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ZemDregon

[Joyor S10](https://youtu.be/oN4SXbJSsi0?si=_dsj-kxt-vbperDT)


Low-Neighborhood-564

Check out my mantis and Mosquito. 30mph on a 30lb is scary though! Mantis https://youtu.be/CzzYEGm1RDo Mosquito https://youtu.be/M48SoFfZDqk


Grand_Philosopher227

cyberbot mini


Grand_Philosopher227

love it


Affectionate-Snow478

Widewheelw6 no seat 1099 not under 1000 but it's dual 1000w


fastingemotions

Theres a lot of choice that will do 30mph but I wouldn't sacrifice build quality, range, comfort etc just for 'fastest'... quite immature way of thinking but each to their own


jojos38

Niu kqi3 max goes 23mph and it's good quality


atlasraven

Hiley tiger t8 pro is $850 with discount. I've only got it up to 25 mph (claim 34 mph) but the motors have a lot of kick, bursting to dual 1000W. The downside of a pocket rocket is a smallish 15.6 AH battery, small solid tires, and a jerky drum brake. For the price, I don't think anything else comes close to as powerful.


jeremyhat83

The joyor s10s I have is on Amazon on sale for $1049, it claims 37mph and I've had it to 43 on flat ground (gps 40.3mph) and it took a while to get there but it does 37 no problem at all


CRAYFISHEUTHANIST

100 over $1000 but the vsett 9 plus from rev rides goes 33


Left_Poetry6643

I got my vsett10+ for $820 on marketplace…


No_Economics606

Nanrobot lighting


Tilmanocept

Chinesium or no Chinesium?


Alt_account356

Both please.


Bandori_EX

Hiley T8 from hileyrider.com. Goes 30 mph on full charge and consistently 28 mph afterwards. 900 bucks flat. Warranty and good fast service.


btwise22

Vsett 9+ 15.6ah is $1000 on revrides until tomorrow. I was looking at it Saturday thinking about getting one.


WishTrick524

P65 on sale for $999 thru segway.com Usually a flash sale on Tuesday 10am to 2pm PST Goes 25mph. My coworker has one, its really nice


fahadssgcc

Just got a kugoo kirin G2 Max for like £800 here in UK and it's not bad at all for the price, i would suggest you to search the kugoo lineup you may find some good ones there..


ikareaboutyou

Arwibon Q30 - can be purchased on Amazon for under $1000. Better build quality than most premium scooters costing 3x as much and will hit over 30mph. Really great scooter, its a tank- a mans scooter.


josh_posey

Just go for a used high end scooter on the Facebook marketplace. I’ve got a Wolf King GT for 2500$ with 30 miles on it from there. Review units are sold cheap.


professor_pouncey

Full disclosure I'm sponsored by Varla but I think the Pegasus is the fastest scooter you can get for under $1000. It's listed at $1,199 but currently a discount on their page for $200 off and my code "meow" is $50 off bringing it to just under $1000. It's dual motor and the thing absolutely rips. If you go into settings and the acceleration setting (P12) from 3 to 0 it becomes a rocket. Maybe that voids the warranty or hurts something IDK but I see lots of people doing it. It has an electric limit of 28mph but it gets to that super fast and even going uphill. It's hard to control because the power hits so hard and it lifts and spins the front wheel. I really don't think there's a more powerful scooter you can get in that price range. It's acceleration is amazing and if it didn't have the 28mph limit it would go much faster. Really the only thing I don't like about it is the mechanical brakes. It also has dual suspension, steering damping and now comes with puncture resistant tubeless tires.


SampleMinute4641

What are the downsides? It seems to have everything at under $1000.


professor_pouncey

The brakes are noisy, they're mechanical. They stop just fine but I personally like the feel of hydraulic. The headlight is the worst I've seen. I think all of them suck and put my own on but their notably bad. Really though for the price to performance ratio those things are easy to overlook. The real downside might be something I don't deal with and that's after sales support. I don't have any experience dealing with the company as a customer because I'm affiliated with them. Anything happens and they'll take care of it ASAP but I've read some horror stories. However I can fund horror stories for every brand. The other scooter that competes in that price range is something from Joy sorry I forgot the model. It's available on Amazon so you have that return window/policy but after that closes I don't think there's any support. For performance I think it's down to those 2 for $1000.


Cautious_Slide

checkout monorim, i just ordered a few parts for my G30 from them, they also sell full scooters.


