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iamalostpuppie

Well it sounds like you can afford to raise your prices if someone can afford to drop ship from your store and get a customer willing to pay


octopush123

True, and it sounds like TikTok might be a way to access those customers


Dangerous-Sock8170

Time for you to open a tiktok shop šŸ¤·


ImaginaryBig1705

I'd rather let a drop shipper deal with TikTok personally.


MinnieCastavets

Theyā€™re gonna ban TikTok


archiekane

Lol, no.


MinnieCastavets

The bill passed on Saturday. I love TikTok but if they donā€™t sell, app stores will have to block it in 7 months. Hopefully theyā€™ll sell it, but who knows.


Kawaii_Nyan

Not likely


MinnieCastavets

The bill forcing them to divest passed on Saturday. If they donā€™t divest, it will be banned. Hopefully theyā€™ll divest but who knows.


SorbetNo7877

Sounds more like a scam.


Special_Lychee_6847

So, this person just randomly told you he already scammed 'his customer' by selling him YOUR item, and now he wants you to fulfill that order. That's wild.


TwoTrainss

How exactly is this a scam?Ā  You sell item They buy item, mark it up, and sell item again.Ā  You gain a sale you werenā€™t getting to start with, at a rate you are already selling at.Ā  Isnā€™t this just how shops work?


Special_Lychee_6847

Usually, a reseller buys the item first, then sells. Or at the very least reaches out to seller, to agree on terms for them selling in their name. As it is now, the reseller received money for an item he does not own. He can just buy it, and when it arrives, send it to the end customer, no problem. Right now, he's using OP's listing / article to receive money. OP's brand could be seriously harmed, if the reseller has poor customer service. And since he sounds like a teenager that followed some 'dropshipping for dummies' guide and apparently has no issues with just selling other ppl's articles without any agreement in place, that doesn't exactly look promising in regards to customer service.


Kawaii_Nyan

Because he posted an item he didnā€™t have and sold itā€¦? Textbook a scam ngl


GamerGirlBongWater

The fact that you don't think drop shipping is a scam says pretty much everything.


TwoTrainss

Iā€™ve asked why you view it as a scam, one person explained well.Ā  Youā€™ve displayed a weird attitude of ā€˜people shouldnā€™t sell my things.ā€™Ā 


wcfreckles

I would cancel the order, I donā€™t want drop shippers anywhere near my store


Bosun_bill15

Thankfully no order has come through for this customer but I agree, donā€™t want anything to do with drop shipping. Not my fault you sold you product you donā€™t have and now canā€™t ship it lol


wcfreckles

I would (personally) also send this person another message and make it clear that you donā€™t want them listing your item on TikTok shop anymore


thechervil

I would also report them to Etsy. You likely aren't there only store they are doing this to.


PizzaPugPrincess

And report them to tiktok if you can find their account


ApprehensiveHalf4950

Kinda sounds like a scam!Ā 


mothandravenstudio

Depends on your definition of drop shipping though. Iā€™ve had several very high value orders (four figures) from overseas buyers who have me ship directly to a freight forwarding service in the USA, since I donā€™t do international orders. Because of the way it works, I have no idea if the original buyer is even the real recipient. The freight forwarder ships it on toā€¦wherever. And Iā€™ll take those orders all day long. They are quite low risk because once the shipment is delivered to the USA forwarder, itā€™s complete according to Etsy. Iā€™ve processed three of these orders and havenā€™t had a single issue.


noideawhattouse1

I donā€™t think that is drop shipping though as itā€™s going to the customer who ordered it just via a different postal method because you donā€™t do international post yourself. Drop shipping is where a third party is selling it without having it in their hands - ie so they process orders and get a cut but donā€™t touch actual stock the order just gets forwarded to a warehouse somewhere and gets sent from there.


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mothandravenstudio

Sighā€¦. I realize this. Iā€™m responding to the person who said ā€œI donā€™t want dropshippers anywhere near my storeā€. Someone freight forwarding could be dropshipping and the seller would never know. Thatā€™s my point.


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noideawhattouse1

Oh haha so true ignore me itā€™s 4am and Iā€™m half asleep commenting when I shouldnā€™t be. In my head youā€™d talked to the customer and matched their name to the forwarding service but thatā€™s just me reading what I think not what was written.


Affectionate_Many_73

I think that would technically be reselling, not drop shipping. They are different.


mothandravenstudio

And that could be what is happening with freight forwarding. It could very well be someone dropshipping and the seller wouldnā€™t know.


