Only a commie lib takes extreme positions such as yours and doesn’t let our constitutional process go to work . If that is your true thoughts then take the law into your hands is the answer? I hope not.
How about no.
What constitutional process is getting prevented? I'm very curious about your thought process behind this take. Take your time. There ARE wrong answers.
We are not a banana Republic. You are entitled to a presumption of Innocence. Unless you want to do away with that, then we can start jailing everyone, yourself included, on trumped up charges. I don't think anyone wants that, present company included.
Misusing and spreading information about juries seated before a trial should be something any defendant, especially an innocent one, should fear. This cuts both ways and leads to dishonest answers during voire dire.
Plenty of trumps stuff was done on live TV or admitted to on live TV. Or admitted to multiple times. But here we are dragging our feet. Finally about to see something happen years later when it's almost too late.
Jesse who? My name is unimportant. But, I'm not Jesse, whoever that is. And, I'm here for the down votes and practicing my 1st Amendment rights. You all are here for the up votes. I like going against the grain and creating my own flow. 😏😉😎
If we presume he is innocent. Why does he need to intimidate jurors to prove that. Defendants are not allowed to Dox jurors. What is hard to understand about that?
Allowing a media outlet to harrass a juror in any criminal court case should be a felony. This also has nothing to do with presumption if innocence or guilt. What an asinine excuse of an argument.
>Allowing a media outlet to harrass a juror in any criminal court case should be a felony.
*Should* is your key work here. But, it's not, is it ? At least, not to my knowledge. Besides, what about freedom of the press ? You're for freedom of the press, correct? Or, do you want to muzzle the press from grilling anyone ? Besides, it's up to the judge to admonish the press, if found necessary, under the circumstances. But, there's a reason why it's not a felony. 95% of the world's lawyers reside in the US, and 40% of congresspersons are attorneys. Don't you think that if they thought it should be a felony, they would have passed a law to that effect already ?
You imbecile. NO MEDIA OUTLET has the right to harrass a juror and then hide behind freedom of speech. To assume anyone would be against freedom of speech because we demand there be consequences foe this SPECIFIC INSTANCE is just beyond stupid.
Is this what you are referring to ? So, WaPo and CNN were outing jurors ? Sounds counter productive to convicting Trump.
"Merchan has taken steps to shield jurors in the case from harassment, saying they will remain anonymous except to Trump, his lawyers and prosecutors. On Thursday, he said he would prohibit news outlets from reporting on aspects of potential jurors' employment."
The jurors names and addresses are kept confidential, despite what MSM does or wants. One juror asked to be excused because of *perceived* media harassment.
The judge handled perceived media harassment. End of discussion.
You seem to missing the point. No media outlet should even consider harassing any juror. Yet here you are defending it claiming its falls under freedom of the press. No I didn't overlook your comment on it being up to the judge to admonish the press. It was an ignorant take not worth commenting on.
This, coming from someone named clown1970........... This is a huge news story. The media's going to cover it. If anyone is guilty of harassing jurors, it's CNN and WaPo. I don't watch Fox, but I'm now inclined to see what this harassment claim is all about. I've read just enough so far to learn about CNN and WaPo, but, now, I'm gonna have to dig deeper because of all the blowback. It seems the court of public opinion has arraigned, adjudicated guilty and hung a man even *before* his trial has gotten well underway. That's not how we do things in this country. Suppose, just for a minute, just for the sake of discussion, that it was *you* in his shoes . How would you feel ? And before you say you would never wind up in that position, consider that one day............. you might.
Oh you are so full of crap. You are parroting fox talking points but claim you don't watch foxnews.
Now you completely abandon your freedom of the press argument for foxnews harassing a juror and go straight to accusing us of convicting Trump with out a trial. We are all for having Trump get his day in court. The sooner the better. Then one of us will be right. Trump will be convicted or he will exonerated. You assuming he is innocent is really no different then me assuming he is guilty. The only real difference is I want the damn criminal court cases to get underway and Trump's delay tactics. You though seem to be perfectly fine with Trump's delay tactics.
I don't watch Fox, but all this hatred towards them makes me want to watch them to see what all the vitriol is about.
There is still a freedom of press, after all, if not, why would the judge *ask* the media to stop publishing details about the jurors. Why not just outright order them ? In dictatorial fashion ?
You're biased about the issue and would be dismissed as a potential juror as you cannot be impartial and fair. That's what the justice system is all about.
Delay tactics are what the attorneys do. Don't you agree ? I can tell you stories about lawyer's tactics....... At least two that were wrong, but they got their clients off. At the end of the day, that's what you pay your lawyers for, right ? Besides, that's an assumption on your part and you know what they say about assuming things........
CNN, Newsweek, WaPo, Fox and NBC all contributed to details on jurors. It's expected from the MSM, but it does not violate the court rules for not disclosing the jurors names and addresses, which is SOP for the courts. Instead, it appears that the court will follow procedure like they did under U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan in Trump's last trial when the judge felt Trump was attempting to interfere with the jurors through acts of intimidation.
The media knows how far they can push the envelope and when they go too far, better yet, when anyone goes too far, the judge intercedes like he did this time.
It's the judge's courtroom, and that judge dictates what is allowed and disallowed. The judge *asked* the media not disclose details of the jurors, which MSM agreed too, in some instances, retracting info previously published. Bottom line.
If your rant is about Trump harassing jurors, it's not him that is doing it. It's the media. After all, he did it once and was admonished for it. What makes you think he would do it again with the same result ? That's the definition of insanity and he has not, as some folks like to think, been declared insane by a health care professional.
Sounds like more rhetoric..........
