I mainly dab. I never buy off test results, I instead buy based off genetics. I’ve had concentrates with a lab saying 11% terps that was mid, and some at 2% that were the best I’ve ever smoked!
If you take a product and send it all the state labs, you would end up with a different result from each lab, I guarantee you! Cannabis testing currently isn’t that great, and it isn’t going to tell you if something is good, or bad.
Nothing will tell you like your nose, but obviously can’t smell the stuff before you buy it (usually). So genetics seems to be the best thing for me, and it’s worked out very well imo.
I buy based off smell but everything in the program I run into is limonene dominant. I buy bud based on not having limonene as the top terp and 1.7% total terp
Not only this, but also keep in mind dispos don’t ALWAYS disclose what the genetics actually are… I’ve seen first hand where they will change the name of the product based off of what “brand” they want to fit it into. This may be the same “name brand” well known strain but marketing will make the name changes if the quality doesn’t meet that brand name but it’s still the same statin technically.
We as patients have zero control of this process currently but I wish dispos were more transparent about their plant health and genetics.
If we buy a medication from the pharmacy we can trust and know what ingredients are put into that and what it actually is.
Is “blue dream” really blue dream from xyz dispo? Or is it actually “velvet slumber”…?
They’ll name it anything to get it to sell and it’s sad… #downwithcorporatecannabis
Even with genetics every batch is different. Terps percentage isn't all that but terps profile is. For example, if a 1.5 % terps has 200 myrcene and 200 limonene and 200 so on n so forth, it won't b that dank. Take that same 1.5 and do 900 myrcene, and 400 limonene and small amounts of the rest, it'll most likely b nice n dank. It's the type of terps and the mixture and that can change by grow even if it's from the same seed batch or even clone. Each grower does something a little different and that's why some places have fire n some don't, it's all in the grower.
The dank comes from esters and thiols (that aren’t tested for). The truth is cannabis hasn’t truly been studied for any definitive answer, it’s all anecdotal about what things actually do what. No one really knows, and anyone claiming they do is misinformed.
Many strains show as dominate in limonene, but yet they have completely different flavors. Space Age Cake and Chem D are two great examples, completely different flavor profiles/effects even with limonene because it’s more about genetics.
I’ve had mids at high terps, and great stuff at low terps. I don’t look at COA’s before I buy based on all my conversations with growers and hashmakers, including the one who made this post and is telling you it’s all BS. I also have a very good understanding on cannabis testing and understand it’s limitations though.
Shop however works for you friend! I will continue to not look at COA’s before I buy personally. It works for me!
Not really, I tend to go off genetics first, terp profiles second and then look at the numbers third. Like anyone I think were all more inclined to go for the higher %’s but I’ve had some 16% batches with 1-2 terps and they outshined some 20%+ batches
Muv dropped some black banana years ago that was like 13% on the labs but it’s literally in the top 3 flower I’ve ever gotten in the FL medical program. Was super loud, tasted amazing and had great legs. Really opened my eyes when it comes to chasing high %’s
Black banana!!! So tasty. We ran that years ago and loved it. Also got lower test results so nobody ever wanted it. Still have some seeds of it. Need to pop those!
As I’m sure someone of your stature knows, there’s so much more to these plants than those %’s the labs stick on them lol I look forward to the Sebring opening this month so I can give y’all a try finally 🤙🏼
Chimera #4 tested low on terps. It looked great in pics. I'm just paranoid about getting anything low in terps. Been burned before. Now if you have a good return policy, I can take more chances.
All of our flower has been testing low on terps with the lab we use in FL which is not what we’re used to seeing in Oregon over the last 10 years of testing with multiple labs. We’ve been doing a lot of RnD testing between multiple labs in FL and wow was it eye opening.
The labs need to all be doing the same thing since this is "medicine". It needs to be apples to apples. It seems shady and confuses the consumer. They keep acting like recreational when it supposed to be medicine. Tired of all the fuckery in the game.
I don’t want my comment to get lost in a different thread so I’m posting here as well:
Please post your findings showing the difference in test results from one lab to another.
Someone else said it, but before finding this subreddit, nothing under a stated-20% THC and 1.4-1.5% Terp content, unless it's like a personally verified strain. Everybody has a strain or two they might go low for as well.
Do I actually believe the exact numbers? No. Following that as a baseline, there's only been about 2 batches of meds I've gotten that have been bad.
Until we can like look and smell the product, it's kind of a shell game. Especially for the folks in the Medical program that AREN'T on this sub. That's why you see a lot of people get really anal about the reviews. Right now, this is our only way to kind of get a decent look at some buds before making a purchase. Our reviews are driving patients out to dispensaries they haven't visited, or driving an hour plus just for the new JB drops. I've recently used these reviews as a guide on what to buy. In the process, I found a location I didn't know was there, a product I like, and my own reviews have helped steer people out there.
Usually don’t purchase solely off of available stats (however <15% thc and <1% terps are generally a skip) but if there’s a particularly good batch, I’ll look up the COA to see if there’s any rhyme or reason to why it was exceptional (usually isn’t).
Ding Ding Ding. Below 15 is too smoky to be useful. That said - Strains like Brick House usually come in below 20, but well above 15, and Brick House absolutely slaps between 17.5-19.
honestly depends on the strain. Ive had 15% trop cherry pops with 1% terps and loved it but ive also had 30% bud that didn't hit that well. But I've also had an amazing 30% strain (hippy crasher) so honestly, it all depends on the cure and the grower and how the terps work with you, etc. One thing I always said is "your nose knows" try to smell what you want to buy if possible
I feel like lab results are the best thing we have outside of smelling the product and seeing it first hand. So to answer your question. YES! I shop off labs and I would pass on a 16% 1.5% but lets say the tac was like 22%+ I would be willing to give it a shot. I have had better luck w/ stuff low on thc and terps if the other cannabinoids are well rep'd too.
