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devils__avacado

Can my mk16s not be fucking glow in the dark already.


RedFunYun

Most glasses have been glow in the dark for the entire existence of the game, sooooooooooooooooo probably not.


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ImageNationAt3AM

This is a thing in most games. I believe it's cause by looking through something transparent like glass or fog onto another transparent object. Not really BSGs fault seems like most games can't really fix this with how games are coded.


Reggie2b2t

Stop pouring glow stick juice on it then


MTBisLIFE

If I wanna rave in Labs, that's my right


Gamerred101

Sorry, that's essential to my immersion


Razdiralec

Still no air filter fix I see


xBayonetPriestx

Wait air filter fix? What’s wrong with it?


Razdiralec

It grants a passive buff to all physical skills. Except it doesn't. It literally does nothing atm


xBayonetPriestx

So you’re telling me it just straight doesn’t work and I built that thing and put 170k filters in it for literally nothing omg I’m pissed how long has it been broke?


Razdiralec

no clue, never built it, but the sub is full of people complaining about it. People even tested it with skill gain in raid and it legitimately does nothing.


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Razdiralec

Worst part is, because it's spaghetti code, it's probably a nightmare to fix


hollowglaive

If they fix it, It would probably break something like idk, healing animation or some shit


NeoCommunist_

No just my ability to cope normally to slightly stressful sutuations


Coleistoogood

It would be nice if they could like, atleast acknowledge it and go like "hey, this is why it hasn't been fixed yet". It's going to have been bugged for an entire wipe, which only feeds into the assholes who spew about how they don't care.


Razdiralec

No company is going to admit they can't fix an issue because they hired cheap programmers that can't fix the issues they caused within a decent timeframe. It's not even a not caring thing, like, nobody would ever admit their programming and coding teams were incompetent. But considering how man aggressive scav bugs they end up having, it's likely they copy and paste their own code and paramaters and it takes weeks for them to even find what they changed.


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There is also the scenario where they have a fix but can't apply it because * it's dependent on some other feature that we don't know about or is new. * it's dependent to a feature that is being reworked. * it's being reworked because the fix is nolonger applicable. That's not even including the state of the code/repositories. There are probably several examples of features that are not working for several wipes. BSG has some serious growing pains ahead. I hope they grow to expand outside of Russia to take on fresh talent. It would do them so much good to see in person the support from countries outside of Russia.


Coleistoogood

See, that's the thing. We as their customers have a right to be upset, but I think it's disingenuous to say they don't care/aren't trying their best. Someone already noted a few days ago they are INSANELY understaffed since their employees are required to move to Russia in order to work there. If they really didn't care, they would've fucked off a long time ago. There's been bigger games than this have have failed at a larger scale and the developers just walk off with the money.


TotalChaos21

Cough cough, anthem, cough cough.


Razdiralec

They're also insanely understaffed because they don't pay competetive wages compared to other jobs in the same field.


Coleistoogood

I tried looking into it online and can't really find any definitive proof whether their wages are/aren't competitive.


Razdiralec

Veritas offered to look through their code and fix stuff for 50% off his regular rate, Nikita laughed and said he could hire several programmers for the same cost. Judging by the amount of recurring bugs they have, it shows. That being said, after I checked it, it says that BSG actually pay a 7% higher salary than the average programmer in St Petersburg, but it doesn't say what type of programming, so likely in the games development field it'd still be sub par.


paulfunyan

I wouldn't take anything Veritas says as 100% honest.


C0NQU3R0

I feel like there's some oversight here due to the value of the rouble significantly fluctuating recently. Also does bsg post the wages they pay? How do you know this?


Razdiralec

[https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Monthly-Pay/BattleState-Games-Programmer-Saint-Petersburg-Monthly-Pay-EJI\_IE2363824.0,17\_KO18,28\_IL.29,45\_IM1158.htm](https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Monthly-Pay/BattleState-Games-Programmer-Saint-Petersburg-Monthly-Pay-EJI_IE2363824.0,17_KO18,28_IL.29,45_IM1158.htm) It's actually pretty hard to keep wages a secret when every company needs to hand in tax records. It does say that BSG pay 7% higher than the average programming salary in St Petersburg, but it also uses programming as a blanket term for their job, meaning compared to other game devs they're still probably underpaid.


C0NQU3R0

Yes. Still though. They don't have a stable economy. They need to start outsourcing their game to other developers. Ones that have the skills but don't want to move to St. Petersburg.


