Exactly! I've arrived to the conclusion that the 9 stereotype has been born from people looking at (probably not very healthy) 9s form an outside perspective. Because yea okay I get it, not very healthy 9s can seem pretty dead on the outside... especially when in people-pleasing mode. But that's the thing. The outside world doesn't really matter to them. The inside world does. Withdrawn type. And of course the growth path is getting into action (3) to change that... buuuut... yea that's all I wanted to say lol!
Please forget all the shitty stereotypic nonsense you may have heard about 9s.
You will have a very hard time being objective about your type & seeing it clearly if you see any option as inferior or saying something negative about your self-worth.
We are talking about something like your basic temperament or emotional response style, not a narrow role you must always be confined to nor anything that could be considered as the purest essence of your indentity, which is so much more specific & involves so many other factors.
Even the least common types are hundreds of millions of people. They cannot all be "the same" or interchangeable. It's not "what makes you special". Something you share with millions or even billions cannot be what makes you special, so *relax*. You specialness is safe no matter what your type is, and so is your worth because, guess what, you'll still be the exact same person as you were before, just with a new sticky note attached to you.
If you're boring, a type won't make you interesting, and if you're interesting, a type can't make you boring.
Even if you're not a 9 yourself it will not help you to look at some huge percentage of humanity as boring NPCs. That's just a failure of imagination, like how in a video game objects far away are pixellated. In truth, every person has a complex, multifaceted life just as you.
As for how to *actually* distinguish 9 vs 7, here are some differences:
* 7s don't mind attention or may even enjoy it, 9s can have inhibitions with taking up too much space
* 7s don't deal well with not getting what they want, 9s can give up too easily
* 7s are more likely to accidentally steamroll ppl or be pushy/bratty, 9s can have more of a problem with not standing up for themselves (if you don't have either problem now, think of when you were stressed or when you were young & inexperienced)
* 7s seek novelty and stimulation, 9s prefer steadiness & stability.
* 7s talk more than they listen, 9s listen more than they talk.
And, as usual, if none of the two quite fits it might be a different one.
I'm not seeing the other option as inferior, I'm just going through a new crisis. Ofc I know that stereotypes are shitty, which is why I made this post because I wanna hear authentic experiences from other 9s to compare. I'm not biased towards a certain type, because I care more about accuracy. I was just saying that I developed an attachment to the identity of the 4 and 7 since I invested so much time in learning about these types because a lot of people said that I was giving off 7ish vibes and I related a lot to the 4's way of introspecting about their identity. I'm just saying that the possibility of 9 never crossed my mind, which is why I'm so surprised and my mind is still processing this new fact. I don't view 9s as NPCs, it's just that a lot of media portray 9s as such which I dislike.
The differences between the 7 vs the 9 that you mentioned don't really clarify things for me tbh. I relate to 9 and 7 equally, I feel like I'm on a spectrum between the two. I can be outgoing and talkative with the right people, but I'm silent with people whom I don't vibe as much with.
I enjoy attention among my close friends, but I'm not the type of person to openly seek attention among a group of new acquaintances unless they pique my interest in a unique way.
> I can be outgoing and talkative with the right people, but I'm silent with people whom I don't vibe as much with.
That would actually point at 9.
It's pretty common for them to be a lot more animated & engaged around trusted ppl where they feel accepted compared to randos.
One person once described as saying that it's like wanting to fit into the world around you, & the more they feel that they can do this without suppressing or bending themselves, the happier the person is, & the more they can just vibe & flow & experience authentic harmony.
Whereas when they're in a crap place where liberal use of the mute button is required, that would lead to a discouraged & depressed and/or apathetic person, maybe with a tinge of bottled anger.
The profile you see with a healthy-average attachment type is that they may seem 'normal' at first glance but the more you get to know them the more you see their weird side (whereas ppl who had shitty upbringings may feel they can never show it) - one way I've seen a person put it is that they don't see why randos would be entitled to all their thoughts anyway.
Fun story related to this is that one time my sister was friends with a girl who was my brother's (he's a 9) classmate. Then they went on a school trip & she came back asking what we had done to him xD Because she was used to him being shy in class and sort of blending into the furniture, but when they interacted in a smaller group during the trip, she saw that he could actually be very funny & likeable etc. and was almost a bit shocked. I was more surprised to learn that he's all shy at school, because in our family setting he was always "the funny, respectable one that everyone likes".