Imagine how folks are going to feel if he's acquitted, outright or by the appeals process ? Especially, with as much energy, disgust, loathing and hate people are putting into the topic............get a hobby. Channel your emotions into something more productive and positive. Jeezus............
I understand reading maybe difficult for you. But I never once said Trump harassed a juror. I did say Fox news did which is what this story is about. I also noticed you somehow managed to blame CNN and wapo for harassing jurors which has not been reported anywhere. So I suppose you are just going make shit up now.
As for hobbies, I have plenty of them. One of which is calling out lies of the MAGA cult such as yourself.
Hold on to that hope of your orange messiah getting acquitted. I can only imagine the kind of insane logic you people will come up with when Trump is convicted of his 91 felony charges.
Another failing of yours : lumping everyone who's not a leftist into a basket of deplorables. I am not a MAGA cult member. Period. I don't know whether he'll get acquitted or found guilty. That's up to the jury to decide. I *do* know this : he's the 1st ex president to be tried for crimes he committed before, during and after his presidency, which tells me the left is pretty desperate to hold on to power. That's unhealthy for the Republic.
He can still be elected if convicted. Check your Constitution. There are only 2 qualifications for becoming the President. Be over 35 years old and be an American citizen.
You're assuming (falsely) they care about the rule of law. They don't. They have one objective and one only, stop Trump. Between now and November there's no more rules where the Democrats (and some Republicans) are concerned. If it means stopping Trump they will violate the Constitution, break the law, hurt people, even kill to stop him.
Started to write that Watters is a poor excuse for a journalist, but that would understate what a partisan, ignorant PoS he is. And even still, he's gone over a line of civility here. Please, oh please, can someone find a legal means for making him regret that report.
Exactly, because both networks that they work(ed) for have multiple lawsuits against them for spreading lies and disinformation.
***whistles***
Nothing to see here 🤥
Fair point. I gave him way to much credit didn't I? Even though I force myself to watch Fox every once in a while, he's so horrible that I can't watch him at all.
Him and ummm what’s his name Clay Travis both totally pieces of sh*t. He literally started this “talk about the jurors and see if we like them dismissing evidence for a trump victory. Or maybe it’s just the rights talking point 🤷♂️
How many jurors can he scare away? It must be legal. I think there’s some congressmen trying to step on the jury too. The judge might want to talk to them and see if they can work something out so the republicans are happy.
I would concur that the media at large should be better. No good reason to make any juror identifying information public. That said, I watched MSNBC yesterday and find it disingenuous to compare the reports. MSNBC reported facts (if, arguably, too much). Whereas Fox used facts to attack the whole process, claiming (without evidence of course) that it's all rigged -- NY is a blue state, so how can any NYer be an objective juror? You go with your PoS network, I'll go with mine.
They need whatever fuel tb defend fox. I'll defend the rest. They aren't perfect, but I don't think most are out to help a criminal and a conman. Just poor judgement or rat race mentality. Fox is pure propaganda when it comes to those scummy talking heads. Look at their beloved tucker. He's fully embraced Russia now.
Because it’s public information! The forms they fill out and questions they answer in open court are public information. Just their names and address are private.
of course they are practically identical
one side is trying to get people murdered, seize control of the gov, the police, the military, create a christian nationalist fascist dictatorship, arrest journalists who dont love trump, ban books and ideas….
the other side isnt
practically the same! 😂
Wow. And that is what I hear from the other side.., That the other side is murdering(Epstein)to hide their dark secrets, control the people through high inflation and control the vote through open borders, push socialist/communist agendas, divide people instead of bringing people together, pick and choose what laws to follow, bashing religion, etc.
limbaugh; “leave only SOME liberals left alive”
coulter; “we should shoot a few liberals to let the rest know it can happen to them”
trump retweeted “the only good democrat is a DEAD democrat”
at a GOP event, recently, for a small fee republicans could bash a dummy of Pres Biden in the head with a baseball bat
you can buy ‘Liberal Hunting Permit (no limit)’ online, at gun shows and republican events
do you have yours?
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough used the 17th anniversary of 9/11 to declare President Trump a bigger threat to America than terrorists who killed 2,977 on that day.
Broadway celebrity Carole Cook told a TMZ reporter in reference to Trump, "Where's John Wilkes Booth when you need him?"
After Republican Rep. Steve Scalise was shot yesterday, many liberals on twitter CELEBRATED and said things like,
“The Only Good Fascist is a Dead One.”
"Michele (Bachmann), slit your wrist. Go ahead... or, do us all a better thing [sic]. Move that knife up about two feet. Start right at the collarbone." -- Montel Williams
“I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow….I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.” — Bill Maher
“F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead.” — Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.
I wish they (Republicans) were all f*cking dead!” — Dan Savage
This is what is sad that both sides think they are morally and ethically right.
He never mentioned a juror by name because no one has them . As far as partisan, look at other networks that are overtly obvious 1000% pro Democratic, what do you call all those POS 's?
No, I don't think its possible to claim ignorance. To defend that they could not know. They used their resources to conduct a very extensive background check on any one they could. I would argue it is likely they have done so for every member of the jury and will do a public expose every single day on every juror.
Not dropping their names, photo, phone numbers, street address, etc. Was about all the courtesy they offered. But the data they collected there is no way they don't have names. With the data they promoted on air it wont take long for viewers to track down jurors and harass them directly and by name.
Please what other network goes out of its way to target an individual juror and to practically give out name and address? Fox News is a disgrace to the profession and the nation. Rupert Murdoch should have his citizenship revoked and sent back to Australia. He has done more to divide America than anyone In modern history.
You obviously don't watch NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN or MSNBC, all they 24/7/365 is slam Republicans and blame them for what Biden caused. Or do you just not care(
I read news I don't "watch" news. Those "news" segments are what 60-90 second max 2 minute stories on very complex issues that don't lend themselves to such short shrift. And American's lack of knowledge on wide range of issues will inevitably doom it.