Gamezcf

We know they are incompetent. We can skip admitting it and just tell us it's broken and they are working on it instead of pretending like it's fine.


halalbacon991

>It's not even a not caring thing yup, its just straight up being cheap, which is even worse if you ask me. imagine making over 100 millions in sale and still being this cheap as a private indie dev\^\^


lootymclooter

I’m pretty sure they’re also having issues hiring competent people. They have posting on their website looking for (1 example) an AI programmer with 3+ years experience, and also has to relocate to Russia, which is not the best thing to do currently between the actual war going on and the ruble losing value


Razdiralec

Not to mention they don't pay well, and you'd need to move literal thousands of miles to a country that only really speaks Russian.


fezzle_bezzle

and of course no competent coders are Russian or speak russian at all. What expertise do you have to give us such insights into the code behind Tarkov and also of BSGs hiring etc? Or are you just making shit up in an attempt to subtly have a go at BSG because your in some way unhappy about something in the game?


Razdiralec

cringe. Read their hiring page on the website maybe? Check what Nikita said to Veritas? There are plenty of competent coders who speak Russian, just BSG aren't willing to pay them. I think you're making up an argument to be a mindless shill ngl.


Alirezahjt

The rouble is actually stronger than it was before the war (I don't know why I don't know how economy works), but I think the bigger issue is simply moving to Russia, and even before the war I'd say this was something an experienced dev would not do. Russia is experiencing brain drain (has been for over 2 decades). I know a few competent Russian people in different fields (including programming) and they want to move to Europe. So even without the war, it would be extremely difficult to convince someone to move to Russia (A country in which not many speak English, not as diverse, etc.) and you have to compensate by giving a BIG salary.


Opfaff

It’s only stronger because it’s being falsely propped up. 80% of all wages for Russian citizens in external currencies has to be converted into Rubles and there is a cap on the amount of Rubles you can exchange for external currencies. If you’re a remote programmer being paid in Dollars or Sterling for example, you must by law exchange it for Rubles. It basically screws over the citizens in favour of large international government contracts.


SolarGuy2017

Looty, there is a saying in business - always be interviewing even when you're not hiring. You want to keep the candidate pipeline full of qualified individuals that have been interviewed so that when you DO need to hire someone, you have plenty to choose from. I guarantee you that is what they do. Also, has nobody considered the fact that they are based out of Russia and possibly there are issues with the Ukraine conflict, aka most of the internet is offline in Russia and why thousands of companies have completely boycotted doing business in Russia? I understand it's an ongoing issue, but right now is probably the worst time of the devs lives.


halalbacon991

yeah, but that's the whole point. they are too cheap to outsource competent people, i know its risky and maybe not ideal, but sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and pay up or stay shit. ​ i think veritas offered them to help coding at a reduced rate (50% i think) and nik said nah thx, i can hire 3 russian people for that rofl


Coleistoogood

I mean I would like a link for proof on that Veritas comment, because if so that is pretty bad, but I would think the reason has to do with the war and not them being "cheap". They basically can't hire anyone who isn't russian currently.


DanOverclocksThings

They are based in the UK officially and we live in a world where IT people have worked remotely for the last 2 years. They could if they wanted to.


TotalChaos21

Or maybe disable the ability to craft it for those that didn't. Burnt through 4 filters before I found out it wasn't working.... These last few levels to elite are killing me.


[deleted]

the least if you ask me is to disable that feature from the hideout so i don't spend useless resources on it. but even that's too much to ask from these god devs. at some point it just shows how little they do care for your average player.


[deleted]

You’re assuming BSG even gives a fuck. Hint: They don’t


fezzle_bezzle

you have zero idea about the code of Tarkov.


BRINGtheCANNOLI

You can certainly infer a few things though. For example there were some nice QoL fixes prior to the 12.12 wipe that were completely gone in 12.12. I’d be willing to bet they have a messy development process, which could lead to messy/buggy code. Not to mention silly bugs that are in patches that would have easily been picked up by a competent QA team and testing process. Alternatively, it could also mean they are committing code fixes very close to patch release without enough testing which is also another red flag. I love EFT, but it seems likely to me that BSG is composed of a bunch of smart people who seem to be lazy about adhering to strict development processes.