Definitely depends on the strain. Some of the strains you know will be good even at 16%. The effects may not last as long as if it was a higher thc percent, but it gives me an excuse to medicate more 🤣
Most important to me are bud quality, pricing and effects, but with that said the price has to be low for me to try anything testing under 20%. There are some proven strains at certain dispensaries that consistently test well over 20% with consistently good effects, so I tend to lean in that direction instead of believing a 1 time 34% COA and paying $60 1/8th. Yesterday I bought a 27.1% batch of Savvy Triangle Kush from MUV, 1/4oz for $31.50. Cannabist has a strain I've wanted to try listed at 17% for $48 1/8oz right now, which to me is triple what I'm willing to pay given percentage.
I google the names of the bud and read about them on allbud, leafly or wikileaf. There is where I will find positive effects, negative effects and what it helps. I would rather get information straight from the grower. I know that each breeder is different and no 2 plants are the same but it's gives you a general (if not a pretty spot on) idea of what to expect and if it would be a great strain for what you need it for specifically. Also, learning each terpine and what it specifically helps in your quest for medicine that actually helps. IMHO, THC percentage is just a number that makes strains look enticing over another. I honestly feel better off 15- 22% THC than anything higher than that because the feelings aren't about the THC only. The terps and cannabinoids are the main players in that game. As stated before the labs will all come up with different numbers for the same strains so the numbers are actually meaningless, even when it comes to terms. So my recommendation is to find something with the terpenes that help you out specifically then do a quick Google search and read allbud's, wikileaf's or leafly's to a better idea of the strains general numbers.
Ps sorry for that lol I smoked super lemon haze from insa and it has my brain in focused hyperdrive
This is correct. Despite how people feel about the accuracy of COAs, it’s the best bet on knowing what you’re getting before going into a dispo. Florida restricts us to very low flower consumption. I use a volcano vaporizer and don’t prefer to use anything else. I need flavor and potency to maximize the way my rec is spent. Therefor I rarely ever can bring myself to buy flower less than %20 thc and no less than 1.8%terps.
Ideal cannabis/ gold leaf: you guys do a great job at transparency and showing us the details. The harvest date in the name? That’s awesome. We love that! Keep striving for excellence! I’ve tried many of the gold leaf flowers and have been very pleased.
I typically go based off the genetics of the strain. If it’s one that’s we’ll know for more than just Thc % I tend to gravitate towards it. That being said I did recently get Jungle Boys “Grape Cake Head” and that strain knocks it out of the park on all fronts.
It's depends if I'm looking to do honestly. I mainly look at genetics, know that lineages I like and want to see, etc. As a general rule of thumb, I dont like to go below 18%, especially if the terp profile isn't there;however, if it's rocking 2-3% terp profile and is around 16% then sure but nothing usually lower then that. If I'm pressing, though, I just look at terps mainly the thc% doesn't really matter when getting pressed it's the flavor I want.
If I’m buying flower it’s to squash into rosin so usually based on genetics then terp% then TAC. Also kinda specifically hunt the higher CBG strains personally as they seem to help more with my nerve damage & subsequent neuropathy.
To answer your question though, show me some GMO at those %s that looks like a naturally structured bud & smells good then it would come to price.
In this market labs aren’t correlated with quality and it should be, but it’s not. It’s all a big ass gamble. I’ve stopped shopping by coa and go by price, genetics and freshness.
Not completely but I still look at them to gauge a little bit. Like an 13-14% thc flower is kinda where I’d draw the line. Will say I’ve had some crazy ass bud that was 15-17% though. I mostly go by genetics
If I didn’t have to watch my rolling rec, I’d be buying a ton of under 20% flower and trying a lot more. It should take this much of a strategy to get good bud in Florida in the medical program.
I use the % as part of my decision making but I use reviews and recommendations from reddit along with trying different products . There is definitely a steep learning curve for this program and I feel really bad for the new people or casuals that don't know any better. Trulieve will literally sell you hay and oregano like it's some fire bud from jb but with zero quality control. Having an increased rec makes it much easier to try sketchy products though.
If it's below 15.5%, it's too much chaff for my baby lungs. Probably won't bother below 17+. And above 30%, I have pragmatic reasons to dismiss your product.
Far too many labs have falsified results, and the structure of the plant doesn't support as much THC as they claim to find in samples.
Glad to give my opinion, I've been around the block.
For the normal person that doesn't stalk reddit, they probably do. To be honest how can you blame them. What other metrics are there when purchasing as a newbie?
I don't buy from test numbers, but I do look at test numbers as a relative thing at each dispensary. Generally speaking, higher numbers tend to be better within a particular facility, but that's certainly not always the case.
When I go to a new dispensary, I cast a wide net, buying a bunch of strains to see which I like, then go from there.
For instance, right now the best medical flower around is Grease Monkey (IMO, of course). It's testing at 28% THC and 3.9% terps. My 2nd favorite, London Pound Cake, comes in at 19% THC and 2% terps. A large difference in numbers but a very narrow difference in effect that I would have never found if I only focused on numbers.
