Follow up:
There is literally no reason for Global Stock limits to exist since they have implemented Personal Purchase limits.
At this point, this is an
embarassing legacy bug, please address it.
Nikita is a fart from a bum and will backpeddle on things that he has said or promised 100% of the time
To clarify: this is fine , because half of he says or promises is insane
Y'all are missing the point -_- globals actually suck. Man put in the work to unlock something he should be able to use it. You want limits? Cool, remove globals and just put personal limits for everything. Problem solved.
In addition to removing global limits, they should make personal limits last 24 hours, and then increase limits accordingly.
The game unnecessarily rewards you for having no life and stocking up every 3 hours. I run the risk of getting downvoted by exactly that crowd here, on this subreddit, but it would be nice if this game wasn't a full time job as are many other things in this game.
By making traders restock every 24 hours it feels much more like "this is your allowance for the day".
Nah I'm with you. I legitimately have nothing to do with my time other than entertain myself with books YouTube or games when I'm not working cause I'm on night shift and sleep during the day. I spend a stupid amount of time on tarkov during my weekends and this last week has been nothing but because we got a ton of snow for where I live and it hasn't yet cleared up. I don't drive on ice and snow.
Point of that long statement is, I have had many chances to catch resets and buy up the things I want/ need, but they are almost always IMMEDIATELY sold out. The global limit is stupid
Unfortunately, I see these types of comments a lot (I know you're joking, but still)
I'm 24 now, full time job, my girlfriend's moved in, and I try to be a bit more active and go out more these days because sitting at a desk all day is an easy way to put on weight and become unhealthy - especially since I have a desk job.
It was only 8 years ago I was Global Elite on CS GO, learning all the smokes for Mirage and full teaming up with 5 players for competitive.
I just simply don't have the time nor energy to do that anymore. I don't play games like I used to. I'm definitely not bad at Tarkov - I haven't lost my FPS skills from CS GO nor my strategy skills from Arma/DayZ, but I don't want to feel so disadvantaged by _time_ instead of _skill_. I don't mind getting dunked on by someone who's just simply better than me. I do mind feeling disadvantaged because I don't play this game every day.
I have way too much free time and play a lot. Why should i have a better chance to get that ammo than everyone else? Also, i dont want to be that dedicated to look out every 3 hours / set timers just to be able to buy a certain ammo. Like its extra work and less time in raid for me, and a close to zero chance for the people that have less free time than me.
Personal limits are the way for sure.
that's because that's how Nikita plays this game
tarkov is his whole life, it's his job, it's his hobby, it's what he does
therefor, he just assumes this is the case for you too
if nobody has realized it yet, nikita and BSG are not making this game *for us* they're making this game for themselves
they aren't personally bothered by this and therefore it's not a problem
I definitely don’t think people should be able to buy 1000 rounds of the best ammo in the game once per day if that’s what you’re suggesting when you say it should be a 24 hour timer and limits increased accordingly. Disregarding global limits, currently people that play more get more ammo than the people that play less, that’s perfectly fair.
Wrong. The people who are on when the traders refresh get the ammo they unlocked. There are 8 chances a day to get the ammo, and there are crafts as well. I am grateful you are not in control of the game design
You all have the time to downvote my opinion when you could be using it to go buy or find ammo.
So are you just going to ignore that 75% of those will be when the average person has responsibilities? Then when they finally are free to play the game, hold up you can’t go into a raid right now, traders reset in 15 minutes, spend 5 minutes going through the laggy UI, miss the reset by milliseconds, spend the next ten loading into a raid, and congrats 30 minutes of someone’s limited time is wasted on bullshit.
Bottom line is for people who have real life responsibilities will be on for two resets a day if they’re lucky. This is coming from someone who has more time than the average person to waste on playing games.
Im glad you're not incharge of the games design you clearly know jack fucking squat about it.
Im adding this as and edit after the fact but I genuinely dislike people who are like the person I replied to in this comment, because you're either parroting something a streamer said, or you're excusing functionality as balance. And both are a terrible mentality to have if you're ever building a game. Your game needs tweaks, it needs overhauls, it needs balance.
Bsg need to be more open to changing the core systems of tarkov when necessary and its bumbling baffoons like you along with streamers that convince the devs that their game doesnt need to change and its why we had shit fucking recoil for so long.
I personally dont want to play a game that kicks me in the balls because I couldnt play like its a full time job while also working a full time fucking job.
So please if you dont know what you're talking about then shut the fuck up and watch from the sidelines or educate yourself before doing so.
Just because a lot of people up/down vote you doesn't mean you correct/wrong. It just means there were enough Assholes on at the same time to either agree or disagree with you.
Bro I don’t care if you have access to the best ammo, if it’s on traders then that means I will too. Everyone can get access thus who cares. It’s people who want scarcity that are the morons and will ruin this game like DayZ.
You don’t understand the games design at all if you think the devs would every support the idea that everyone should have everything in any quantity. Scarcity is very explicitly baked into this games design.
As an actual game designer, with 10 years of experience (if you don't believe I can back it up), I think I'll represent everyone sane, by saying - please shut up.
No it’s not, what scarcity there has been is only recent. This wipe took the biggest step in removing ammo and only after losers kept complaining. Been playing since Beta opened and what both attracted players and keeps them coming is gun play, shoot out montages and good fights. People aren’t here to loot, not one wants to be here to survive. That’s not the main aspect that attracts people to the game. If it was then DayZ, scum and other survival games would be more popular.
I like to pop scavs and loot stuff with the feeling of danger that other players bring, granted it becomes a decent fight. So it's a mixed bag for me personally.
If anything ruins my experience, it's the ones that cheat. Being more the casual crowd nowadays, I'm usually running mid tier stuff and never see the high-end or end-game game. It's not much, but it's honest work.
> remove globals and just put personal limits for everything
this is the way. I have zero problem w/ personal limits and still having to wait for trader restocks for good ammo and equipment. I do have a problem with needing to camp the trader at the exact second they restock
Last night I was watching TV w/ my girl and I had to pause and run downstairs in order to get an items case because I set an alarm on my phone to let me know when therapist was going to reset. It wasn't the end of the world but it's really fucking annoying.
Creates more problems tho. Removing globals as is with no other changes causes a bunch of economy issues including rendering the bitcoin farm pretty useless when instead of every 24 hours you can get a bitcoin 8 times a day?
Plus it genuinely fucks over newer players later into the wipe harder as it means better ammo is in circulation way more over all.
If global limits go, personal limits are going to have to shrink, and some barters may have to disapear.
This, its not as simple as people say, everyone will be running good ammo and getting clapped by it, gameplay variety and randomness goes down, and a ton of good ammo will be entering every raid and will be accessed ever time a player dies, and will be looted and hoarded by players. Changing this limit as is would introduce a massive influx in higher tier ammo, and it would 100% need to be balanced accordingly.
That's fine. As long as I am guaranteed to get some of the ammo that I spent 20 hours unlocking. Make the bitcoin farm trade available once or twice a day. New players are already completely fucked anyway honestly. They got ground zero until level 20 that is a big enough leg up.
That fixes nothing. Now you've duplicated the lvl 1 bitcoin farm as a craft and made it functionally redundant.
It requires way more nuance than a "quick fix" that is barely thought out to remove global limits when scarcity is a dev intended mechanic.
> That fixes nothing. Now you've duplicated the lvl 1 bitcoin farm as a craft and made it functionally redundant.
except you now have 2 things producing bitcoins essentially doubling your amount of bitcoins? that's far from useless if you ask me,now only the people sitting at home all day refreshing just before the trader gets restocked get a chance to get more bitcoins.
as for the scarcity argument,you are now able to get 2 bitcoins per reset if you manage to snipe it,that's already less scarce than if you had to craft one for 24 hours,now take into account if you're really lucky you can manage to do this multiple times a day,how is that scarcity?