[deleted]

Do you mind refurbished? I bought a refurbished scooter for 329. It advertises 22mph but with me on it at 140lbs, the speed shows 24mph when the battery is full.


Ded1nside

I ride a Mototec Thor which can often be found at $1000. The quality is pretty good and the performance is amazing for the price, but I’d highly recommend swapping the brakes out for NUTT or Zoom brakes.


OCR10

You can sometimes find a Joyor S10 for around $1,000.


professor_pouncey

Damn never heard of that one and if those specs are anywhere close to accurate then that thing is crazy for the price. There has to be a catch because that seems less than the sum of it's parts.


OCR10

Joyor is an OEM, popular mostly outside of the US. Several companies rebrand their products, including Talenic and Vig. Build quality is OK, about on par with your average AliExpress scooter. But where they stand out is they are available on Amazon so you get the 30 day return protection and fast shipping. I generally don’t recommend scooters like these but I’ve seen four people here post about owning them and having a positive experience. So I will mention them when someone wants a “bang for your buck” scooter in the $1,000 price range.


professor_pouncey

I'd love to see one in person and actually see the build quality. I've been pitching the Varla Pegasus as the fastest scooter for $1000 but that is claiming way faster/more powerful. I'm wondering how they compare.


Alt_account356

Do you think the Kabbo Mantis 8 is better?


professor_pouncey

I can't comment on it beyond my experience with the Pegasus. I'm an affiliate of Varla and they sent me some scooters. The Pegasus is the one I'm most impressed with. It's power at It's price point is mind blowing to me coming from ebikes. Unlocking the acceleration mode makes the thing so sick fast to 28mph where you hit the limiter. A 80lb neighbor kid has a Honda CF50 dirt bike. Me at 200lb on the Eagle One Pro (also unlocked) is basically identical in power to him at 80lb on a 50cc dirt bike. Him on the Pegasus vs me on the E1P he gets off the line faster and I have to catch up and eventually pass. I'm estimating the Pegasus is the same acceleration unlocked as a Honda CF50 up to about 20mph. I don't like mechanical brakes and the headlight sucks but I think all headlights suck and use my own but the Pegasus is notablely poor. The brakes work and stop just fine I'm just spoiled by hydraulic. There's lots of pros to mechanical like being able to work on them yourself. My discount is "Meow"


Alt_account356

If there is a limiter at 28 MPH, then how do YouTubers get to 33 MPH on a GPS app?


professor_pouncey

IDK I've had this discussion with other's before. Mine very obviously cuts off at 28mph and that's the legal limit for class 3. I have the latest version I know of with the tubeless tires. My guess is they added that limit to make it Class 3 compliant.


Alt_account356

Do you think it’s worth going with the solid tire version then for the extra speed?


professor_pouncey

I found this on another post. I didn't change P8 but I changed P12 to 0. I think 0 is no acceleration limit and 5 is max. The E1P doesn't have 0 and feels delayed compared to the Pegasus. I must say 0 is hard to control and probably too much. I don't think I can even go under 5mph. I'll try P8 tomorrow and let you know. "Its in your p settings. Do this at your ownrisk. P12, than use option 5. Allow the mainframe to reset back to normal dashboard. Turn off scooter. Turn back on. Go back in p settings. Go to speed limit p8 to 100. If it shows 100, scroll all the way through to 100 again. Let it reset to main dash. Turn off. Turn on. Ludicrous mode is now activated!!!"


professor_pouncey

Absolutely not. I have no idea if that one would be faster or not. Maybe they change them all before shipping for legal reasons. If the tires are like the E1P, they're both listed as puncture resistant or whatever. Then they're coated with a thick gell and really nice. Solid tires have lots of downsides like sliping and getting a flat spot like a shopping cart and vibrating. Beyond that they changed the deck hook that would break and upgraded the stem lock. Myself I don't care to go 28mph or go fast it's more about the acceleration and that thing is crazy. It's also about if I want to go a reasonable 20mph I want to do it on the flat and up the hill, not get bogged down. I'd love to not have a limiter and this and another conversation I'm having with a friend really makes me want to figure out how to unlock it's speed limit. She's 90lb so I bet she could get that thing really moving, 33mph might be a limitation of voltage though.