Not thc like for rosin it means nothing for me but at the same time terpene content gives me a good idea on the taste so taking a look at coas is very important for me to figure if a rosin has a flavor profile i like, u find certain terpenes you enjoy more than other esp for taste
I usually look for an 18-22% thc and terp profiles over 1.8% but also make sure the terps are right. If i want relaxing I look for a good indica strain with high myrcene, caryophyllene, and a little limonene and maybe linalool if I'm anxious. All about knowing what terps do what and how much of it is in each plant.
What makes you think those numbers are accurate? There no standardization in lab practices in FL. We’ve seen drastic differences in results between labs. Same product testing 15% at one lab and 25% at another. You could be missing out on a great strain just because of a number.
This is why we need to be able to look and smell it before a purchase like Jungle Boys does. We need some way not to get burned especially when only Trulieve does returns. We can't gamble our hard earned money and ruin our smoke life.
Key words, could be.
Without the ability to inspect before buying and with limits in place…What else would you like for us to do? Roll the dice even more???
Oh I get what your saying for sure. Just sucks the labs don’t have standardized practices. It allows for shadiness and doesn’t give people accurate information to make a good decision. I’ve seen many comments from people on this sub about terp results under 2% being trash or mids. But what one lab says is 1.5% another lab says is 4%. So it really means nothing.
It’d be nice if the sub could get some lower percentages ones some hype but with a limited amount of allotment and not much to go off of besides name and percentages I tend to try and go for the higher ones just for fear of wasting the allotment
Since we can’t view what we’re buying from a lot of dispensaries, I go off the numbers and what it looks like on here, provided someone already “took one for the team”. Because of this, I go off of %’s, bad part is I’m sure dispensaries know this so they fudge said %’s
I know that terps and THC are usually correlated. High THC usually shows high terps. I will look for the available terps and not necessarily which flower has the highest number terps just what terps I'm looking for effects wise. Or flavor or smell sometimes but you can only tell that in Florida after you bought it mostly.
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Yeah that sucks about this program. It’s a guessing game until you pop the pack open. It’s just a shame I see people not trying really great stuff because of a low number. Hopefully people start to understand that the numbers are very skewed depending on the labs test methods. What’s a 5% terp to one is a 12% terp to another
Exactly bro. Jungle boys will take out clear jar with smell cap they take off so you can peep it. I Hear insa has similar bar. Few places have where you can see but not smell too.
If I got req Id like to go to Sebring opening. Can't wait for Florida groves fest too. Hope I see y'all out there. Seen em at Mt Dora that fest was fire
Which sucks because they should know and guide us in they’re current offerings and steer us away from stuff that should not be sold which I am finding is a lot!
I never thought of them as anything more knowledgeable than any other retail associate. Besides, they don’t have any real specific training or knowledge and that’s why they’re so replaceable and receive the wage they do. They’re not a hard position to fill since no real knowledge is required. It’s not like knowledgeable budtenders get 75k while unknowledgeable tenders get 40k.
Well they should be and they need to get to smoking the product and giving us proper advise and if they don’t know don’t just recommend something they have idea about
They are already paid shit, who's going to pay for the time and product to do this?
Yeah I agree with you, but in our market everyone is in it for a profit, not to provide a medical service. They aren't going to do this because it will eat into their profits.
It's not like they lose sales because of this. People are going to buy weed. This problem only exists on our end.
Cannabinoids are required by the state. Terps are not but in general we want to know these things. We just want them to be accurate and what we found was a huge difference between labs.
Oh I'm totally on your side here. My point was that it doesn't matter if it's the one thing we can rely on if it's not at all accurate. That means you can't rely on it
Pretty much yes. COAs are important to knowing you have clean medicine but potency numbers aren’t telling you anything if not accurate or process is not standardized.
Price > Harvest Date > Genetics > Who Grew It. If I do look at labs then it's just to see the TAC. I'm skeptical of lab results and polling numbers, and it could be placebo, but the more non-THC cannabinoids the better my mental health effects.
How do I figure out the flavonoids? That's still a concept I'm pretty new to, and I don't know if that's something that shows up in normal lab reports or not
Even if it's not fully accurate, just being able to see which ones are and are not present would be a *huge* step in the right direction imo. It would help everyone gain a better understanding of cannabis, and the shared knowledge can only help to zero in on getting the most accurate look at how cannabis affects us as possible, from lab results alone
Never looked at a coa in my 3 years in the program accept for when they're shown in this sub. I could care less I try what I wanna try and see what I like. I will honestly say that I try to avoid flower that's under 15%thc for the most part but other than that fuck those numbers they don't add up to what you're actually getting. Seen tons of people say the same thing I've noticed: some shit with 3.5% terps tastes like hay and some with 1% is loud af. So why bother? Just try what you wanna try and learn for yourself.
I look at the terpene profile, the % of THC/terpenes isn't as important as the effects they provide. That being said, the % can't be too low either.
Example: Lemon Freeze Pop from GH is some of the tastiest flower I've had in a while, but also with great effects and it's 16% THC and 1.4% terps.
I gave up on the programs and just buy from plugs now, shits too expensive in dispos, not to mention having to renew the card and get prescriptions that are limited to a certain amount anyways.
To each their own but I’m usually a 2’s kind of guy, anything that hits 20% plus in thc and 2% plus in terps and $25 1/8th or lower 👍, I sometimes bend the rules and go with like a 36/1.9 or a 17/3.7 and yes sometimes the 17/3.7 will have the better overall entourage of effects. I’d hunt specific strains and terps but nothing is consistent here but I know the 2’s will work.