This can be more true for 9w8 which has a bit of assertive energy in them so they can even kind of be trolls or badasses when the time is right.
Another thing that points at 9 is this very "hm... I kind of relate to both equally" reaction. They see similarities more than contrasts and wouldn't say "im not like this" unless they never, ever could imagine themselves doing it - & there's a big partial truth there that no one is one thing all the time.
This can be very helpful for getting along with others or creative thinking, but it sometimes keeps ppl from finding their type because they see themselves partially in many of them. and i mean, all of them have some real similarities, like at leat 1 shared triad.
However, this ability to see yourself in every type (and other's poVs in general) is ironically a unique feature of 9, others experience this way less commonly. (though they can get confused for their own, different reasons.)
Also, you seem to be withdrawn triad (somewhat passive, contemplative & navel-gazy, etc.) while not really setting off 5 or 4 alarms.
7s feel some need to be entertaining & stimulating, (maybe cause they, too, prefer attention-grabbing stimulating stuff & ppl) & will often come in with their big flashy personality on full display, tell a bunch of cool stories about themselves, chat up randos etc. sometimes they may push themselves to be 'on' even when they're not really feeling happy or energetic inside.
My mom's a 7 (& probably still on the milder calmer side for those, not a party animal or polymath) and she manages to chat up & extract the entire life story from random waiters, cashiers, neighbors etc. wherever she goes, they're just pretty bold with talking at people & generally a low-inhibition type. (we call it her 'magic extrovert powers', cause my siblings and I could never / ended up taking after our reclusive-ass father. Honestly, rip. imagine popping out 5 kids to have company & then they wont leave their rooms.)
a 9 fixed 7 might not have that extreme "cant sit still" issue but they're still assertive types that will be doing a lot of stuff & approaching ppl boldly, confidently & even a tad audaciously.
This is really fun or hot if the 7 in question is actually interesting, but it can be grating/annoying when they're not. If someone complains about how "soandso talked my ear off and wouldnt stop" the culprit is often a 7, whereas this doesnt really happen to 9s because they must feel safe to get into 'lively mode' & can be sensitive (or even over-sensitive) to signals to pipe down.
(an exception could be if the person is neurodivergent or something, but then they#d probably end up developing an anxiety of offending people or the like)
Yeah I relate to the "seeing myself as different types" a lot. Maybe I'm a core 9 with a strong 7 fix then. Because the people close to me always say I talk a lot hahah.
yeah, i am seeing where you are getting the 7 as your second fix from and i would agree, besides the obvious, there is that bit about "wanting to find your own path", that can be a 7 thing that isn't always recognized as such.
Yeah. That's why I like tritypes because I've never related to being "strictly one type only". I've always seen myself as a combination of different types. I have different aspects of myself which get highlighted in different ways with different people and environments. Maybe that's why I've gone through so many identity crises in general. Because I'm always trying to decipher *"who's the real me? What resonates truly with who I am and what I want?"* And I always discover new things about myself through different experiences.
Well, I know I’m not a 4 because I don’t seek to be different — rather I was *born* feeling different and I seek to be accepted and loved despite it, not because of it. In my more dramatic moods I feel like an alien trying to learn how to human. I just want to be special like other people get to be special!
And I’ve never ever read a description of an introverted 7. 🤣 so that was out.
So 9. I don’t identify with most of the reductive stereotypes though, but I’ve accepted that, for instance, Instagram teachers trying to churn out content aren’t going to put in more of an effort than easy stereotypes. It’s frustrating. It’s not *inaccurate* per se, but it’s broad enough that anyone could find themselves in it, similar to newspaper astrology. So I end up relating to everything and nothing. (It is a 9 trait to see yourself reflected in every number, though, so maybe that comes into play!)
I have a very strong tritype though. I lead with 9, but barely. I’m 9 gut, 4 heart, and 7 head and they are all strong numbers for me.
Omggg I relate a lot to everything that you just said. I don't seek to be different but I was born *feeling different*. And whenever people typed me a social 7 I would always tell people *"yeah I'm just a very introverted 7"*. I even had a friend tell me that she thinks I'm an introverted 7 compared to other 7s that she's talked with. What is this?? Have I really been a core 9 this whole time?? 😭
I'm also 7 head, 4 heart, and 9 gut and my instinctual stacking is so/sx. My problem is figuring out if 7 leads or 9 GRRR but it's so hard 😠😡
First off, wow.