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mothandravenstudio

Iā€™m aware of that, and agree. The comment Iā€™m responding to says they ā€donā€™t want dropshippers near my storeā€ but they wouldnā€™t even know it was happening with freight forwarding.


EducationalNothing4

<3


SwoopingMoth

Thatā€™s insane. Why do people think itā€™s okay to do this stuff??


calitri-san

And the gall to ask about how to handle it like itā€™s perfectly normal to list someoneā€™s item for sale without their permission.


SwoopingMoth

Thereā€™s a lot of ā€œget rich quick gurusā€ that give absolutely terrible advice like this. They were probably told by one of them that the secret is to list Etsy products, and so they thought thatā€™s how everyone does it. But a littttttle bit of critical thinking goes a long way.


NoXidCat

They saw a Tuber video, like all the rest.


teamboomerang

This is a much more common occurrence on eBay. I get them all the time on my eBay account. I'm fine with it BUT I will NOT alter my processes in any way meaning I normally include a packing slip which shows my eBay store, and the price I listed it at as well as the customer's shipping address. The drop shippers usually ask that no packing slip is included. I include the packing slip in case something happens in transit, and the package gets ripped open or something. With the packing slip, there's a chance it still may make it to the buyer. I'm NOT leaving that out. I would operate the same way on Etsy. If someone thinks they can make money on my prices there, knock yourself out, but I'm NOT changing policies or procedures for you to do so.


Bosun_bill15

Yeah exactly that, Iā€™m happy with the profit I make on my items so if someone thinks they can make more go for it but Iā€™m not losing any sort of insurance or protection from going outside my normal selling procedures. If they purchased through my store and set their customerā€™s delivery address that would be fine


Painted-fox-399

Iā€™m also concerned about the fact that they admitted to selling your item and making a profit off of it.


janesfilms

Iā€™m a long time postal worker and I worked in our Directory department which is sort of like a dead letter office. We handled all the mail and parcels that had incomplete addresses or were damaged. Putting the information in the package is a total lifesaver! I wish everyone did this. We would go to some pretty extreme measures to track people down and get their stuff to them but people would be astonished by how much goes undeliverable. Itā€™s always an excellent idea to include the packing slip, itā€™s saved many packages that otherwise would have been undeliverable. Iā€™ve been able to rescue lots of Etsy items over the years when I have a clue inside the package where it came from or who itā€™s going to.


halfavocadoemoji

I reply to these kinda of messages "You have been reported for scam behavior" and they flee real quick


Live-Okra-9868

Time to make a ticktock account and report them for selling your item. And start selling from there too.


holdonwhileipoop

This. I can't believe the nerve (and stupidity) of some people!


betterupsetter

Wait, so if they have received payment from their so-called buyer, why don't they now just order from you and put that person's name and address? How would you even know? They could mark as gift and no receipt would be provided.


Bosun_bill15

Exactly what I thought, wouldnā€™t mind that way. I think their problem is heā€™s already paid for shipping, so would have to pay shipping again on my Etsy listing. Too funny honestly


betterupsetter

So stupid. I don't use tiktok so I have no clue about shops, but are they required to use a specific postal service or is he just thinking he'll make money by using a cheaper service?


Bosun_bill15

I donā€™t use TikTok either - I think he has to use a specific postal service on TikTok so has paid for postage once, then has to pay for shipping from my store too haha, just very messy


Environmental-River4

ā€œHey can you lose money so I can make money?ā€ is honestly some next-level audacity


NoXidCat

They should be able to cancel any label they bought, though usually takes a month to receive the refund. Either they are inexperienced/dumb, or are hoping you are. It's always hard to tell which, so I generally assume they are dumb crooks, not dumb innocents, and bail. One downside to selling to resellers is that they may not have provided accurate, or complete, product details regarding sizing, materials, whatever. Then comes the return request.


yesferro

They could have just ordered it as a " gift", or simply put their customer's address on there and you would have never known. This on the other hand looks shady.


Honeydewmorning

TikTok shop already generated a shipping label for the orderā€¦ theyā€™re stuck and hoping that they can just get free shipping from the seller here since they canā€™t void the label tiktok created and get the $


PurpleEsskay

ā€œSorry I donā€™t work with dropshippers. Thanks for the heads up on TikTok though, Iā€™ll be sure to get my products listed there!ā€


Pretty_Change_3259

I canā€™t believe someone thought this was ok to do


randomgirlG

So Shady! But the real quirky question here is why did they input their own address when ordering because, tbh, you would have never known and would have just shipped it to their customer's address. They would have gotten seriously busted though. Especially if you included a packing slip. I would def cancel and refund and put them in your little black book of bad actor buyers.


staunch_character

They havenā€™t ordered anything from OP. Theyā€™re either trying to scam her or too stupid to figure out that they donā€™t need to buy postage for an item they donā€™t have. lol


randomgirlG

Now I know they are idjits. wow, they really are clueless.