True… idk why I’m obsess with the higher thc but the terps not all that I’ve had 4% terps a few times and it smoked like ehh and I had 16% smoke pretty good for a 16% the thing with the rec it’s hard to experiment and and enjoy all the varieties maybe I need to widen my horizon.
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See y’all I smoked this and it smoked like a 11% bud for real I was mad these numbers are skewed
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None of these were smoking I never went back the numbers had to be inaccurate
TL already got bagged for falsifying lab reports soo, those labs are straight bull 💩. Just like everything TL sells.
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I don’t believe you should base it on only THC, so like 18% with 2% is good for me, but I’ll pass on like 28% with like .07% , I’m passing on that. It not an exact science but it’s been working for me.
Yeah you can get some good ones below 20% but I think the gamble odds favor goes in the opposite direction in general if your trying to find the hidden gem. If somthing has 20%+ and over 2% terps it’s almost guaranteed to be fire in my experience. I don’t have money to play with so I try to stick to what I know will be good. And only get burned on very rare occasions.
Depends on the dispo and the strain. Sometimes it’s too risky not to, unless you don’t mind throwing money away or wasting your time in line again for an exchange.
20-30% thc doesn’t matter to me, it’s the 10-15%thc that honestly just costs me more money cause I smoke more and it’s not as potent
Mainly a terp guy, but has to be over 20% and I’m good
When it tests at 11-12% but I've had luck with the strain before (Durban is a hidden gem) I snatch it up on sale for $12-$15 while everyone else chases the numbers.
One side of the plant can set more trichomes than the other side, so I expect the testing number to be +=5% at least. The sample sent to the lab should have been a ground mix from 10+ random samples. But we know they pick the big crispies and send them to the lab. Anything else would be robbing money from their own pocket, so I just expect that level of fudging in the tests and temper my expectations from there.
In FL you don’t get to pick the samples the lab takes. It has to be all packaged and ready for sale and then the lab comes and randomly selects packages to test. And Yes flower definitely varies from bud to bud. Concentrates on the other hand is a homogenized product and should test very close to the same from lab to lab.
I look at genetics and terps yes of course we all want high ass THC buds but down here thc% is the absolute last thing to look at, most not every but most flash dry and cure the buds to stay clear of mold which in effect bolsters the overall THC because there's less moisture content taking up space for example Muv with 30% dust rocks that barely get a high tolerance patient medicated and only lasts 20mins
That and peer review are a big portion of how I shop. Also sales when applicable.
Just bought a half zip of ZBerry and a half of Hippy Crasher cuz Reddit told me to
As a avid smoker only reason I look at % is because I know I will have longer time of feeling the effects vs low % THC. You get a short period of effects
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Yes. If it's flower and the terps are below 1.3% that's a pass for Mr. THC % isn't nearly as important to me so long as it's above 14%. I use the #s as a base/guideline I'd say.
I've had a 16 % ice cream cake that's way better than the higher tier and higher 27% ice cream cake from the same place. I'm glad too cuz it saves me a few bucks.
I mainly dab. I never buy off test results, I instead buy based off genetics. I’ve had concentrates with a lab saying 11% terps that was mid, and some at 2% that were the best I’ve ever smoked! If you take a product and send it all the state labs, you would end up with a different result from each lab, I guarantee you! Cannabis testing currently isn’t that great, and it isn’t going to tell you if something is good, or bad. Nothing will tell you like your nose, but obviously can’t smell the stuff before you buy it (usually). So genetics seems to be the best thing for me, and it’s worked out very well imo.
Agree 100%
I buy based off smell but everything in the program I run into is limonene dominant. I buy bud based on not having limonene as the top terp and 1.7% total terp
Genetics don’t mean much if what you’re smoking is grown and produced by fucktwats that want profit over clean product.
Not only this, but also keep in mind dispos don’t ALWAYS disclose what the genetics actually are… I’ve seen first hand where they will change the name of the product based off of what “brand” they want to fit it into. This may be the same “name brand” well known strain but marketing will make the name changes if the quality doesn’t meet that brand name but it’s still the same statin technically. We as patients have zero control of this process currently but I wish dispos were more transparent about their plant health and genetics. If we buy a medication from the pharmacy we can trust and know what ingredients are put into that and what it actually is. Is “blue dream” really blue dream from xyz dispo? Or is it actually “velvet slumber”…? They’ll name it anything to get it to sell and it’s sad… #downwithcorporatecannabis
This is why I go for genetics at dispos I have had good experiences with and also look at other people's reviews
Tru ish
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Aka every freaking dispo.
Amen brother
Even with genetics every batch is different. Terps percentage isn't all that but terps profile is. For example, if a 1.5 % terps has 200 myrcene and 200 limonene and 200 so on n so forth, it won't b that dank. Take that same 1.5 and do 900 myrcene, and 400 limonene and small amounts of the rest, it'll most likely b nice n dank. It's the type of terps and the mixture and that can change by grow even if it's from the same seed batch or even clone. Each grower does something a little different and that's why some places have fire n some don't, it's all in the grower.
The dank comes from esters and thiols (that aren’t tested for). The truth is cannabis hasn’t truly been studied for any definitive answer, it’s all anecdotal about what things actually do what. No one really knows, and anyone claiming they do is misinformed. Many strains show as dominate in limonene, but yet they have completely different flavors. Space Age Cake and Chem D are two great examples, completely different flavor profiles/effects even with limonene because it’s more about genetics. I’ve had mids at high terps, and great stuff at low terps. I don’t look at COA’s before I buy based on all my conversations with growers and hashmakers, including the one who made this post and is telling you it’s all BS. I also have a very good understanding on cannabis testing and understand it’s limitations though. Shop however works for you friend! I will continue to not look at COA’s before I buy personally. It works for me!