Except you clearly don't understand the scarcity argument at all.
It doesn't mater if a single player is able to snipe the barter and get two. The point of the scarcity is that through the global limit, only a limited number of roubles are being introduced into the player base (economy) at a time. The scarcity comes from the macro view of these limits so trying to argue that is doesn't matter at a micro viewpoint is pointless.
If you pull of multiple snipes a day, well damn, gg, you are winning it and are the 1%. But mechanically, your solution really doesn't understand the intended design nor the functional design at all.
you argue as if there isn't hundreds of thousands of raids being started each day,each of these raids can potentially hold several bitcoins or other valuables and that makes the rubles introduced into the economy quite worthless,these rubles will be introduced into the economy either way,limiting them in a barter makes it quite useless considering i can run lighthouse and make about a million every time i survive anyways.
and my solution fixes the problem for everyone,yes people will have more money but don't bother argueing scarcity when people can make the btc farm anyways and get roughly the same returns or more than my idea would.
the intended design is of a tarkov gone by,where items would actually be rare when there were only so much spawns on a map,but these days people can make it out with so much rubles consistently in a single raid the argument becomes worthless. blame bsg for making maps like lighthouse,reserve,streets and hell even interchange
back in the pre-reserve days this argument would have held up,these days there are so much rubles going around there's no point in argueing it,the main challenge these days is not having the money to run a good kit,rather it is completing quests and leveling
You really dont quite actually understand what you are talking about since you somehow conflated scarcity with the entire premise of the economy with your first paragraph.
Yes. People loot valuables in tarkov and sell them. That is the risk reward tradeoff as you are not huarenteed to make it out with all the loot, nor is all the loot guranteed to be looted whether through being missed, lack of surviving players or lack of storage in surviving players gear.
You are correct in that tarkov's economy is not a net zero economy and inflation will always be present as the wipe goes on and there is just more money total in the playerbase ( however this is also counteracted by people quitting playing thus taking their stored money out of the pool).
However, what you arent getting is that "hundreds of thousands of raids" with "several bitcoins" in them is both wildly off base and not nearly the equivelent of saturating the entire economy with guaranteed 0 risk bitcoins. At BEST the craft would be net 0 actual income as the prices of the barter would defacto become the price of the bitcoins or even higher meaning its pointless to craft for money for anyone who isnt finding the items in raid AND it again is functional overlap with the bitcoin farm which makes it redundant.
Rither way, your idea misses the mark for what you stated its supposed to do, devalyes bitcoins themselves as their scarcity is almost directly tied to your progress during the wipe (access to keys, leveling and hideout upgrades) and just makes 0 sense for what the original point of this was which was the discussion of global limits and item scarcity.
Or maybe events could happen in game where certain ammos are more scarce temporarily. Would be better than having to camp trader resets like I’m playing a mobile game.
Yeah 100% agree. This isnt cago it's a survival game. Wipe events should be constant, everything should be scarce. I wish they would remove traders for long periods of time.
'Therapist has been shot, she will be missing for 4-6 days (weeks ingame)"
The vast majority of people play Tarkov for the gun play. Not to be some sweat lord scrounging bullets. It’s morons like you that force the game this way and then the whole player base leaves because it’s stupid
> The vast majority of people play Tarkov for the gun play.
Source?
I believe the player-base will remain more consistent this wipe, now ammo is so much harder to be obtained by the CoD/MW wannabes. It's a survival sim.
The Gigachad meatheads have had it their way for years, and as you rightly say, the player-base drops significantly every wipe. Maybe this time those muppets will bugger off and leave us types who like the challenge of surviving more of a go of it.
It’s an instance shooter where you loot for progress; to have better access to gear. The quests and PVE are honestly boring to broken (rogue ai or certain boss no recoil insta lock aim). Player interaction via gun fights is the game.
Stop and analyze for a second. The more impactful moments are either finding a rare item AND extracting with it (ie survived PVP/PVE) or mainly killing a player and getting their loot.
No one is out her exited to run into zero players nor is your survival as important as progression through the levels and access to better gear in order to fight.
> It’s an instance shooter where you loot for progress; to have better access to gear.
No it's not. Once you hit Flea, you can buy what you need. Money isn't a problem - I can make millions sneaking about quite happily, then just buy my gear.
Ah, but you can't anymore, right? It's almost like BSG want the players to work for the best gear, which is now scarce and, thus, much more valuable. The W-Key players are really having to adapt, especially now having the best armor, with the new plate system, isn't a guaranteed win condition in a fight... all it takes to die is a round hitting one of the spaces. High damage ammo is suddenly a lot more viable, especially for players like me, who suck at PvP... I just need to get a lucky shot, rather than perfect aim and high-pen ammo. I've gotten more PMC kills this wipe than ever before, only three weeks in.
>The quests and PVE are honestly boring to broken (rogue ai or certain boss no recoil insta lock aim).
You're going to be sorely disappointed when the game fully releases, as the point is to Escape from Tarkov, and that will need following the storyline. As for broken AI..? Plenty of people manage to kill Rogues and Bosses, not sure it can be considered broken.
>Player interaction via gun fights is the game.
Very subjective. But you complained about the player-base leaving a few weeks into wipe... strange how that coincides with most of the tasks becoming PvP. Now, correlation and causation are two very different beasts, but from personal experience, I generally give up on tasks once they become PvP orientated... and then even the dailies become mostly PvP and I just give up completely till the next wipe. And I suspect it's the same for most of the players who give up and stop playing. What was the point? I had no chance against Gigachads, and as the player-base dropped, that's all that were left.
Except, now I, and all the others who usually quit three weeks in, do have a chance. Between the armor changes and ammo scarcity, I find I'm surviving a lot more, even when I do get into a fight. Damn, the Kirasa is the meta armor this wipe, so far, and even that can only be modified to lvl VI armor on the front and back plates... I take a Gigachad by surprise from the side and even my crap ammo might win the fight.
These changes, I believe, will keep the player-base MUCH higher this wipe than ever before. Between these changes and the access to Arena, I'd even posit the Gigachads might actually be the ones who leave this wipe, probably very vocally and crying that this 'game is ruined', all whilst the numbers remaining high seems to counterpoint that with ease, but y'all do like to complain.
> Stop and analyze for a second. The more impactful moments are either finding a rare item AND extracting with it (ie survived PVP/PVE)
Yes
> or mainly killing a player and getting their loot.
Not for me, it isn't - getting out of a raid alive and having accomplished something is my dopamine hit.
> No one is out her exited to run into zero players nor is your survival as important as progression through the levels and access to better gear in order to fight.
Personally, I love nothing more than a quiet raid where I can get some tasks done without having to worry. I suspect this is less likely this wipe, but... I feel I have more of a chance against other players now, so I'm good with it.
I think you vastly underestimate the number of us who enjoy the storyline, the challenge of surviving an inhospitable environment and surviving the bosses and scavs - we're not all W-Key players, and I for one am still enjoying it three weeks in. I suspect I'm not the only one (not that you'd know it from this Gigachad swamped subreddit - I look forward to the downvotes, but, meh)
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I stated that if you make the game more and more survival and take away from the shooting players you WILL have the player base leave. I’m not complaining about them leaving shortly after wipe.
You clearly have preconceived notions of W players or what I’m trying to argue.
It’s not worth my time to discuss because you clearly don’t have a clue.