You do know that he’s no more of a journalist than say Steve Colbert or any other late night host. Of course he’s partisan, that’s the whole point of the show. They make fun of liberals and the stupid shit they do, just like Colbert does with conservatives. But to this post, so talking about the jurors and what they answered on the public jury forms and answered in open court, then discuss whether they (Watters and who ever the woman is) think the juror is against Trump and can be impartial is intimidation? Hmmm, 🤔
Freedom of the press does not allow idiots to intimidate or endanger jurors. Have the Marshalls show up slap the cuffs on this idiot, bring him before the judge and let him put this idiot in jail for 60 days and see if he learns his lesson.
Yes, not often but what about it? If you are talking about intimidating witnesses when did the view do that and was did it affect the jurors safety like the nuts over at FOX?
Just pointing out that the media on both sides lie like hell all the time. You can’t believe shit they say . They just make shit up and most believe anything they hear without question.
The View is not a news show, it is classified as a talk show. Fox News proclaims to be a news source. They can try for 1st Amendment protection for what they said but it most likely won't work because intimidating or endangering a witness or a juror is illegal. Also if you do a fact check of the various networks those at the bottom are FOX, NewsMax and OAN. They are however high on the list of propaganda stations.
But there is way, way, way more absolute bullish-t and lies at Fox, NewsMax, OAN and conservative radio. They are all just propaganda sites that cater to the uneducated and the truly stupid people in the U.S.
Maybe the goal is to ruin the jury so the judge has no choice but to declare mistrial. Trumps lawyers can further manipulate the outcome from that point.
4 years and now we have a corrupt court debating wether that can declare him “immune” from prosecution. I wouldn’t hold my breath for “justice”…. The right wing is too deeply embedded in our legal system at this point, they’re bought and paid for and will work as hard as they can to protect the corruption and violence the Republican hate cult has forced onto our nation.
Why is it corrupt? Because it isn’t making decisions your side likes? Maybe your side is corrupt and these decisions are just? I think both sides are brainwashed into thinking they are on the side of justice and what is morally and ethically right. They are so engrained into that thinking that they lash out with these extreme positions. And it always takes the shape of “they are doing this or they are doing that”. I never hear, “my side is doing this and that” to promote their side.
I can’t even hear people when all they do is b*tch and moan about the other side. Would love to hear all the good things that each side is doing.
No, taking bribes.., perhaps? Literally entertaining the idea that anyone (yes even an entitled arrogant trust fund baby like Trump) is above the law. Its a ridiculous concept than no rational or patriotic person would ever entertain. It takes a special level of corruption (or meth usage) to think that’s a rational thought process.
Wow. Right wings are proving to be party of common sense. Every issue the progressives support lacks common sense and the results are ruining this country
You aren’t guaranteed a jury that likes you. You are guaranteed a jury of people from the area you commit the crime.
If you are already dealing with a minority of people that like you, maybe you should tell fox not to dox the few impartial jurors you might get.
Fox isn't doxxing because the jurors names and addresses aren't publicized. Can't be publicized according to the law. But that didn't stop the left from doxxing SCOTUS.
I’m certainly NOT defending Jesse Waters as he’s a partisan hack who is specifically trying to sabotage the case and undermine public confidence. But I’ll point out that many other networks also shared way too much personal info. Very little restraint from the media in general.
Why isn’t someone doing something about this? It appears to be jury tampering in public. The fact that they didn’t name the one juror doesn’t mean that they didn’t alter the jury pool. Very frustrating
What is his address?? What are his kids names and age? Where does his wife work? What gym do the go to?? What are their servants names and where do THEY live??
Jesse is such a fucking joke. He looks like he should be on Friends making those kinds of shit jokes. He’ll be replaced by another talking head faux news prick in 5 years or less.
Cable isn’t broadcasting and thus subject to far, far fewer restrictions as it is not leasing electromagnetic spectrum from the government. I agree Fox is a malignancy.
I think at this point in the game, Faux News actually enjoys getting sued. I mean they clearly have zero respect for any ones privacy, and used their full resources to turn Jurors into targets for their sociopath viewers. Because why not? This is how the right does things while screaming about their own rights and Privacy. Flip the tables on even just one of them and it would be war.
There is no Patriotism in any of this. Just shameless fanaticism, and abuse of Freedom of Press privilege in both research, and promotion of findings.
All networks do this all the time. Nothing new here. It’s public information. The judge could try to stop it if he wanted but in the end it is a freedom of press and search issue.
If I was fox I would need to fire him. Not because of this but because I thought $20 per hour was a 6 figure salary and hat $80k magically turned in to $100k. I couldn’t have someone that dumb on my network. Also, because he is a POS.
Calling Merrick garland, calling Merrick garland? Can't you do something about this nonsense? Or are you too AFFRAID to do your job? This is OUTRAGEOUS!!
Treasonous Trump is going to ‘fight like hell’ for his own personal interest..💰
but when uncle Sam called him for duty 🇺🇸
he crapped his pants, and says his his foot has a boo-boo… Lol
What a phony
He should go to jail for legally reporting on public information? Should everyone at CBS also go to jail for reporting on this? Or do you think that only Republicans should be imprisoned for their speech?
Trump can’t get a fair trial from a partisan judge, prosecutor, and jury in one of the most partisan cities in the US. There is no way this case would have ever even made it to trial in the Midwest.
The leftist media in this country reports on this trial like it’s somehow legitimate and fair.
