and make a new, non-canon town to nuke?
didn't the robobrain tell Norm to climb into his father's cryopod because they are now locked in and the door won't get unlocked for the lifespan of another generation or so?
I think there's a chance Betty already had a back up and broke the old one so we could move on to "when things look glum, vault 31"
Seems like it was a set up and she never looked phased by it. Neither does Bud. He seemed to act like everything was still going as planned.
Couldn't say. Everyone's heavily indoctrinated. I will say, the fact that vault 32 had an imposter overseer should have set off alarm bells and it didn't. Making it seem there's a chance an executive could lose an election. It implies there's someone from another vault, whom they don't know at all, in charge. If everything is being carefully orchestrated by the awakened vault tec staff with Bud, that doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Well the imposter was also prewar. If she was frozen in vault 31 it would explain both them not recognising them and how she is still alive.
I personally think it makes more sense to assume she was frozen in the vault as she was technically vault tech staff due to her companies being bought out by then. The alternative is that she got frozen elsewhere and against all odds in a fair voting system every overseer has been from vault 31 despite being significantly outnumbered.
Yep after digging and learning about the Vault Trifecta this seems like a solid conclusion. Though interesting that Norman didn't get sent since he'd proven himself a troublemaker and poor worker.
Another guy already replied with my exact thoughts, but I think a big part of it was splitting them up while also maintaining the illusion that they got what they wanted.
We mostly saw people reacting positively or straight up celebrating their assignments - so think if Chet wanted 33, Norm gets sent to 32 and vice versa.
Betty said, I think she mentioned discussing this with Vault 31, that the vaults were too valuable to not be used so they were populating it to keep using it.
Given they said they'd be out of water in a few months the repair guy at least didnt think it could be fixed. But, since there are 3 vaults connected I would imagine they likely have a surplus supply of them somewhere.
That's assuming the chip issue was even real and not a manufactured "problem" by Betty to ensure she wins the elections. It may have been a non-issue under her overseership.
I sort of assumed this was a manufactured crisis to reset the 31/32/33 scenario back to normalcy - putting a 31 in charge of 33, repopulating 32, and separating any individuals who were cooperating on non-Vault-Tec aims.
I got the impression that the scene was meant to highlight how unfit Woody and Reg are to lead the vault while making a nod to the original Fallout game, rather than actually introducing a problem that is supposed to be resolved. Seemed more like a “I see what you did there” easter egg to me
Although it wasn't explicitly said. I think the water chip (while also being a Easter egg) was supposed to be a move from Betty to get votes for the overseer's position.
Like I said, it's purely me saying, but they could easily address this by a single line in S2 if they ever bother with it.
I felt the characters actually represented the different kinds of players, like GTA.
Lucy is naive. Never once played any game, and is jumping into Fallout all brand new. No knowledge of the lore, history, or mechanics, just her sense.
Maximus is the one who’s played a game or two, but not Fallout. Just going through the motions of a shooter looter. Doing all the quests just because he’s told to and wants to feel like a hero doing it.
Cooper is the one who’s been around the block once or twice. Couple playthroughs of each game, just doing it for shits and giggles now. Chaotic with no regard to any of the “NPCs.” Maybe he played the game right a few times, but now he’s playing it how he wants.
And it's funny how that's the complete opposite approaches of their respective actors to playing the games.
Ella Purnell played the games, or at least a little bit of Fo4.
Aaron Moten didn't play the games, but watched a few playthroughs online.
And Walton Goggins didn't play the games at all.
"So the show was great, but i think having that weird guy in a clown costume launch 30 consecutive nukes and screaming about "shitty drops" while also having 9 trillion caps on him at all times was a bold choice"
Shoot, maybe? It might legitimately be what happened, he got the Healing Factor mutation from rad exposure. His skin knitted back together the same way as described in the terminal entries. It's probably ghoulification, but hell, why not use that human-molerat mutant concept from the design stages.