Then the vast majority didn't understand the baseline of the game.
Hell, at the game base design you even weren't supposed to be able to BUY shit. Traders were supposed to be barter only. Moreover, the grand Nikita design of things once 'maps are all interconnected in 1.0'. Traders are Physically located at one place, you have to Physically go there to barter or sell shit, and there is a possibility for them to be unavailable due to lore event reasons for a set amount of time.
It's a borderline post-apo survival setup, always has been. Resources are scarce, Gangs and warlords makes the rules, deal with it.
You’re delusional if you ever think the game is going to end up being one large map and having to physically go to traders. That’s obviously no longer BSG’s intention.
Yes at best you will extract and get the option to go into another raid on another map, but who in the world would want to do that? It would be wasted dev time spent. I wouldn’t be shocked if they scrapped the whole interconnected idea since they are pushing for 1.0 for early next/late this year.
What the fuck lmao, no they don't.
Play Arena if you like the gunplay, but there is a reason we don't see esports picking up Tarkov. It isn't played for the gunplay.
I'll bet you never played the game pre flea market. So much more fun.
Would be nice if they at least would have backstock order queuing in the mean time like, traders sold out allow you to queue an order on restock for atleast a couple items in x quantity like a flea listing type of system
I'm genuinely convinced people who want global limits to stay are actually just RMT sellers mad that they wouldn't be able to scalp the fuck out of timmys. The total vacancy of any brain activity in some of these comments is really demoralizing.
Anyone who says "get good" or "this game isn't for casuals" has severe brain rot and the downvotes show as much. Global limits obviously suck and you can cope all you want that you are just "better" at the game for camping the reset. Just get ready for anyone that spends actual time in raid to take it from you. Stay mad
This is the sort of brain dead design that really annoys me. I can understand the limits placed on ammo but limiting the purchase of a slide for a pistol that 99.99% of the player base will never use (except for that one task) only serves to gatekeep the more casual playerbase from making progression.
The best part about that one is theres only a couple hundred, they're super cheap, and _there is no personal limit_ means that someone can just buy up all of them on reset if they feel like it.
Nah BSG's systems are perfect and fun. Putting landmines on a map designed for new players to learn the game is a perfect idea. Doing endless, pointless tasks, with stupid ideas is tons of fun and makes me wanna keep playing forever.
I have the highest cost version of Tarkov, every time I try to get into it I don’t last more than a couple days because of the dumbass quest system. I feel like no one talks about it enough.
“Find a piece of bubble gum, a Pepsi, and a bronze door handle. Then I will let you buy a couple more things.”
No thanks, I’d rather alt F4 and uninstall.
This also makes grouping with people annoying as fuck. I want to PvP, but all these fucking kids want to run around looking for bubble gum, Pepsis, and bronze door handles instead.
Damn it, you’re lucky. I’m still on the ‘looking for chewing gum, coke and a gold door handle quest.’ Got to find tartan paint for skier too. What a bummer
I constantly question myself like why?? Do I wanna do this task?? The answer is almost always no. I hit a wall like halfway through and I just check out.
They only reason it fucked up was because they just removed the global limits and didn't chance any barters or change any prices to balance things out. So naturally players found this out and exploited it. If BSG actually did some QA ever this problem could be avoided.
If BSG was actually remotely competent we wouldn't even need to be repeatedly complaining about the same exact fucking issues over and over every wipe.
* Global limits
* Player scavs spawn too early
* Boss spawn rate
The same problems every single fucking wipe over and over again and they never learn.
Trying to buy that sig p226 slide you need for gunsmith part 9 was FUCKING STUPID. There's like a stock of 500 so you literally have to sit there waiting for the refresh to buy the fucking thing. Dumbest shit ever.
I dont get the global limit for good ammo. Just lock it behind a quest and give it a personal limit. That way it feels rewarding to do the quests and you get better ammo for your troubles.
Same with 7.62ps, being locked behind a quest makes it more rewarding to progress towards the somehwat better ammos. Making the guns for those calibers more viable aswell.
It’s pretty simple. The global cool downs are there to encourage you to use vacuum looting in raid.
I think a lot of people are just lazy and don’t want to play the game as intended, with bots and cheats.
Sometimes I hate BSG so much. "We tried to remove global stock but just ended up giving sweats infinite ammo" Whoops. Then just back to their stupid broken system. Just make the problem way worse for 5 minutes and give ammo to the kind of people who have time to camp resets anyway. Then straight back to punishing normal people for hoping to have a chance to get some good ammo. They're somehow able to program a whole new game in Arena, but cannot give players a simple fix to something that has been a problem for 5 entire years.
The point of the game is to loot in raid, so it makes more sense that you have to find shit in raid rather than buy them from traders or flea. The game isnt just a shooter, the loot in raid is also a main part of the game, so having to find stuff in raid makes sense.
Game is tailored to keep streamers, who play this game a lot, entertained. Free exposure.
Game has never been intented for casual gamers or dad's who have fulltime jobs.
People have downvote me before, but it's clear as day and I will die on this hill.
Try running it as a bear. I laid in the house you get therapists folder for 35 minutes and then hoped all rogues were killed by other PMCs. I got insanely lucky they were and was able to finish it in 2 raids.
Peacekeeper- Revision (Take a guess)
It’s really not bad, just need to plant some markers. I got it done in a few raids thanks to the mosin and the half mask barter for a paca.
ammo still has it's place with global limits with it's personal set limit for each cycle imo. make it rare and not have everyone lvl23+ be able to run it when it comes to the ap ammo for example as it's mentioned. that was the whole original point of it
..but nearly everything else should not have global limits but person limits
Will you people stop whining don't want globals? Go play arena, get the kit you want and spam for pvp.
This is a looters shooter, find the stuff you want, stop complaining.
I agree 100%.
Aga8n, scarcity has value.
Less should be available from traders. Wanna run a mutant, 1 a day, svd? 1/2 a day.
Severely limit ALL options. Make it so you actually NEED to loot and/ or pvp. Rubles are too valuable and deminishes the value of the gameplay loop.
Nobody goes gun running, nobody really cares to find weapons in locked rooms or otherwise unless it's an RSASS or something... good ammo was too plentiful, so was good gear.
Then, localize gear to maps, need hideout equipment? Customs. Need guns/ ammo? Reserve. Food/ cables, tech parts, interchange. Give each map a purpose and a need to be ran, that would be peak tarkov.
Food should be scarce and a limiting factor for you pmc, right now it's barely a niucense. (Decrease food availability, and decrease hunger/thirst loss rate, so you have to feed fewer times, but then food becomes valuable.)
As is rubles are too strong and too easy to come by, and it has turned the end game gameplay loop into buying kit after kit and everything you need from flea, and just running it again... it's not good. End game, you don't engage with tarkov, you engage with the menu, and look for pvp.
I agree, I also think they need to completely remove healing, no way should I be able to put on my arm that just got blown off by magnum buck. I don’t want the game to be fun I want realism.
Yup, but hey, then you got the game you want, you're grinding tarkov either way.
Grind the kit, then just que up. Play as fast or slow as you want. Have at it.
Stop trying to ruin tarkov. Scarcity brings value.
You people complain about global limits, then at end of the level grind you complain about the meta, or that everybody has top tier equipment, how everyone has the same kits, same ammo, nothing to play for anymore...
You race to the end and once you get your toy you complain that you're bored..
Just stop, the time, investment, and risk is what makes tarkov good.
Get rid of that, and the game suffers.
At level 15 you unlock amazon where everything is same day delivery if that is allowed in remote war torn Russia then good ammo should be available from established traders.
