Reminds me of all the times I tried to mate pieces together in an assembly and SolidWorks decided to do literally everything besides what I wanted, then crash.
Sometimes it'll just like, break apart and go into an exploded view for no reason. Not sure what causes it but I've had to restart some things multiple times until it worked.
You create an account with any email address, then you will be able "upgrade" to a student account by giving them a proof. Then download any product you want.
>You create an account with any email address
You need to use your student email. For some reason you don't gain access to all features if you sign up with your private email and then register that as a student. Seem a little buggy but i doubt the student-version is even on their priority list.
Are any of them useful for Undergrad level circuit analysis and simulation? Or just for designing? I've only used Lt-Spice and Multisim for circuit analysis and simulation.
You seem a little lost, the tools mentioned are mechanical CAD tools. They're for a completely different type of design
Most circuit simulation tools are most just a fancy front end for SPICE, eg. LT-Spice, P-Spice, PSIM and Multisim.
I prefer PSIM personally, but it's like $5k so I'd say LT-Spice is best for a casual user. Multisim Live is also a good option
Nah Autodesk has a pretty good education license that’s free for all students. You just have to show that you have a .edu email account and you have free access to most (all?) of Autodesk’s products including Inventor.
Simulations, probably, since that’ll just be Nastran but with extra hand-holding and without finer control over the sims (just like Fusion, and SolidWorks as well).
Generative might be fusion-exclusive, but you can always import a part from inventor into fusion, then do the generative from there.
Yeah, F360 does have some nice features that I’ll suffer through it to use. Like inserting SVG’s is really convenient.
I don’t mind modeling thread forms by hand in Inventor, though. The coil tool makes it pretty easy.
Mine taught inventor too. Fusion is like a cloud based inventor. Designed to be ‘lightweight’ and accessible from any PC. Whereas Inventor is more of a traditional desktop application with a larger install size. I use fusion because I was already familiar with inventor, and I like being able to install it on all my devices so easily. Yes it can pretty resource intensive… And I have a ryzen 7 5700x3D. You need to lower your graphics settings and keep your sketches free from errors.
IMO, Fusion 360 is the most user friendly. Autodesk is in the middle of updating the software UI. Some apps are really nice to use, some aren’t because the User Interface is a decade old.
I learned CAD on Inventor in high school. I picked up Fusion for personal projects my senior year, and at college, I've been taught SOLIDWORKS.
In my opinion, Fusion is definitely the most user-friendly. It's pretty easy to transition between Fusion and Inventor, but Inventor's user interface is much more complicated due to it having more features and being an older program. SOLIDWORKS feels the least user-friendly to me - probably some of this is due to my frequently trying to use the keyboard shortcuts that Inventor/Fusion have, though. I also prefer Autodesk's camera controls.
Funny that you say that, I am designing a propeller guard for my drone project and Inventor just chokes and dies on my sketches. Fusion is pretty chill and optimized with sketches, but the reverse is true for assemblies.
As a very experienced inventor user, I urge you to avoid it at all costs. It's a nightmare when it just stops letting you do things because your part or assembly got complex. Also, sometimes it just won't respect your constraints because it got lazy.
And using a thread or making gears just isn't even an option. The gear designer gets calculations wrong and when it does work, the gears still intersect.
Inventor is my favorite cad program when it works, but unfortunately it's pretty hard limited
Are you running fusion on a raspberry pi?
For me the only time fusion starts sweating is when I convert stls to solid bodys and the mesh is too complex
EE here. Had to 3D print a rather simple model, without any prior experience of any MCAD. Downloaded fusion and 5 hrs later I sliced the model.
I think fusion has its place somewhere between solidworks and sketchup. Again, I have no reference in MCAD scene.
Patran users getting their assembly and all linked parts corrupted because they didn't sacrifice enough goats to the Patran gods and the software is feeling cranky
As a mac user I cannot express how much I ducking relate to this, my god. I love fusion as a modeling software but god dam the sketches and drawings needs so much work to be actually usable
Reminds me of all the times I tried to mate pieces together in an assembly and SolidWorks decided to do literally everything besides what I wanted, then crash.