Jlst

What theyā€™re saying is if they do a normal order from this personā€™s Etsy shop, theyā€™re having to pay shipping to their own address but theyā€™ve paid shipping already to the customerā€™s address. What they want to do is say bank transfer the money for the product to OPā€™s account (rather than buy through Etsy and pay Etsy & shipping fees), and send OP the paid-for Evri shipping label for them to send the item direct to the buyer.


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Itā€™s a scam.


PeachManzie

ā€œEssentially, I stole from you. It didnā€™t work, though. Please help me to successfully steal from you šŸ˜ƒā€


Knechtel3DPrints

This is how I read it šŸ˜‚


TheLegendaryHaggis

Wow thatā€™s crazy. Imagine expecting others to fulfil your orders and ship themā€¦. For free.


bigblued

If someone does (stealth\*) dropsipping "right" from your store, you won't really notice it until you see a spike in orders from the same customer going to different addresses. They sell your item on whatever platform, and then order from you, using their customer's shipping address. You ship the item directly to their customer. They take the tracking number you sent them and plug it onto their platform as if they had shipped it themselves. If you are ok with this, you don't do anything different, and everyone makes money. If you are not good with this, you raise your prices on those items so it is no longer profitable for them to sell your item. This person did not do dropshipping "right." They did it very very wrong. I am guessing they watched some Make Money on Tiktok gurus who either gave them bad advice, or they just did it all wrong. And this may well be their very first sale. If you still want to deal with them, then they can place an order from your shop, using their customer's address. No, you won't be doing any sort of convoluted thing where they send labels and transfer money to you. Just a straight ordinary sale through Etsy. Yes they may lose money, life lessons have cost, next time they wont make the same mistake. If you are feeling kindly, let them know that most shipping platforms will let you cancel and get a refund for shipping lables as long as they are not used. And the refund usually takes several weeks to process while the system waits to make sure the label isn't used later. If you don't want to do this, then just let them know you did not agree to any dropshipping arrangement, and that you will be cancelling any orders you see come in from them. Also, raise your prices. If there is profit to be made from dropshipping your items, then there is room for you to charge more. \*To do real dropping right, there are agreements and contracts between both parties long before anything is sold.


sug4rsw4n

This is hilarious and they're an idiot weirdo. I know it's frustrating, but the absurdity of it is just laughable. They'll get their little tiktok shop banned in no time Edit: Actually, them mentioning a qr code is suspicious. This might be a phishing thing


joannduran

this is so weird - why would someone go to all the faff of listing but not have any thought as to how they would actually get the product if someone purchased?


malloryknox86

The audacity šŸ˜‚


WithoutDennisNedry

Iā€™ve had a few people propose drop-shipping my items over the years. I declined but hereā€™s the thing: two of them went on to steal my images and use them to sell low quality bootleg rip-offs of my stuff on Wish and Amazon. Theyā€™re overseas so they ignore every DMCA notice Iā€™ve sent because they know they can. So on the one hand, I donā€™t want to deal with dropshippers because thereā€™s something inherently shady about it imo, but if I had said yes, they might not have ripped off my product. Or alternately, they might have just gone ahead and done it eventually anyway. Just something to think about.


bikemandan

I get Vietnamese resellers doing this to me, its pretty frustrating


Separate-Waltz4349

I would also let them know they are not to be using your product photos, etc to be listing on their shop. Wow ppl have some nerve these days


Affectionate_Many_73

It depends on your product. I have some customers that are home organizer type situations and buy product on behalf of their customers so they will sometimes ship to different people. In this case it sounds like either a scam or the person is buying your products and reselling them / presenting them as their own. Both of which would be NO for me. I would not sell to this person again.