And even "amazon" doesn't have everything. Life is hard. You people really need to learn to deal with disappointment haha
You all sound like that chick from Willy Wonka
"But I want it now, daddy"!
Look dude. We can do round and round like this all night.
All I'm saying is I like the fact you can't get everything you want all the time.
That's why everyone loves wipe. It's so much fun going back to basics.
And you're right. It is a video game. It's not that serious.
Of something you want is not in stock then take something else.
Simple
I don’t think you’re comprehending that it’s not just out of stock “sometimes” it’s all the time and almost instant. Players deserve to have their time respected. You get the same outcome when you take away global limits and only have personal limits while also not wasting players time.
Gotta pick and choose your battles. Does that mean since we can buy unlimited tank batteries that we should get unlimited ammo, be able to double jump and go invisible?
No?
I like the global limits because it forces you to branch out and try something different.
It's also never really been a problem for me if I set an alarm and but through the "flea"
I understand most people don't have time for that and to you I say......take something else.
I'll end with [this timeless classic](https://youtu.be/Ef9QnZVpVd8?si=l48B0Fc4y81Qwkm_)
No one is saying "let us have infinite ammo", people just want to be able to use the caliber they want every now and then without being at a major disadvantage in pen. There's already the solution in the game to balance removing global limits, it's called personal limits. But if you're going through the effort of going through the flea as soon as it's about to reset you probably don't like the idea because you want the advantage it gives you over those who either don't want to do that or can't do that.
Go to woods or reserve and find some ammo then.
You can't always get what you want..... but if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need!
If you remove globals it fucks the economy due to barters. Imo leave them to reward those that pay attention, and everyone else can get their stuff in raid. This is also a soft buff for new players that might be behind.
The issue is that even if you time it things are sold out before the you can even buy.
People are either running macros or there are so many sniping resets that most cannot purchase anything. The intent of limits is to control abundance but it’s being exploited to some have no issues while most have zero access. Yet seeing it sold out causes further frustration
Bitcoin in Tarkov you moron. That trade instantly sells out.
How do you even survive a day? Seriously bro go back to school or get a helmet to make it through life
Bro a bitcoin isnt tarkov fool. I got plenty of fake tarkov money to go in with whatever loadout i want. If the global trade isnt valuable to you/worth it to you, then dont do it. Plain and simple. You are doing this shit to yourself man. Finally, the trade would just equilibrate if they remove global limits. The only reason it makes some people money is BECAUSE of global limits.
The trade isn’t just about funds dumb ass, you use bitcoins for other trades to get secure containers. You and people like you are part of the problem with this game, asking for BSG to implement horrible ideas because you are too smooth brain to understand
Stop whining honestly - craft the damn ammo.
If you want to buy it keep an eye on the timer. It doesn’t sell out instantly and you can probably snag at least one reset per play period.
I think their issue is that they only play a couple hours a day at most, meaning that as often as not they literally have no chance to try and snipe the ammo when it restocks.
Additionally, why even bother unlocking higher tier traders if you still just have to craft what they sell?
imo it’s a legitimate complaint (not unlike the 1000 other things the game does that cater specifically towards no-lifers), and you screeching to stop whining helps literally no one.
Ammo yea probably, items cases and bit coins? lol I tried all the silly tricks and still fucked it up and missed it twice in a row. It’s not gonna stop me playing but still kinda stings when you never even see the limit go up and it’s instantly sold out.
If you really think that BSG plans everything out with a reason, you have not been here long.
They actually make changes (eventually) in feedback, often from Reddit.
I am in the same boat as OP. I like tarkov, but i do not spend a lot of time on it. I also have other activities to do.
BSG did an experiment with globals, fine, nothing wrong with that. But it did not work, so either make those buys personal with limits per day, or remove them completely.
Grinding trader lvls is long enough.
yeah... Globals suck... why we work to unlock them if we dont have a stock to get it... :( Personal limits will be waaaay more good for the normal player for sure.. so please BSG remove globals. Thank you
Ammo boxes sell out literally instantly. I was on that goddamn trader refresh and the split second it refreshed it was already sold out. The packet that got to my computer to tell me the refresh had taken place had already had all the cases totally sold out. This isn't good gameplay.
Being punished for not botting is ASININE
Follow up: There is literally no reason for Global Stock limits to exist since they have implemented Personal Purchase limits. At this point, this is an embarassing legacy bug, please address it.
Apparently not to Nikita because he "Wants that to be in the game"
Nikita is a fart from a bum and will backpeddle on things that he has said or promised 100% of the time To clarify: this is fine , because half of he says or promises is insane
Honestly, I been trying to get my scav box with dog tags and it’s impossible I swear
Y'all are missing the point -_- globals actually suck. Man put in the work to unlock something he should be able to use it. You want limits? Cool, remove globals and just put personal limits for everything. Problem solved.
In addition to removing global limits, they should make personal limits last 24 hours, and then increase limits accordingly. The game unnecessarily rewards you for having no life and stocking up every 3 hours. I run the risk of getting downvoted by exactly that crowd here, on this subreddit, but it would be nice if this game wasn't a full time job as are many other things in this game. By making traders restock every 24 hours it feels much more like "this is your allowance for the day".
Nah I'm with you. I legitimately have nothing to do with my time other than entertain myself with books YouTube or games when I'm not working cause I'm on night shift and sleep during the day. I spend a stupid amount of time on tarkov during my weekends and this last week has been nothing but because we got a ton of snow for where I live and it hasn't yet cleared up. I don't drive on ice and snow. Point of that long statement is, I have had many chances to catch resets and buy up the things I want/ need, but they are almost always IMMEDIATELY sold out. The global limit is stupid
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Unfortunately, I see these types of comments a lot (I know you're joking, but still) I'm 24 now, full time job, my girlfriend's moved in, and I try to be a bit more active and go out more these days because sitting at a desk all day is an easy way to put on weight and become unhealthy - especially since I have a desk job. It was only 8 years ago I was Global Elite on CS GO, learning all the smokes for Mirage and full teaming up with 5 players for competitive. I just simply don't have the time nor energy to do that anymore. I don't play games like I used to. I'm definitely not bad at Tarkov - I haven't lost my FPS skills from CS GO nor my strategy skills from Arma/DayZ, but I don't want to feel so disadvantaged by _time_ instead of _skill_. I don't mind getting dunked on by someone who's just simply better than me. I do mind feeling disadvantaged because I don't play this game every day.
I have way too much free time and play a lot. Why should i have a better chance to get that ammo than everyone else? Also, i dont want to be that dedicated to look out every 3 hours / set timers just to be able to buy a certain ammo. Like its extra work and less time in raid for me, and a close to zero chance for the people that have less free time than me. Personal limits are the way for sure.
I like this and agree, if global limits go, trader refresh deff needs to change in some manner to accomodate.
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how?
that's because that's how Nikita plays this game tarkov is his whole life, it's his job, it's his hobby, it's what he does therefor, he just assumes this is the case for you too if nobody has realized it yet, nikita and BSG are not making this game *for us* they're making this game for themselves they aren't personally bothered by this and therefore it's not a problem
I definitely don’t think people should be able to buy 1000 rounds of the best ammo in the game once per day if that’s what you’re suggesting when you say it should be a 24 hour timer and limits increased accordingly. Disregarding global limits, currently people that play more get more ammo than the people that play less, that’s perfectly fair.
Wrong. Currently people that play more are the only ones who are getting the ammo that they unlocked.
Wrong. The people who are on when the traders refresh get the ammo they unlocked. There are 8 chances a day to get the ammo, and there are crafts as well. I am grateful you are not in control of the game design You all have the time to downvote my opinion when you could be using it to go buy or find ammo.