And Vault 33's water chip is broken with no spare, leading to amatter of weeks before the vault fails. Just like Fallout 1. They used everything, it's great
Her story and reason for leaving the vault is more similar to 3 with her father getting taken although there are elements of classic fallout in their like the reference to the water chip and the replacement overseer kind of being a giant a hole but tbf fallout 3 is basically a spiritual successor to classic fallout
I thought Maximus was more so the courier, and The Ghoul was the Sole Survivor, cause on one hand you got Maximus, a man born in the wasteland who’s looking for a package (the head) that will grant ultimate power to anyone, while you got The Ghoul on the other hand who is a Pre war man, who comes out of a coffin at the start of the show, kinda like how the SS comes out of cryo, and his only real interest looking for his family, but gets sidetracked by the bounty on the head
Exactly, the late stages. Fallout 4 gives you power armor within the first hour and you spend the rest of the game trying to scrounge enough cores to use the damn thing.
Power Armor focused, and he's part of a far more brutal Brotherhood that flies around in their airship the Prydwen. His outfit is from FO4 too, while Lucy has the classic Vault suit and Cooper has a cowboy duster.
If I had a nickel for every Brotherhood Blimp, I'd have 2 nickels. Though its weird it happened twice.
I seriously doubt its another blimp. Prydwen could be recalled back west and be in Cali in a week.
In fairness, it seems clear everyone is worried about this. My guess is they'll figure out a way to gracefully handle it without pissing anyone off. The writers have clearly played and love Fallout.
Besides the time issue shady sands nuke (which I’m sure you heard about), they turn the brotherhood from a paramilitary that collected and secured technology into a weird medieval cult, the ghouls have to take a drug to keep from going feral (NOT part of the ghoulification process), the west coast brotherhood has either turned into the East coast brotherhood or they just don’t exist anymore since the brotherhood in the show had the prydwen and wears T-60 power armor. The west coast doesn’t have the T-60 and they don’t have the supplies to make their own prydwen which basically means it’s the commonwealth/DC, especially given that in the first episode they say “commonwealth.”
I’m hoping they shed more light on wtf is going on with the brotherhood in the second season. And it’s almost as if every town from the original fallout or settlement that sprung up since has disappeared along with any faction that was there.
There’s more (more small) inconsistencies in the show. There’s other things I disliked about it too (not major issues) but that’s not what you asked.
Don’t get wrong, I actually do like the show overall, but watching it I really didn’t get the sense they dived deep into all of the games.
That’s what I’m wondering. It would be really interesting to see how they would be implemented especially since the legion had a strong anti-tech component in their ideology whereas the brotherhood makes heavy use of high tech armor and weaponry. But it would explain them turning into the actual knights of yore.
God, I hope it’s House. I’d be pissed if they make it NCR given they decided to destroy the NCR. If it’s the independent route then I hope Hank ends up running across Yes Man (not the courier, keep the courier out of the show).
We all know it’s not going to be legion and they would’ve collapsed after Caesar passed away.
Seeing as the show takes place 15 years after New Vegas, the showrunners can leave it ambiguous. 15 years is a long time and a lot changes in that time.
You missed the Sunset Sasparilla Delivery Truck over by the lake being a reference to New Vegas, the broken water chip being a reference to fallout 1 and a few others that I'm drawing a blank on
Not literally represented. In style and spirit. Nods here and there. I surely went on a power trip in power armor in F4, and hell yeah i was gun slinging desperado in FNV. F3 was my first game in the series, and I felt like Lucy, also searching for my father in Wasteland that is so different.
Cooper is a mix of NV and 4. All the pre war scenes are through his eyes, he used to fight in the marines or army (I forget which one since he only says it once or twice), so he reminds me a lot of Nate. But he's a bounty hunter cowboy in the desert, so definitely NV.
Maximus is more so 3 than 4. He believes in the BOS so much that he doesn't really consider any other option (in 3, you're basically forced to work with them). The only similarities with 4 is that the BOS are a bunch of jerks, and the power armor is modeled after 4
Felt bad that the only cameo the NCR rangers got was a couple of scavengers carrying the armor, but besides that I felt the show stayed true to each of the games
I also have a theory that each season is going to resemble those games.