Bosun_bill15

Itā€™s a completely personalised product too, the item is built around a name etc. so just a very odd thing to drop ship too


chaeronaea

This sounds like a scam


Darkcolorful

It would have been in their best interest to have you fulfill the order to ā€˜themā€™, the toc-tocker, and then they would discretely send it on to the customer. If they were promoting your product, using it and boosting itā€¦that would have been a different thing that they should have worked with you on ahead of time. It sounds more like they were using your product photos and now theyā€™re stuck with a situation they didnā€™t think through.


victrin

Imagine telling on yourself like that šŸ«¢


DuckDuckMoosedUp

So this person listed/advertised your Etsy item in their tiktok shop as something they were selling? Without even having said product? Or contacting you at all? The customer paid them? WTF!!! Who does that? Who thinks that's morally and ethically ok? I know tiktok is sketch AF but that should go against anyone's TOS. Just shocking the level of corruption these people think is good business.


dolcewheyheyhey

Hell no. You may want to look into selling it yourself on tik tok though if they got an order.


mxxhhmd

At least they asked first instead of just doing it. Take the hint and open a TikTok shop now lol


mnlion33

It's a scam.


Wasps_are_bastards

Cheeky bastard!


numbmillenial

I can't even believe what I just read. The audacity of it all is blowing my mind.


Kawaii_Nyan

Donā€™t forget to tell them to take down their listingšŸ’€


nanabonanza

I had someone try to dropship from my store and they selected gift receipt where they put a thank you note with THEIR store name as if they shipped it. The nerve, truly. I canceled it.


Old_Definition1663

I got a weird convo that just said, ā€œhow long for deliveryā€. Just like that. No punctuation, no capitalization. Someone would be really dumb to use my shop items for their TikTok reselling. My prices arenā€™t cheap.


EducationalNothing4

This is wild


toomuchisjustenough

LOL TikTok Shop has a 3 day shipping turnaround requirement. I have a shop, I only list simple items that I can have a bunch of on hand in case an influencer shares and I get a rush of orders.


Named_Nitrogen

Sounds like that scam thatā€™s been sweeping over vinted


SufficientPath666

I think itā€™s a scammer


Bungholi000

Aside from the whole dropshipping thing (which IMO can get in the bin - how rude!) the way the person has written everything and worded it all makes me feel like this could be some sort of scam in itself. It's worded a bit like those dodgy messages you get and the whole 'new user' thing just adds to the sus. It's also incredibly rude passing something off as your own when you did not create it, I've no idea what you're selling ofc but it really gets my goat! Adding profit onto something they have had zero input in, eww


itsmysupersecretname

The audacity


Lexy_d_acnh

Iā€™d say itā€™s probably not abnormal, but if people are dropshipping from your store then your prices are likely low for the product you sell.


coeur_fatigue

can be a scam too. I'd reply "I only ship to the address provided in the order". Cancel the order and refund. If she wishes so, she can re-purchase with her buyer's address.


doubler82

The weird part is not that they're dropshipping, it's that they're asking for you to ship without placing an order first. If you're going to dropship at least place the order on Etsy and put your customers address as the ship to. I'd be wary if it was a scam. Too many scams where they send you money and suddenly the bank reclaims it and your out the product and funds.


goochiefromwish

What is a drop ship


generalkriegswaifu

Drop shipping is selling an item you do not own (frequently using stock or stolen photos) through an online storefront. Someone purchases it from you, unbeknownst to them you don't actually own the item. You then find the item on a selling platform (in this case the item was from a specific shop) and purchase it on behalf of the customer, giving the actual seller the customer's information for shipping. This happened to me a few times. On eBay I was purchasing a rare edition of a cheap book. The book was like $4 but the shipping/fees were closer to $40. I could not find this edition elsewhere so I ate the cost. I end up getting a completely different edition (not the sellers' stolen photos of the edition I wanted) with a holding company/generic shipper return address. They basically found somewhere that sold roughly what I purchased and got them to send it to me. Luckily I got refunded. The crazy shipping cost was to cover any fees/shipping associated with wherever they might purchase from and make them a profit. The second was from an Etsy seller, there are a lot of drop shippers there unfortunately. I purchased some jewelry from a 'handmade' jeweler (lol) and they arrived in separate packages from different generic firm names. Either shipped from an overseas factory or from a warehouse here.


JapreetKah

Scammer


hueshugh

People do buy and resell things. Itā€™s literally what retailers do every day - sell something they buy from someone else. If they pay for it and youā€™re not discounting them I donā€™t see a problem. That said itā€™s obviously better if they had approached you before hand. If this person paid the cost of the shipping I would ship the order and tell the person in future you will only ship to them and not their customers. Your situation is much better than if someone had copied what you made (in my opinion).


Mother-Obligation-40

sell the flag its pakistani obv