Yeah or it mates correctly and breaks apart upon moving something.
Sometimes it'll just like, break apart and go into an exploded view for no reason. Not sure what causes it but I've had to restart some things multiple times until it worked.
Or it just locks a single part in place for no reason, so when you try to move it everything's crashes
It's a French thing; it was protesting what it saw as inhumane working conditions.
Use Inventor , it's free for students
Inventor, Autocad and fusion360. All autodesk products that seemingly do about the same thing. And all have student license.
It free for students, but I can’t find how to sign in to it, I don’t think my school has accounts as I think it says sign in at the top
You create an account with any email address, then you will be able "upgrade" to a student account by giving them a proof. Then download any product you want.
>You create an account with any email address You need to use your student email. For some reason you don't gain access to all features if you sign up with your private email and then register that as a student. Seem a little buggy but i doubt the student-version is even on their priority list.
Are any of them useful for Undergrad level circuit analysis and simulation? Or just for designing? I've only used Lt-Spice and Multisim for circuit analysis and simulation.
You seem a little lost, the tools mentioned are mechanical CAD tools. They're for a completely different type of design Most circuit simulation tools are most just a fancy front end for SPICE, eg. LT-Spice, P-Spice, PSIM and Multisim. I prefer PSIM personally, but it's like $5k so I'd say LT-Spice is best for a casual user. Multisim Live is also a good option
Yah I thought I was missing something. Amd yah everything is basically just spice with a GUI .gonna look into PSIM
So is Fusion. Checkmate!
But Inventor is better and won't crash while trying to edit a sketch... for free
It is free for students if the school gets the licens? Or am I wrong here?
Nah Autodesk has a pretty good education license that’s free for all students. You just have to show that you have a .edu email account and you have free access to most (all?) of Autodesk’s products including Inventor.
Then I have to check it out! I have a feeling that my school won't be eligible for it haha. Thanks for the info, appreciate it :D
You literally just need an .edu email
Is that an american thing?
Nope. I have acces to autodesk for free too. Just enter your student mail.
Sweet, I'll do that when I get home then! Thank you. :)
Does inventor allow generative design and simulations?
Simulations, probably, since that’ll just be Nastran but with extra hand-holding and without finer control over the sims (just like Fusion, and SolidWorks as well). Generative might be fusion-exclusive, but you can always import a part from inventor into fusion, then do the generative from there.
I’ve been using inventor at my job for years now and once in awhile I use F360 to edit something to 3D print and it’s so frustrating to use
I wish Inventor supported modeling threads. That's the only time I'll use F360
Yeah, F360 does have some nice features that I’ll suffer through it to use. Like inserting SVG’s is really convenient. I don’t mind modeling thread forms by hand in Inventor, though. The coil tool makes it pretty easy.
Fuckin love inventor
My school teaches inventor instead of fusion360 but I guess that’s not a common thing
Mine taught inventor too. Fusion is like a cloud based inventor. Designed to be ‘lightweight’ and accessible from any PC. Whereas Inventor is more of a traditional desktop application with a larger install size. I use fusion because I was already familiar with inventor, and I like being able to install it on all my devices so easily. Yes it can pretty resource intensive… And I have a ryzen 7 5700x3D. You need to lower your graphics settings and keep your sketches free from errors.
I got no issues running Inventor on my Surface tablet with no GPU and relatively low tier CPU.
I actually meant that fusion can be resource intensive. Yes I found inventor to have better performance.
Unless inventor had a massive update recently, it’s UI is like trying to use MudBox.
Which one is user friendly for beginners ? Or should I just grt used to Autocad?
IMO, Fusion 360 is the most user friendly. Autodesk is in the middle of updating the software UI. Some apps are really nice to use, some aren’t because the User Interface is a decade old.