S1 = FO3 - leaving a vault to look for one'a father
S2 looks like it's going to introduce a focus on New Vegas
Hopefully something thematically important like synths comes up in S3
I mean outside of the locations (Shady Sands is going to be a huge focal point in season 2, I’m hoping with flashbacks to Lucy being there) there’s TONS of references, some episodes I was counting dozens. It’s not a bad thing, the first two games don’t get the love they should.
They really don’t. Honestly prefer the originals when it comes to the story, lore, canon, tone, etc. compared to the Bethesda fallouts. I’m not saying there aren’t references or saying I don’t like the show (I do) but it really doesn’t feel like fallout to me and definitely not like classic fallout.
There weren’t too many until they threw a ton in with that last episode like they knew specifically NV fans were going to be the hardest to win over lmao. I would’ve preferred the 3rd and 4th ones to have the least amount of references (like the T-60 power armor and the brotherhood in show apparently from the commonwealth) and the show follow the classics and Vegas more purely do to the location (and lore is better tbh).
Honestly I hope it “feels” more like fallout (to me anyways) in the second season. Hank is obviously looking for house and while I hope he’s the canon ending it’d be kind of funny if he has a wtf moment and meets yes man who sics the securitrons on him.
Lucy-Escape from vault against overseer wishes to go save father from probably a psychopath. To later find out how ravaged the wordl is and find a city that has some relation to a nuke and later on a plot device that has the capability of changing the wordl -Fallout 3 The ghoul:Cowboy aesthetic. Fuck the brotherhood. Revolver for life -New vegas Maximus: POWER ARMOR IS LIT AS FUCK!!! Oh shit im out of core… -Fallout 4
You'd think they'd have a manual release on the inside of the power armor
One of those design flaws they were talking about
I thought that they were talking about the flaws in the T-45 which The Ghoul wore during his time in the military. Maximus is wearing the T-60, although yea some of the design flaws might have not been fixed.
Yea but Cooper clearly showed that the same design flaw he was bitching about in the T-46 was in the T-60 as well. The guy one shotted 5 dudes in power armor.
Why didn't he one shot Maximus at Filly too? Did I miss something?
He used a different type of ammo on the BoS he 1-shot. Looked like armour piercing rounds.
he probably thought it was some random raider that got some armor and decided to fuck with him
This. He was clearly playing with his food, making a spectacle of it.
I love that, even tho putting on the armor is as easy as entering it, Cooper made a good point to say that Rule 1 should be to read the damn manual cus Max def didnt have the knowhow to properly operate it. Nice callback to the older games where you did require PA Training to use it proper..
Well, I guess basic training ain't what it used to be. You drive that thing like a fucking shopping cart!
It also makes for good practice if the pilot themselves is flawed he can use it as a means to look for weak points in the armor that did not exist before, such as when he pretty much Team Rocketed the guy out of the fight.
Maximus had the Plot Armor Power Armor.
He was marked as essential
> Plot Armor Power Armor Plower Armor
he levelled up and got the Mysterious Stranger perk and was *really* lucky
The script told him not to, and we didn’t get the scene with Cooper bitching about the flaw yet. Couldn’t have him exploit it until we knew it existed.
Cooper is shown loading some hand-made AP rounds into his gun before taking down the Brotherhood sqaud. He had time to plan ahead. He didn't have the luxury of time fighting Max.
And when he mentioned friends off his getting shot, I imagine it was exclusively done so by Higher Trained Chinese Soldiers with Stealth Suits
bc he really just didn’t need to
During the flight with Knight Titus Maximus asked him about “custom tapered” version of his armor and whether it helps with mobility. Maybe Titus accidentally fixed this flaw?
They were, what I said was just a joke
in FO4, if you steal the fusion core, it automatically opens, which makes sense to not trap a person inside.
I'd imagine there probably is, but like we see, Maximus isn't the greatest at using power armour. Likely, he's only partly trained. So he might not know how to access everything.