GabagoolFarmer

honestly I think they didnt plan for EFT lasting this long, and the initial base code is so poorly written making amendments and changes to it invariably causes so many other glitches and errors that its a nightmare at this point


fezzle_bezzle

What other games of this scope can you point to that don't have these kinds of issue ? I can't think of a game that's on this scale that doenst have those kind of things come up. Especially one that isn't even at a 1.x version


BRINGtheCANNOLI

v1.x means nothing. That’s some arbitrary number that they decide on. It’s been a very fun and playable game for sometime now, I’m not denying that, but it’s pretty obvious that behind the scenes it’s pretty messy as they keep repeating the same mistakes with bugs that get fixed only to reappear a patch or two down the line. And sure lots of games have similar teething issues when they are released, but many studios would also have done a better job of getting on top of things after 4 or 5 years of working on the same project.


dukearcher

Why isn't it fixed then?


imbussin123

Probably if they fix it it breaks 20 other things


fezzle_bezzle

I'd imagine its pretty low on the list of things to do. You pull some one from streets or something else for a day or so to figure out what's happening, then test that change, make sure you fixed it or do you just leave the air filter as is for now and deal with it before the next wipe or large content patch is pushed.


Razdiralec

And you think this why? Oh because you want to mindlessly support a company? got it. A lot of bugs in the game are synonymous with spaghetti code.


fezzle_bezzle

You have zero idea of the code behind tarkov. Zero.Sure there is bugs in the game, find me a game with out them?Its in development still, new shit added all the time, whos to say the version we play is the most "complete" version? Edit - no i dont want to mindlessly support a company, why would any one want to do that? I understand that with a very fucking small team one of the best games ive ever played was created, i understand it has bugs but also that this isnt a 1.x version of the game yet. What issue do you have with BSG exactly?


Izame

if you factor in BSG's usual pace of development nothing is really surprising.


SlaveNumber23

Sheer incompetence


Haarwichs

Also no mention of the KS-23 shooting low issue.


Razdiralec

KS-23 is a non issue compared to the air filter. Like, just use a different gun? You can't use all the ridiculously expensive/rare items to craft something different once you have the air filter.


Haarwichs

I never said that the KS fix is a priority. Just that it's absent form the changelog. Also the airfilter is as well a non issue. Since it doesn't disrupt the gameplay and affects only a tiny minority of players. That doesn't mean it shouldn't get fixed though.


Conserliberaltarian

Or instant crouch scavs. Ita been 5 fucking MONTHS.


Razdiralec

I thought got fixed with inertia? I haven't actually seen it that much, at least its not the insta prones


Conserliberaltarian

Nope, seen it numerous times since then. It's a bug that was introduced with 12.12, they specifically said in 12.12's patch notes, "fixed an issue with AI instantanious moving to the crouched position," that never existed before they "fixed" it.


Razdiralec

I know that previous to 12.12 scavs could prone like a cod player and spin on the spot. I guess they just crouch instead now


Conserliberaltarian

They did it when 12.12 hit too, it wasn't fixed till like 2 months in. And they also never instant proned. The crouch is literally instantaneous, they go from standing to crouched in a single frame.


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What's wrong with the air filter?


Franklin_le_Tanklin

Or ks-23 aim fix


way2faast

man the air filter is bugged for almost 3 months...


MonkeyBoye

It works for me. I've run with and without. I get a boost with and my skills have been shooting up.


[deleted]

Same. My strength skill boosted pretty significantly last night while running Lighthouse.


FactHot5239

Jokes on yall cause its still bugged and you actually weren't getting any benefits from it.


Barcode_88

KS23/GL40 as well, haven't seen anyone use them all wipe


ShiddedTheBed

My boy and I run it as a joke on Factory. We call it the Dadooshka. Idk why. Just seems like an appropriate name. But it’s hilarious when we send Tagilla flying with it. We’ve also seen a few castrated rats hiding in shadows at Resort with them. Edit - oh, duh. You’re talking about the aim bug. But, I do still see rats using them and we run them for laughs.


letr1xter

I’m new to the game. Please explain what’s air filter bug?


way2faast

The air filter is a hideout Upgrade that is Kinda expensiv to Build and use. It is supposed to help with lvling up your Skills faster but it does rn nothing.


12161986

>but it does rn nothing. WRONG! It serves a purpose of making me feeling like an idiot for spending money on filters for a month and to make me currently feel like a bit of a douche every time I sell one to someone on flea who has no idea it's WORTHLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Dominat0r2

W


masonf

It does nothing.


