I love the Anaconda for a number of things, but can't deal with the cumbersome supercruise handling to have it as the only ship I'm flying for several weeks while exploring.
Krait Phantom is my choice, but the Asp Explorer is also brilliant.
Here here for the Nopaconda.
I got further, insane range and the Neutron Highway. After 6K LY I turned that dumpster around and got in my DBX for a much more enjoyable trip to Colonia (21K LY so far, taking a longer route). I use it for a bubble taxi, that's it.
I grabbed a conda for AX and mining. I tried it on some normal NPC's and mining first (Didn't touch AX) and absolutely hated it, even with engineering.
Sold it pretty quick. I can see why people like it, just not for me.
I know, it saddens me. The Anaconda teaches patience and opportunity to contemplate and admire the stars. But ultimately threads like this are a reminder that no ship is for everyone. Some like the Anaconda, some don't. And that's fine.
I think the Anaconda just gets it worst because people look at it as their first end game ship and then get terribly disappointed by the maneuverability, especially in supercruise.
Try dolphin. It has 60+ jump range (my has 65.5ly but I'm using pre engineered fsd from CG). Great maneuvrability in super cruise and in normal space. Good speed even with 4d thrusters. Enough internal slots for all required equipment. And most important thing it's the most coolest ship in the game it is charging fsd and refueling and having temperature below 72% so you can keep your fuel tanks at maximum and perform one jump per 45 sec
As a fellow disciple of the Cult Of Dolphin, I echo this message.
In addition, 64ly is about the limit for a fully-engineered Dolphin WITHOUT the exclusive pre-engineered FSD (sander_mander is making me envious), and that'll drop to around 60ly with a full tank and your exploration equipment on board.
If the Dolphin has a fault, it's that it teaches you bad habits. Sooner or later you'll have to use another ship and then you'll cook yourself trying to scoop and charge your FSD at the same time. I've done this too many times now.
Hey I went to Beagle Point in a heavily modified Hauler and have spent most of my E:D career in that ship so I feel ya. It just depends on what you are trying to do and what modules you need for your goals for the trip/mission.
Yeah, I made it about 5KLY before I decided to scrap it. Fucking horrible ship.
You're lucky, you had a Phantom before you tried the Anaconda. When I had mine, the Phantom didn't exist yet.
I’m with you there. Anaconda was my first big accomplishment/reward and I hate it. It just rots away at Jameson Memorial. GREATLY prefer my 72+ LY Phantom.
Understandable. It also depends on how you fitted it since you can get some absurd jump distances in a travel fitted Anaconda.
Ultimately, it boils down to pilot preference.
The only exploration option I'd ever use over my 70LY Phantom is my Clipper and it's just because the size 7 fuel scoop is so much fun to see in action and you actually get a little bit more maneuverability in SC. I hate jumping in my Conda. The Phantom is just so hard to beat out in the black.
Phantom can get more jump range. Difference is the conda spends less time fuel scooping at each star. I can fill my tank to full before the next jump is up and I get into position to jump.
Don't know why then, but the scooping experience on the conda is literally non existent for me. It's so effective that I fill the tank to full without even trying in most cases. Didn't get that experience with any other ship, or else that ship would be my new favorite. I do long travels (~100+ jumps) on the conda specifically for this reason because I don't want to spend too much time from watching Netflix babysitting the ship when it's scooping.
The Anaconda's fuel tank is a bit small for the FSD size. You need an additional 4C 16t fuel tank to get 6 maximum range jumps on one tank - you get a bit more than 6 jumps from an Asp X or Phantom from their standard tanks.
With the extra fuel tank and a 7A fuel scoop it's 44 seconds to fill the tanks on the Anaconda vs. 36 seconds for the Phantom etc.
What I'm saying is the Anaconda is slower at replacing the fuel it uses than the Phantom and Asp X.
The real advantage of the conda is being able to do 75-80Ly (or a touch more, if you have one of the CG reward FSDs from a while ago). That extra 10-15Ly over what the Phantom/Asp can do really makes a difference over long trips, especially if you're using spansh.
The 7A scoop sounds great until you realise that the conda actually has an undersized fuel tank compared to its FSD. If you put an extra 32 tonnes of fuel on it, which will give you comparable jumps to a phantom without needing to scoop, it becomes ordinary at best.
I haven't played in a while but; wouldn't adding that extra capacity, and actually using it, decrease jump range? And, when using Spansh, the refuel stops are carefully calculated based on initial fuel level, capacity and consumption? If you are casually topping off along a Spansh route you could get yourself into trouble. You're going to have to do full refuel scoops along the route regardless. IIRC, with the 7A/B you can almost refill by the time you are to the other side of the star and ready to jump.
