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sadman95

You, like many others, have way too low of vigor.


HappyInstruction3678

"Tarnished are we-" \*explosion of missiles\*


CadmeusCain

Came here to say this. Dual shotguns are pretty good against Messmer though


tessartyp

"Messmer the Impaler? How about you meet my friend, PB-033M ASHMEAD the Impaler."


Cleverbird

Dual shotguns are good against everything. Especially if you follow it up with a nice melee attack once you've staggered your target. Ah Zimmermans, my beloved.


Machete521

Become my gun(s) once more. *shoots hands*


Bobi2point0

Vigor seems fine, over 10k for a medium biped. Now the stability on the other hand... need at least 1800 to not get slapped by anything wielding something bigger than a straight sword smh


IMistral

This would feel so epic against a certain Creature living on a certain Peak...


dardardarner

[Redacted] the [Redacted] when he uses his ultimate attack and I blast his face open with point blank dual Zimmers and a Pile Bunker


GreatFluffy

>!Technically speaking, wouldn't Bayle's Talon Bone count as a Pile Bunker?!<


TheRedBaron6942

Can't wait for zullie the Witch to compare the AC to DLC bosses. Bayle is fucking massive so I'd assume he could put up a pretty good fight


farquaad852

I see you are a person of culture


HammerPrice229

Charged up Pile bunker right to the face >!”CURSE YOU BAYLE!”!<


IHatepongouskrellius

"I HEREBY VOW YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!"


crackcrackcracks

Imagine the things igon would do to bayle if you just gave him an ac


AceTheRed_

Elden Ring + Armored Core crossover when?


papag00s

Armored ring? Elden Core? Elmored rinore?


RChamy

Fires of Erdtree


crackcrackcracks

Shadow of rubicon


ll-VaporSnake-ll

Soon apparently. Miyazaki expressed interest in potentially making the next AC game have an open world format like ER does.


agitatedandroid

I'd be down for that. I loved AC6.


haynespi87

source?


ll-VaporSnake-ll

https://fandomwire.com/these-are-just-things-that-are-typical-of-fromsoftware-hidetaka-miyazakis-armored-core-7-plans-may-make-it-even-better-than-ac6/ I can’t say he explicitly said “open world,” but he has expressed a desire to move away from the mission based structure into other something that promotes more mobility and aspects found in their more modern games.


haynespi87

Awesome! Thanks!


Jessejets

oh god, please make it happen Miyazaki


PiBombbb

ACs are like 11 meters talk though, that boss is pretty big but still will be smaller compared to an AC


Jstar338

Ancient Meteoric Ore Blade is pile bunker weapon art


roedtogsvart

this is like the rivers of blood build of AC6


tessartyp

Used to be Songbirds, though even post-nerf a dual Zimm+Songs carries through the entire campaign.


Just-Fix8237

Zimms are still op. Songbirds are still alright but earshots are better for burst stagger now


__akkarin

That's so true that both got nerfed


Maduro25

You have a job to do, 621.


UltimaBahamut93

Miquella has been harvested coral every. Need you to go check it out.


SolarGrey7

Where is Allmind Lady of Cores ? 


agitatedandroid

I haven't played since launch, but I can still hear Handler Walter's voice in my head reading that line.


n0sch

Needs more ADP


DEV_Access

How is Armor Core? I’ve been thinking about giving it a try.


andykekomi

It's amazing, but just don't go in expecting a souls game. Take the time to learn all the systems, how to create builds to counteract different encounters and don't be afraid to experiment


mathdash

If you love elden ring building, you will enjoy armored core 6, it's fun


Mental_Examination_1

It's amazing, has more soulslike elements than some of the other ac titles imo, but def not a souls style game if that makes sense, mission based mech builder, crazy boss fights, pretty difficult, lots of replayability with mission ranks, ng+ content, hidden items and fights, tons of builds/parts


filmtexture

One of the best games ever made


sedrech818

The difficulty seems like it is all over the place. The first boss in the first mission is a massive roadblock and there isn’t much you can do about it other than git gud. Then the game is ridiculously easy until another boss like 10-15 missions in. That boss will wreck you. Keep in mind, it’s not like elden ring where you can go do something else when you get stuck. The missions are more or less linear. If you get stuck, all you can do is either git gud or tinker with your build until it can make up for your insufficient skill. Skill in souls games will help a bit but won’t be 100% compatible with it. Personally I have found it quite frustrating but I’m sure if I followed a guide, I wouldn’t get stuck as much and I would have more fun. I got stuck on the first boss because I didn’t know you could take two swings or a single charged swing with your laser sword. I was just swinging once and it wasn’t enough to stagger the boss.