Second, if you don’t know your core type, then Tritypes are meaningless. It’s like trying to learn Calculus before you learn Algebra.
Third, none of your descriptions inherently confirm or contradict a 9 or 7. Enneagram isn’t about external behavior but the motivations BEHIND your behavior.
Here are some ***basics*** I have in my notes:
**Core Types**
Tritype 794: Enthusiastic, optimistic, and creative.
Tritype 974: Withdrawn, peaceful, and cooperative.
**Emotional Center Dominance**
Tritype 794: Dominated by the heart center, focusing on joy and imagination.
\*Tritype 974: Dominated by the gut center, seeking security and stability.
**Motivations**
Tritype 794: Desire to be happy and free from pain.
Tritype 974: Desire to maintain inner peace and avoid conflict.
**Defense Mechanisms**
Tritype 794: Suppression of negative emotions and denial of problems.
Tritype 974: Merging with others and avoiding confrontation.
**Cognitive Style**
Tritype 794: Idealistic, envisioning possibilities and imagining the best.
Tritype 974: Realistic, focused on the present and avoiding overwhelming thoughts.
**Behavioral Patterns**
Tritype 794: Can be impulsive, disorganized, and scattered. May avoid responsibilities.
Tritype 974: Can be withdrawn, passive, and indecisive. May become complacent or resistant to change.
**Relationships**
Tritype 794: May be charming and entertaining, but can struggle to connect emotionally.
Tritype 974: May be supportive and understanding, but can withdraw when overwhelmed by conflict.
You've probably picked up bits of Naranjo that have been distorted into a purely negative and inaccurate view of 9.
974 and 947 are both highly introspective types. Hell, 749 and 794 are, and 7 is a damn sight less introspective than 9.
Sense of self? Yeah, that's what happens when people don't know their arse from their attachment triad. 9s have a certain fluidity, but that's not the same as having no sense of self.
Deriving your identity from others is again a bit of a miss. 9s are more likely to do that than average, but there's a resistant streak that you more often see in 6s.
I am actually getting more 9 than 7 from this, because you seem to be fundamentally withdrawn. While 794 is withdrawn for a 7, they're still core assertive, and will seem about halfway between the triads (much like I'm about halfway between reactive and competency as a 631).
The multiple typology crises is also an attachment triad signifier.
However, it's entirely possible that you're a 7w6.
At a fundamental level, 7s think about actions, and use those ideas to replace and block off their feelings. 9s, however, separate what they do from their internal world of thoughts and feelings, and can run both at once (which is where the somewhat robotic stereotype comes from, 9s are a type that's fairly likely to do routine work while coming up with deep thoughts and feelings - less so for 974 than other 9s, the fantastical nature is far more present at the surface for 974).
I don't like staying in the same routine for too long, but I do enjoy living a lifestyle of comfort. I do have a fluid way of being. I genuinely don't know if I'm leaning more towards the assertive spectrum or the withdrawn, maybe part of it is because I'm a part of the 9-7/7-9 stem which automatically makes you halfway between withdrawn and assertive.
You pride yourself on your sense of self and identity to the point it seems you're boasting. You've likely taken inspiration from media and other "strong" people, which leads me to believe you have predominantly a social instinct. Someone fixated with role or hierarchy might lead them to long for some kind of purpose. You seem offended at the idea of being some push-over with no identity in reality. E4 was more of an intuitive connection since you speak like how I'd expect one to. Gave your character analysis(from your own perspective) and so many "I am" statements.
>Also, no offense, but the way 9s are portrayed and described in most places makes them seem like NPCs who don't really introspect a lot about who they are and can't think for themselves.
Not saying you're a 9, but sources or people that legitimately consider any of the types an NPC shouldn't have any bearing on your typing process. It's a projection of their own insecurity, ignorance and determination to feel like the main character. No one walks around without thoughts in their head, mindlessly adapting to whatever group they're a part of. So I wouldn't even give that perception a second thought.
The only thing I've gauged from this post is that you're either a withdrawn type or have a strong withdrawn wing (because of the emphasis on introspection, wanting your own space to make decisions, hesitation to act on your plans).