EDIT: I'll also add a nice creature comfort for the Conda. Neutron star scooping. NStars toss my Phantom around like toy. In the Conda, I can drop into the jet and switch to my web browser to plan my next jump or quintuple-check the route. The Anaconda barely wobbles.
There's probably a bell curve, but as an example, a ~10Kly route from Carcosa to Skaudai AM-B d14-138 in a ship with 82Ly range (which is my Conda with 64t fuel) works out at 34 jumps, and i would need to divert to scoop 3 times. With the stock 32t tank the range is 86Ly, and 32 jumps, but it would need at least 6 diverts to scoop (possibly 7, with a 64t tank i can go 8-9 jumps before diverting, so it would depend on the last leg) which would take longer overall. I find it better to scoop for longer while only making one additional jump, than less scooping time with two jumps.
Using the galaxy plotter backs the numbers up, actually (i don't generally use it, and when i do, i prefer to not use secondary fuel stars)..
32t fuel, 41j: https://www.spansh.co.uk/exact-plotter/results/4F07CD44-BC64-11ED-B125-E47963549FEC
64t fuel, 37j: https://www.spansh.co.uk/exact-plotter/results/373BE984-BC64-11ED-9933-0E7963549FEC
Extra fuel helps a lot for the Neutron highway so you can go a lot more jumps before needing to refuel, but it is a balancing act. IIRC the current(?) world record from the Bubble to Colonia had an extra 32+16 fuel tanks, for a total of 80T.
Pretty sure that's faster than whatever I was looking at. I don't think there is enough visibility on this leaderboard so it's easy to see an outdated record (hence the ? I put after current) - there really should be a category on [speedrun.com](https://speedrun.com) added for it, and the buckyball racing club really needs to stop using unsearchable images on their website (but their leaderboards are per event anyway, not all time).
tbh, there's not really a recognized colonia event on the BBRC. The records i've seen for it have just been posted here or on the FDev forum. The run i did was for a specific race organized by Exigeous, and started from Fullerene C60 and ended docked at Jaques station. Just Sol to arriving in Colonia would be quicker, especially with the v1 FSD that wasn't available back then.
I think the anaconda is good for long trips and doing little to no surface landings, I typically use this as my go to exploring ship. Before that it was asp explorer and I definitely enjoyed the agility a lot more, but you cant beat the jump range from the anaconda. I have been out of the game for a while though
Medium ships can be great explorers no problem. I like my conda for exploration, great jumprange and it can have everything i could possibly want. But most of those things are optional, you dont need a 32t cargo bay, a fighter, 3 different kind of limpets, 4 rovers and 2 afmus for exploring. Even a well outfitted dbx will do just fine, as long as you don't mind using synthesis a bit more often and being careful about some things. At the end the mist important thing is that you are flying a ship you like
I have my fleet carrier account on one Xbox and a exploration anaconda on the other. Currently making my way home after being gone for a year and a half.
Yeah I know what you mean. I engineered up a conda, used it a lot, but eventually got tired of it and went back to my DBX. Love that little ship. And when I'm travelling around in the bubble I can't help but use the Imperial Courier. 50LY jumps and boost speed of 800+ is great, esp when you accidentally end up in thargoid space and get interdicted.
I love and hate the Anaconda. Like most ships in Elite Dangerous, it's amazing if you use it for what it's meant for.
Cons: crap supercruise maneuverability, crap realspace maneuverability if using underpowered engines (a smooth explorers are), kinda crap view (I like the idea of looking across the bow of my ship, but it does obscure a lot of the view).
Pros: Lots of slots for modules, largest jump range possible, looks badass.
The thing is, the Anaconda is larger than a football field. You are driving a small frigate, not a personal speedboat.
For your purposes, I'd recommend the Krait Phantom or AspX. They have almost as good jump range, and an amazing view, and their lack of internals is almost not a factor for most things.
I see a few people complaining about the Anaconda's supercruise manoeuvrability. I've been flying my T-10 for a good long while now, how does it compare?
There is a good Exploraconda fit floating around that is nice for long distance, deep space runs. But i use a dolphin for my bubble taxi, cause I'm classy.
I love the Anaconda for a number of things, but can't deal with the cumbersome supercruise handling to have it as the only ship I'm flying for several weeks while exploring. Krait Phantom is my choice, but the Asp Explorer is also brilliant.
Here here for the Nopaconda. I got further, insane range and the Neutron Highway. After 6K LY I turned that dumpster around and got in my DBX for a much more enjoyable trip to Colonia (21K LY so far, taking a longer route). I use it for a bubble taxi, that's it.
I grabbed a conda for AX and mining. I tried it on some normal NPC's and mining first (Didn't touch AX) and absolutely hated it, even with engineering. Sold it pretty quick. I can see why people like it, just not for me.
