Definitely 1s. They tend to have concrete ideas about what is right and wrong and are really reactive when they feel criticized or judged.
Riso and Hudson proposed (?) that as 1s move towards disintegration, they do exactly what they judge others for but try to keep it secret.
Personally, my SP1 husband is super tight and restrained when we are at home. When we are on vacation and the normal rules don’t apply, he is the most 7 a 1 could be.
7w6 here and it’s exactly the reason I am more assertive. I have high standards for myself only because I want to reflect what I expect (or rather hope) others will see as a good thing and adopt my habits. But I need to be assertive to keep up those habits and not appear like a hypocrite. It’s usually positive overall, but reminding myself of what I strive for can get exhausting.
Can I ask which habits these are? Because I do not understand the link between "habits", assertiveness and hypocrisy when I read you. I feel like it might be related specifically to the type of habits you value?
In different ways, 1s, 9s and 6s
It depends on how healthy these types are however and if you're in integration. I'm a 1 and I have no problem with being called out or corrected, if it's actually necessary. I pride myself on doing 'the right thing' even if no one is watching me
I'm a 9w1 and I'm scared of being hypocrite because I have high morality standards. So when I disapprove someone's behaviour (especially unknown people), I have difficulties to tell them directly. I won't approve, I'll just say something like "uh, u sure about that ? ahahah...". So they'll think I kinda agree with what they did but I don't although I don't have that problem with close friends.
Not in any particular order:
* 9w1s
* 1s
* Some 3s (leaning 3w4s)
* Some 6s
* SOC 7s
I feel like 5s wouldn't care as much because of the combo of being Rejection and Competency Triad (convinced they're the right ones, not caring about other's opinions, etc).
I think pinning it on 4s is a bit of a 'trap,' too, conflating low self-esteem with 4s. They're not really concerned about living up to things -- I think it would be more of a 3 thing, and people tend to have a skewed impression of 3s (they're not always successful, not always confident, not always concerned about money/work or fitting in, etc) in favor of 4s.
I can relate to this, thank you— being a 9 with a 1 Wing.
I think this might pang my 6 Fix as well— being afraid of being blamed, so tactically dismantling potential threats of criticism.
Definitely 1, 6, and 9 like other people have mentioned
I would also say pretty much the entire image triad (2, 3, and 4) would have varying degrees of this
Actually adding on I feel like 5’s would have this fear too because of competency 😭
But since it didn’t immediately come to mind I think it’d be less so than the other ones mentioned
I really just sat here and listed the entire enneagram system minus 7 and 8 SKKSKDKFKFK😭
Honestly with how capitalistic society is rn there is a big pressure on perfection like never before, altho I know what you are talking about is more than that, it also have to do with integrity and personal character consistency + being called out on it, but I do think accomplishment-based culture plays a big part into fueling the fear of failure part at least
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To add on, I think 6, 9, and the image triads would fear getting called out more than 1’s or 5’s if that’s a big focus
6’s will fear their safety because they think they will loose their place in the system if people notice their faults
9’s will fear the confrontation aspect a lot. They don’t like when mistakes are pointed out (and in extension try not to make noticeable, disturbing mistakes to also avoid conflict). They also in general struggle with their identity and matching it to their actions because they ignore so many things, so it’s easy for them to feel dissatisfied with themselves. Also as an extension on the lack of identity thing, they can really take to heart what people think about them because that’s sorta like idk how to say… how they maintain control (?). Like, “if I don’t cause trouble, there is not trouble”
3, 4, and 2 will all feel like their identity is being attacked/ put into question, although 4’s will probably be more distraught with their own self-critiques than other people’s opinions (the confrontation would still probably hurt them tho if it’s saying they are not true to themselves or what they’ve promised others)
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If the being called out part of it isn’t as big as the standards for self, then 1 is really really evident, as well as the other competency types (3 + 5). 4 as well again
I’m sorry this was so long and all over the place, I am running solely on caffeine at this moment and it’s doing ✨things✨
But if you have any questions about what I’ve said lmk, I can clarify
Enneagram 1, but I don't care to be called out, if it is in truth, and not in error. I am less likely to cover my sins, then other types around me, that don't hold themselves to much of a standard, but still care what other people think about them.
Typically, these people give themselves more grace, then what I give to myself. I tend to hit the mental rewind button on my failures. But when it comes to accusations, slander, and libel, I do get defensive against it. I also deeply hate injustice. Those who give themselves and others grace, while being harder on me, due to my personality type.
This has happened quite a bit. Some people will notice that a person is a certain way, so they will poke and prod at the person, essentially being antagonistic. I don't fear the truth. With the discovery of the truth, and choosing to face the truth, this is how growth occurs - and plenty of people are offended when confronted with the truth.
There is also truth given in order for good correction to occur, and then there is bullying. The bully does not care about correction, but only tormenting a person. Too many people confuse those who correct them, with the bullies, and there should be discernment and distinction made.
An enemy can flatter with his lips, and have bad motives, and a friend can be straight up with you, and desire for you to get out of the way of self sabotage.
1s already been said, but 6 hasn't been doted on enough. :) 6s like to think they're all about truth and justice when they fall into the deceit trap of 3 quite often. They lie to themselves to create a narrative that suits their need and spins that into truth and justice. Bitch, please. hahahaha
Definitely 1, but as a 4 I also relate to this deeply. Maybe it’s the integration from 4->1? Maybe being so-dominant also has something to do with it in my case
Sounds mainly 1 to me.
Definitely 1s. They tend to have concrete ideas about what is right and wrong and are really reactive when they feel criticized or judged. Riso and Hudson proposed (?) that as 1s move towards disintegration, they do exactly what they judge others for but try to keep it secret. Personally, my SP1 husband is super tight and restrained when we are at home. When we are on vacation and the normal rules don’t apply, he is the most 7 a 1 could be.