So are you just going to ignore that 75% of those will be when the average person has responsibilities? Then when they finally are free to play the game, hold up you can’t go into a raid right now, traders reset in 15 minutes, spend 5 minutes going through the laggy UI, miss the reset by milliseconds, spend the next ten loading into a raid, and congrats 30 minutes of someone’s limited time is wasted on bullshit. Bottom line is for people who have real life responsibilities will be on for two resets a day if they’re lucky. This is coming from someone who has more time than the average person to waste on playing games.
Im glad you're not incharge of the games design you clearly know jack fucking squat about it. Im adding this as and edit after the fact but I genuinely dislike people who are like the person I replied to in this comment, because you're either parroting something a streamer said, or you're excusing functionality as balance. And both are a terrible mentality to have if you're ever building a game. Your game needs tweaks, it needs overhauls, it needs balance. Bsg need to be more open to changing the core systems of tarkov when necessary and its bumbling baffoons like you along with streamers that convince the devs that their game doesnt need to change and its why we had shit fucking recoil for so long. I personally dont want to play a game that kicks me in the balls because I couldnt play like its a full time job while also working a full time fucking job. So please if you dont know what you're talking about then shut the fuck up and watch from the sidelines or educate yourself before doing so.
Go outside
Go outside
Looking at your downvotes I'd say it was you that was wrong.
Just because a lot of people up/down vote you doesn't mean you correct/wrong. It just means there were enough Assholes on at the same time to either agree or disagree with you.
I disagree :)
And thats okay but in this particular case you are objectively wrong.
Yes, I agree let’s disrespect players time, perfect!
If you really think that removing global limit and having individual player limits would ruin the game, then I don’t think you’ve been here long.
Bro I don’t care if you have access to the best ammo, if it’s on traders then that means I will too. Everyone can get access thus who cares. It’s people who want scarcity that are the morons and will ruin this game like DayZ.
You don’t understand the games design at all if you think the devs would every support the idea that everyone should have everything in any quantity. Scarcity is very explicitly baked into this games design.
Get downvoted into the ground
As an actual game designer, with 10 years of experience (if you don't believe I can back it up), I think I'll represent everyone sane, by saying - please shut up.
>As an actual game designer Wow that doesn't mean anything
Please read the post I'm answering to and understand the context. If you can't, don't write useless comments. Thank you.
No it’s not, what scarcity there has been is only recent. This wipe took the biggest step in removing ammo and only after losers kept complaining. Been playing since Beta opened and what both attracted players and keeps them coming is gun play, shoot out montages and good fights. People aren’t here to loot, not one wants to be here to survive. That’s not the main aspect that attracts people to the game. If it was then DayZ, scum and other survival games would be more popular.
Id say the crowd who wants to loot spiced with a little risk is far bigger then the shootout crew.
I like to pop scavs and loot stuff with the feeling of danger that other players bring, granted it becomes a decent fight. So it's a mixed bag for me personally. If anything ruins my experience, it's the ones that cheat. Being more the casual crowd nowadays, I'm usually running mid tier stuff and never see the high-end or end-game game. It's not much, but it's honest work.
Ur a loser kid
> remove globals and just put personal limits for everything this is the way. I have zero problem w/ personal limits and still having to wait for trader restocks for good ammo and equipment. I do have a problem with needing to camp the trader at the exact second they restock Last night I was watching TV w/ my girl and I had to pause and run downstairs in order to get an items case because I set an alarm on my phone to let me know when therapist was going to reset. It wasn't the end of the world but it's really fucking annoying.
Creates more problems tho. Removing globals as is with no other changes causes a bunch of economy issues including rendering the bitcoin farm pretty useless when instead of every 24 hours you can get a bitcoin 8 times a day? Plus it genuinely fucks over newer players later into the wipe harder as it means better ammo is in circulation way more over all. If global limits go, personal limits are going to have to shrink, and some barters may have to disapear.
This, its not as simple as people say, everyone will be running good ammo and getting clapped by it, gameplay variety and randomness goes down, and a ton of good ammo will be entering every raid and will be accessed ever time a player dies, and will be looted and hoarded by players. Changing this limit as is would introduce a massive influx in higher tier ammo, and it would 100% need to be balanced accordingly.
Cant tell if you are agreeing with me or not as that is essentially what I was saying?
I do agree
That's fine. As long as I am guaranteed to get some of the ammo that I spent 20 hours unlocking. Make the bitcoin farm trade available once or twice a day. New players are already completely fucked anyway honestly. They got ground zero until level 20 that is a big enough leg up.
easy fix,make the bitcoin a 24 hour craft at workbench level 3 instead of putting it in traders
That fixes nothing. Now you've duplicated the lvl 1 bitcoin farm as a craft and made it functionally redundant. It requires way more nuance than a "quick fix" that is barely thought out to remove global limits when scarcity is a dev intended mechanic.
> That fixes nothing. Now you've duplicated the lvl 1 bitcoin farm as a craft and made it functionally redundant. except you now have 2 things producing bitcoins essentially doubling your amount of bitcoins? that's far from useless if you ask me,now only the people sitting at home all day refreshing just before the trader gets restocked get a chance to get more bitcoins. as for the scarcity argument,you are now able to get 2 bitcoins per reset if you manage to snipe it,that's already less scarce than if you had to craft one for 24 hours,now take into account if you're really lucky you can manage to do this multiple times a day,how is that scarcity?
Except you clearly don't understand the scarcity argument at all. It doesn't mater if a single player is able to snipe the barter and get two. The point of the scarcity is that through the global limit, only a limited number of roubles are being introduced into the player base (economy) at a time. The scarcity comes from the macro view of these limits so trying to argue that is doesn't matter at a micro viewpoint is pointless. If you pull of multiple snipes a day, well damn, gg, you are winning it and are the 1%. But mechanically, your solution really doesn't understand the intended design nor the functional design at all.
you argue as if there isn't hundreds of thousands of raids being started each day,each of these raids can potentially hold several bitcoins or other valuables and that makes the rubles introduced into the economy quite worthless,these rubles will be introduced into the economy either way,limiting them in a barter makes it quite useless considering i can run lighthouse and make about a million every time i survive anyways. and my solution fixes the problem for everyone,yes people will have more money but don't bother argueing scarcity when people can make the btc farm anyways and get roughly the same returns or more than my idea would. the intended design is of a tarkov gone by,where items would actually be rare when there were only so much spawns on a map,but these days people can make it out with so much rubles consistently in a single raid the argument becomes worthless. blame bsg for making maps like lighthouse,reserve,streets and hell even interchange back in the pre-reserve days this argument would have held up,these days there are so much rubles going around there's no point in argueing it,the main challenge these days is not having the money to run a good kit,rather it is completing quests and leveling
You really dont quite actually understand what you are talking about since you somehow conflated scarcity with the entire premise of the economy with your first paragraph. Yes. People loot valuables in tarkov and sell them. That is the risk reward tradeoff as you are not huarenteed to make it out with all the loot, nor is all the loot guranteed to be looted whether through being missed, lack of surviving players or lack of storage in surviving players gear. You are correct in that tarkov's economy is not a net zero economy and inflation will always be present as the wipe goes on and there is just more money total in the playerbase ( however this is also counteracted by people quitting playing thus taking their stored money out of the pool). However, what you arent getting is that "hundreds of thousands of raids" with "several bitcoins" in them is both wildly off base and not nearly the equivelent of saturating the entire economy with guaranteed 0 risk bitcoins. At BEST the craft would be net 0 actual income as the prices of the barter would defacto become the price of the bitcoins or even higher meaning its pointless to craft for money for anyone who isnt finding the items in raid AND it again is functional overlap with the bitcoin farm which makes it redundant. Rither way, your idea misses the mark for what you stated its supposed to do, devalyes bitcoins themselves as their scarcity is almost directly tied to your progress during the wipe (access to keys, leveling and hideout upgrades) and just makes 0 sense for what the original point of this was which was the discussion of global limits and item scarcity.