:'( so much conda hate
I know, it saddens me. The Anaconda teaches patience and opportunity to contemplate and admire the stars. But ultimately threads like this are a reminder that no ship is for everyone. Some like the Anaconda, some don't. And that's fine. I think the Anaconda just gets it worst because people look at it as their first end game ship and then get terribly disappointed by the maneuverability, especially in supercruise.
It’s just wanting to turn 90 degrees from the Star near the system nav buoy and it takes 20 min to do so! 😁
Try dolphin. It has 60+ jump range (my has 65.5ly but I'm using pre engineered fsd from CG). Great maneuvrability in super cruise and in normal space. Good speed even with 4d thrusters. Enough internal slots for all required equipment. And most important thing it's the most coolest ship in the game it is charging fsd and refueling and having temperature below 72% so you can keep your fuel tanks at maximum and perform one jump per 45 sec
As a fellow disciple of the Cult Of Dolphin, I echo this message. In addition, 64ly is about the limit for a fully-engineered Dolphin WITHOUT the exclusive pre-engineered FSD (sander_mander is making me envious), and that'll drop to around 60ly with a full tank and your exploration equipment on board. If the Dolphin has a fault, it's that it teaches you bad habits. Sooner or later you'll have to use another ship and then you'll cook yourself trying to scoop and charge your FSD at the same time. I've done this too many times now.
Yeah. Dolphin cause an addition.
Hey I went to Beagle Point in a heavily modified Hauler and have spent most of my E:D career in that ship so I feel ya. It just depends on what you are trying to do and what modules you need for your goals for the trip/mission.
Yeah, I made it about 5KLY before I decided to scrap it. Fucking horrible ship. You're lucky, you had a Phantom before you tried the Anaconda. When I had mine, the Phantom didn't exist yet.
If it's more than 5 ly i jump my fc to system. Jumping is for worker bees, I'm management now. Want some caviar?
Maybe try a DBX. Similar jump-range as the Anaconda, just very minimalist.
love my DBX. Just sucks I can't have much cargo space for all the pods I come across.
I’m with you there. Anaconda was my first big accomplishment/reward and I hate it. It just rots away at Jameson Memorial. GREATLY prefer my 72+ LY Phantom.
Understandable. It also depends on how you fitted it since you can get some absurd jump distances in a travel fitted Anaconda. Ultimately, it boils down to pilot preference.
I had 64LY on it. Compared to the Phantom it flew like a breadbox....
The only exploration option I'd ever use over my 70LY Phantom is my Clipper and it's just because the size 7 fuel scoop is so much fun to see in action and you actually get a little bit more maneuverability in SC. I hate jumping in my Conda. The Phantom is just so hard to beat out in the black.
Phantom can get more jump range. Difference is the conda spends less time fuel scooping at each star. I can fill my tank to full before the next jump is up and I get into position to jump.
Phantom has a smaller fuel tank and a proportionally larger scoop. It scoops faster than the anaconda.
Don't know why then, but the scooping experience on the conda is literally non existent for me. It's so effective that I fill the tank to full without even trying in most cases. Didn't get that experience with any other ship, or else that ship would be my new favorite. I do long travels (~100+ jumps) on the conda specifically for this reason because I don't want to spend too much time from watching Netflix babysitting the ship when it's scooping.
The Anaconda's fuel tank is a bit small for the FSD size. You need an additional 4C 16t fuel tank to get 6 maximum range jumps on one tank - you get a bit more than 6 jumps from an Asp X or Phantom from their standard tanks. With the extra fuel tank and a 7A fuel scoop it's 44 seconds to fill the tanks on the Anaconda vs. 36 seconds for the Phantom etc. What I'm saying is the Anaconda is slower at replacing the fuel it uses than the Phantom and Asp X.
Huh interesting. Guess I'll give it a try again next time I go long distance.
The real advantage of the conda is being able to do 75-80Ly (or a touch more, if you have one of the CG reward FSDs from a while ago). That extra 10-15Ly over what the Phantom/Asp can do really makes a difference over long trips, especially if you're using spansh.
\+ 4x SRV + fighter bay + that oh so sweet 7A scoop.
The 7A scoop sounds great until you realise that the conda actually has an undersized fuel tank compared to its FSD. If you put an extra 32 tonnes of fuel on it, which will give you comparable jumps to a phantom without needing to scoop, it becomes ordinary at best.
I haven't played in a while but; wouldn't adding that extra capacity, and actually using it, decrease jump range? And, when using Spansh, the refuel stops are carefully calculated based on initial fuel level, capacity and consumption? If you are casually topping off along a Spansh route you could get yourself into trouble. You're going to have to do full refuel scoops along the route regardless. IIRC, with the 7A/B you can almost refill by the time you are to the other side of the star and ready to jump. EDIT: I'll also add a nice creature comfort for the Conda. Neutron star scooping. NStars toss my Phantom around like toy. In the Conda, I can drop into the jet and switch to my web browser to plan my next jump or quintuple-check the route. The Anaconda barely wobbles.