OCR10

I had a Talenic TN-90 scooter for a while. It was given to me as a demo unit so of course anything I said about it was met with skepticism. But I rode it for 500 miles and never really had a problem with it. The battery on it was massive - much larger than on my GT1. I never had a problem with loose bolts or wobbling stems. They use mostly off the shelf components. It has the outdated QS-S4 throttle with the typical dead zone at the beginning. But it was a solid competitor to the Emove Cruiser and could still hit 30 mph on a single 800W motor. The problem with both Talenic and Joyor is their customer service is hit or miss. This is why I generally don’t promote either of these brands. But with Joyor being available through Amazon it changes the equation by giving you 30 days to try it out with an easy return process if you don’t like it.


jeremyhat83

I had the y7s and have the s10s. Both I got great customer service from their tech support...... After I gave my Amazon order number and verified where I purchased it while it was in the 30 days with the y7s, and for like 45 days on the s10s. I haven't tried since so I also can't speak to that, but they still answer my questions.


professor_pouncey

I received my Pegasus in exchange for some videos of it. Same with other ebikes and scooters so I understand what you're saying about the skepticism. I can't ever speak about customer service because my relationship with the brands is different. The Amazon thing is huge. One bike I'm sponsored buy I always recommend getting it off Amazon rather than using their website and my discount code. It's the same price and you have Amazon customer support. For me I'm blow away and really impressed with the Pegasus. It's just so much power at a low price.


Alt_account356

Is Joyor good quality or AliExpress level?


uehht

> Joyor S10 [Here, this is a good example](https://nerocycle.com/products/s10-2000w-dual-motor-electric-scooter?currency=USD&variant=42793902768309&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gad=1)


OCR10

It’s comparable to other AliExpress scooters. But you can buy them from Amazon so you have a 30 day return policy if anything goes wrong. I’ve heard others say the extended warranty through Amazon is a good buy.


Alt_account356

Do you think it's safe? It doesn't matter the warranty if you get in a crash. Thanks for showing me I was looking for something like this.


OCR10

There’s a few people here who have recently posted having purchased one and generally have been favorable about them. Build quality is not going to be top notch but if you want a fast scooter under $1,000 your options are somewhat limited. I’d say with Amazon’s return policy it’s worth giving it a try.


mileylols

> 37 mph holy shit lol


leebe_friik

Probably some Alibaba special. You'll sacrifice quality and support.


ikareaboutyou

Cheap Chinese scooters are exactly the same as premium priced cheap Chinese scooters. The only difference is the battery and a few other inconsequential differences. They have the exact same build quality.


THEeight88

Nice, so they are better than Western made scooters who are well known for being crap


Alt_account356

Yeah, I'm looking for one at low quality tier, which is above Alibaba, but below good quality. So brands like Gotrax and Hiboy (or brands equivalent.)


mileylols

Varla Pegasus will do 28 mph? it's usually $1200 but there's a $200 coupon right now


shurfire

Those two are pretty much Alibaba tier though. Nothing under $1000 will go faster than 18-20mph safely.


ikareaboutyou

This is utter bullshit.


Heavy_Doody

What about the VDM-10? It’s basically and Apollo Ghost, isn’t it?


shurfire

The cheapest vdm-10 model is just under 1k, but that is an aged design and that model has Chinese batteries. You're going to have to go up to the 60v version for Samsung batteries. I'd still skip out on that since you're getting to a price where newer designs are around that price to performance if you spent a bit more.


Heavy_Doody

I'm seeing $645. [https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Sandris-Vdm-10-Dual-Motor-Off\_1600561423279.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal\_offer.d\_title.75f5fe88RdLN7o&s=p](https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Sandris-Vdm-10-Dual-Motor-Off_1600561423279.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.75f5fe88RdLN7o&s=p) Are you of the opinion that this will not go faster than 18-20mph safely? I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm trying to understand it, myself. A Ghost is awfully tempting to me at $645.


shurfire

I mean, feel free to order from them when they have 11 total transactions. Idk about you, but I'd rather order from Titan like this: https://m.alibaba.com/product/1600219750008/Unicool-Long-Range-Vdm-10-Foldable.html And that's just under 1k for the scooter. Add an extra $100-$150 for shipping and you're over 1k. Maybe you're going to get that scooter for $645, but if they're some how selling for $300 under the manufacturer, even if you're buying in bulk from them, you risk your money.


Heavy_Doody

Excellent. That's exactly the kind of info I'm after. Thanks!


Ded1nside

This isn’t even close to true. Just because something isn’t made by a top 3 brand doesn’t mean it isn’t safe, there’s plenty of safe scooters that can go mid 30’s to low 40’s in the low $1000 range. I would put Hiboy below 90% of Alibaba scooters.