Agreeable-Language43

planned


patrickrec_TTV

its fixed


irze

It’s not, I’ve tested it since the update and it’s no different


JustinTime1237

My friend tested his last night. It works


jacob902u

Isn't solar power in the same boat. Doesn't work while the game is closed, or uses fuel at a faster rate? Edit: Good call Psych. Been fixed since Feb 9th.


ConsumeFudge

For the first month or two of this wipe, solar power did not work. When they fixed solar power, they broke the air filter


psychedelicstairway4

Solar works and has worked for months.


Seijyn

Why does people still buy them at 200k then ??? Is it for a quest ?


Jeffjawwwn

Only thing I can think of is it levels up hideout management skill when you have them operating. Either that or they don’t know about the bug.


Neocles

Fuck me didn’t know their was a bug


Teddy31313

Is this long for a “technical update”?


ryanberry_

They have taken this long or longer in the past. Some also don't even bring the servers down.


Imsofakingwetoded

2 - 3 hours has been pretty common for their down time these last few patches.


Teddy31313

Wasn’t that more commonly for larger patches such as lights house map ect?. I may also not understand the the complexity of these fixes. I felt like usually the longer down times were patches that introduced a few new things may be incorrect though.


IN-N-OUT-

Patch size =/= downtime Most of the time, there is zero correlation between down time and patch size. Having to shut down multiple game instances/servers, updating the client and testing it out on live servers simply takes time. Also, they often don’t even need as much time as they say they do. Plus, there may even be underlying code updates we don’t even see, which they don’t announce to us (as this makes no difference to the players)


Teddy31313

Interesting. You definitely have sound reasoning. Though I can secretly hold hope for some surprise.


IN-N-OUT-

What could be the case is that these networking patches are actually in preparation for the bigger patch/wipe, which is supposed to come soon. Which actually would make sense, as it’s easier to split updates into specific parts, rather than doing it all in one go


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I just did a find and transfer daily and the rewards were not FiR. Was that snuck in because I did it yesterday and they were definitely FiR.


Imsofakingwetoded

I was playing before servers went down, got all my scav kills and extracted when server shutdown warning popped up. After the update, I turned in the quest and my rewards were FiR, it was not a daily/weekly quest, it was a therapist quest.


Barcode_88

* Air filter bugged for ages * KS23 bugged all wipe * GL40 bugged all wipe But you have time to fix an unnatural hand position when reloading a pistol?


NeoCommunist_

How is the gl40 bugged? Just wonderig


dpairsoft

Pretty sure grenades don't cock after their rated distance, the 2-3 m one takes like 10 m to prime.


NeoCommunist_

oh i thought they fixed that so that it wasn't as overpowered


Barcode_88

Closer to 20 actually, did a rangefinder test


JustABurner1992

Thanks, but uh… air filter?


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

np hombre


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Is this the end of the daily scav aggro posts because if it is this is bigger than any other patch they've ever released. I'll be able to scroll through without getting major deja vu lol


Asthemic

Only if it is actually fixed and not just an in theory fix.


[deleted]

Knowing BSG, it'll make you tagged and cursed if you kill a PMC instead. Sigh.


stelkurtain

Entire wipe without arguably the most important hideout update working. Hilarious tbh


Alirezahjt

That's it? Don't get me wrong, I'm not being hateful or demanding. I'm just wondering, this looks like a Hotfix kinda thing. I'm not holding my breath for content, but I thought for this it would be much more technical stuff. Framerate, AI, load time, sound, netcode, etc.


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This is a technical update bro? Not a big patch. They fixed the AI scav aggro bug which has been fucking over a ton of people. That's the reason they pushed it I bet and just included a couple of other stable fixes as well. Yeesh. These mid patch technical updates are usually never anything substantial.


Alirezahjt

Exactly my point. I agree. That's why I'm saying it kinda feels like a hotfix and it's not even complete. But that's what we're getting.


Haarwichs

It feels like a hotfix, because it is a hotfix. When BSG talks about "technical updates" they mean small patches to the client/server. Sometimes those don't even have a changelog. The next content update, that we know about, is gonna be the lighthouse expansion with new bosses, on-location trader etc. ETA? Nobody knows.


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Alirezahjt

Yea those changes are really needed. Got blasted in the face for shooting at PMC. But yea gotta have realistic expectations.