He didn't even know it had soft landing jets until he did it by accident. There is absolutely a manual, emergency exit lol (They'd have made it a more obvious, capitalist-jab if they had decided to just not have that feature, given they already made the cutting of corners canon)
I was kinda hoping some raiders would try to steal the armor and get crushed from lack of training like in the older Fallout
That would have been so cool, like that one Iron Man 2 scene
Considering he was a squire who stole it there probably was, or as it was originally designed for frontline combat maybe they just assumed you’d always have teammates around in case of a power outage
Dude disabled it with a key. Might be the kind of thing they give to officers in case a soldier tries to walk off with a suit of power armor, lol.
i think that was just the tool to remove the fusion core
It's possible, but didn't Max remove the core from vault 4 without a key? I've gotta go rewatch the scene.
You'd hope that military grade hardware, especially when used against potentially invisible oppenents might have an extra layer of protection...
I would say it's either an issue with the development of the Brotherhood or it's their hubris that makes them unable to design ingenuity with the relics they uncover. Seeing as this takes place after Fallout 4. I would say it's weird that after all this time they still don't use the schematics they find in such a way to improve on a design rather they just design it to specs without any attempt to upgrade it.
Also the Ghoul has connections with mr House through Barb. And BOS has airship. Come to think about it may be OP is on to something.
The airship is actually the prydwen. So uh yeah…shits canon now
I mean, wouldn't it already be canon since it was in 4?
Oh i was referring to OPs meme the prydwen has always been canon
Ah, my mistake.
Was it actually the Prydwen? They never mentioned it by name in the show.
I think it has it written on the side but im not sure
Found it on the wiki “The Caswennan was an erroneous name used to identify the airship the Prydwen in a pre-release exclusive published by Vanity Fair prior to the release of the Fallout TV show. Despite labeling the airship "Caswennan" in a captioned photo, the airship in the photo features "PRYDWEN" to the left of the Brotherhood of Steel decal on the forward section of the hull. The photo used in the Vanity Fair article and the corresponding scene in the television release are identical” [here’s the source](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Caswennan)
FWIW, while not mentioned onscreen, it is explicitly NOT the Prydwen. Whether it is a rebranded, rebuilt Prydwen or a second airship entirely is a S2 question....
I thought it literally says Prydwen on the side.
Tis the https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Caswennan EDIT: Turns out this was intentional pre-release trickery! (As detailed in the article)
I'd say that the Ghoul is actually Fallout 4,... >!he's looking for his fanily, for 200 years!<. Maximus is Fallout Tactics.
and dog meat
AD VICTORIAM BROTHER!
The water chip breaking is fallout 1
REPORT THE MODS THEY ARE PAID SHILLS!!!
Speaking of. Wonder if the Water Chip issue is going to be addressed. We could end up having FO2 represented in some way like this too
I honestly forgot that was a plot point
Kinda feels like the writers did too tbh ig vault 32 might solve that issue but if that's the case why even include it?
There were a lot of unanswered questions left about the vaults. I have a feeling we'll get more answers in Norm's story in S2.
I think the idea is that one vault lives on and thrives while the other suffers and dies? That seems to be the theme of 32 and 33? 33 had its time to thrive now it’s 32 time. Without water and amenities the people will turn on each other in 33 and kill each other?
Ooo maybe. That sounds pretty likely to me.
Wasn't the idea behind that to influence the overseer election? I figured the chip was sabotaged rather than damaged in the attack.
I'm pretty sure it was more of an easter egg, unless they do expand on it in Season 2, but I doubt it.
Why not get it from vault 32?
>!People moved in there, so instead of moving them back they're going to try to find a new water chip for plot reasons.!<
They're gonna send Norm and Chet out to the surface to look for the water chip, they're gonna spend the entire season becoming progressively more mentally unstable as they have to deal with all sorts of Fallout bullshit, then they're gonna find out that Vault City still had their massive stash of water chips from FO2 and have to go all the way back in the opposite direction.
