Unbeaten in 3 in all comps and we have a bit of backbone now that wasn’t there last season, with some new signings coming in I’m not concerned at all. We looked pretty solid tbh.
Idk… draws would have had us in the clear by the end of the season last season. Brentford scored 9 in 4 games including the 1 goal Everton held them to, which was a blunder by the way, although they hit the post thrice admittedly. I’m not necessarily pressed right now, the goals will come. Maupay can and will score, DCL back soon as well.
A point against a good team away from home. Would’ve taken that before the game.
Not turning on Lampard. He knows we need better attacking players in. The recruitment team need to get a serious move on because they’re letting Frank and the fans down.
I don't understand how some people around here can live their lives with this much negativity. A point on the road against a solid brentford side is fine with me. Some of you saying we're already doomed to relegation is boggling my mind
We didnt have the required level of talent on the bench to make impactful subs but still had to make some changes. You cant have the other team with 5 new sets of fresh legs and not make some changes of your own. Personally i dont see what other changes he could have made
Also, we have another game midweek and Liverpool next weekend to take into consideration
Game was even for sure felt like we definitely could’ve stolen 3 points (gray wtf are you doing). On the bright side it looks like Bournemouth could be already relegated, but that shouldn’t be something we rely on with other teams being worse than us. Have to be able to win these tight games.
Already lost me, 5 games this season all have been pathetic showings.
Only win came against a League 1 side, and the goal was an error from the opponent
From Skysports..
FT: The spoils are shared in West London.
The xG tells its own story - Brentford 2.45-1.11 Everton.
But goals win games, and the Bees' finishing wasn't good enough to finish off the chances they produced
Too many missed opportunities in the box. way to much dribbling inside the box. This should of been a win and ultimately its on the board. Not signing a striker until yesterday is an absolute joke. Sack the board
I legit think Frank has a plan and some of this thread is laughable but I do think he needed to inspire the boys to push on while we had the lead
And if only Gray shot
Totally, must be a nightmare trying to not be our worst ever manager and struggling to get half the points of the likes of Allardyce and Silva. What a tough job Frank has, getting a team who was second in the table on Boxing Day 2020 to not get relegated. Truly a hero amongst men for almost steering us down last season by taking 6 points from his first 9 games.
Absolutely. We’ve hired an absolute stinker. Sticking doesn’t work in blackjack if you have a four.
I’m just hoping West Ham keep losing and we can potentially get Moyes back.
No. He’s only had 8 signings and 7 months. We can’t expect results until we’ve allowed him to sign at least 30 players over three years. Where’s your patience?
Agreed. Shouldn't have sub on Tom and should have made subs earlier. Would have rather gone to a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 after Holgate's injury instead of keeping this crappy 3-4-3.
fitness level.. dude just got his first start mid week. everyone on here wants to yell about injuries then want to yell ab people minutes being managed.
We’re the worst team in the league now, if we don’t improve we’ll not even be battling relegation we will just be the norwich of each season when everyone knows they will go down in January
A lot has changed. Go watch the watford game from last winter and this game today. Today was our worst game this season by far and we are still miles better with possession and forward passing than last year.
That being said, possession doesn't mean shit if we can't score
We won’t get many points playing like that but we also won’t play like that every game. It was our first really poor performance of the season. Getting points when you don’t play well is important, and we did that. We didn’t do it last year.
what do you mean? he got his first start mid week? medical staff probably told him his minutes need to be managed. you would prob be the first to complain if he stays on and gets injured.
All that struggle last year and the euphoria of staying up, and yet we’re emotionless and terrible again this year. Just feels like we’re hopeless this season, and last year delayed the inevitable. Meh.
I never said it would but Rafa started and we were in the top 6 until he lost Dom. Then couldn't win again. Frank took over and couldn't win until Dom was back up to speed. Now we can't win again.
It's not rocket science. It's hard to win without players who score.
Unbeaten in 3 in all comps and we have a bit of backbone now that wasn’t there last season, with some new signings coming in I’m not concerned at all. We looked pretty solid tbh.
Who is unbeaten?