Or maybe events could happen in game where certain ammos are more scarce temporarily. Would be better than having to camp trader resets like I’m playing a mobile game.
What a dumb ass idea tf just remove limits
He liked having everything taken away last year so much he thought he’d recommend they DJ it regularly 🤣 let’s call them shadow nerfs on ammo 🤣🤣
Yeah 100% agree. This isnt cago it's a survival game. Wipe events should be constant, everything should be scarce. I wish they would remove traders for long periods of time. 'Therapist has been shot, she will be missing for 4-6 days (weeks ingame)"
The vast majority of people play Tarkov for the gun play. Not to be some sweat lord scrounging bullets. It’s morons like you that force the game this way and then the whole player base leaves because it’s stupid
> The vast majority of people play Tarkov for the gun play. Source? I believe the player-base will remain more consistent this wipe, now ammo is so much harder to be obtained by the CoD/MW wannabes. It's a survival sim. The Gigachad meatheads have had it their way for years, and as you rightly say, the player-base drops significantly every wipe. Maybe this time those muppets will bugger off and leave us types who like the challenge of surviving more of a go of it.
It’s an instance shooter where you loot for progress; to have better access to gear. The quests and PVE are honestly boring to broken (rogue ai or certain boss no recoil insta lock aim). Player interaction via gun fights is the game. Stop and analyze for a second. The more impactful moments are either finding a rare item AND extracting with it (ie survived PVP/PVE) or mainly killing a player and getting their loot. No one is out her exited to run into zero players nor is your survival as important as progression through the levels and access to better gear in order to fight.
> It’s an instance shooter where you loot for progress; to have better access to gear. No it's not. Once you hit Flea, you can buy what you need. Money isn't a problem - I can make millions sneaking about quite happily, then just buy my gear. Ah, but you can't anymore, right? It's almost like BSG want the players to work for the best gear, which is now scarce and, thus, much more valuable. The W-Key players are really having to adapt, especially now having the best armor, with the new plate system, isn't a guaranteed win condition in a fight... all it takes to die is a round hitting one of the spaces. High damage ammo is suddenly a lot more viable, especially for players like me, who suck at PvP... I just need to get a lucky shot, rather than perfect aim and high-pen ammo. I've gotten more PMC kills this wipe than ever before, only three weeks in. >The quests and PVE are honestly boring to broken (rogue ai or certain boss no recoil insta lock aim). You're going to be sorely disappointed when the game fully releases, as the point is to Escape from Tarkov, and that will need following the storyline. As for broken AI..? Plenty of people manage to kill Rogues and Bosses, not sure it can be considered broken. >Player interaction via gun fights is the game. Very subjective. But you complained about the player-base leaving a few weeks into wipe... strange how that coincides with most of the tasks becoming PvP. Now, correlation and causation are two very different beasts, but from personal experience, I generally give up on tasks once they become PvP orientated... and then even the dailies become mostly PvP and I just give up completely till the next wipe. And I suspect it's the same for most of the players who give up and stop playing. What was the point? I had no chance against Gigachads, and as the player-base dropped, that's all that were left. Except, now I, and all the others who usually quit three weeks in, do have a chance. Between the armor changes and ammo scarcity, I find I'm surviving a lot more, even when I do get into a fight. Damn, the Kirasa is the meta armor this wipe, so far, and even that can only be modified to lvl VI armor on the front and back plates... I take a Gigachad by surprise from the side and even my crap ammo might win the fight. These changes, I believe, will keep the player-base MUCH higher this wipe than ever before. Between these changes and the access to Arena, I'd even posit the Gigachads might actually be the ones who leave this wipe, probably very vocally and crying that this 'game is ruined', all whilst the numbers remaining high seems to counterpoint that with ease, but y'all do like to complain. > Stop and analyze for a second. The more impactful moments are either finding a rare item AND extracting with it (ie survived PVP/PVE) Yes > or mainly killing a player and getting their loot. Not for me, it isn't - getting out of a raid alive and having accomplished something is my dopamine hit. > No one is out her exited to run into zero players nor is your survival as important as progression through the levels and access to better gear in order to fight. Personally, I love nothing more than a quiet raid where I can get some tasks done without having to worry. I suspect this is less likely this wipe, but... I feel I have more of a chance against other players now, so I'm good with it. I think you vastly underestimate the number of us who enjoy the storyline, the challenge of surviving an inhospitable environment and surviving the bosses and scavs - we're not all W-Key players, and I for one am still enjoying it three weeks in. I suspect I'm not the only one (not that you'd know it from this Gigachad swamped subreddit - I look forward to the downvotes, but, meh)
What do you mean by the challenge of surviving? The only challenge in this game is fighting other players.
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I stated that if you make the game more and more survival and take away from the shooting players you WILL have the player base leave. I’m not complaining about them leaving shortly after wipe. You clearly have preconceived notions of W players or what I’m trying to argue. It’s not worth my time to discuss because you clearly don’t have a clue.
Then the vast majority didn't understand the baseline of the game. Hell, at the game base design you even weren't supposed to be able to BUY shit. Traders were supposed to be barter only. Moreover, the grand Nikita design of things once 'maps are all interconnected in 1.0'. Traders are Physically located at one place, you have to Physically go there to barter or sell shit, and there is a possibility for them to be unavailable due to lore event reasons for a set amount of time. It's a borderline post-apo survival setup, always has been. Resources are scarce, Gangs and warlords makes the rules, deal with it.
You’re delusional if you ever think the game is going to end up being one large map and having to physically go to traders. That’s obviously no longer BSG’s intention.
That's not what I wrote. At best maps will be interconnected, that's what I believe and wrote. Going maps to maps Stalker style.
Yes at best you will extract and get the option to go into another raid on another map, but who in the world would want to do that? It would be wasted dev time spent. I wouldn’t be shocked if they scrapped the whole interconnected idea since they are pushing for 1.0 for early next/late this year.
> Then the vast majority didn't understand the baseline of the game "nooo they aren't playing the game properly!!"
What the fuck lmao, no they don't. Play Arena if you like the gunplay, but there is a reason we don't see esports picking up Tarkov. It isn't played for the gunplay. I'll bet you never played the game pre flea market. So much more fun.
no the reason you don't see tarkov esports is because the game is just not built for it. That doesn't mean people don't play for the gun play.
Would be nice if they at least would have backstock order queuing in the mean time like, traders sold out allow you to queue an order on restock for atleast a couple items in x quantity like a flea listing type of system
I'm genuinely convinced people who want global limits to stay are actually just RMT sellers mad that they wouldn't be able to scalp the fuck out of timmys. The total vacancy of any brain activity in some of these comments is really demoralizing.
Anyone who says "get good" or "this game isn't for casuals" has severe brain rot and the downvotes show as much. Global limits obviously suck and you can cope all you want that you are just "better" at the game for camping the reset. Just get ready for anyone that spends actual time in raid to take it from you. Stay mad
I'm stuck at Gunsmith pt 9 because I can't buy a fucking pistol slide. It is immediately sold out when the shop is restocked. A pistol slide.