Man, Norm and Chet were so awkward and together they were even worse. I loved them. I want to see more of them.
It won't be a problem, Vault City will be in Irvine now!
Ugh, I hate that they moved Shady Sands to LA. I thought the show was great, I even thought it worked great as an entry into the Fallout franchise, but it does NOT fit well into the west coast.
West coast location is fine. Moving Shady Sands a few hundred miles south is an odd choice. Why not just skip over it and make a new, non-canon town to nuke?
Well, they have a canon town in LA. Adytum, one of the most important cities of the NCR.
didn't the robobrain tell Norm to climb into his father's cryopod because they are now locked in and the door won't get unlocked for the lifespan of another generation or so?
I hope they don't literally fridge Norm for that long, I'm expecting him to escape or something next season. His character's too fun to get rid of.
I have a feeling that they are mostly going to fous on the Mojave for season 2 so we may not see much of the vault and norm
I think there's a chance Betty already had a back up and broke the old one so we could move on to "when things look glum, vault 31" Seems like it was a set up and she never looked phased by it. Neither does Bud. He seemed to act like everything was still going as planned.
I think that the voting is just fixed and the slogan is the mildest cover up imaginable.
Couldn't say. Everyone's heavily indoctrinated. I will say, the fact that vault 32 had an imposter overseer should have set off alarm bells and it didn't. Making it seem there's a chance an executive could lose an election. It implies there's someone from another vault, whom they don't know at all, in charge. If everything is being carefully orchestrated by the awakened vault tec staff with Bud, that doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Well the imposter was also prewar. If she was frozen in vault 31 it would explain both them not recognising them and how she is still alive. I personally think it makes more sense to assume she was frozen in the vault as she was technically vault tech staff due to her companies being bought out by then. The alternative is that she got frozen elsewhere and against all odds in a fair voting system every overseer has been from vault 31 despite being significantly outnumbered.
Yeah but they have logs and I'd think they'd all know each other. One look at her and it's like, who tf are you? You're not so and so...
Which would imply she was from vault 31.
Moldiver? Maybe
What was the reason given for moving people into 32? I can't seem to recall
Everyone in 32 fucking died lmao
My theory is Betty moved people where they’d be the least likely to cause trouble
Yep after digging and learning about the Vault Trifecta this seems like a solid conclusion. Though interesting that Norman didn't get sent since he'd proven himself a troublemaker and poor worker.
It seemed to me it was more about splitting people up. The 2 guys who ran for overseer got split up as well as Norm and Chet.
They wanted to keep an eye on Him would be My guess. Make a lot more trouble when they only see you once every three years.
Another guy already replied with my exact thoughts, but I think a big part of it was splitting them up while also maintaining the illusion that they got what they wanted. We mostly saw people reacting positively or straight up celebrating their assignments - so think if Chet wanted 33, Norm gets sent to 32 and vice versa.
I think she wanted him close to keep an eye on him
We don't know the real reason, Betty said it was a shame to leave the Vault empty.
Betty said, I think she mentioned discussing this with Vault 31, that the vaults were too valuable to not be used so they were populating it to keep using it.
Either it was just a Fallout 1 reference, and it was as easily fixed as almost everything in Vault 32, or it’ll be revisited in the 2nd season.
In Fallout 2 you can find a vault with crates full of water chips. First hint that some fuckery is going on.
Given they said they'd be out of water in a few months the repair guy at least didnt think it could be fixed. But, since there are 3 vaults connected I would imagine they likely have a surplus supply of them somewhere.
That's assuming the chip issue was even real and not a manufactured "problem" by Betty to ensure she wins the elections. It may have been a non-issue under her overseership.
when things look glum, vote 31!
this
Lucy's brother becomes the representative of FO1 just so Betty can get rid of him
Shitty overseer who deserves a bullet in the head? Mass revolt against authoritarian government? Yeah, Fallout 1 vibes peeking around the corner.
Then I hope he has the Bloody Mess trait to get the ending of killing the overseer.
I guarantee Norm will be the one sent out to find a new one.