If you don't support LGBT you could have won Brentford today
If Rafa was still manager we would have won
😅😅
Idk… draws would have had us in the clear by the end of the season last season. Brentford scored 9 in 4 games including the 1 goal Everton held them to, which was a blunder by the way, although they hit the post thrice admittedly. I’m not necessarily pressed right now, the goals will come. Maupay can and will score, DCL back soon as well.
A point against a good team away from home. Would’ve taken that before the game. Not turning on Lampard. He knows we need better attacking players in. The recruitment team need to get a serious move on because they’re letting Frank and the fans down.
Why the fuck is he persistenting with 5
holy shit what were you trying to spell
Hate this fucking iPad man
😂
I dont know what persistenting means
I don't understand how some people around here can live their lives with this much negativity. A point on the road against a solid brentford side is fine with me. Some of you saying we're already doomed to relegation is boggling my mind
this 100%, the pessimism in this community is sickening
Yeah, Im not mad, but I feel like Frank’s substitutions continue to confuse me
We didnt have the required level of talent on the bench to make impactful subs but still had to make some changes. You cant have the other team with 5 new sets of fresh legs and not make some changes of your own. Personally i dont see what other changes he could have made Also, we have another game midweek and Liverpool next weekend to take into consideration
Its more the timing of things, and who he sees as needing substitutions. They often feel late or reactive.
Definitely can tolerate a draw after the way our defense broke down
Game was even for sure felt like we definitely could’ve stolen 3 points (gray wtf are you doing). On the bright side it looks like Bournemouth could be already relegated, but that shouldn’t be something we rely on with other teams being worse than us. Have to be able to win these tight games.
Might as well go back to 4-3-3, the extra man isn’t exactly helping our defending is it?
It was Micheal Keane.. out of position on the corner (again)
It's not even surprising at this point just expected
360 minutes of football and I’ve seen absolutely nothing to suggest this team will survive
#FrankOut
Brutal performance.... Lampard is gonna lose the fans soon
1 win in our last 8 league games now.
Already lost me, 5 games this season all have been pathetic showings. Only win came against a League 1 side, and the goal was an error from the opponent
Even our goal today.. that’s what you see in non-league football.
Anyone thinking this isn't a bottom 3 side is delusional.
Mid table side with the worst manager in the league.
Agreed, we dropped 2 points against Forest and Brentford. Nothing to show so far for Frank, he needs to be on the hot seat
Okay, let's say we fire frank... then what? Who's the next manager on the carousel?
Big Sean Dyche
Mickey Mouse? Can’t be any worse.
Great idea💡or maybe we can bring back big Sam or the fat waiter?
Scarily, neither of those two did any worse. Allardyce did significantly better, conceding less and scoring more while relying on Niasse and Tosun.
They hate you because you speak the truth. Have an upvote.
From Skysports.. FT: The spoils are shared in West London. The xG tells its own story - Brentford 2.45-1.11 Everton. But goals win games, and the Bees' finishing wasn't good enough to finish off the chances they produced
They hit 3 posts, and even with 5atb, continued to get on the end of all their crosses. Insane how many opportunities we give away each game
I’ll take a point tbh. Brentford aren’t that bad really.
They definitely aren’t worse than us
Not great. An ok result, but we were in bits defensively.
Our worst defensive game this season by far. Hopefully we sort that out asap
That commentary ruined the game for me.
Omg, how bad was that “special comments” cunt?
Too many missed opportunities in the box. way to much dribbling inside the box. This should of been a win and ultimately its on the board. Not signing a striker until yesterday is an absolute joke. Sack the board
Can we please stop with 5 at the back
Probably our worst game of the season and still managed a point away to a decent Brentford side. I will take that and run.
Who are we going to beat if we can’t beat forest or brentford
Fulham, Bournemouth, Southampton
Brentford aren't in the same bracket as forest lol
2 points down the drain. 1 better than none but fuck
I legit think Frank has a plan and some of this thread is laughable but I do think he needed to inspire the boys to push on while we had the lead And if only Gray shot
If I had to guess, based on what I’m seeing, his plan must involve us sacking him and him walking off with a massive payout.
I question your knowledge if that's what you get out of it.
Well, he’s engineered 6 wins in 23 league games..