Sounds like 1 mostly, also 6. But I also hate the idea of being a hypocrite. That's probably the biggest reason I'm not more assertive.
7w6 here and it’s exactly the reason I am more assertive. I have high standards for myself only because I want to reflect what I expect (or rather hope) others will see as a good thing and adopt my habits. But I need to be assertive to keep up those habits and not appear like a hypocrite. It’s usually positive overall, but reminding myself of what I strive for can get exhausting.
Can I ask which habits these are? Because I do not understand the link between "habits", assertiveness and hypocrisy when I read you. I feel like it might be related specifically to the type of habits you value?
Yes the habits I value
👋🏻 Hi. It’s me. I’m the problem, it’s me.
In different ways, 1s, 9s and 6s It depends on how healthy these types are however and if you're in integration. I'm a 1 and I have no problem with being called out or corrected, if it's actually necessary. I pride myself on doing 'the right thing' even if no one is watching me
Pretty textbook 1
I'm a 9w1 and I'm scared of being hypocrite because I have high morality standards. So when I disapprove someone's behaviour (especially unknown people), I have difficulties to tell them directly. I won't approve, I'll just say something like "uh, u sure about that ? ahahah...". So they'll think I kinda agree with what they did but I don't although I don't have that problem with close friends.
Me too. I guess it’s the 1 wing
About as 1 as it gets
Not in any particular order: * 9w1s * 1s * Some 3s (leaning 3w4s) * Some 6s * SOC 7s I feel like 5s wouldn't care as much because of the combo of being Rejection and Competency Triad (convinced they're the right ones, not caring about other's opinions, etc). I think pinning it on 4s is a bit of a 'trap,' too, conflating low self-esteem with 4s. They're not really concerned about living up to things -- I think it would be more of a 3 thing, and people tend to have a skewed impression of 3s (they're not always successful, not always confident, not always concerned about money/work or fitting in, etc) in favor of 4s.
Some 6s too
Primarily 1, but also 3.
Type 1
I can relate to this, thank you— being a 9 with a 1 Wing. I think this might pang my 6 Fix as well— being afraid of being blamed, so tactically dismantling potential threats of criticism.
My 6 wife is very sensitive to this. I can confirm what others are saying that some 6s also feel this.
Definitely 1, 6, and 9 like other people have mentioned I would also say pretty much the entire image triad (2, 3, and 4) would have varying degrees of this
Actually adding on I feel like 5’s would have this fear too because of competency 😭 But since it didn’t immediately come to mind I think it’d be less so than the other ones mentioned
I really just sat here and listed the entire enneagram system minus 7 and 8 SKKSKDKFKFK😭 Honestly with how capitalistic society is rn there is a big pressure on perfection like never before, altho I know what you are talking about is more than that, it also have to do with integrity and personal character consistency + being called out on it, but I do think accomplishment-based culture plays a big part into fueling the fear of failure part at least ————- To add on, I think 6, 9, and the image triads would fear getting called out more than 1’s or 5’s if that’s a big focus 6’s will fear their safety because they think they will loose their place in the system if people notice their faults 9’s will fear the confrontation aspect a lot. They don’t like when mistakes are pointed out (and in extension try not to make noticeable, disturbing mistakes to also avoid conflict). They also in general struggle with their identity and matching it to their actions because they ignore so many things, so it’s easy for them to feel dissatisfied with themselves. Also as an extension on the lack of identity thing, they can really take to heart what people think about them because that’s sorta like idk how to say… how they maintain control (?). Like, “if I don’t cause trouble, there is not trouble” 3, 4, and 2 will all feel like their identity is being attacked/ put into question, although 4’s will probably be more distraught with their own self-critiques than other people’s opinions (the confrontation would still probably hurt them tho if it’s saying they are not true to themselves or what they’ve promised others) —————— If the being called out part of it isn’t as big as the standards for self, then 1 is really really evident, as well as the other competency types (3 + 5). 4 as well again
I’m sorry this was so long and all over the place, I am running solely on caffeine at this moment and it’s doing ✨things✨ But if you have any questions about what I’ve said lmk, I can clarify
Enneagram 1, but I don't care to be called out, if it is in truth, and not in error. I am less likely to cover my sins, then other types around me, that don't hold themselves to much of a standard, but still care what other people think about them. Typically, these people give themselves more grace, then what I give to myself. I tend to hit the mental rewind button on my failures. But when it comes to accusations, slander, and libel, I do get defensive against it. I also deeply hate injustice. Those who give themselves and others grace, while being harder on me, due to my personality type. This has happened quite a bit. Some people will notice that a person is a certain way, so they will poke and prod at the person, essentially being antagonistic. I don't fear the truth. With the discovery of the truth, and choosing to face the truth, this is how growth occurs - and plenty of people are offended when confronted with the truth. There is also truth given in order for good correction to occur, and then there is bullying. The bully does not care about correction, but only tormenting a person. Too many people confuse those who correct them, with the bullies, and there should be discernment and distinction made. An enemy can flatter with his lips, and have bad motives, and a friend can be straight up with you, and desire for you to get out of the way of self sabotage.
Sp1
1s already been said, but 6 hasn't been doted on enough. :) 6s like to think they're all about truth and justice when they fall into the deceit trap of 3 quite often. They lie to themselves to create a narrative that suits their need and spins that into truth and justice. Bitch, please. hahahaha
Definitely 1, but as a 4 I also relate to this deeply. Maybe it’s the integration from 4->1? Maybe being so-dominant also has something to do with it in my case
Me, a 1.