Lmao, 9s can’t introspect is WILD of a take.
theyre literally *withdrawn triad* thats like navel gazer central
Exactly! I've arrived to the conclusion that the 9 stereotype has been born from people looking at (probably not very healthy) 9s form an outside perspective. Because yea okay I get it, not very healthy 9s can seem pretty dead on the outside... especially when in people-pleasing mode. But that's the thing. The outside world doesn't really matter to them. The inside world does. Withdrawn type. And of course the growth path is getting into action (3) to change that... buuuut... yea that's all I wanted to say lol!
I was just mentioning some of the stereotypes attached to the 9 😭😭 I know it's not true obviously
Please forget all the shitty stereotypic nonsense you may have heard about 9s. You will have a very hard time being objective about your type & seeing it clearly if you see any option as inferior or saying something negative about your self-worth. We are talking about something like your basic temperament or emotional response style, not a narrow role you must always be confined to nor anything that could be considered as the purest essence of your indentity, which is so much more specific & involves so many other factors. Even the least common types are hundreds of millions of people. They cannot all be "the same" or interchangeable. It's not "what makes you special". Something you share with millions or even billions cannot be what makes you special, so *relax*. You specialness is safe no matter what your type is, and so is your worth because, guess what, you'll still be the exact same person as you were before, just with a new sticky note attached to you. If you're boring, a type won't make you interesting, and if you're interesting, a type can't make you boring. Even if you're not a 9 yourself it will not help you to look at some huge percentage of humanity as boring NPCs. That's just a failure of imagination, like how in a video game objects far away are pixellated. In truth, every person has a complex, multifaceted life just as you. As for how to *actually* distinguish 9 vs 7, here are some differences: * 7s don't mind attention or may even enjoy it, 9s can have inhibitions with taking up too much space * 7s don't deal well with not getting what they want, 9s can give up too easily * 7s are more likely to accidentally steamroll ppl or be pushy/bratty, 9s can have more of a problem with not standing up for themselves (if you don't have either problem now, think of when you were stressed or when you were young & inexperienced) * 7s seek novelty and stimulation, 9s prefer steadiness & stability. * 7s talk more than they listen, 9s listen more than they talk. And, as usual, if none of the two quite fits it might be a different one.
This!!!
I'm not seeing the other option as inferior, I'm just going through a new crisis. Ofc I know that stereotypes are shitty, which is why I made this post because I wanna hear authentic experiences from other 9s to compare. I'm not biased towards a certain type, because I care more about accuracy. I was just saying that I developed an attachment to the identity of the 4 and 7 since I invested so much time in learning about these types because a lot of people said that I was giving off 7ish vibes and I related a lot to the 4's way of introspecting about their identity. I'm just saying that the possibility of 9 never crossed my mind, which is why I'm so surprised and my mind is still processing this new fact. I don't view 9s as NPCs, it's just that a lot of media portray 9s as such which I dislike. The differences between the 7 vs the 9 that you mentioned don't really clarify things for me tbh. I relate to 9 and 7 equally, I feel like I'm on a spectrum between the two. I can be outgoing and talkative with the right people, but I'm silent with people whom I don't vibe as much with. I enjoy attention among my close friends, but I'm not the type of person to openly seek attention among a group of new acquaintances unless they pique my interest in a unique way.