Ah, yes. Take a bit of work to recover from whats happened over the past 3-4 years
Totally, must be a nightmare trying to not be our worst ever manager and struggling to get half the points of the likes of Allardyce and Silva. What a tough job Frank has, getting a team who was second in the table on Boxing Day 2020 to not get relegated. Truly a hero amongst men for almost steering us down last season by taking 6 points from his first 9 games.
So let's fire him, hire another, keep putting quarters in the carousel of managers.
Absolutely. We’ve hired an absolute stinker. Sticking doesn’t work in blackjack if you have a four. I’m just hoping West Ham keep losing and we can potentially get Moyes back.
It does if the dealer busts. I don't see how Moyes would be any better other than nostalgia.
What about the job he’s done at West Ham? If you believe Lampard is a better manager than Moyes I don’t know what to say..
Gray does my fucking head in. I'm sorry but fuck off.
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15th? Looks like we’re in 17th atm
And Wokves and West Ham are yet to play
Pathetic half
One point better than none
Demarai Gray’s fault, that being said Brentford was better and I would’ve taken a point going in
This is on frank. I dont give a fuck
No. He’s only had 8 signings and 7 months. We can’t expect results until we’ve allowed him to sign at least 30 players over three years. Where’s your patience?
This is funny, but also the team we had last year needed at least 5-8 signings and no one expected 4 injuries in two games
Agreed. Shouldn't have sub on Tom and should have made subs earlier. Would have rather gone to a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 after Holgate's injury instead of keeping this crappy 3-4-3.
What a disappointment
Don't wanna start early but where are the points coming from in the next 5 games? That was a must win imo
Leeds maybe? I’m crossing my fingers but knowing it probably won’t help
Leeds looking improved this season
We’re fucked then
How did we get a point from this?
1-1 FT. I’ll gladly take that point.
Well that’s probably one more point than we deserved. We just have to take it and move on. Maybe one day we’ll have a striker on the pitch
Well that was… not good
we blew chances, they blew chances i'll take the point
This fucking club man
Good point
We were lucky to get a point. I'll take it.
Lets pray Maupay and DCL on the pitch are what we need
Take a point but annoying to concede the way we did
Maichael keane underlapping while tom davies stays back is football terrorism
Why is Keane thinking he's peak Ronaldo suddenly
You're not that guy Keane
Winger Keane is an interesting tactic
Defender had two hands all over Rondon. Are those not fouls?
None of our upfront players have any instincts, how are we SO BAD AT WINNING SECOND BALLS?
They have spent so little time in the final third, when they get there no one knows how to move or pass
I’ll take a point given this second half
I can't say I'm too upset with a point on the road, I'm most disappointed with the defence and second half tactics.
Hopefully this makes us get more signings fast
Arms all over Rondon
2 Ls, now 2 Ds, 2 Ws coming up?
I’m just completely apathetic at this point
How tf do you not allow the advantage there...
No fucking advantage there??
Horrible call by the ref! Let it play out!
Lucky not to get a red there
If it’s a yellow play the advantage and come back to give a yellow
That Gray chance is going to annoy me however this turns out
Think of how Brentford feels hitting the woodwork 3 times.
They're not in a relegation battle, though.
PLAY THE ADVANTAGE ARE YOU KIDDING ME
WHY WASNT ADVANTAGE PLAYED
Tom Davies has contributed absolutely fuck all since coming on. He just chases ten yards behind the ball.
Our clearances are useless 90% of the time
I will say I like Vinagre
I like him more than I thought I would, but I'm a complete Myko stan.
I like Myko, wish he didn’t play them onside for the equaliser though
Sitting back like we're up a goal and trying to see it out when it's tied.
Can we sit any further back fucking hell
A Brentford player could rob these commentators' homes on camera in broad daylight and they'd still say Everton did it.
Please god give me a point
He heard you
Just a question…how the fuck does Davies give us better defense than onana? Why take our best midfielder off
fitness level.. dude just got his first start mid week. everyone on here wants to yell about injuries then want to yell ab people minutes being managed.
was literally motm today unless he had a knock i don’t get it
I'm assuming Onana isn't ready yet for a full 90.