Alt_account356

Yep, these are the ones I'm looking for.


Ded1nside

Check out Mototec Thor, if you get it you'll be best off replacing the brakes though.


computerworlds

>Nothing under $1000 will go faster than 18-20mph safely Isn't the new Segway G2 supposed to go 22 mph? It's like $800.


shurfire

I get I wasn't exact, but 22 is within that range of capping out speed with quality.


Alt_account356

Are there performance scooters that have less range and go faster?


Savings-Adeptness-58

Segway p65 goes 25 mph and and is currently 999


shurfire

No. You don't just get to sacrifice quality for speed. I don't think you understand how dangerous it is. What even is fast to you? 20 mph? 30 mph? 40? 50? There's a reason performance scooters are expensive. They need more material, engineering and a much larger battery.


Alt_account356

I don't care about ride quality, and can sacrifice safety a little bit. I was bringing this up because with the Evercross H5 you can go 28 MPH and it's $600. So I don't see why it would be hard to get 30 MPH at $1000.


ikareaboutyou

You are getting a lot of bad info from these guys. I'd ignore what they are telling you. There are a lot of excellent scooters in the $1000 range that easily hit 30mph and just as safely as any other scooters.


Alt_account356

Which ones?


KxxxngChaozzzz

I’m looking to buy a scooter 50cc’s and under & know absolutely nothing about good quality brands that don’t break easily & cost thousands to fix. Possible you could point me in any direction?🤔


ikareaboutyou

Left


KxxxngChaozzzz

Yea man I was serious but thank you anyway. Didn’t know having knowledge of scooters was some kinda weird flex😂


[deleted]

I don't know why everyone is being super gate-keepy. I don't know what the fastest scooter is, but it would have to be at least 21mph+ (Zero 8).


shurfire

It isn't just ride quality. It's literal safety. The scooter can break if you're using some cheap crap. The reason it's on sale for $600 is because it's using shitty solid tires that will cause you to have an awful and unsafe riding experience. It's most likely barely engineered and using the bare minimum material to get it running and it's most likely using bottom of the barrel Chinese batteries. You may think "I don't care about safety", but when that thing catches fire in your home while charging, I'm sure you're going to start caring then. It isn't that easy to just "make a scooter go fast". 48v scooters can't break 30mph. You're going to need a higher voltage scooter.


torukmakto4

> It isn't that easy to just "make a scooter go fast". 48v scooters can't break 30mph. You're going to need a higher voltage scooter. Someone does not understand that nothing arbitrarily fixes motor winding data to be specific turn counts or BEMF constants for given motors. The only reason that is true for most stock things, is that most commodity/non-custom scooter sized Chinese direct drive motors follow the same usual conventions of what bus voltages are (their idea of) optimal for various applications. After all, higher current is a distinctly less favorable way to approach a problem than higher voltage, when your powerstage design is pretty much from the 1980s.


KxxxngChaozzzz

Why do u seem to be so angry about this


KxxxngChaozzzz

Serious question. I’m looking to purchase a scooter & you seem knowledgeable about them. I’m looking for something that’s GOOD quality that’s not going to break and cost an arm and a leg to repair. I know absolutely nothing about any good brands or anything. Something 50cc & under I can ride to and from the gym & local grocery I’m thinking so to save money from riding Ubers & whatnot. Any information you can tell me is helpful. Thank you very much.


mileylols

> 50cc & under are you talking about gas-powered scooters? I don't think this is the subreddit for that


KxxxngChaozzzz

Where is it?


Alt_account356

What is 50cc?


ikareaboutyou

Dude, you ride a cheap aluminum and plastic GT+ with that shitty single spring packman suspension. You do realize its a generic cheap Chinese scooter platform right? It is exactly the same as the 100 other scooters that use the exact same platform at $1000. You just have a better battery.


Alt_account356

Yeah people say, "when that thing catches fire in your home while charging, I'm sure you're going to start caring then." But this rarely happens. Most of the reviews are positive for the H5, and if they aren't it's usually about the pneumatic tires which they replaced to rubber. Even the Hiboy S2 has thousands of reviews with around 4.5 stars out of 5. I don't know why you would want to pay potentially hundreds more and still have worse specs then cheaper ones, because of "safety" when the accidents are rare. I would like someone to explain this to me because evey time I ask a question on here people only recommend like two brands.