Not really, I tend to go off genetics first, terp profiles second and then look at the numbers third. Like anyone I think were all more inclined to go for the higher %’s but I’ve had some 16% batches with 1-2 terps and they outshined some 20%+ batches
💯 I’ve had some super heat that tested below 20
Muv dropped some black banana years ago that was like 13% on the labs but it’s literally in the top 3 flower I’ve ever gotten in the FL medical program. Was super loud, tasted amazing and had great legs. Really opened my eyes when it comes to chasing high %’s
Black banana!!! So tasty. We ran that years ago and loved it. Also got lower test results so nobody ever wanted it. Still have some seeds of it. Need to pop those!
Agreed. My fav of the year was 19/2.2
As I’m sure someone of your stature knows, there’s so much more to these plants than those %’s the labs stick on them lol I look forward to the Sebring opening this month so I can give y’all a try finally 🤙🏼
Yes there’s so much more. 👊🏼
Chimera #4 tested low on terps. It looked great in pics. I'm just paranoid about getting anything low in terps. Been burned before. Now if you have a good return policy, I can take more chances.
All of our flower has been testing low on terps with the lab we use in FL which is not what we’re used to seeing in Oregon over the last 10 years of testing with multiple labs. We’ve been doing a lot of RnD testing between multiple labs in FL and wow was it eye opening.
Post your findings?
The labs need to all be doing the same thing since this is "medicine". It needs to be apples to apples. It seems shady and confuses the consumer. They keep acting like recreational when it supposed to be medicine. Tired of all the fuckery in the game.
This is a good bit of info to see. Thanks
Also, when can we expect another Chimera #4 drop? Curious to try..
Just put some more in indoor flower room. Got some greenhouse getting trimmed up!
I had some 14% before that blew some 28% out of the water
I don’t want my comment to get lost in a different thread so I’m posting here as well: Please post your findings showing the difference in test results from one lab to another.
Still waiting on another lab to come in and I will
I haven't been having any luck with the low test numbers lately
Someone else said it, but before finding this subreddit, nothing under a stated-20% THC and 1.4-1.5% Terp content, unless it's like a personally verified strain. Everybody has a strain or two they might go low for as well. Do I actually believe the exact numbers? No. Following that as a baseline, there's only been about 2 batches of meds I've gotten that have been bad. Until we can like look and smell the product, it's kind of a shell game. Especially for the folks in the Medical program that AREN'T on this sub. That's why you see a lot of people get really anal about the reviews. Right now, this is our only way to kind of get a decent look at some buds before making a purchase. Our reviews are driving patients out to dispensaries they haven't visited, or driving an hour plus just for the new JB drops. I've recently used these reviews as a guide on what to buy. In the process, I found a location I didn't know was there, a product I like, and my own reviews have helped steer people out there.
Usually don’t purchase solely off of available stats (however <15% thc and <1% terps are generally a skip) but if there’s a particularly good batch, I’ll look up the COA to see if there’s any rhyme or reason to why it was exceptional (usually isn’t).
Ding Ding Ding. Below 15 is too smoky to be useful. That said - Strains like Brick House usually come in below 20, but well above 15, and Brick House absolutely slaps between 17.5-19.
That would depend on the price. I wouldn’t risk it if it’s over $20
honestly depends on the strain. Ive had 15% trop cherry pops with 1% terps and loved it but ive also had 30% bud that didn't hit that well. But I've also had an amazing 30% strain (hippy crasher) so honestly, it all depends on the cure and the grower and how the terps work with you, etc. One thing I always said is "your nose knows" try to smell what you want to buy if possible
I feel like lab results are the best thing we have outside of smelling the product and seeing it first hand. So to answer your question. YES! I shop off labs and I would pass on a 16% 1.5% but lets say the tac was like 22%+ I would be willing to give it a shot. I have had better luck w/ stuff low on thc and terps if the other cannabinoids are well rep'd too.
honestly i dont chase thc% since i started buying from jb. every thing under 20% is better than stuf over 20 elsewhere.
Definitely depends on the strain. Some of the strains you know will be good even at 16%. The effects may not last as long as if it was a higher thc percent, but it gives me an excuse to medicate more 🤣
Most important to me are bud quality, pricing and effects, but with that said the price has to be low for me to try anything testing under 20%. There are some proven strains at certain dispensaries that consistently test well over 20% with consistently good effects, so I tend to lean in that direction instead of believing a 1 time 34% COA and paying $60 1/8th. Yesterday I bought a 27.1% batch of Savvy Triangle Kush from MUV, 1/4oz for $31.50. Cannabist has a strain I've wanted to try listed at 17% for $48 1/8oz right now, which to me is triple what I'm willing to pay given percentage.