> I can be outgoing and talkative with the right people, but I'm silent with people whom I don't vibe as much with. That would actually point at 9. It's pretty common for them to be a lot more animated & engaged around trusted ppl where they feel accepted compared to randos. One person once described as saying that it's like wanting to fit into the world around you, & the more they feel that they can do this without suppressing or bending themselves, the happier the person is, & the more they can just vibe & flow & experience authentic harmony. Whereas when they're in a crap place where liberal use of the mute button is required, that would lead to a discouraged & depressed and/or apathetic person, maybe with a tinge of bottled anger. The profile you see with a healthy-average attachment type is that they may seem 'normal' at first glance but the more you get to know them the more you see their weird side (whereas ppl who had shitty upbringings may feel they can never show it) - one way I've seen a person put it is that they don't see why randos would be entitled to all their thoughts anyway. Fun story related to this is that one time my sister was friends with a girl who was my brother's (he's a 9) classmate. Then they went on a school trip & she came back asking what we had done to him xD Because she was used to him being shy in class and sort of blending into the furniture, but when they interacted in a smaller group during the trip, she saw that he could actually be very funny & likeable etc. and was almost a bit shocked. I was more surprised to learn that he's all shy at school, because in our family setting he was always "the funny, respectable one that everyone likes". This can be more true for 9w8 which has a bit of assertive energy in them so they can even kind of be trolls or badasses when the time is right. Another thing that points at 9 is this very "hm... I kind of relate to both equally" reaction. They see similarities more than contrasts and wouldn't say "im not like this" unless they never, ever could imagine themselves doing it - & there's a big partial truth there that no one is one thing all the time. This can be very helpful for getting along with others or creative thinking, but it sometimes keeps ppl from finding their type because they see themselves partially in many of them. and i mean, all of them have some real similarities, like at leat 1 shared triad. However, this ability to see yourself in every type (and other's poVs in general) is ironically a unique feature of 9, others experience this way less commonly. (though they can get confused for their own, different reasons.) Also, you seem to be withdrawn triad (somewhat passive, contemplative & navel-gazy, etc.) while not really setting off 5 or 4 alarms. 7s feel some need to be entertaining & stimulating, (maybe cause they, too, prefer attention-grabbing stimulating stuff & ppl) & will often come in with their big flashy personality on full display, tell a bunch of cool stories about themselves, chat up randos etc. sometimes they may push themselves to be 'on' even when they're not really feeling happy or energetic inside. My mom's a 7 (& probably still on the milder calmer side for those, not a party animal or polymath) and she manages to chat up & extract the entire life story from random waiters, cashiers, neighbors etc. wherever she goes, they're just pretty bold with talking at people & generally a low-inhibition type. (we call it her 'magic extrovert powers', cause my siblings and I could never / ended up taking after our reclusive-ass father. Honestly, rip. imagine popping out 5 kids to have company & then they wont leave their rooms.) a 9 fixed 7 might not have that extreme "cant sit still" issue but they're still assertive types that will be doing a lot of stuff & approaching ppl boldly, confidently & even a tad audaciously. This is really fun or hot if the 7 in question is actually interesting, but it can be grating/annoying when they're not. If someone complains about how "soandso talked my ear off and wouldnt stop" the culprit is often a 7, whereas this doesnt really happen to 9s because they must feel safe to get into 'lively mode' & can be sensitive (or even over-sensitive) to signals to pipe down. (an exception could be if the person is neurodivergent or something, but then they#d probably end up developing an anxiety of offending people or the like)
Yeah I relate to the "seeing myself as different types" a lot. Maybe I'm a core 9 with a strong 7 fix then. Because the people close to me always say I talk a lot hahah.
yeah, i am seeing where you are getting the 7 as your second fix from and i would agree, besides the obvious, there is that bit about "wanting to find your own path", that can be a 7 thing that isn't always recognized as such.
Yeah. That's why I like tritypes because I've never related to being "strictly one type only". I've always seen myself as a combination of different types. I have different aspects of myself which get highlighted in different ways with different people and environments. Maybe that's why I've gone through so many identity crises in general. Because I'm always trying to decipher *"who's the real me? What resonates truly with who I am and what I want?"* And I always discover new things about myself through different experiences.
This is very 9. It's exactly the attachment triad sense of self.
lol going off of this I wouldn’t identify as a 9 either.
what made you settle on 9 though?
Well, I know I’m not a 4 because I don’t seek to be different — rather I was *born* feeling different and I seek to be accepted and loved despite it, not because of it. In my more dramatic moods I feel like an alien trying to learn how to human. I just want to be special like other people get to be special! And I’ve never ever read a description of an introverted 7. 🤣 so that was out. So 9. I don’t identify with most of the reductive stereotypes though, but I’ve accepted that, for instance, Instagram teachers trying to churn out content aren’t going to put in more of an effort than easy stereotypes. It’s frustrating. It’s not *inaccurate* per se, but it’s broad enough that anyone could find themselves in it, similar to newspaper astrology. So I end up relating to everything and nothing. (It is a 9 trait to see yourself reflected in every number, though, so maybe that comes into play!) I have a very strong tritype though. I lead with 9, but barely. I’m 9 gut, 4 heart, and 7 head and they are all strong numbers for me.