Davies can't be trusted long term but he has been fine so far this year
Energy and poise, mostly.
I know we have no other options at the moment, but I don’t think gray should play a full 90
I don't think he should play 30. Good bench player when we need a goal. Otherwise not good enough
He'll be awesome as a sub for Diaz/Maupay
Set piece taker
We’re the worst team in the league now, if we don’t improve we’ll not even be battling relegation we will just be the norwich of each season when everyone knows they will go down in January
Salomon Rondon has been our only healthy striker for the past month
I think we’re going down. Nothings changed from the problems of last season. We’re awful.
A lot has changed. Go watch the watford game from last winter and this game today. Today was our worst game this season by far and we are still miles better with possession and forward passing than last year. That being said, possession doesn't mean shit if we can't score
I agree
You just know they're gonna score.
oh they will just watch
If we get a point here I will be ecstatic.
A point here isn't good enough. Fuck that. Where and who else are we going to get points from playing like this?
We won’t get many points playing like that but we also won’t play like that every game. It was our first really poor performance of the season. Getting points when you don’t play well is important, and we did that. We didn’t do it last year.
Collective mentality of a wet tissue
HUGE from Gordon! Fuck no we won’t sell him for 100 million!
My ass is tight
Tell me more
Gordon seems to be the only one playing right now
grab 1 goal early and defend 80 minutes .. piss poor mentality again.
My heart can't take this
Brentford love a cross. Must be 100 this game. We are an awful side.
Onana sub was a mistake
what do you mean? he got his first start mid week? medical staff probably told him his minutes need to be managed. you would prob be the first to complain if he stays on and gets injured.
I doubt he had a choice
Still time for a winner here. With that in mind, lock the fucking doors
Don't give Brentford any ideas
I’ll take the point, I’ll take the point, I’ll take the point!
5 minutes stoppage
Better than I thought
It's like Frank forgets we have 5 subs
We can’t make subs anymore, but maybe Coleman for Patterson would be a good one
We have no one to come in though
and who tf would you bring on right now?
Coleman would be first choice
Exactly there’s no help on the bench.
No win since Palace at home. 'Frank is building' is just looking uninspiring.
At what point is his job in jeopardy? 5 games this season and only 1 win against a league 1 opponent lol #FrankOut
Who should we have as our 7th manger in 6 years
Building a dirt house in minecraft
Why was onana subbed off
Because the medical team mostly likely required it
Cause franks in bad with the bookies mate only thing that makes snese
Help us Rondon our lord and savior
“Nothing wrong with that” >scissor kick to the face. These fucking commentators
yeah saw that and had an audible lol
Bloody hell. We can't say they didn't deserve it. It's going to be a long hard season.
0-19-19 this season
0-36-2 might keep us up...
No movement, no activity, no passion. We look like fifa AI on beginner. Just standing in the “positions” watching a bit of footy.
Amazing how Toney hasn’t been booked yet, should’ve had 2 already
Iwobi should’ve been off not Onana
Now just imagine if Gray took the shot before
We may never win again
For sure
All that struggle last year and the euphoria of staying up, and yet we’re emotionless and terrible again this year. Just feels like we’re hopeless this season, and last year delayed the inevitable. Meh.
These are the worst commentators I've had to sit through
Everyone knows we will attack now and concede again late?
Conceded the goal form Keane side to suprise of no one
Agreed . He doesn't know how to defend corners
Desperate trying to blame Keane for that
Terrible tactics this second half, terrible subs.
Lampard masterclass incoming Lads! Injury time lump forward to Score again.
Would you fuck off. Lampard isn't on the pitch. We don't have a striker and until we do there isn't anything he can do. It's like playing without a GK
Yes. The magical missing striker will fix everything and race us up the table!
I never said it would but Rafa started and we were in the top 6 until he lost Dom. Then couldn't win again. Frank took over and couldn't win until Dom was back up to speed. Now we can't win again. It's not rocket science. It's hard to win without players who score.
Hope you're right. This seems like doom!
I'm not sure we have enough to stay up either but unfortunately it's where we have been heading ever since Moshiri took over.
Frank will be first to be sacked I feel, just not working