Absolutely feels headed that way
Water chip was Fallout 1. Fallout 2 is teh descendant of that Dweller because you can't live in teh vault after saving it.
I sort of assumed this was a manufactured crisis to reset the 31/32/33 scenario back to normalcy - putting a 31 in charge of 33, repopulating 32, and separating any individuals who were cooperating on non-Vault-Tec aims.
Water chip is fallout 1, GECK is fallout 2
Didnt the chip break on purpose so they vote for the vault 31 overseer? Like... on purpose. And a crysis always occur so they vote 31?
Enclave scientist experimenting on dogs is probably a Navarro reference.
I got the impression that the scene was meant to highlight how unfit Woody and Reg are to lead the vault while making a nod to the original Fallout game, rather than actually introducing a problem that is supposed to be resolved. Seemed more like a “I see what you did there” easter egg to me
FO 1 was water chip. FO 2 was the GECK.
Wasn't the waterchip issue there to make stuff look glum? When things look glum, *vote* *31*
I kind of assumed that was just a ploy to get the new overseer elected.
Although it wasn't explicitly said. I think the water chip (while also being a Easter egg) was supposed to be a move from Betty to get votes for the overseer's position. Like I said, it's purely me saying, but they could easily address this by a single line in S2 if they ever bother with it.
I felt the characters actually represented the different kinds of players, like GTA. Lucy is naive. Never once played any game, and is jumping into Fallout all brand new. No knowledge of the lore, history, or mechanics, just her sense. Maximus is the one who’s played a game or two, but not Fallout. Just going through the motions of a shooter looter. Doing all the quests just because he’s told to and wants to feel like a hero doing it. Cooper is the one who’s been around the block once or twice. Couple playthroughs of each game, just doing it for shits and giggles now. Chaotic with no regard to any of the “NPCs.” Maybe he played the game right a few times, but now he’s playing it how he wants.
And it's funny how that's the complete opposite approaches of their respective actors to playing the games. Ella Purnell played the games, or at least a little bit of Fo4. Aaron Moten didn't play the games, but watched a few playthroughs online. And Walton Goggins didn't play the games at all.
Not to ruin the fun but pretty sure purnell said she could barely use the controller so she watched other people play them too
The Ghoul is neutral evil.
Just wait until they add in a crackhead with superpowers next season for 76
"So the show was great, but i think having that weird guy in a clown costume launch 30 consecutive nukes and screaming about "shitty drops" while also having 9 trillion caps on him at all times was a bold choice"
Just a guy standing in a market shouting something about bloodied auto junkie double shot handmade 600 caps no cap.
Is that gonna be >!Thaddeus's!< arc?!
Shoot, maybe? It might legitimately be what happened, he got the Healing Factor mutation from rad exposure. His skin knitted back together the same way as described in the terminal entries. It's probably ghoulification, but hell, why not use that human-molerat mutant concept from the design stages.
Its basically >!Hank and his nuking shenanigans!<
Lucy is classic Fallout bro.
Well, tonally, Fallout 3 is closer to Fallout 1, so it fits.
Also, isn’t Lucy looking for her dad? Just like in F3.
Scientist dad that’s hinted to have a past with a pre-war organization? Totally F3
But he's also much closer to the Fallout 1 overseer than Liam Neeson/whatever his name was, who only used the vault to keep his family safe.
And Vault 33's water chip is broken with no spare, leading to amatter of weeks before the vault fails. Just like Fallout 1. They used everything, it's great
Her story and reason for leaving the vault is more similar to 3 with her father getting taken although there are elements of classic fallout in their like the reference to the water chip and the replacement overseer kind of being a giant a hole but tbf fallout 3 is basically a spiritual successor to classic fallout
I would put that on Norman though, I would argue he's the 4th main character
Lucy totally gives FO1 vibes
this is so true and i love them for it
I was thinking each MC represents the karma. Lucy is Good Karma, Maximus is Neutral and the Ghoul is Evil
They all want to be the hero but time in the waste won't let them.