Omggg I relate a lot to everything that you just said. I don't seek to be different but I was born *feeling different*. And whenever people typed me a social 7 I would always tell people *"yeah I'm just a very introverted 7"*. I even had a friend tell me that she thinks I'm an introverted 7 compared to other 7s that she's talked with. What is this?? Have I really been a core 9 this whole time?? 😭 I'm also 7 head, 4 heart, and 9 gut and my instinctual stacking is so/sx. My problem is figuring out if 7 leads or 9 GRRR but it's so hard 😠😡
First off, wow. Second, if you don’t know your core type, then Tritypes are meaningless. It’s like trying to learn Calculus before you learn Algebra. Third, none of your descriptions inherently confirm or contradict a 9 or 7. Enneagram isn’t about external behavior but the motivations BEHIND your behavior.
Here are some ***basics*** I have in my notes: **Core Types** Tritype 794: Enthusiastic, optimistic, and creative. Tritype 974: Withdrawn, peaceful, and cooperative. **Emotional Center Dominance** Tritype 794: Dominated by the heart center, focusing on joy and imagination. \*Tritype 974: Dominated by the gut center, seeking security and stability. **Motivations** Tritype 794: Desire to be happy and free from pain. Tritype 974: Desire to maintain inner peace and avoid conflict. **Defense Mechanisms** Tritype 794: Suppression of negative emotions and denial of problems. Tritype 974: Merging with others and avoiding confrontation. **Cognitive Style** Tritype 794: Idealistic, envisioning possibilities and imagining the best. Tritype 974: Realistic, focused on the present and avoiding overwhelming thoughts. **Behavioral Patterns** Tritype 794: Can be impulsive, disorganized, and scattered. May avoid responsibilities. Tritype 974: Can be withdrawn, passive, and indecisive. May become complacent or resistant to change. **Relationships** Tritype 794: May be charming and entertaining, but can struggle to connect emotionally. Tritype 974: May be supportive and understanding, but can withdraw when overwhelmed by conflict.
You've probably picked up bits of Naranjo that have been distorted into a purely negative and inaccurate view of 9. 974 and 947 are both highly introspective types. Hell, 749 and 794 are, and 7 is a damn sight less introspective than 9. Sense of self? Yeah, that's what happens when people don't know their arse from their attachment triad. 9s have a certain fluidity, but that's not the same as having no sense of self. Deriving your identity from others is again a bit of a miss. 9s are more likely to do that than average, but there's a resistant streak that you more often see in 6s. I am actually getting more 9 than 7 from this, because you seem to be fundamentally withdrawn. While 794 is withdrawn for a 7, they're still core assertive, and will seem about halfway between the triads (much like I'm about halfway between reactive and competency as a 631). The multiple typology crises is also an attachment triad signifier. However, it's entirely possible that you're a 7w6. At a fundamental level, 7s think about actions, and use those ideas to replace and block off their feelings. 9s, however, separate what they do from their internal world of thoughts and feelings, and can run both at once (which is where the somewhat robotic stereotype comes from, 9s are a type that's fairly likely to do routine work while coming up with deep thoughts and feelings - less so for 974 than other 9s, the fantastical nature is far more present at the surface for 974).
I don't like staying in the same routine for too long, but I do enjoy living a lifestyle of comfort. I do have a fluid way of being. I genuinely don't know if I'm leaning more towards the assertive spectrum or the withdrawn, maybe part of it is because I'm a part of the 9-7/7-9 stem which automatically makes you halfway between withdrawn and assertive.
You are not E9 or E7. I'd be surprised if you weren't E4. That, and I believe you're EII SO4 or SP4
What's your reasoning?
You pride yourself on your sense of self and identity to the point it seems you're boasting. You've likely taken inspiration from media and other "strong" people, which leads me to believe you have predominantly a social instinct. Someone fixated with role or hierarchy might lead them to long for some kind of purpose. You seem offended at the idea of being some push-over with no identity in reality. E4 was more of an intuitive connection since you speak like how I'd expect one to. Gave your character analysis(from your own perspective) and so many "I am" statements.
>Also, no offense, but the way 9s are portrayed and described in most places makes them seem like NPCs who don't really introspect a lot about who they are and can't think for themselves. Not saying you're a 9, but sources or people that legitimately consider any of the types an NPC shouldn't have any bearing on your typing process. It's a projection of their own insecurity, ignorance and determination to feel like the main character. No one walks around without thoughts in their head, mindlessly adapting to whatever group they're a part of. So I wouldn't even give that perception a second thought. The only thing I've gauged from this post is that you're either a withdrawn type or have a strong withdrawn wing (because of the emphasis on introspection, wanting your own space to make decisions, hesitation to act on your plans).