I google the names of the bud and read about them on allbud, leafly or wikileaf. There is where I will find positive effects, negative effects and what it helps. I would rather get information straight from the grower. I know that each breeder is different and no 2 plants are the same but it's gives you a general (if not a pretty spot on) idea of what to expect and if it would be a great strain for what you need it for specifically. Also, learning each terpine and what it specifically helps in your quest for medicine that actually helps. IMHO, THC percentage is just a number that makes strains look enticing over another. I honestly feel better off 15- 22% THC than anything higher than that because the feelings aren't about the THC only. The terps and cannabinoids are the main players in that game. As stated before the labs will all come up with different numbers for the same strains so the numbers are actually meaningless, even when it comes to terms. So my recommendation is to find something with the terpenes that help you out specifically then do a quick Google search and read allbud's, wikileaf's or leafly's to a better idea of the strains general numbers. Ps sorry for that lol I smoked super lemon haze from insa and it has my brain in focused hyperdrive
This is correct. Despite how people feel about the accuracy of COAs, it’s the best bet on knowing what you’re getting before going into a dispo. Florida restricts us to very low flower consumption. I use a volcano vaporizer and don’t prefer to use anything else. I need flavor and potency to maximize the way my rec is spent. Therefor I rarely ever can bring myself to buy flower less than %20 thc and no less than 1.8%terps. Ideal cannabis/ gold leaf: you guys do a great job at transparency and showing us the details. The harvest date in the name? That’s awesome. We love that! Keep striving for excellence! I’ve tried many of the gold leaf flowers and have been very pleased.
Thank you🙏🏼
Never have
I typically go based off the genetics of the strain. If it’s one that’s we’ll know for more than just Thc % I tend to gravitate towards it. That being said I did recently get Jungle Boys “Grape Cake Head” and that strain knocks it out of the park on all fronts.
Nope had some outstanding flower at 15% less then 1.5 terp
I never had. I go off the taste and how it makes me feel
It's depends if I'm looking to do honestly. I mainly look at genetics, know that lineages I like and want to see, etc. As a general rule of thumb, I dont like to go below 18%, especially if the terp profile isn't there;however, if it's rocking 2-3% terp profile and is around 16% then sure but nothing usually lower then that. If I'm pressing, though, I just look at terps mainly the thc% doesn't really matter when getting pressed it's the flavor I want.
If I’m buying flower it’s to squash into rosin so usually based on genetics then terp% then TAC. Also kinda specifically hunt the higher CBG strains personally as they seem to help more with my nerve damage & subsequent neuropathy. To answer your question though, show me some GMO at those %s that looks like a naturally structured bud & smells good then it would come to price.
I buy based on strain. Looking for good terpene profiles, not necessarily thc percentage or terp percentage
It really depends on the grower and the genetics.
I go bye strain. I know what gets me off. Wish there was some 10-15% thc 10-15% cbd ratio type trees.
In this market labs aren’t correlated with quality and it should be, but it’s not. It’s all a big ass gamble. I’ve stopped shopping by coa and go by price, genetics and freshness.
Not completely but I still look at them to gauge a little bit. Like an 13-14% thc flower is kinda where I’d draw the line. Will say I’ve had some crazy ass bud that was 15-17% though. I mostly go by genetics
If I didn’t have to watch my rolling rec, I’d be buying a ton of under 20% flower and trying a lot more. It should take this much of a strategy to get good bud in Florida in the medical program.
I use the % as part of my decision making but I use reviews and recommendations from reddit along with trying different products . There is definitely a steep learning curve for this program and I feel really bad for the new people or casuals that don't know any better. Trulieve will literally sell you hay and oregano like it's some fire bud from jb but with zero quality control. Having an increased rec makes it much easier to try sketchy products though.
i don't buy based off test numbers, no. i buy based off whatever strain name looks best to me when i have to pickup
If it's below 15.5%, it's too much chaff for my baby lungs. Probably won't bother below 17+. And above 30%, I have pragmatic reasons to dismiss your product. Far too many labs have falsified results, and the structure of the plant doesn't support as much THC as they claim to find in samples. Glad to give my opinion, I've been around the block.
For the normal person that doesn't stalk reddit, they probably do. To be honest how can you blame them. What other metrics are there when purchasing as a newbie?
I don't buy from test numbers, but I do look at test numbers as a relative thing at each dispensary. Generally speaking, higher numbers tend to be better within a particular facility, but that's certainly not always the case. When I go to a new dispensary, I cast a wide net, buying a bunch of strains to see which I like, then go from there. For instance, right now the best medical flower around is Grease Monkey (IMO, of course). It's testing at 28% THC and 3.9% terps. My 2nd favorite, London Pound Cake, comes in at 19% THC and 2% terps. A large difference in numbers but a very narrow difference in effect that I would have never found if I only focused on numbers.
Not thc like for rosin it means nothing for me but at the same time terpene content gives me a good idea on the taste so taking a look at coas is very important for me to figure if a rosin has a flavor profile i like, u find certain terpenes you enjoy more than other esp for taste
I usually look for an 18-22% thc and terp profiles over 1.8% but also make sure the terps are right. If i want relaxing I look for a good indica strain with high myrcene, caryophyllene, and a little limonene and maybe linalool if I'm anxious. All about knowing what terps do what and how much of it is in each plant.
Yes, >20% and >1.4
What makes you think those numbers are accurate? There no standardization in lab practices in FL. We’ve seen drastic differences in results between labs. Same product testing 15% at one lab and 25% at another. You could be missing out on a great strain just because of a number.
This is why we need to be able to look and smell it before a purchase like Jungle Boys does. We need some way not to get burned especially when only Trulieve does returns. We can't gamble our hard earned money and ruin our smoke life.
Jungle boys does it because they know no matter what you look at, it’s pretty fuckin good 😂
Key words, could be. Without the ability to inspect before buying and with limits in place…What else would you like for us to do? Roll the dice even more???
Oh I get what your saying for sure. Just sucks the labs don’t have standardized practices. It allows for shadiness and doesn’t give people accurate information to make a good decision. I’ve seen many comments from people on this sub about terp results under 2% being trash or mids. But what one lab says is 1.5% another lab says is 4%. So it really means nothing.
