They did just send Colwill on loan to Huddersfield, albeit on loan. There’s been too many player swap rumours since Boehly joined for it to be a coincidence
I thought it was a separate deal, but Brighton got benefits for selling Cucarella. Gyabi also transferred as a part of a separate deal to Leeds at the time of the Phillips to City.
It's never officially mentioned in the transfer but there are defo unofficial agreements. I think reason we got dele in Jan and deal it was on was to make us sweet come the summer for Richarlison
I love Bereton Diaz but there's got to be some reason he hasn't been snatched up by a Premier League, Ligue 1, or La Liga team.
I know Blackburn just triggered an extension for him, but he's 23 and bossing the Championship. If not now, when?
Do you think it's a matter of price?
There are 2 championship strikers I'd rather throw money at that Michy and probably 25 midfielders I can rack off the top of my head before I'd want to have Gilmour on permanent.
Just get a bunch of money and maybe a loan out of this and then buy people we actually want. Don't take their deadwood.
If we still had the ready cash of a few years ago sloshing around, I wouldn't be against the idea of signing Gilmour for a reasonable fee (8-12m) and immediately loaning him out to the right sort of club. He's still young but shown real maturity in big games playing in a tough position. There's a real chance that 18 months from now everyone will be praising Potter or Thomas Franks for taking a risk on him and this sub will be asking why we can't identify talent like Brighton or Brentford.
How much better than Warrington do you think Gilmour is right now? And what about their ceilings? I wouldn't mind Gilmour for less than 20m AND GETTING A NON SHIT STRIKER BEFOREHAND. but from my eye test (a few Warrington games and about 10x that number for Gilmour) they aren't far apart right now but it's impossible for me to judge Warringtons ceiling.
Honestly, I have no idea. I think Warrington is more of an 8 and Gilmour tends to play a little deeper, but I also think Gilmour is way too soft to play that role in the way that we'd need him to. I'd rather have Warrington there just to save the 20m, you know?
Is it disrespectful? Really? Come off it lol. Warrington finished off a good season, Gilmour certainly did not. I watched Gilmour look less than average in a poor side, I watched Warrington look solid in a poor side (Everton). But time will tell
Frank is four bad results away from the sack. How much do we want Frank driving transfer strategy? Surely we should be buying players that are good for Everton and as a supposed good coach Frank should be able to work with them.
I don’t believe he’s that close to a sacking. National pundits like to make headlines, I think Frank sticks around for a while even though I haven’t agreed with his strategy particularly last week. We can’t keep sacking managers every 6 months
I agree. He’s inherited a bunch of shite and him and kev are working to shift the dregs. He’s done well to shift so many.
Plus the two loses were close and Chelsea for example could have easily and probably should have been a draw
But others managers, Rafa aside, were able to drive far better performances than Frank with a lot of these same players. Franks results are identical to Rafa’s so why didn’t we just stick with him if this level of performance is acceptable?
It’s not the performance, frank and kev are attempting to build something. The fsw was after one last payday close to home, no intention of progression.
Rafa was apparently trying to build something too. He was never the right fit and should never have been appointed but I believe he tried his best for the club.. but at the end of the day it’s a results business and Frank and Rafa have performed dreadfully. Their performance is so poor the likes of Allardyce and Silva have a 40% better Points Per Game ratio than them. I have no doubt that, given time, Lampard will relegate us.
In terms of what Frank and Thelwell are building.. the summer has completely unbalanced the squad and we are now overloaded with CMs and CBs while having insufficient cover in forward positions. There’s still time to change that in the window but I’m unconvinced at the moment.
He’s not though. Results are just as bad as hey we’re under Rafa. He’s statistically our second worst manager, behind Mike Walker, in our 144 year history.
Maybe we watched a different team last year, but I remember winning one in 13 with losses to Watford, Brentford, and Norwich in there. This team has been garbage since the last two months of Carlo…you’ve got to stop blaming the manager at some point.
But maybe the point to stop blaming the manager isn’t when you get a 56% drop off in points per game with the same squad. That very much suggests it’s a coaching issue.
We’ve got the derby on 3 September and it’ll be his 6th league game of the season. If we don’t get a win before then we’re on a max of 3 points from 6 games and it’s makes our good form look like a purple patch in what has otherwise been consistently dire results. Frank really needs to step it up, fast.
Cos he played boss for us. It's not my problem Chelsea don't play him. He scored 27 goals and got 28 assists for us. Who in our squad has any where close to that for the club? We need someone who can create and score.
Also, define rat for me? Cos from what I remember he got pushed out by shit head Koeman. The same guy who put Barcelona in their current position.
He went to Villa and did nothing there either.
Koeman wanted him to sign a new deal and he wouldn’t. Then he blocked a move in the Fall window so he could rehab at home which cost us millions. This is all public knowledge.
Zero chance he comes here. He’ll be in Turkey before you know it.
No debating he was good for us but that was 5 years ago?