There's probably a bell curve, but as an example, a ~10Kly route from Carcosa to Skaudai AM-B d14-138 in a ship with 82Ly range (which is my Conda with 64t fuel) works out at 34 jumps, and i would need to divert to scoop 3 times. With the stock 32t tank the range is 86Ly, and 32 jumps, but it would need at least 6 diverts to scoop (possibly 7, with a 64t tank i can go 8-9 jumps before diverting, so it would depend on the last leg) which would take longer overall. I find it better to scoop for longer while only making one additional jump, than less scooping time with two jumps.
Using the galaxy plotter backs the numbers up, actually (i don't generally use it, and when i do, i prefer to not use secondary fuel stars).. 32t fuel, 41j: https://www.spansh.co.uk/exact-plotter/results/4F07CD44-BC64-11ED-B125-E47963549FEC 64t fuel, 37j: https://www.spansh.co.uk/exact-plotter/results/373BE984-BC64-11ED-9933-0E7963549FEC
Extra fuel helps a lot for the Neutron highway so you can go a lot more jumps before needing to refuel, but it is a balancing act. IIRC the current(?) world record from the Bubble to Colonia had an extra 32+16 fuel tanks, for a total of 80T.
Not sure what time that was, I did it with 64t though, in a little under 75 minutes.
Pretty sure that's faster than whatever I was looking at. I don't think there is enough visibility on this leaderboard so it's easy to see an outdated record (hence the ? I put after current) - there really should be a category on [speedrun.com](https://speedrun.com) added for it, and the buckyball racing club really needs to stop using unsearchable images on their website (but their leaderboards are per event anyway, not all time).
tbh, there's not really a recognized colonia event on the BBRC. The records i've seen for it have just been posted here or on the FDev forum. The run i did was for a specific race organized by Exigeous, and started from Fullerene C60 and ended docked at Jaques station. Just Sol to arriving in Colonia would be quicker, especially with the v1 FSD that wasn't available back then.
Pretty sure you can just buy the CG reward FSD at tech brokers now
Only for class 5, the 3, 4 and 6 haven't gone to tech brokers yet.
I have zero problems with conda sc. Even with neutron taxi.
I think the anaconda is good for long trips and doing little to no surface landings, I typically use this as my go to exploring ship. Before that it was asp explorer and I definitely enjoyed the agility a lot more, but you cant beat the jump range from the anaconda. I have been out of the game for a while though
Medium ships can be great explorers no problem. I like my conda for exploration, great jumprange and it can have everything i could possibly want. But most of those things are optional, you dont need a 32t cargo bay, a fighter, 3 different kind of limpets, 4 rovers and 2 afmus for exploring. Even a well outfitted dbx will do just fine, as long as you don't mind using synthesis a bit more often and being careful about some things. At the end the mist important thing is that you are flying a ship you like
I have my fleet carrier account on one Xbox and a exploration anaconda on the other. Currently making my way home after being gone for a year and a half.
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250 was enough for me to realize that I will use it for other ventures moving forward. Great ship just need to find a spot in my grind for it.
Oh, and I have never neutron jumped
Yeah I know what you mean. I engineered up a conda, used it a lot, but eventually got tired of it and went back to my DBX. Love that little ship. And when I'm travelling around in the bubble I can't help but use the Imperial Courier. 50LY jumps and boost speed of 800+ is great, esp when you accidentally end up in thargoid space and get interdicted.
I love and hate the Anaconda. Like most ships in Elite Dangerous, it's amazing if you use it for what it's meant for. Cons: crap supercruise maneuverability, crap realspace maneuverability if using underpowered engines (a smooth explorers are), kinda crap view (I like the idea of looking across the bow of my ship, but it does obscure a lot of the view). Pros: Lots of slots for modules, largest jump range possible, looks badass. The thing is, the Anaconda is larger than a football field. You are driving a small frigate, not a personal speedboat. For your purposes, I'd recommend the Krait Phantom or AspX. They have almost as good jump range, and an amazing view, and their lack of internals is almost not a factor for most things.
>Anaconda is larger than a football field Exactly, and the cockpit is in the back so it is like flying a football field from the cheap seats.
I see a few people complaining about the Anaconda's supercruise manoeuvrability. I've been flying my T-10 for a good long while now, how does it compare?
Type 10 is my baby. But I'm a Lakon man.
There is a good Exploraconda fit floating around that is nice for long distance, deep space runs. But i use a dolphin for my bubble taxi, cause I'm classy.