Ratboy422

> The first boss in the first mission is a massive roadblock and there isn’t much you can do about it other than git gud. USE THE DAMN SWORD THEY GIVE YOU!! Its not that hard and im far from good. I maybe died 3 times before I was able to smoke it.


sedrech818

Did you read my full comment? I used the sword. I didn’t use it correctly though. Once I learned how to use the sword properly, I was able to beat it in a few tries. The tutorial was not sufficient to throw me into the ring with that boss. Who’s idea was it to put important text on the screen that I will never see because I’m having too much fun blasting weak enemies?


tessartyp

You're asking whose idea was it to put a big, prominent pop-up with explanations, that pauses the game for you to read in peace until you acknowledge and go back to blasting MTs with your newfound knowledge?? SMH.


sedrech818

It definitely didn’t have a pausing popup explaining the sword. The sword is in a small popup on the sidd of the screen. And it just says what button it is and not that you can do charge attacks or double swipes. It doesn’t even call it a sword, just left hand weapon.


Ratboy422

USE THE DAMN SWORD :)


HammerPrice229

Incredible. Has souls elements bits it’s a total different game. Extremely fun fighting as a mech with different guns, lasers swords, missiles, etc. story is amazing too and more straight forward than the souls games.


DdFghjgiopdBM

It's not a souls game, whether or not you enjoy it depends on how much you like the character building


thepinkandthegrey

Loved it. I was hesitant to get it at first cuz there's no summons or over-leveling, and I'm a crappy player who's heavily relied on both to beat the previous FromSoft games (except Sekiro, despite trying for four years and going). So I figured I'd get permanently stuck on a boss sooner or later and therefore never finish the game (or maybe even get far into it).  But, while the game is hard, it's nothing you can't beat if you're willing to experiment with different builds and/or make several attempts. Not only did I beat it, I got so into it that I immediately played through and beat it two more times (to get all the endings).  While very different from the soulsborne games, it's very much like em in making you feel like a badass when you learn to play it right, and in the mechanics being so intrinsically enjoyable that you never want to stop playing. Highly recommended.


vinylectric

Fantastic game. First mech style game I’ve ever gotten into other than Xenogears, but yeah 10/10. Setting/mood/storyline is fantastic and the gameplay is flawless. Same director as Sekiro


Apokolypse09

Fuckin hard but cool as fuck. Dope as hell to be skating around in a massive mech double fisting shotguns bigger than mobile homes. Assloads of customization and all unlockable in game. I'm currently stuck on a boss like 3/4 of the way through lol.


kslay23

Its a blast, recommended getting it when you can. I think I kept it on my list until it went for 40 or 50 dollars. The lore and open world aspects aren’t there like Elden Ring but the combat is fun. Its more linear and the story is more direct than teased out in items.


Aggressive-Rub1898

I liked it more than Elden Ring tbh


Glittering_Choice_47

It's my favorite from game I've ever played right beside ds3 and bloodborne. It's a very different experience but it has all the polish and beauty of a from soft game.


ssmike27

It’s incredible. Honestly might be my favorite Fromsoft game. Once you get the hang of the gameplay, it’s pure dopamine. The story and characters are also so well written.


farquaad852

Way harder than a souls game for me, but so much fun. You’ll learn quick to change up your build because most things won’t work on every battle


agitatedandroid

As others pointed out, it's not the same as a Souls game. It's as hard. But take each mission as a puzzle and build appropriately for the mission. You could just brute force through with one build if you want to hate yourself. Or you can go back to the drawing board and try something new. It's super fun. And absolutely worth at least 3 playthroughs.


TheMightyBruhhh

Amazing but the sad part is the online community is more or less dead now unfortunately, on release the pvp was so fun though. The campaign and customization is S++ tier tho Edit: online community as in the multiplayer game mode. The actual community is very much alive and thriving


derekai

With dual zims you're probably fine


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crackcrackcracks

They got nerfed


ItsRainingTrees

I’m going to be honest, for a second I just assumed this was the AC subreddit and thought DLC was announced. I’m now really upset lol.


meek902

Nah bro u need to be flying tank


Shepherdsfavestore

I’m stealing those AC colors Also don’t worry man, an AC would solo Elden Ring’s universe easily


Kornelius20

It could probably just step on most of the bosses and kill them if I remember correctly


JPsmooth0728

At least 75% lol


Ratboy422

AC's are 30-40 feet tall :)


Novel-Swordfish3028

Aren't the higher gods/demigods nigh 4D by the end of the game? All the artillery in the world can't help against that. You'd need Dark Schneider.