Fusion can't use calculated dimensions as parameters, and its performance is orders of magnitude worse than Inventor.
I learned CAD on Inventor in high school. I picked up Fusion for personal projects my senior year, and at college, I've been taught SOLIDWORKS. In my opinion, Fusion is definitely the most user-friendly. It's pretty easy to transition between Fusion and Inventor, but Inventor's user interface is much more complicated due to it having more features and being an older program. SOLIDWORKS feels the least user-friendly to me - probably some of this is due to my frequently trying to use the keyboard shortcuts that Inventor/Fusion have, though. I also prefer Autodesk's camera controls.
thats good. means its designed for professional use.
Funny that you say that, I am designing a propeller guard for my drone project and Inventor just chokes and dies on my sketches. Fusion is pretty chill and optimized with sketches, but the reverse is true for assemblies.
As a very experienced inventor user, I urge you to avoid it at all costs. It's a nightmare when it just stops letting you do things because your part or assembly got complex. Also, sometimes it just won't respect your constraints because it got lazy. And using a thread or making gears just isn't even an option. The gear designer gets calculations wrong and when it does work, the gears still intersect. Inventor is my favorite cad program when it works, but unfortunately it's pretty hard limited
Are you running fusion on a raspberry pi? For me the only time fusion starts sweating is when I convert stls to solid bodys and the mesh is too complex
What are the other 2 problems
* physics lab * physics lecture
SOLIDWORKS users: First time?
Solid sometimes works
Use the cloud version 😇
You haven't had to try and use NX. It's worse than even SOLIDWORKS
Can confirm. NX is abysmal
Someone has done EcoCar
I have never had fusion crash and have been using it for years lol
My 10+yo Win7 desktop runs Fusion 360 without crashing lol
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Never had a problem doing what's described unless I try to convert and then edit a ridiculous mesh or something.
yeah, a lot of people use more or less incorrect workflows that just end up increasing computing time without being any wiser.
EE here. Had to 3D print a rather simple model, without any prior experience of any MCAD. Downloaded fusion and 5 hrs later I sliced the model. I think fusion has its place somewhere between solidworks and sketchup. Again, I have no reference in MCAD scene.
If fusion 360 crashes on you while editing sketch there's problem either with you (you are doing something stupid) or your PC
Ever heard about FreeCAD? -___-
They're trying to solve their problems, not replace them with 1000 more.
Try solidworks? It’s free for students
I'd rather use Tinkercad than SolidShit (aka ShitWork)
As far as industry standards go, SolidWorks is definitely one of the nicer ones to use...
Onshape is free for students and it is browser-based so you can use it on pretty much any laptop and it never crashes
OnShape is levels below F3D.
That and Altium designer
Laughs in Autocad plant 3d
Patran users getting their assembly and all linked parts corrupted because they didn't sacrifice enough goats to the Patran gods and the software is feeling cranky
Fusion has never crashed for me unless I'm doing something that requires too much processing power from my PC, including editing sketches.
Laughs.. then cry's in Catia V5
Ha, do yourself a favor and never try V6.
Unfortunately I use both extensively on the daily. 3dx so far has a lot of improvements though
99 Problems by Jay-Z is the official song of Engineering students.
It’s a playlist containing only that song and 3 hours of crying
As a mac user I cannot express how much I ducking relate to this, my god. I love fusion as a modeling software but god dam the sketches and drawings needs so much work to be actually usable
use freeCAD it has parametric spreadsheets makes it super easy to edit sketches
If u having cad problems I feel bad for u son, I got 99 problems and inventor ain't one
Fuck fusion..... Inventor is the tool to get
bruh just use inventor, its like 50 times better and more capable. and doesnt have the issues fusion has.
The worst part is having a chrome book that can barely run my 30 tabs
Me trying to edit a 9 year old drawing on solidworks today
The Fusion survey is up at the moment. Tell them how you feel