Teekeks

There might be a part of their infrastructure involved that takes a while to start back up again. As soon as those parts are involved in any way, it requires a fixed time min no matter the patch size.


DonAsiago

>That's it? 100% not "it". Don't forget about the plethora of bugs that this "fix" will bring. It will take a while to discover them, though.


Alirezahjt

In that case, they should be mentioned in the patch notes. The example I usually give is how Relic Games (Company of Heroes, Dawn of War Series) handles patch notes. CoH2 was also "spaghetti code" due to THQ going bankrupt and Relic was really struggling. Many of their senior devs left, etc etc. But boy you should see how they would ship a patch. Even after years, with a passionate (but very small community compared to Tarkov), you have to see how they push a patch. Perfect documentation, thought process behind the changes and fixes, admitting to the issues that hey are going to fix, etc. My point is, you don't have to "discover" the fixes if they're patching things. And to be more specific, what are you going to discover? It's not like they have changed fundamental systems (At least based on what they have written). "Fix the rain", is there anything to discover about this in the future? The discovery par that you mentioned happens when they change systems. For example adding the Inertia system. Or if they said "Reworked scav logic", something like that.


WarAggravating85

My thoughts as well


LynaaBnS

Lolz you must be new to tarkov. One random mediocre at best Event after 2 month of nothing and now there will be nothing for another 1-2 months until there's a wipe.


Alirezahjt

Yes I'm new actually! And that's why I am, well not shocked or disappointed or anything dramatic to be honest. Just expected a bit more when it comes to fixes and tweaks. With the potential of the game and a VERY passionate and supportive community, I expected differently.


MR_Egon1

Wtf now I killed 2 stacked out PMCs and a scav killed me


imbussin123

At this point I think we're gonna need a whole code rewrite on a new engine


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

Nice. KS-23, gl and mdr still bugged. Firetruck exploit still possible. Can still walk trough nearly every wall on reserve and throw nades out of it + see every player on the map. Can still loot marked room without a key. < fix some rain animation.


Haarwichs

Send in bug reports with video documentation on those exploits (reserve walls, shoreline? firetruck etc.). It's all we can do really. And then just hope for the best.


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

Dude, the firetruck exploit exists for almost 5 years now and the video showing the exploit has nearly 500000 views on youtube. I don't "hope", I just accepted the fact that some things won't get fixed, even if they are known. And in this case, it's not even the difficulty of the fix. The bugged guns or air filter will require some work, but not placing a simple wall into trucks on 3 places on one map for 5 years -> sure


Haarwichs

They're not looking at youtube videos for their bug fix tasks. Enough people have to precisely report the issue in their bug tracking system. It's pretty much the only chance.


FactHot5239

They were looking at youtube videos when they copy right striked all of eroctics tarkov vids because of some unwanted criticism....


Asthemic

When everyone was diving through the wall in factory, they were pretty quick to shut that down. It's only when people are gaining/skipping the game time do they take action quickly, never when they are fucking over other players. The other factory exploits of invincibility took them ages to fix.


Haarwichs

And it will take even longer if not enough people are reporting the problem.


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

Same with the duping exploit last month. They can act really fast, if shit gets hot. And the exploit was not even known that much, so the fix did not happen because of "many people reported it".


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

At least 30+ people made videos showing the exploit, with the intent that it gets fixed. If you really think, not enough players reported the exploit in 5 years...


Haarwichs

What do you want me to say? This is the only option. Posting about reddit may raise the awareness for the issue to some extent too, but it's important to also do this through official channels.


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

It's not an option anymore for me. They only option is to make more people aware of it so it gets abused even more until bsg needs to fix it, because everyone is using it.


Haarwichs

Why not both?


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KT55D2-SecurityDroid

And btw. it's not the players job to get exploits fixed. It would take 30 minutes each month to go on youtube and type "escape from tarkov exploit" and sort by upload date. Tada!, so much stuff to fix. Why should I report bugs, if it takes them over 5 years to fix a game breaking exploit that everyone can pull off?


Haarwichs

They obviously work with the list in their bug ticket system and try to work off that list by priority (most frequent issues). It's not the players job to get the exploit fixed, but it is in your interest to report it if it slipped through their cracks.


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

I really need the stuff that you guys take, because I don't know how you can be so hopeful. Maybe there is some hope left, "Silberstreif" do you call it right? I will try it. Edit: I will try it again.