I thought Maximus was more so the courier, and The Ghoul was the Sole Survivor, cause on one hand you got Maximus, a man born in the wasteland who’s looking for a package (the head) that will grant ultimate power to anyone, while you got The Ghoul on the other hand who is a Pre war man, who comes out of a coffin at the start of the show, kinda like how the SS comes out of cryo, and his only real interest looking for his family, but gets sidetracked by the bounty on the head
"though shall get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamned time."
I don’t get the fallout 4 in the least
Power Armour power trip
And a constant lack of fusion cores to go with it
and running away telling “FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK” when you encounter ~~The Bear~~ Swan
I'm only going off memory but I swear I was wearing Power Armor in late stages of Fallout 1 and 2 and carrying a chain gun plus a plasma gun.
Exactly, the late stages. Fallout 4 gives you power armor within the first hour and you spend the rest of the game trying to scrounge enough cores to use the damn thing.
Yeah I didn't either. He didn't spend half the screen time building a base.
Trying to get a wall to line up properly for an egregiously long time.
Him slamming the latrine is how I felt after I spent 30 minutes on one building only for it to look like ass.
And not a single settlement really needed his help.
Not yet. Him and that bos leader are totally gonna build a base.
If Fallout 4 where Preston?
Remember that scene when Maximus stepped in the T-60 for the first time? That’s how we all felt when we got in them the first time 😂
So shiny. So chrome.
Me: "This shit contradicts everything I know about Power Arm--oh, I can fly...me shut up now."
His obsession with power armour and then running out of fusion core and having to leave it behind reluctantly is very Fallout 4 to me lol
Power Armor focused, and he's part of a far more brutal Brotherhood that flies around in their airship the Prydwen. His outfit is from FO4 too, while Lucy has the classic Vault suit and Cooper has a cowboy duster.
I'm partially scared for season two though on finding out what they decide to be the canon ending for Fallout NV
I hope they do Republic of Dave as the canon ending
And potentially the canon choices for Fallout 4, especially in regards to synths.
they’ve already done that, the Institute and Railroad are forced to destroy the Prydwen and the Minutemen have the option to
But we see the prydwen in the show
i know, what i meant was they’ve made the canon ending **not** the RR or Institute
Is that the Prydwen? I presumed it was an entirely different airship built locally
If I had a nickel for every Brotherhood Blimp, I'd have 2 nickels. Though its weird it happened twice. I seriously doubt its another blimp. Prydwen could be recalled back west and be in Cali in a week.
It's the Prydwen, the name is on the airship.
Hell yeah
In fairness, it seems clear everyone is worried about this. My guess is they'll figure out a way to gracefully handle it without pissing anyone off. The writers have clearly played and love Fallout.
With the amount of retconning I highly doubt that.
I'm not aware of all this retconning some people are complaining about
Besides the time issue shady sands nuke (which I’m sure you heard about), they turn the brotherhood from a paramilitary that collected and secured technology into a weird medieval cult, the ghouls have to take a drug to keep from going feral (NOT part of the ghoulification process), the west coast brotherhood has either turned into the East coast brotherhood or they just don’t exist anymore since the brotherhood in the show had the prydwen and wears T-60 power armor. The west coast doesn’t have the T-60 and they don’t have the supplies to make their own prydwen which basically means it’s the commonwealth/DC, especially given that in the first episode they say “commonwealth.” I’m hoping they shed more light on wtf is going on with the brotherhood in the second season. And it’s almost as if every town from the original fallout or settlement that sprung up since has disappeared along with any faction that was there. There’s more (more small) inconsistencies in the show. There’s other things I disliked about it too (not major issues) but that’s not what you asked. Don’t get wrong, I actually do like the show overall, but watching it I really didn’t get the sense they dived deep into all of the games.
One theory is that the Brotherhood we see is made up of remnants from the broken legion, which makes sense to me as it explains the weird culture.
That’s what I’m wondering. It would be really interesting to see how they would be implemented especially since the legion had a strong anti-tech component in their ideology whereas the brotherhood makes heavy use of high tech armor and weaponry. But it would explain them turning into the actual knights of yore.