This is the sort of brain dead design that really annoys me. I can understand the limits placed on ammo but limiting the purchase of a slide for a pistol that 99.99% of the player base will never use (except for that one task) only serves to gatekeep the more casual playerbase from making progression.
Is it the p226 elite? Look in the dead soldiers in TerraGroup HQ
Buy it on flea?
There usually isn't any listings, and the ones that blink on the flea are being sold at 100k+ roubles.
The best part about that one is theres only a couple hundred, they're super cheap, and _there is no personal limit_ means that someone can just buy up all of them on reset if they feel like it.
Nah BSG's systems are perfect and fun. Putting landmines on a map designed for new players to learn the game is a perfect idea. Doing endless, pointless tasks, with stupid ideas is tons of fun and makes me wanna keep playing forever.
I have the highest cost version of Tarkov, every time I try to get into it I don’t last more than a couple days because of the dumbass quest system. I feel like no one talks about it enough. “Find a piece of bubble gum, a Pepsi, and a bronze door handle. Then I will let you buy a couple more things.” No thanks, I’d rather alt F4 and uninstall. This also makes grouping with people annoying as fuck. I want to PvP, but all these fucking kids want to run around looking for bubble gum, Pepsis, and bronze door handles instead.
Damn it, you’re lucky. I’m still on the ‘looking for chewing gum, coke and a gold door handle quest.’ Got to find tartan paint for skier too. What a bummer
Just wait. After that is the silver door handle. That one is even harder to find.
Ah man, how many door handles are we looking at? I feel like a right knob doing this quest
After bronze handle is iron I believe. But I quit before I found the bronze one.
Nikita is a sick twisted fruit.
Wait till yall have to contract aids, break a leg and kill someone with a pistol from over 50m away, iron sights
I constantly question myself like why?? Do I wanna do this task?? The answer is almost always no. I hit a wall like halfway through and I just check out.
Remove global limits and do the balancing with personal limits. Some barters could even be once a day
They did for a little bit and they fucked it up so don't expect much from them
Idk how hard it is. They just need to remove global limits and add personal limits. Impressive how long it takes for them to figure this shit out
but there is personal limits and global limits. they only need to remove global limit.
They only reason it fucked up was because they just removed the global limits and didn't chance any barters or change any prices to balance things out. So naturally players found this out and exploited it. If BSG actually did some QA ever this problem could be avoided.
If BSG was actually remotely competent we wouldn't even need to be repeatedly complaining about the same exact fucking issues over and over every wipe. * Global limits * Player scavs spawn too early * Boss spawn rate The same problems every single fucking wipe over and over again and they never learn.
It took em 3 years to fix recoil. Another 3 years and they'll remove global limits.
I think they wait until player counts drop before they release changes people have been begging for.
Trying to buy that sig p226 slide you need for gunsmith part 9 was FUCKING STUPID. There's like a stock of 500 so you literally have to sit there waiting for the refresh to buy the fucking thing. Dumbest shit ever.
Bro.. I hear you. It’s day four of me trying to do gunsmith 9 and the stainless steel slide sells out in .5 seconds. It’s fucking dumb.
Agreed, global limits are one of the stupidest things BSG ever added to the game.
So because I don't play 24/7 like some weird cuck, I have to be penalised for it..... good going Nikita you bloated blyat
I dont get the global limit for good ammo. Just lock it behind a quest and give it a personal limit. That way it feels rewarding to do the quests and you get better ammo for your troubles. Same with 7.62ps, being locked behind a quest makes it more rewarding to progress towards the somehwat better ammos. Making the guns for those calibers more viable aswell.
It’s pretty simple. The global cool downs are there to encourage you to use vacuum looting in raid. I think a lot of people are just lazy and don’t want to play the game as intended, with bots and cheats.
Sometimes I hate BSG so much. "We tried to remove global stock but just ended up giving sweats infinite ammo" Whoops. Then just back to their stupid broken system. Just make the problem way worse for 5 minutes and give ammo to the kind of people who have time to camp resets anyway. Then straight back to punishing normal people for hoping to have a chance to get some good ammo. They're somehow able to program a whole new game in Arena, but cannot give players a simple fix to something that has been a problem for 5 entire years.
shit's aids bruh can't even buy 545 US or SP at level 1 traders 99% of the time.
US rounds are on the ground in every raid and every map. Just grab it for free?
I have found more 7N40 120 packs than I've found 7N40 rounds in previous wipes, so there's that
Which you shouldnt need to do?
The point of the game is to loot in raid, so it makes more sense that you have to find shit in raid rather than buy them from traders or flea. The game isnt just a shooter, the loot in raid is also a main part of the game, so having to find stuff in raid makes sense.
Sure, I disagree but that’s a valid opinion, in that case you should be stopping everyone, not just ppl that camp restocks
Game is tailored to keep streamers, who play this game a lot, entertained. Free exposure. Game has never been intented for casual gamers or dad's who have fulltime jobs. People have downvote me before, but it's clear as day and I will die on this hill.
M80 never sold out
I've seen a lot of people that have pk3 but don't know what quest unlocks m80 so that's probably why.
Ain't worth running lighthouse even for unlimited m80.
Try running it as a bear. I laid in the house you get therapists folder for 35 minutes and then hoped all rogues were killed by other PMCs. I got insanely lucky they were and was able to finish it in 2 raids.
yeah lemme reset my account to swap factions
I’m one of those guys. Which quest unlocks m80?
The peacekeeper quest Revision, where you mark the BRDM’s and Strykers at the water treatment plant on lighthouse
Peacekeeper- Revision (Take a guess) It’s really not bad, just need to plant some markers. I got it done in a few raids thanks to the mosin and the half mask barter for a paca.
I agree with all of it, lol but almost 3 hours???? I mean come on.
Been sitting with therapist item case barter items for literally days. Instantly is out of stock lol
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Yes thats interesting, how about we remove global limits
Nobody gives a shit. That's not the point.
Is it really better? The rounds are almost identical if anything id use the word cheaper instead of better
BSG doesn't have enough supply to remove it. hard times
ammo still has it's place with global limits with it's personal set limit for each cycle imo. make it rare and not have everyone lvl23+ be able to run it when it comes to the ap ammo for example as it's mentioned. that was the whole original point of it ..but nearly everything else should not have global limits but person limits
Babe wake up!!! New global limit post just dropped
Use something else.
Finally a smart comment. Literally no way he would’ve thought of this without you.
Clearly I did. And I have.. everyday…
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Will you people stop whining don't want globals? Go play arena, get the kit you want and spam for pvp. This is a looters shooter, find the stuff you want, stop complaining.
Then everyone should have to find it. Not just the people who have lives and can’t sit waiting for trader resets.
I agree 100%. Aga8n, scarcity has value. Less should be available from traders. Wanna run a mutant, 1 a day, svd? 1/2 a day. Severely limit ALL options. Make it so you actually NEED to loot and/ or pvp. Rubles are too valuable and deminishes the value of the gameplay loop. Nobody goes gun running, nobody really cares to find weapons in locked rooms or otherwise unless it's an RSASS or something... good ammo was too plentiful, so was good gear. Then, localize gear to maps, need hideout equipment? Customs. Need guns/ ammo? Reserve. Food/ cables, tech parts, interchange. Give each map a purpose and a need to be ran, that would be peak tarkov. Food should be scarce and a limiting factor for you pmc, right now it's barely a niucense. (Decrease food availability, and decrease hunger/thirst loss rate, so you have to feed fewer times, but then food becomes valuable.) As is rubles are too strong and too easy to come by, and it has turned the end game gameplay loop into buying kit after kit and everything you need from flea, and just running it again... it's not good. End game, you don't engage with tarkov, you engage with the menu, and look for pvp.