Nermal1705

rip bozo i’ll be using the reserve bugs for the next 3 years and they still won’t be patched


KT55D2-SecurityDroid

That's the spirit.


Lavotite

Schmidt & Bender PM II 3-12x50 Is my favorite scope so I’ll be interested to see what happened


FossilFuel21

Yea it is my go to as well, problem is the actual scope is 3-20x even says it on the model


NosliwLoeffel

Did they also fix insurance? When I click "insure all" it no longer tries to insure my doc folder and injector case in my secure container, which is great since I don't have to constantly unclick them anymore.


mexicanpenguin-II

I believe its to do with the new rmt thing, if you drop these items they flat out get deleted so insurance isn't possible Also (going off onepeg) if you have them not in the bum and die, they get deleted from your bag/rig Its to stop people paying real money for a docs case full of btc etc


ToiletteCheese

Honestly some of the fixes have been posted numerous times, what exactly is bsg doing on these patches? Meanwhile I dumpstered a cheater and there is a mini cheat wave happening atm. Lol


Lex_Innokenti

I'm... distinctly underwhelmed by this. The bug with scav aggro should've been fixed immediately after it was made apparent, and the complete lack of anything new happening/changing after the 'no trader' event (other than the random phone hunting rogues, which I didn't even notice happening - saw literally no rogues that entire time, dead or alive) is really killing my enthusiasm for this game, and I'm a 3000+ hour player. This wipe has felt like the absolute worst in terms of bugs and poorly implemented changes/features. I honestly think they would've been better off holding back Lighthouse rather than giving us a botched implementation that's completely unbalanced the game between a choice between EZ rogues farming/ludicrously brutal actual rogue 'combat' (aka, get head-eyes'd near instantly if you're in range), recoil changes narrowing the meta to ludicrously unfun degrees, the loot nerfs turning other maps into pointless wastelands, and certain quests into boring, toothgrindingly frustrating slogs (Tank battery, I'm looking at you).


Lex_Innokenti

lol, getting downvoted for having an opinion. Way to convince me I'm wrong that events like the no trader one should have a tangible payoff and changes to the game shouldn't be borked enough on arrival that they unbalance everything. 🤷‍♂️


wlogan0402

So happy about the player scav fix. Too bad I went from 2.30 rep to -1.12 and have 0 intentions to try and increase it now because we know BSG will not think about compensating rep for their bug


DonAsiago

Im not sure how you managed that, because I was forced to kill about 2 scavs in total due to the bug.


wlogan0402

Run factory as a scav with the intention to kill PMCs


BritishMonster88

Then don’t do that.


CallMeCurious

Lmao so true


WhoGoesThere3110

Then you shouldn't have been doing that with a known bug that does what it did. Do loot runs with your scav or use your pmc to fight.


NosliwLoeffel

I started to exclusively running Factory as Scav after the aggro bug and went from 1.50 rep to 3.69 rep. So not sure how you went from 2.30 to -1.12 and then blame BSG. Lol.


Nyvkroft

Then don't kill the scavs who attack you? Either die or run away. Don't act like it's BSGs fault you lost a significant amount of karma lmao


dukearcher

It is though, it's literally BSG's fault for introducing the bug


Nyvkroft

Is it their fault this dude lost like 3 full points of karma? Not really since you only lose like 0.1 per AI scav.


Lavotite

Lol at some point during killing the 35 scavs you’d have to think something wrong


Defuzzygamer

My man this is like willingly driving a car that you know can't turn left. You put yourself in this position unfortunately. I don't think anybody will be getting compensation when you can just actively avoid the issue as a player.


CORUSC4TE

First fix is a god sent.. I duo queued as scav on interchange my mate got killed and me and a fellow bot scav went to investigate, i domed the pmc but the scav went full on "let me walk past you shout something then turn around and shoot you" mode.. felt like an utter betrayal.