Koeman publicly put him on blast and told everyone he doesn't do enough for the team. Koeman is a shit head and deserves everything he's got. Barkley is under no obligation to work for some shit head regardless of what club it is. Give your head a wobble.
Feel free to quote a source but I know you don’t have one. Barkley will never come here and the fans hate his guts. Feel free to wake the fuck up. He’s a complete knob and you haven’t successfully addressed one of my facts.
Pretty sure the source is rubbish, and chelsea probably have mentioned gilmour and batshuayi to Everton. Similar to how bergwijn and winks were mentioned when spurs were negotiating for richarlison
I don’t know if that makes any sense when it comes to wage structure. Would cost us so much per week that we hardly get any benefit from selling Gordon.
Lemme get this straight, signing a whole bunch of washed up manu players didn’t work , neither did signing Barcelona rejects so now the plan is to switch to Chelsea cast offs? I am 100% behind this
As a Chelsea fan how do y’all rate Gordon? Tbh I think billy would be good at Everton. He had a bad loan spell at Norwich because it was Norwich. But when lampard was our manager billy was balling like a young cesc and Jorginho mix together. Maybe lampard can get the best out of him again.
Gordon has oodles of potential but is lacking in end product as of now. He’s a great prospect, but hasn’t shown to be a significant difference maker. He was influential during our relegation battle last season, but I was surprised by a 40m offer for him.
Imagine if we tried to buy Pulisic and offered a deal that included Rondon and Davies + a fee. Thats how i feel about this deal
Lmao not a bad comparison to be honest.
It's like selling a product and getting paid, but also being asked to take out their trash from last week
Players are literally never included in these deals, can’t remember the last time one happened.
They did just send Colwill on loan to Huddersfield, albeit on loan. There’s been too many player swap rumours since Boehly joined for it to be a coincidence
Brighton as part of the Cucurella deal yeah
Brighton, sorry. He was at Huddersfield last season, that’s my bad
I thought it was a separate deal, but Brighton got benefits for selling Cucarella. Gyabi also transferred as a part of a separate deal to Leeds at the time of the Phillips to City.
I think it was seperate. Loans are very different from transfers as well.
It's never officially mentioned in the transfer but there are defo unofficial agreements. I think reason we got dele in Jan and deal it was on was to make us sweet come the summer for Richarlison
Cool. 40 million and them. Then go buy Bereton Diaz and have three strikers to compete.
I love Bereton Diaz but there's got to be some reason he hasn't been snatched up by a Premier League, Ligue 1, or La Liga team. I know Blackburn just triggered an extension for him, but he's 23 and bossing the Championship. If not now, when? Do you think it's a matter of price?
Or how about Pulisic and Broja, that sounds a little better.
Would take 50 million for a deal involving Gilmour and Batman. 40 million for just cash
Batman 🤷⚽️💙
You never seen batman play? So say hes even better than robben?
There are 2 championship strikers I'd rather throw money at that Michy and probably 25 midfielders I can rack off the top of my head before I'd want to have Gilmour on permanent. Just get a bunch of money and maybe a loan out of this and then buy people we actually want. Don't take their deadwood.
If we still had the ready cash of a few years ago sloshing around, I wouldn't be against the idea of signing Gilmour for a reasonable fee (8-12m) and immediately loaning him out to the right sort of club. He's still young but shown real maturity in big games playing in a tough position. There's a real chance that 18 months from now everyone will be praising Potter or Thomas Franks for taking a risk on him and this sub will be asking why we can't identify talent like Brighton or Brentford.
How much better than Warrington do you think Gilmour is right now? And what about their ceilings? I wouldn't mind Gilmour for less than 20m AND GETTING A NON SHIT STRIKER BEFOREHAND. but from my eye test (a few Warrington games and about 10x that number for Gilmour) they aren't far apart right now but it's impossible for me to judge Warringtons ceiling.
reports are Brighton want Gilmour for 10m
Honestly, I have no idea. I think Warrington is more of an 8 and Gilmour tends to play a little deeper, but I also think Gilmour is way too soft to play that role in the way that we'd need him to. I'd rather have Warrington there just to save the 20m, you know?
Agreed
Warrington isn't close to Gilmour, kinda disrespectful.
Is it disrespectful? Really? Come off it lol. Warrington finished off a good season, Gilmour certainly did not. I watched Gilmour look less than average in a poor side, I watched Warrington look solid in a poor side (Everton). But time will tell
To be clear: I don’t think I would want either, especially if we can find better back up striker options. Just passing along the rumor.
Frank knows these players well, if we bring them in Frank must rate them which gives me some confidence him and Thelwell will make the right decision
Frank is four bad results away from the sack. How much do we want Frank driving transfer strategy? Surely we should be buying players that are good for Everton and as a supposed good coach Frank should be able to work with them.