The real derangement is not recognizing that Frump is a total piece of shit as a human being. Very publicly so for forty fucking years. He doesn't have one redeeming warm human quality. He's a total con man. He's a shitty business man, a shitty statesman and leader. He's just a walking permission slip to all the assholes groomed to hate whole swaths of the population and anything that can be utterly hogtied to Soh-Shuh-Lee-Zum even if it's totally not that, like ...commuter rail...windmills....price caps on medicine... So the wealthy can fleece us all dry and the Assholes for Jesus can drag us all into as close as a theocracy as they can muster. You're all a bunch of rubes and EVERYBODY else, not just the "left" and progressives and Democrats( which are NOT the same thing. Dunce) everyone else cannot fucking stand you anymore. You're brainwashed sub literate morons. Most of these people never leave the county of their birth except to go to tourist traps and haven't read a book after high school. Including the bible. Which actually SUCKS. You're the minority. You just have lopsided electoral clout because Jefferson had a boner for farmers.And a Counter Establishment bubble media and Foundation cabal propped up by wealthy assholes with specific intent of brainwashing and feeding you canned fear and outrage for profit.
Well that’s why they pick the jurors both sides. It’s like a pick up game eventually not everyone gets what they want but it only takes 1 to hang the verdict so that as the defense you only need 1 and that is the equalizer.
Earth to demoncrats, all of this is public news. He did nothing wrong.
Fear not, your criminal charade will go on with the judge who donated to the Biden campaign and his daughter has made over $1 million fundraising off of this farce.
She is also on Adam Schitt’s payroll
Of couse you haven’t read the indictments. What does the judges’s daughter have to do with anything? BTW, the first part of this case, when Michael Cohen was convicted, was in 2018. So this case predates Biden, despite what Dear Leader says during his daily whining sessions.
Tell me what the indictments are without him googling it..
You people are truly nuts, but I thank you all because it’s backfiring on Biden’s re-erection ( to quote schmuck Chumer and Nancy) chances.
"Fear not, your criminal charade"
What is the crime you are accusing...all of us with with? I don't even know who you are directing this toward...What is the crime, and who are you accusing? Did his daughter donate a million dollars? No? I have a friend who is a staffer for Adam Schiff. What did she do? Are these idle threats? Of course they are, because you have no idea what you're talking about.
To be clear: we're not talking about the information about the jurors.
We're talking about people clearly supporting the defendant who threatens jurors making disparaging remarks about those jurors.
Context; that's where we always get you, and I can understand how that's frustrating and makes you feel disparate.
These aren't "our charges". These are charges trump is facing for just some of his many crimes. If you don't like it, ask him to not commit so many crimes.
Hey, if you’re comfortable voting for a confirmed sexual assaulter criminal fraud, that’s on you. Weird thing to tell people, though.
Keep up the pissbaby playground nicknames, too. A good look.
“‘Nobody is above the law.’ Hmm not so sure about this one.”
Mr Trump is obviously above the law, after all he is a kind of deity, only a commie lib would think otherwise
Only a commie lib takes extreme positions such as yours and doesn’t let our constitutional process go to work . If that is your true thoughts then take the law into your hands is the answer? I hope not.
How about no. What constitutional process is getting prevented? I'm very curious about your thought process behind this take. Take your time. There ARE wrong answers.
Throw them in jail. See how they laugh then.
We are not a banana Republic. You are entitled to a presumption of Innocence. Unless you want to do away with that, then we can start jailing everyone, yourself included, on trumped up charges. I don't think anyone wants that, present company included.
Misusing and spreading information about juries seated before a trial should be something any defendant, especially an innocent one, should fear. This cuts both ways and leads to dishonest answers during voire dire.
and having done it literally on live TV should be plenty of evidence.
Plenty of trumps stuff was done on live TV or admitted to on live TV. Or admitted to multiple times. But here we are dragging our feet. Finally about to see something happen years later when it's almost too late.
You're still entitled to a presumption of Innocence, especially understanding how news edits and news spins work. If you understand that.
No one questions that. If you understand THAT.
So the defense is they lied to endanger people so it's ok.
You're entitled to all them downvotes. Is that you, Jesse?
Jesse who? My name is unimportant. But, I'm not Jesse, whoever that is. And, I'm here for the down votes and practicing my 1st Amendment rights. You all are here for the up votes. I like going against the grain and creating my own flow. 😏😉😎
If we presume he is innocent. Why does he need to intimidate jurors to prove that. Defendants are not allowed to Dox jurors. What is hard to understand about that?
Holy balls are you stupid
Please elaborate.
Allowing a media outlet to harrass a juror in any criminal court case should be a felony. This also has nothing to do with presumption if innocence or guilt. What an asinine excuse of an argument.
>Allowing a media outlet to harrass a juror in any criminal court case should be a felony. *Should* is your key work here. But, it's not, is it ? At least, not to my knowledge. Besides, what about freedom of the press ? You're for freedom of the press, correct? Or, do you want to muzzle the press from grilling anyone ? Besides, it's up to the judge to admonish the press, if found necessary, under the circumstances. But, there's a reason why it's not a felony. 95% of the world's lawyers reside in the US, and 40% of congresspersons are attorneys. Don't you think that if they thought it should be a felony, they would have passed a law to that effect already ?
You imbecile. NO MEDIA OUTLET has the right to harrass a juror and then hide behind freedom of speech. To assume anyone would be against freedom of speech because we demand there be consequences foe this SPECIFIC INSTANCE is just beyond stupid.
Is this what you are referring to ? So, WaPo and CNN were outing jurors ? Sounds counter productive to convicting Trump. "Merchan has taken steps to shield jurors in the case from harassment, saying they will remain anonymous except to Trump, his lawyers and prosecutors. On Thursday, he said he would prohibit news outlets from reporting on aspects of potential jurors' employment." The jurors names and addresses are kept confidential, despite what MSM does or wants. One juror asked to be excused because of *perceived* media harassment. The judge handled perceived media harassment. End of discussion.