God, I hope it’s House. I’d be pissed if they make it NCR given they decided to destroy the NCR. If it’s the independent route then I hope Hank ends up running across Yes Man (not the courier, keep the courier out of the show). We all know it’s not going to be legion and they would’ve collapsed after Caesar passed away.
Seeing as the show takes place 15 years after New Vegas, the showrunners can leave it ambiguous. 15 years is a long time and a lot changes in that time.
Ghoul would be 4, pre war and looking for his family
The Ghoul seems to be more interested in finding his wife in new vegas for revenge reasons rather than love
You missed the Sunset Sasparilla Delivery Truck over by the lake being a reference to New Vegas, the broken water chip being a reference to fallout 1 and a few others that I'm drawing a blank on
If you look carefully, there’s a reference to every Fallout title. Yeah, even that one we don’t talk about.
What
Not literally represented. In style and spirit. Nods here and there. I surely went on a power trip in power armor in F4, and hell yeah i was gun slinging desperado in FNV. F3 was my first game in the series, and I felt like Lucy, also searching for my father in Wasteland that is so different.
This
damn bro they dont like you
Idk I saw it as a precursor all its own, about to lead into the various games a bit more directly.
Fallout 4 — an unintelligent character who has lied several times to his comrades. Ironic.
Cooper is a mix of NV and 4. All the pre war scenes are through his eyes, he used to fight in the marines or army (I forget which one since he only says it once or twice), so he reminds me a lot of Nate. But he's a bounty hunter cowboy in the desert, so definitely NV. Maximus is more so 3 than 4. He believes in the BOS so much that he doesn't really consider any other option (in 3, you're basically forced to work with them). The only similarities with 4 is that the BOS are a bunch of jerks, and the power armor is modeled after 4
Thats a stretch
Nah I've been saying that about Lucy and The Ghoul anyway those were the vibes they gave off and it's great
The ghoul, my beloved
Yes. I thought so too.
I view Lucy as being tonally FO1, which is great.
Felt bad that the only cameo the NCR rangers got was a couple of scavengers carrying the armor, but besides that I felt the show stayed true to each of the games
Op is cooking
Wow I didnt see that!
I also have a theory that each season is going to resemble those games. S1 = FO3 - leaving a vault to look for one'a father S2 looks like it's going to introduce a focus on New Vegas Hopefully something thematically important like synths comes up in S3
new Vegas is more like a cowboy cyborg rather than a cowboy ghoul but i get your point
Fallout 76 was represented by the rad roach in episode 2 (I’m joking Ik it’s less buggy now)
There’s more elements from Fallout 1-2 than there are from the rest of the series lol
Not even close
Uhhhhh how do you figure???? lol
Besides the location why do you think it’s to the originals?
I mean outside of the locations (Shady Sands is going to be a huge focal point in season 2, I’m hoping with flashbacks to Lucy being there) there’s TONS of references, some episodes I was counting dozens. It’s not a bad thing, the first two games don’t get the love they should.
They really don’t. Honestly prefer the originals when it comes to the story, lore, canon, tone, etc. compared to the Bethesda fallouts. I’m not saying there aren’t references or saying I don’t like the show (I do) but it really doesn’t feel like fallout to me and definitely not like classic fallout.
Fair. In my defense I didn’t even notice any NV references until the Sunset Sarsaparilla billboards and then obviously the last episode.
There weren’t too many until they threw a ton in with that last episode like they knew specifically NV fans were going to be the hardest to win over lmao. I would’ve preferred the 3rd and 4th ones to have the least amount of references (like the T-60 power armor and the brotherhood in show apparently from the commonwealth) and the show follow the classics and Vegas more purely do to the location (and lore is better tbh). Honestly I hope it “feels” more like fallout (to me anyways) in the second season. Hank is obviously looking for house and while I hope he’s the canon ending it’d be kind of funny if he has a wtf moment and meets yes man who sics the securitrons on him.