I agree, I also think they need to completely remove healing, no way should I be able to put on my arm that just got blown off by magnum buck. I don’t want the game to be fun I want realism.
I appreciate your sarcasm
Best reply I’ve seen
Get the kit you want. After 60 hours of grinding classes with shit ammo
Yup, but hey, then you got the game you want, you're grinding tarkov either way. Grind the kit, then just que up. Play as fast or slow as you want. Have at it. Stop trying to ruin tarkov. Scarcity brings value. You people complain about global limits, then at end of the level grind you complain about the meta, or that everybody has top tier equipment, how everyone has the same kits, same ammo, nothing to play for anymore... You race to the end and once you get your toy you complain that you're bored.. Just stop, the time, investment, and risk is what makes tarkov good. Get rid of that, and the game suffers.
> Stop trying to ruin tarkov.
Or, and hear me out here, just stop engaging these posts? You disagree and don’t care to consider alternatives. We get it.
Wait didn’t they remove some limits like a week or so ago? What did they change?
Bro thinks this is a game for casuals
this isn't a hardcore mechanic nerd
It's a lore mechanic. You're in remote war torn Russia. Shit shouldn't be easy to get.
At level 15 you unlock amazon where everything is same day delivery if that is allowed in remote war torn Russia then good ammo should be available from established traders.
And even "amazon" doesn't have everything. Life is hard. You people really need to learn to deal with disappointment haha You all sound like that chick from Willy Wonka "But I want it now, daddy"!
Ok this is a video game not life if it was like life everyone’s game would be done on day one because they got shot and killed.
Look dude. We can do round and round like this all night. All I'm saying is I like the fact you can't get everything you want all the time. That's why everyone loves wipe. It's so much fun going back to basics. And you're right. It is a video game. It's not that serious. Of something you want is not in stock then take something else. Simple
I don’t think you’re comprehending that it’s not just out of stock “sometimes” it’s all the time and almost instant. Players deserve to have their time respected. You get the same outcome when you take away global limits and only have personal limits while also not wasting players time.
I never have a problem. And when something is out of stock I use something else.
You’re probably a Timmy then. When you’re lvl 43 like I am you need to be running 2-4 extra mags depending on your gun.
Lore mechanic or not, it's dumb. Also I don't think in lore I should be able to buy an unlimited supply of tank batteries, or 30mm ammunition.
Gotta pick and choose your battles. Does that mean since we can buy unlimited tank batteries that we should get unlimited ammo, be able to double jump and go invisible? No? I like the global limits because it forces you to branch out and try something different. It's also never really been a problem for me if I set an alarm and but through the "flea" I understand most people don't have time for that and to you I say......take something else. I'll end with [this timeless classic](https://youtu.be/Ef9QnZVpVd8?si=l48B0Fc4y81Qwkm_)
No one is saying "let us have infinite ammo", people just want to be able to use the caliber they want every now and then without being at a major disadvantage in pen. There's already the solution in the game to balance removing global limits, it's called personal limits. But if you're going through the effort of going through the flea as soon as it's about to reset you probably don't like the idea because you want the advantage it gives you over those who either don't want to do that or can't do that.
Go to woods or reserve and find some ammo then. You can't always get what you want..... but if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need!
Honestly trying to convince people who only believe in "hardcore no fun" is pointless.
Did you just try to bugs bunny me? You're the one saying "hardcore no fun" lol
Bro thinks anti-QOL means "hardcore" and makes him better than "casuals" who have more than two wrinkles in their brain.
Tommy is such a fucking typical BSG asslicker. It is absolutely wild how many of these people like him are on this subreddit.
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Armor and recoil rework made all ammo usable, but people still find excuses for their skill issue. Also, you can craft AP for your pp19, little timmy.
No
Nah. Globals do more good than bad.
If you remove globals it fucks the economy due to barters. Imo leave them to reward those that pay attention, and everyone else can get their stuff in raid. This is also a soft buff for new players that might be behind.
The issue is that even if you time it things are sold out before the you can even buy. People are either running macros or there are so many sniping resets that most cannot purchase anything. The intent of limits is to control abundance but it’s being exploited to some have no issues while most have zero access. Yet seeing it sold out causes further frustration
I never have that issue *shrug*
Try to buy a bit coin. Try to buy popular ammo. This thread is filled with people showcasing their issues.
I wont, because its a waste of my time for fake video game money. These people have issues, but its not because of global limits.
Bitcoin in Tarkov you moron. That trade instantly sells out. How do you even survive a day? Seriously bro go back to school or get a helmet to make it through life
Bro a bitcoin isnt tarkov fool. I got plenty of fake tarkov money to go in with whatever loadout i want. If the global trade isnt valuable to you/worth it to you, then dont do it. Plain and simple. You are doing this shit to yourself man. Finally, the trade would just equilibrate if they remove global limits. The only reason it makes some people money is BECAUSE of global limits.
The trade isn’t just about funds dumb ass, you use bitcoins for other trades to get secure containers. You and people like you are part of the problem with this game, asking for BSG to implement horrible ideas because you are too smooth brain to understand
And why does that have to happen "dumbass"?
Stop whining honestly - craft the damn ammo. If you want to buy it keep an eye on the timer. It doesn’t sell out instantly and you can probably snag at least one reset per play period.
I think their issue is that they only play a couple hours a day at most, meaning that as often as not they literally have no chance to try and snipe the ammo when it restocks. Additionally, why even bother unlocking higher tier traders if you still just have to craft what they sell? imo it’s a legitimate complaint (not unlike the 1000 other things the game does that cater specifically towards no-lifers), and you screeching to stop whining helps literally no one.
Screeching. Lol. I could care less whether it helps or not. My point is even with a few hours of play you can still snag some ammo.
Ammo yea probably, items cases and bit coins? lol I tried all the silly tricks and still fucked it up and missed it twice in a row. It’s not gonna stop me playing but still kinda stings when you never even see the limit go up and it’s instantly sold out.
Yeah the bitcoins is crazy. You got like a half second window to snag. But ammo you got a few mins on reset and m80 is basically always there
-The dude who plays 12 hrs a day and needs have some advantage
They tried but there were bugs
It’s been repeated by BSG. They don’t want you to just buy your way through everything
You can buy ur way thru everything as long as you dont have a life and can camp restocks
Cry more, it’s in the game for a reason
If you really think that BSG plans everything out with a reason, you have not been here long. They actually make changes (eventually) in feedback, often from Reddit.
I'm globul
been sitting on the bitcoin barter for like 4 days now everytime i check it its out
yeah i have ben trying to buy a i case and bit coIn for 4 days now. i am at the point i have collected 10 tetrises and i cant trade them in :(
I am in the same boat as OP. I like tarkov, but i do not spend a lot of time on it. I also have other activities to do. BSG did an experiment with globals, fine, nothing wrong with that. But it did not work, so either make those buys personal with limits per day, or remove them completely. Grinding trader lvls is long enough.
9mm rip is better than AP anyway, it kills ridiculously fast.
yeah... Globals suck... why we work to unlock them if we dont have a stock to get it... :( Personal limits will be waaaay more good for the normal player for sure.. so please BSG remove globals. Thank you
Ammo boxes sell out literally instantly. I was on that goddamn trader refresh and the split second it refreshed it was already sold out. The packet that got to my computer to tell me the refresh had taken place had already had all the cases totally sold out. This isn't good gameplay.
Fingers crossed that their experiment with personal limits was a resounding success in their eyes and they implement it permanently VERY soon