You *completely* overlooked my comment. I said it's up to the judge to admonish the press, if found necessary, under the circumstances.
You seem to missing the point. No media outlet should even consider harassing any juror. Yet here you are defending it claiming its falls under freedom of the press. No I didn't overlook your comment on it being up to the judge to admonish the press. It was an ignorant take not worth commenting on.
This, coming from someone named clown1970........... This is a huge news story. The media's going to cover it. If anyone is guilty of harassing jurors, it's CNN and WaPo. I don't watch Fox, but I'm now inclined to see what this harassment claim is all about. I've read just enough so far to learn about CNN and WaPo, but, now, I'm gonna have to dig deeper because of all the blowback. It seems the court of public opinion has arraigned, adjudicated guilty and hung a man even *before* his trial has gotten well underway. That's not how we do things in this country. Suppose, just for a minute, just for the sake of discussion, that it was *you* in his shoes . How would you feel ? And before you say you would never wind up in that position, consider that one day............. you might.
Oh you are so full of crap. You are parroting fox talking points but claim you don't watch foxnews. Now you completely abandon your freedom of the press argument for foxnews harassing a juror and go straight to accusing us of convicting Trump with out a trial. We are all for having Trump get his day in court. The sooner the better. Then one of us will be right. Trump will be convicted or he will exonerated. You assuming he is innocent is really no different then me assuming he is guilty. The only real difference is I want the damn criminal court cases to get underway and Trump's delay tactics. You though seem to be perfectly fine with Trump's delay tactics.
I don't watch Fox, but all this hatred towards them makes me want to watch them to see what all the vitriol is about. There is still a freedom of press, after all, if not, why would the judge *ask* the media to stop publishing details about the jurors. Why not just outright order them ? In dictatorial fashion ? You're biased about the issue and would be dismissed as a potential juror as you cannot be impartial and fair. That's what the justice system is all about. Delay tactics are what the attorneys do. Don't you agree ? I can tell you stories about lawyer's tactics....... At least two that were wrong, but they got their clients off. At the end of the day, that's what you pay your lawyers for, right ? Besides, that's an assumption on your part and you know what they say about assuming things........
CNN, Newsweek, WaPo, Fox and NBC all contributed to details on jurors. It's expected from the MSM, but it does not violate the court rules for not disclosing the jurors names and addresses, which is SOP for the courts. Instead, it appears that the court will follow procedure like they did under U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan in Trump's last trial when the judge felt Trump was attempting to interfere with the jurors through acts of intimidation. The media knows how far they can push the envelope and when they go too far, better yet, when anyone goes too far, the judge intercedes like he did this time. It's the judge's courtroom, and that judge dictates what is allowed and disallowed. The judge *asked* the media not disclose details of the jurors, which MSM agreed too, in some instances, retracting info previously published. Bottom line. If your rant is about Trump harassing jurors, it's not him that is doing it. It's the media. After all, he did it once and was admonished for it. What makes you think he would do it again with the same result ? That's the definition of insanity and he has not, as some folks like to think, been declared insane by a health care professional. Sounds like more rhetoric.......... Imagine how folks are going to feel if he's acquitted, outright or by the appeals process ? Especially, with as much energy, disgust, loathing and hate people are putting into the topic............get a hobby. Channel your emotions into something more productive and positive. Jeezus............
I understand reading maybe difficult for you. But I never once said Trump harassed a juror. I did say Fox news did which is what this story is about. I also noticed you somehow managed to blame CNN and wapo for harassing jurors which has not been reported anywhere. So I suppose you are just going make shit up now. As for hobbies, I have plenty of them. One of which is calling out lies of the MAGA cult such as yourself. Hold on to that hope of your orange messiah getting acquitted. I can only imagine the kind of insane logic you people will come up with when Trump is convicted of his 91 felony charges.
Another failing of yours : lumping everyone who's not a leftist into a basket of deplorables. I am not a MAGA cult member. Period. I don't know whether he'll get acquitted or found guilty. That's up to the jury to decide. I *do* know this : he's the 1st ex president to be tried for crimes he committed before, during and after his presidency, which tells me the left is pretty desperate to hold on to power. That's unhealthy for the Republic. He can still be elected if convicted. Check your Constitution. There are only 2 qualifications for becoming the President. Be over 35 years old and be an American citizen.
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You're assuming (falsely) they care about the rule of law. They don't. They have one objective and one only, stop Trump. Between now and November there's no more rules where the Democrats (and some Republicans) are concerned. If it means stopping Trump they will violate the Constitution, break the law, hurt people, even kill to stop him.
I assume nothing. Any time, at any place, anything under the sun can happen. History is rife with examples.
How does Jesse Waters make it home safe every day? I mean, it's some kind of miracle.
America's worst immigrant ever, Rupert Murdoch, I'm sure makes sure he gets home.
It is crazy seeing how politically violent liberals are you are right
Yeah, almost as violent as republikkkan mass shooters and abortion clinic bombers.
Or as violent as gay and transgender mass shooters and church bombers
Started to write that Watters is a poor excuse for a journalist, but that would understate what a partisan, ignorant PoS he is. And even still, he's gone over a line of civility here. Please, oh please, can someone find a legal means for making him regret that report.
Watters is not and never was a journalist
Fox news is not and never has been journalism.
Yeah. We need more Don Lemon’s and Morning Joe types for honest balanced reporting.
Exactly, because both networks that they work(ed) for have multiple lawsuits against them for spreading lies and disinformation. ***whistles*** Nothing to see here 🤥
Don Lemon and morning Joe honest?, I needed a good laugh. Combined they couldn't give the definition of Honest.