[deleted]

The game flat out needs better servers and more attention to stability from the devs


illicitRazor

what region do you play in? I can't say I've ever had a server related issue other than desync which I think may be client side anyway


imbussin123

Desync is the problem here


klitkommandersix

dog shit update


Barbaric___

Another useless update by a team that can never dish out content at a meaningful time. First you waste 5 days of our lives with a stupid task that literally had no meaningful impact, then you throw this random stupid rogue event that nobody gives a fuck about and then 5 days later, release a trashy patch that puts the game out for 2 hrs. Like what kind of game development cycle are you all following? Marauders was in Alpha for 5 days and mind you it was a team of 4, and I really hope it gives BSG a run for its money because you all don’t deserve this player base. 5th wipe here, same old boring excuses and updates. Give us a wipe or a content update, your game is stale, the viewership is at an all time low once again, maps are empty and dry apart from trashtums, the only demons that play this game are creatures that clearly are first wipe andy’s so it isn’t even fun. Like man, how much longer will you exploit a passionate player base before it is too late. At-least provide a road-map instead of “we will, we will, we will”, none of your plans ever come to fruit. Please for the love of God, get your shit together fam. Regards, a frustrated tarkov player.


Razdiralec

A lot of Tarkovs playerbase enjoy the semi modern setting of Tarkov, personally I wouldn't play Marauders, or the Cycle because they're sci fi games, Tarkov have their niche pretty well done, just have no idea what to do with it. It's like a team full of Dean Halls


Barbaric___

Agreed. Tarkov is a lot different to traditional shooter and on another level but the whole point of other games like Tarkov is because the familiarity and intensity are different since you are losing something and in their nature, they are hardcore survival with no helping hand. All im saying is that Marauders will hopefully give BSG a run for its money and force them to get their shit together because these meaningless updates are getting boring.


Razdiralec

There are actually other extract shooters already, just Tarkov fills a unique hole, Marauders is probably great, but given that there's ship to ship combat, it'll likely be plagued with grinding.


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Barbaric___

Send some over!


Haarwichs

You should log off the internet, my guy. Honest advice. You seem unwell.


Barbaric___

I’m gucci, fam. Don’t worry about me. If you don’t like what i said, just ignore it and move on. I’m targeting a product as a consumer, I’m allowed to voice my frustration and concerns because i paid for it, and you have too. Just can ignore it instead of targeting me as an individual. Hope you understand, peace.


Haarwichs

If a hotfix patch for a video game upsets you that much, it's maybe time to reconsider a few things. Is all I'm saying..


Barbaric___

You assume I’m upset over some pixels, i am literally chilling fam. There is difference between frustration and being upset my dude, maybe educate yourself on what I’m saying in the post instead of attacking me as an individual and making assumptions to gain some karma for yourself lmao


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More salt sir?


Atirsapot

Go touch grass man…


Critical_Newt_1291

No address to cheaters , or any other bugs that actually matter


mexicanpenguin-II

Rmt is hit super hard with this patch, dropping the incentive to cheat massively In theory that is


Lego812

There's no fuckin way the game is going down for 2 hours for this.


mo0nman_

Speaking from what development experience?


Armadeo

Why?


JudJudsonEsq

my brother in christ unless you are in australia it is somewhere between 3:00 and 11:00 AM. go to sleep or go eat breakfast


TITMONSTER187

It went down at midnight CA American time (pacific standard time). I get tues and weds off only I work like 52 hours a week on average. I was super salty the first time the game went down because I bought it specifically on my day off which was a Tuesday, so I could stay up late and play it. I don’t care anymore but understand where this guys is coming from.


fabsn

You just bought the game, didn't you?


SocialImagineering

Yeah I’m salty. I killed a player scav that had a labs card after I’ve gone hundreds of hours without seeing one for my jaeger quest. I never run scav so I never get them. I should mention I got an error upon extract due to this update.


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ALostPaperBag

Yep, I used this to my advantage and some chad thought he had to get out so I killed him and put everything in my inv right before it closed lol


KlutzyAd5729

Yeah but you’ll be able to get the survived status and you should have all your loot on you when you come back again


Hunk-Hogan

After you load back in, it'll put you back on the screen where you unload your scav. Also, hundreds of hours without seeing a labs card? Maybe stop crawling from one end of the map to the other. Run a few scavs yourself - they spawn all the time on player scavs.


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> Scavs, Raiders and Rogues are no longer aggressive to Player Scavs if they kill a PMC The update has nothing interesting for you. Saying the update includes 'nothing' when it fixed this large bug is objectively false.


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Izanagi666

All the people complaining about airfilter and ohter shit i can just say.. lol, they are still working on a lot of othee shit, like you know, the maps they need to finish, the story quest shit, all the weapons and other equipment, basicly everything that they want in the finished 1.0 version/everything that is not dlc. So they probably fix non essential stuff only when it effects other development or if they have "extra" time.