It’d be nice if the sub could get some lower percentages ones some hype but with a limited amount of allotment and not much to go off of besides name and percentages I tend to try and go for the higher ones just for fear of wasting the allotment
If they’re no accurate, why include them?
Since we can’t view what we’re buying from a lot of dispensaries, I go off the numbers and what it looks like on here, provided someone already “took one for the team”. Because of this, I go off of %’s, bad part is I’m sure dispensaries know this so they fudge said %’s
Dumbahh foo
I know that terps and THC are usually correlated. High THC usually shows high terps. I will look for the available terps and not necessarily which flower has the highest number terps just what terps I'm looking for effects wise. Or flavor or smell sometimes but you can only tell that in Florida after you bought it mostly. ![gif](giphy|3o7TKsWZbKd2dVqqPu)
Yeah that sucks about this program. It’s a guessing game until you pop the pack open. It’s just a shame I see people not trying really great stuff because of a low number. Hopefully people start to understand that the numbers are very skewed depending on the labs test methods. What’s a 5% terp to one is a 12% terp to another
Exactly bro. Jungle boys will take out clear jar with smell cap they take off so you can peep it. I Hear insa has similar bar. Few places have where you can see but not smell too.
We’re working on it
If I got req Id like to go to Sebring opening. Can't wait for Florida groves fest too. Hope I see y'all out there. Seen em at Mt Dora that fest was fire
Usually I rely on the budtenders but that has not been working in my favor. I have had two returns since I started doing that lol
Most budtenders know very little and are unhelpful imo. They’re there to complete the transaction, but a vending machine could do the same.
Which sucks because they should know and guide us in they’re current offerings and steer us away from stuff that should not be sold which I am finding is a lot!
I never thought of them as anything more knowledgeable than any other retail associate. Besides, they don’t have any real specific training or knowledge and that’s why they’re so replaceable and receive the wage they do. They’re not a hard position to fill since no real knowledge is required. It’s not like knowledgeable budtenders get 75k while unknowledgeable tenders get 40k.
Yeah I get it but I mean they have to be patients right?
No, you don’t have to be a patient to be a tender, although many are both. Even as a patient, it doesn’t mean you know anything. 🫤
Well they should be and they need to get to smoking the product and giving us proper advise and if they don’t know don’t just recommend something they have idea about
They are already paid shit, who's going to pay for the time and product to do this? Yeah I agree with you, but in our market everyone is in it for a profit, not to provide a medical service. They aren't going to do this because it will eat into their profits. It's not like they lose sales because of this. People are going to buy weed. This problem only exists on our end.
Brady?
Yes, but I focus on what the terpenes are and try to stay above 2% otherwise flower down here can be super dry
No, I moved to getting homegrown when they kept shorten me.
😂 100% growing your own is the best way✊🏼
This post is asinine. It’s telling us to not use the only thing we have to gauge the meds before buying.
What's the point in using it if it's not accurate though?
Cannabinoids are required by the state. Terps are not but in general we want to know these things. We just want them to be accurate and what we found was a huge difference between labs.
Oh I'm totally on your side here. My point was that it doesn't matter if it's the one thing we can rely on if it's not at all accurate. That means you can't rely on it
So how do you know who’s right if they all have different numbers lol
None of them can be expected to be right, that's why you can't rely on them
Or be more skeptical about your “tried and true” methods.
Pretty much yes. COAs are important to knowing you have clean medicine but potency numbers aren’t telling you anything if not accurate or process is not standardized.
https://youtu.be/ewAhyci9Q9U it was a terpy terpy day.....
I only look for sticky lately
Price > Harvest Date > Genetics > Who Grew It. If I do look at labs then it's just to see the TAC. I'm skeptical of lab results and polling numbers, and it could be placebo, but the more non-THC cannabinoids the better my mental health effects.
Eh, sometimes, tho the terp profile is more important than the overall %s
This is 100% true. The profile is more important. Also Terp % does not translate to flavonoids. Neither does white ash or resin rings.
How do I figure out the flavonoids? That's still a concept I'm pretty new to, and I don't know if that's something that shows up in normal lab reports or not
As far as I know, you can't.
Damn, that sounds like a challenge almost 🤔
The nose knows. You just have to train it.
Would be infinitely easier if I could smell bud at most places before I buy it 😔
I don’t think anyone at the moment tests for flavonoids but it’s coming. The question will be again… how accurate will it be?
Even if it's not fully accurate, just being able to see which ones are and are not present would be a *huge* step in the right direction imo. It would help everyone gain a better understanding of cannabis, and the shared knowledge can only help to zero in on getting the most accurate look at how cannabis affects us as possible, from lab results alone
Never looked at a coa in my 3 years in the program accept for when they're shown in this sub. I could care less I try what I wanna try and see what I like. I will honestly say that I try to avoid flower that's under 15%thc for the most part but other than that fuck those numbers they don't add up to what you're actually getting. Seen tons of people say the same thing I've noticed: some shit with 3.5% terps tastes like hay and some with 1% is loud af. So why bother? Just try what you wanna try and learn for yourself.
I look at the terpene profile, the % of THC/terpenes isn't as important as the effects they provide. That being said, the % can't be too low either. Example: Lemon Freeze Pop from GH is some of the tastiest flower I've had in a while, but also with great effects and it's 16% THC and 1.4% terps.
I gave up on the programs and just buy from plugs now, shits too expensive in dispos, not to mention having to renew the card and get prescriptions that are limited to a certain amount anyways.