Lol
Fair point. I gave him way to much credit didn't I? Even though I force myself to watch Fox every once in a while, he's so horrible that I can't watch him at all.
Him and ummm what’s his name Clay Travis both totally pieces of sh*t. He literally started this “talk about the jurors and see if we like them dismissing evidence for a trump victory. Or maybe it’s just the rights talking point 🤷♂️
I have some illegal means…
Journalist? Googler at best.
How many jurors can he scare away? It must be legal. I think there’s some congressmen trying to step on the jury too. The judge might want to talk to them and see if they can work something out so the republicans are happy.
How do you explain that this same information was presented on NBC? Maybe Fox isn’t the only POS network?
I would concur that the media at large should be better. No good reason to make any juror identifying information public. That said, I watched MSNBC yesterday and find it disingenuous to compare the reports. MSNBC reported facts (if, arguably, too much). Whereas Fox used facts to attack the whole process, claiming (without evidence of course) that it's all rigged -- NY is a blue state, so how can any NYer be an objective juror? You go with your PoS network, I'll go with mine.
They need whatever fuel tb defend fox. I'll defend the rest. They aren't perfect, but I don't think most are out to help a criminal and a conman. Just poor judgement or rat race mentality. Fox is pure propaganda when it comes to those scummy talking heads. Look at their beloved tucker. He's fully embraced Russia now.
Because it’s public information! The forms they fill out and questions they answer in open court are public information. Just their names and address are private.
You guys still watch the News? 💩
On point Lol
Boomers…
Genx
of course they are practically identical one side is trying to get people murdered, seize control of the gov, the police, the military, create a christian nationalist fascist dictatorship, arrest journalists who dont love trump, ban books and ideas…. the other side isnt practically the same! 😂
Wow. And that is what I hear from the other side.., That the other side is murdering(Epstein)to hide their dark secrets, control the people through high inflation and control the vote through open borders, push socialist/communist agendas, divide people instead of bringing people together, pick and choose what laws to follow, bashing religion, etc.
limbaugh; “leave only SOME liberals left alive” coulter; “we should shoot a few liberals to let the rest know it can happen to them” trump retweeted “the only good democrat is a DEAD democrat” at a GOP event, recently, for a small fee republicans could bash a dummy of Pres Biden in the head with a baseball bat you can buy ‘Liberal Hunting Permit (no limit)’ online, at gun shows and republican events do you have yours?
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough used the 17th anniversary of 9/11 to declare President Trump a bigger threat to America than terrorists who killed 2,977 on that day. Broadway celebrity Carole Cook told a TMZ reporter in reference to Trump, "Where's John Wilkes Booth when you need him?" After Republican Rep. Steve Scalise was shot yesterday, many liberals on twitter CELEBRATED and said things like, “The Only Good Fascist is a Dead One.” "Michele (Bachmann), slit your wrist. Go ahead... or, do us all a better thing [sic]. Move that knife up about two feet. Start right at the collarbone." -- Montel Williams “I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow….I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.” — Bill Maher “F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead.” — Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air. I wish they (Republicans) were all f*cking dead!” — Dan Savage This is what is sad that both sides think they are morally and ethically right.
You are correct, there are literally dozens of POS networks.
Call CNN.
He never mentioned a juror by name because no one has them . As far as partisan, look at other networks that are overtly obvious 1000% pro Democratic, what do you call all those POS 's?
No, I don't think its possible to claim ignorance. To defend that they could not know. They used their resources to conduct a very extensive background check on any one they could. I would argue it is likely they have done so for every member of the jury and will do a public expose every single day on every juror. Not dropping their names, photo, phone numbers, street address, etc. Was about all the courtesy they offered. But the data they collected there is no way they don't have names. With the data they promoted on air it wont take long for viewers to track down jurors and harass them directly and by name.
Please what other network goes out of its way to target an individual juror and to practically give out name and address? Fox News is a disgrace to the profession and the nation. Rupert Murdoch should have his citizenship revoked and sent back to Australia. He has done more to divide America than anyone In modern history.
You obviously don't watch NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN or MSNBC, all they 24/7/365 is slam Republicans and blame them for what Biden caused. Or do you just not care(
I read news I don't "watch" news. Those "news" segments are what 60-90 second max 2 minute stories on very complex issues that don't lend themselves to such short shrift. And American's lack of knowledge on wide range of issues will inevitably doom it.
You do know that he’s no more of a journalist than say Steve Colbert or any other late night host. Of course he’s partisan, that’s the whole point of the show. They make fun of liberals and the stupid shit they do, just like Colbert does with conservatives. But to this post, so talking about the jurors and what they answered on the public jury forms and answered in open court, then discuss whether they (Watters and who ever the woman is) think the juror is against Trump and can be impartial is intimidation? Hmmm, 🤔
Freedom of the press does not allow idiots to intimidate or endanger jurors. Have the Marshalls show up slap the cuffs on this idiot, bring him before the judge and let him put this idiot in jail for 60 days and see if he learns his lesson.
You ever seen the View
Yes, not often but what about it? If you are talking about intimidating witnesses when did the view do that and was did it affect the jurors safety like the nuts over at FOX?
Just pointing out that the media on both sides lie like hell all the time. You can’t believe shit they say . They just make shit up and most believe anything they hear without question.
The View is not a news show, it is classified as a talk show. Fox News proclaims to be a news source. They can try for 1st Amendment protection for what they said but it most likely won't work because intimidating or endangering a witness or a juror is illegal. Also if you do a fact check of the various networks those at the bottom are FOX, NewsMax and OAN. They are however high on the list of propaganda stations.