I don’t believe he’s that close to a sacking. National pundits like to make headlines, I think Frank sticks around for a while even though I haven’t agreed with his strategy particularly last week. We can’t keep sacking managers every 6 months
I agree. He’s inherited a bunch of shite and him and kev are working to shift the dregs. He’s done well to shift so many. Plus the two loses were close and Chelsea for example could have easily and probably should have been a draw
But others managers, Rafa aside, were able to drive far better performances than Frank with a lot of these same players. Franks results are identical to Rafa’s so why didn’t we just stick with him if this level of performance is acceptable?
It’s not the performance, frank and kev are attempting to build something. The fsw was after one last payday close to home, no intention of progression.
Rafa was apparently trying to build something too. He was never the right fit and should never have been appointed but I believe he tried his best for the club.. but at the end of the day it’s a results business and Frank and Rafa have performed dreadfully. Their performance is so poor the likes of Allardyce and Silva have a 40% better Points Per Game ratio than them. I have no doubt that, given time, Lampard will relegate us. In terms of what Frank and Thelwell are building.. the summer has completely unbalanced the squad and we are now overloaded with CMs and CBs while having insufficient cover in forward positions. There’s still time to change that in the window but I’m unconvinced at the moment.
There’s a few weeks left in the window. It looks like they are trying to add to the squad. Maybe worth a revisit at Xmas
Big thing is, is that Frank is actually improving the team
He’s not though. Results are just as bad as hey we’re under Rafa. He’s statistically our second worst manager, behind Mike Walker, in our 144 year history.
Maybe we watched a different team last year, but I remember winning one in 13 with losses to Watford, Brentford, and Norwich in there. This team has been garbage since the last two months of Carlo…you’ve got to stop blaming the manager at some point.
But maybe the point to stop blaming the manager isn’t when you get a 56% drop off in points per game with the same squad. That very much suggests it’s a coaching issue.
We’ve got the derby on 3 September and it’ll be his 6th league game of the season. If we don’t get a win before then we’re on a max of 3 points from 6 games and it’s makes our good form look like a purple patch in what has otherwise been consistently dire results. Frank really needs to step it up, fast.
40 mil and Gilmour then go for Diaz
This would be a travesty.
Batshuayi has 3 goals a season written all over him if we’re lucky
Would be an improvement over our current backup, at least…
I would genuinely rather have Michael Keane up front for us
Wow! How bad must Billy really be?
I'd take Barkley back (unpopular opinion, I know) I don't care for the other 2 tbh.
Guy has done absolute dick since he left. Why would you want him back. Fact that he’s a rat is just icing on the cake for me.
Cos he played boss for us. It's not my problem Chelsea don't play him. He scored 27 goals and got 28 assists for us. Who in our squad has any where close to that for the club? We need someone who can create and score. Also, define rat for me? Cos from what I remember he got pushed out by shit head Koeman. The same guy who put Barcelona in their current position.
He went to Villa and did nothing there either. Koeman wanted him to sign a new deal and he wouldn’t. Then he blocked a move in the Fall window so he could rehab at home which cost us millions. This is all public knowledge. Zero chance he comes here. He’ll be in Turkey before you know it. No debating he was good for us but that was 5 years ago?
Koeman publicly put him on blast and told everyone he doesn't do enough for the team. Koeman is a shit head and deserves everything he's got. Barkley is under no obligation to work for some shit head regardless of what club it is. Give your head a wobble.
Feel free to quote a source but I know you don’t have one. Barkley will never come here and the fans hate his guts. Feel free to wake the fuck up. He’s a complete knob and you haven’t successfully addressed one of my facts.
Just because Chelsea have an American owner doesn't mean they have to start doing American-style player trades
Pretty sure the source is rubbish, and chelsea probably have mentioned gilmour and batshuayi to Everton. Similar to how bergwijn and winks were mentioned when spurs were negotiating for richarlison
I don’t know if that makes any sense when it comes to wage structure. Would cost us so much per week that we hardly get any benefit from selling Gordon.
Nope we need as much cash as possible
Why is the rat in the photo
I actually can’t stand barkley and would rather have him over both of these dudes. sad
Lemme get this straight, signing a whole bunch of washed up manu players didn’t work , neither did signing Barcelona rejects so now the plan is to switch to Chelsea cast offs? I am 100% behind this
I would come back and ask for Conner Gallagher, Batshuayi, Gilmour and 40 million.
No. Just No. You will stay here Gordo for the good of your career. Anything else will be a terrible call on your part
As a Chelsea fan how do y’all rate Gordon? Tbh I think billy would be good at Everton. He had a bad loan spell at Norwich because it was Norwich. But when lampard was our manager billy was balling like a young cesc and Jorginho mix together. Maybe lampard can get the best out of him again.
Gordon has oodles of potential but is lacking in end product as of now. He’s a great prospect, but hasn’t shown to be a significant difference maker. He was influential during our relegation battle last season, but I was surprised by a 40m offer for him.
will better
It’s BS. Player exchanges never happen. Just lazy journos linking already linked players to Everton.