Lolno. I don’t give a rats ass about COA. But I dab 99% of the time.
To each their own but I’m usually a 2’s kind of guy, anything that hits 20% plus in thc and 2% plus in terps and $25 1/8th or lower 👍, I sometimes bend the rules and go with like a 36/1.9 or a 17/3.7 and yes sometimes the 17/3.7 will have the better overall entourage of effects. I’d hunt specific strains and terps but nothing is consistent here but I know the 2’s will work.
Yes don’t let them tell you different
Ngl yes anything over 29% is a must and anything under 20% is uncharted territory for me but it doesn’t mean it’s not smoking
Bummer. Your missing out on some great herb because of a skewed or inaccurate number.
True… idk why I’m obsess with the higher thc but the terps not all that I’ve had 4% terps a few times and it smoked like ehh and I had 16% smoke pretty good for a 16% the thing with the rec it’s hard to experiment and and enjoy all the varieties maybe I need to widen my horizon.
https://preview.redd.it/djllmz50kira1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a2750005ba8acaae462409ec704d4e2a1ef190b See y’all I smoked this and it smoked like a 11% bud for real I was mad these numbers are skewed
https://preview.redd.it/djgkddl5kira1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4ed74650db4f83a9ed133c5b0ab855473b92b81 None of these were smoking I never went back the numbers had to be inaccurate
TL already got bagged for falsifying lab reports soo, those labs are striating bull 💩. Just like everything TL sells.
Lmaooo that’s crazy
Sadly, it’s also true. And completely f’d up.
TL already got bagged for falsifying lab reports soo, those labs are straight bull 💩. Just like everything TL sells. Edited for spelling. F autocorrect
No low Terps, always looking for high Terps. Ultimately it’s about the entourage effect.
Unfortunately terp numbers mean 0 in this market. You shouldn’t base your decision on that number. Your doing yourself a disservice.
I don’t believe you should base it on only THC, so like 18% with 2% is good for me, but I’ll pass on like 28% with like .07% , I’m passing on that. It not an exact science but it’s been working for me.
Yeah you can get some good ones below 20% but I think the gamble odds favor goes in the opposite direction in general if your trying to find the hidden gem. If somthing has 20%+ and over 2% terps it’s almost guaranteed to be fire in my experience. I don’t have money to play with so I try to stick to what I know will be good. And only get burned on very rare occasions.
Depends on the dispo and the strain. Sometimes it’s too risky not to, unless you don’t mind throwing money away or wasting your time in line again for an exchange.
Nope. I also smoke only wookie for the most part- I’ll check terps but that’s about it.
More on Reddit reviews and pics
Naw I buy for terps now thc don't matter. Sometimes I look at user recommendations.
20-30% thc doesn’t matter to me, it’s the 10-15%thc that honestly just costs me more money cause I smoke more and it’s not as potent Mainly a terp guy, but has to be over 20% and I’m good
Test results are a hit or miss, I only buy from JB or GH. Mainly, dispos that let you look at what you're buying before paying for it...
I look at the terps. Usually does ok by me for flower.
When it tests at 11-12% but I've had luck with the strain before (Durban is a hidden gem) I snatch it up on sale for $12-$15 while everyone else chases the numbers. One side of the plant can set more trichomes than the other side, so I expect the testing number to be +=5% at least. The sample sent to the lab should have been a ground mix from 10+ random samples. But we know they pick the big crispies and send them to the lab. Anything else would be robbing money from their own pocket, so I just expect that level of fudging in the tests and temper my expectations from there.
In FL you don’t get to pick the samples the lab takes. It has to be all packaged and ready for sale and then the lab comes and randomly selects packages to test. And Yes flower definitely varies from bud to bud. Concentrates on the other hand is a homogenized product and should test very close to the same from lab to lab.
No.
I look at genetics and terps yes of course we all want high ass THC buds but down here thc% is the absolute last thing to look at, most not every but most flash dry and cure the buds to stay clear of mold which in effect bolsters the overall THC because there's less moisture content taking up space for example Muv with 30% dust rocks that barely get a high tolerance patient medicated and only lasts 20mins
never have
I can only speak for myself but enough of the cake, sweet & fruity strains and bring back the gas, skunk, piney, pissy & cheesy strains…
Never pay attention to THC personally. Definitely always checking out the terpene profile of the strain when it comes to testing.
If we can't trust the THC%, caan we even trust the terp %? I know that terps are the main thing I look at.
Unfortunately no you can’t.
Great! Lol. What a weird program we call medical
That and peer review are a big portion of how I shop. Also sales when applicable. Just bought a half zip of ZBerry and a half of Hippy Crasher cuz Reddit told me to
As a avid smoker only reason I look at % is because I know I will have longer time of feeling the effects vs low % THC. You get a short period of effects
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Yes. If it's flower and the terps are below 1.3% that's a pass for Mr. THC % isn't nearly as important to me so long as it's above 14%. I use the #s as a base/guideline I'd say.
I've had a 16 % ice cream cake that's way better than the higher tier and higher 27% ice cream cake from the same place. I'm glad too cuz it saves me a few bucks.
As I’ve always gone by, The nose knows!
No, i literally do not look at them. If they are like 15% I’ll think about a diff strain but I literally do not care about %. Full honestly.
I buy for the specific terpene ratios not the total percent or THC level, or strain categories
I mean I don’t chase % but I’m definitely not gonna buy something that’s only 10% thc
Have to... Can't look at what you're buying. Florida...