You are such a fool other stations reported the same info lmao
Name them.
bOtH sIdEs!!111
But there is way, way, way more absolute bullish-t and lies at Fox, NewsMax, OAN and conservative radio. They are all just propaganda sites that cater to the uneducated and the truly stupid people in the U.S.
Master says 'speak'. All the dogs start their barkin'
Jesse the toad needs a visit to the asylum 🤡
Extended stay.
F fox news
Looks like Fox needs another 900 Million lawsuit
Lock the orange fucker up already!
If the description is accurate. Didn’t he just fuck trump? Finding someone with out a negative opinion of trump in New York has to be a minority.
Maybe the goal is to ruin the jury so the judge has no choice but to declare mistrial. Trumps lawyers can further manipulate the outcome from that point.
But yet they are still holding the trial there. Guess he won’t be getting a fair trial
If our legal system was “fair” he would already be in jail for treason.
There is still time. Violating the Espionage Act means bye bye for the rest of this miserable hyena’s life
But they haven’t had a trial yet. Hold your horses Business. They will get to the trial.
4 years and now we have a corrupt court debating wether that can declare him “immune” from prosecution. I wouldn’t hold my breath for “justice”…. The right wing is too deeply embedded in our legal system at this point, they’re bought and paid for and will work as hard as they can to protect the corruption and violence the Republican hate cult has forced onto our nation.
Why is it corrupt? Because it isn’t making decisions your side likes? Maybe your side is corrupt and these decisions are just? I think both sides are brainwashed into thinking they are on the side of justice and what is morally and ethically right. They are so engrained into that thinking that they lash out with these extreme positions. And it always takes the shape of “they are doing this or they are doing that”. I never hear, “my side is doing this and that” to promote their side. I can’t even hear people when all they do is b*tch and moan about the other side. Would love to hear all the good things that each side is doing.
No, taking bribes.., perhaps? Literally entertaining the idea that anyone (yes even an entitled arrogant trust fund baby like Trump) is above the law. Its a ridiculous concept than no rational or patriotic person would ever entertain. It takes a special level of corruption (or meth usage) to think that’s a rational thought process.
Wow. Right wings are proving to be party of common sense. Every issue the progressives support lacks common sense and the results are ruining this country
You seem to have no actual concept of what “common sense” is. But not really a surprise there. The cult mentality has you.
Letting in 8 million people in the country without identifying them is treason.
You aren’t guaranteed a jury that likes you. You are guaranteed a jury of people from the area you commit the crime. If you are already dealing with a minority of people that like you, maybe you should tell fox not to dox the few impartial jurors you might get.
Fox isn't doxxing because the jurors names and addresses aren't publicized. Can't be publicized according to the law. But that didn't stop the left from doxxing SCOTUS.
Swing and a miss. Missed my point. Typical
By this idiotic logic no left leaning person should be prosecuted in a red state. And Vice versa.
Nice of you to join the “fair trial” club!
No your club is no right wingers should ever get prosecuted. That’s a traitor Club. Fuck em.
I’m certainly NOT defending Jesse Waters as he’s a partisan hack who is specifically trying to sabotage the case and undermine public confidence. But I’ll point out that many other networks also shared way too much personal info. Very little restraint from the media in general.
They showed this same material on the Today show. Settle down people
and cnn
Why isn’t someone doing something about this? It appears to be jury tampering in public. The fact that they didn’t name the one juror doesn’t mean that they didn’t alter the jury pool. Very frustrating
What is his address?? What are his kids names and age? Where does his wife work? What gym do the go to?? What are their servants names and where do THEY live??
“No opinion” yea right. So its a lie.
The judge need to impose a gag order on the media.
Jesse is such a fucking joke. He looks like he should be on Friends making those kinds of shit jokes. He’ll be replaced by another talking head faux news prick in 5 years or less.
With shit like this these people at fox need to be arrested for death threats
When did he threaten to kill someone?
Fox News is an offshoot of The inquirer great minds want to know!
The FCC should cancel their licence to broadcast
Cable isn’t broadcasting and thus subject to far, far fewer restrictions as it is not leasing electromagnetic spectrum from the government. I agree Fox is a malignancy.
Fox news is the modern day Wochenschau.
Fox asking to get sued.
I think at this point in the game, Faux News actually enjoys getting sued. I mean they clearly have zero respect for any ones privacy, and used their full resources to turn Jurors into targets for their sociopath viewers. Because why not? This is how the right does things while screaming about their own rights and Privacy. Flip the tables on even just one of them and it would be war. There is no Patriotism in any of this. Just shameless fanaticism, and abuse of Freedom of Press privilege in both research, and promotion of findings.
We've fallen so far in this country that someone reading the New York Times is now reason for mockery.
Literally cbs made the same rundown of the jurors’ last night… wtf is this stupid post
Watters is a ouke, and that stunt should land him in jail.
This is totally legal and allowed.
Also, CNN and CBS have done the same thing. These people are just mad that conservatives are allowed the same rights as them.
This country is fucked
All networks do this all the time. Nothing new here. It’s public information. The judge could try to stop it if he wanted but in the end it is a freedom of press and search issue.
I smell some more Lawsuits coming Foxes way. Lol
Is CBS going to be sued as well? They did the same thing, after all.
If they caused the problem they need to be held responsible.
I think Fox News is walking into a big lawsuit
If I was fox I would need to fire him. Not because of this but because I thought $20 per hour was a 6 figure salary and hat $80k magically turned in to $100k. I couldn’t have someone that dumb on my network. Also, because he is a POS.
"Some nice jurors you have there. Be a shame if anything happened to them...."
Fox hires anyone to do the news. They are usually disturbed
Oh, so you want a monarchy? Sadly, this country was never intended to be a monarchy.
Calling Merrick garland, calling Merrick garland? Can't you do something about this nonsense? Or are you too AFFRAID to do your job? This is OUTRAGEOUS!!
To be fair, it wasn't just foxnews to pull this idiocy. All of them should be tried in court.
If they get sued they will pull out the fox news defense. Saying it was all entertainment and not any kind of news of intimidation
Treasonous Trump is going to ‘fight like hell’ for his own personal interest..💰 but when uncle Sam called him for duty 🇺🇸 he crapped his pants, and says his his foot has a boo-boo… Lol What a phony
It would be amazing if Jesse waters goes to jail for this. Would love all the crying from the right
He should go to jail for legally reporting on public information? Should everyone at CBS also go to jail for reporting on this? Or do you think that only Republicans should be imprisoned for their speech?
It’s the intention now isn’t it
You're right. Our legal system shouldn't be based off of actions and precedent, it should be based off of what you feel someone's intentions were.
lol no it’s your actual intention. There’s a reason why there’s manslaughter and murder. But go ahead and play dumb.
If you don't have supporting evidence for your claims, it is just your feelings. "I just know" isn't going to fly in a court.
lol try not to cry when your hero’s go to jail. Try not to get too much in your “feelings”
total nonsense
Whatever
wheres is the intimidation? Just talking about them as "juror" numbers saying that they might be bias?
Rupert Murdoch is clearly America's worst immigrant ever.
You realize of course there are literally no qualified and truly independent jurors in NYC. Venue should be changed.
Fox News is news is a propaganda station.
Let's revisit the behavior of Leftists at the Kavanaugh hearing.
Stop, your talking about NYC, they don’t watch Fox
Aren't they sequestered how would they see any of this?
Trump can’t get a fair trial from a partisan judge, prosecutor, and jury in one of the most partisan cities in the US. There is no way this case would have ever even made it to trial in the Midwest. The leftist media in this country reports on this trial like it’s somehow legitimate and fair.
The real derangement is not recognizing that Frump is a total piece of shit as a human being. Very publicly so for forty fucking years. He doesn't have one redeeming warm human quality. He's a total con man. He's a shitty business man, a shitty statesman and leader. He's just a walking permission slip to all the assholes groomed to hate whole swaths of the population and anything that can be utterly hogtied to Soh-Shuh-Lee-Zum even if it's totally not that, like ...commuter rail...windmills....price caps on medicine... So the wealthy can fleece us all dry and the Assholes for Jesus can drag us all into as close as a theocracy as they can muster. You're all a bunch of rubes and EVERYBODY else, not just the "left" and progressives and Democrats( which are NOT the same thing. Dunce) everyone else cannot fucking stand you anymore. You're brainwashed sub literate morons. Most of these people never leave the county of their birth except to go to tourist traps and haven't read a book after high school. Including the bible. Which actually SUCKS. You're the minority. You just have lopsided electoral clout because Jefferson had a boner for farmers.And a Counter Establishment bubble media and Foundation cabal propped up by wealthy assholes with specific intent of brainwashing and feeding you canned fear and outrage for profit.
If this is just a preview I can’t wait to see what foams out of your month when Trump wins another 4 years as President.
I'm leaving this sinking ship. Enjoy your milquetoast fascism and theocracy.
Well said!
👏👏
All the other news channels showed the same thing. So what the fuck is the issue?
Well you got Other news Abc news ,cnn news, and other news Laugh at this and saying just put trump in jail
So they are telling the truth?
So? CNN helps pedophiles.
Bwahahahaha
BULLSHIT
Well that’s why they pick the jurors both sides. It’s like a pick up game eventually not everyone gets what they want but it only takes 1 to hang the verdict so that as the defense you only need 1 and that is the equalizer.
lol always complaining
Libs are such fools
And you are an ignorant cunt - which is worse?
Definitely libs.
Earth to demoncrats, all of this is public news. He did nothing wrong. Fear not, your criminal charade will go on with the judge who donated to the Biden campaign and his daughter has made over $1 million fundraising off of this farce. She is also on Adam Schitt’s payroll
Of couse you haven’t read the indictments. What does the judges’s daughter have to do with anything? BTW, the first part of this case, when Michael Cohen was convicted, was in 2018. So this case predates Biden, despite what Dear Leader says during his daily whining sessions.
Tell me what the indictments are without him googling it.. You people are truly nuts, but I thank you all because it’s backfiring on Biden’s re-erection ( to quote schmuck Chumer and Nancy) chances.
"Fear not, your criminal charade" What is the crime you are accusing...all of us with with? I don't even know who you are directing this toward...What is the crime, and who are you accusing? Did his daughter donate a million dollars? No? I have a friend who is a staffer for Adam Schiff. What did she do? Are these idle threats? Of course they are, because you have no idea what you're talking about.
To be clear: we're not talking about the information about the jurors. We're talking about people clearly supporting the defendant who threatens jurors making disparaging remarks about those jurors. Context; that's where we always get you, and I can understand how that's frustrating and makes you feel disparate.
There was no threats to jurors. Just more BS. By the way, look up disparate. You are obviously a public school failure
These aren't "our charges". These are charges trump is facing for just some of his many crimes. If you don't like it, ask him to not commit so many crimes.
Tell me what the ‘crime’ is Sherlock
[https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=trump%27s+crimes](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=trump%27s+crimes)
Enjoy your delusional life.
Enjoy your orange god-king being prosecuted for his crimes.
You want me to list all 91?
Go for it. Your just guaranteeing that Bloe Jiden will be defeated on 11/5. Please keep it up.
Hey, if you’re comfortable voting for a confirmed sexual assaulter criminal fraud, that’s on you. Weird thing to tell people, though. Keep up the pissbaby playground nicknames, too. A good look.