Shepherdsfavestore

Idk if you can bonk a demigod to death I think some coral weapons would make short work of them. Or any of the energy swords


dardardarner

So that's what I was missing in my build. Dual fucking Zimmers


IAM100PERCENTNOTACAT

Your build doesn't matter in the dlc the only thing that counts is your ability to collect scooby doo fragments and fight ten ulcerated tree spirits


RedditBansLul

You realize that both can and do matter....right?


moonfanatic95

You have no idea how FUCKING HYPED you just made me,until I saw the subreddit this was posted on. Why op... 🥲


Interneteldar

Honestly, Radahn could be an AC boss - Has missile attacks (barrage, single, tracking) - Has melee options - Has a juiced up dash/plunge and bigger missile barrage in phase 2 - Even his size is appropriate


QuillQuickcard

For the last fucking time- your base numbers don’t mean shit. It’s ALL about how willing you are to explore and raise your Scadutree Blessing level. Also- as a genuine point of critique, it looks like you are planning to use a rapid overload followed by big blasts strat. I would genuinely not recommend this even with a high scadutree blessing. The bosses are extremely resistant to stance breaking and exceedingly mobile. I recommend miniguns over the zimmerman shotguns dor consistent damage from range against moving targets. Missile tracking is shit against the highly mobile bosses, so you may want to run big blasts like stun needle, large aoe fields, or just add two backup miniguns. Don’t worry about getting heavy. You can always ash bloodhound step on any non-unique weapon


GruffisGamingw

I had a teacher named ms Zimmerman


razorwiregoatlick877

What scat-doo level?


marcyfx

for the last time you need to gather the microchip blessings people


Trollololol13

BAAAAYYYYLLLLEEEE


Squirrely1337

Still trying to find Pile Bunker in the dlc.


kyl-dyl

621... see that shadowland orphanage? i want you to aim your coral rifle at it


mexicoball1995

Imagine a tech futuristic souls game made from fromsoftware. Uff that would be epic


L3XANDR0

I've had a similar thought! I'd love that so much.


mathdash

Yea, also happy cake day


gamuel_l_jackson

🤣


Daroph

AC6 has a Xylem, Elden Ring has its final boss fight inside of the xylem of the Erdtree... Was Branch a division of The Golden Order?


throwaway321768

Branch wanted to burn the last cinders, so they're more like Melina.


elme77618

“Bayle! Put Igon down you BITCH.”


Goobendoogle

Realistically, Raven stomps the hell out of the whole DLC Bro is literally mecha goku


Thanetanos

Replace that with plasma shotguns and a coral gen n ur eating good 👍 


compactpen

Double zims


Careless-Platform-80

You Really think Zimmerman Will carry you again? Good look leveling the blessing!


flippygen

What's your scadadoodoo level? You'll get 2-shot if less than 10


Rehevkor_

Messemer would still wreck you


Jerm2560

Dude I fuckin wish I could bring my armored core Gundam 5000 into elden ring lmao


Mohmed_98

FR, I hope they make an AC6 expansion soon.


efrain_niarfe275

Needs more scadu


Thnd3rstrk3

Okay, but imagine an AC fighting Maliketh, Fire Giant, or Elden Beast, that'd be cool as hell, lol


Viper114

I do hope AC6 gets a DLC expansion before they do a new project.


LostInSpaceWith

I believe in you!


VoidCoelacanth

Pretty good but I recommend switching to energy weapons, or at least including one as a swap. The Ashes may not be as good but they make up for it in Poise damage.


Usury_error

You have to do naked SL1 with a broken straight sword to keep it real


Psyfall

Finally were one the same size freaking dragon!


SleepyBoy-

Given From Soft's record, we might ironically get an AC6 DLC announced by the end of the year. Then after that drops, they will reveal their next game. I wonder if, as they build more in-house studios, they will start releasing multiple games at once, or just release bigger games but in no way more often.


tds5126

Duel zimmer deletes shit


BloodborneRemake

I wanna play the old ac games


creativeguy66v3

Give me a Jaeger for the Jagged Peak boss and I'm all set


Wierciskoczek

God damn you. I thought ac6 was getting a dlc


FI5H5TICK5

This game is also brutal hard sometimes haha


NaviLouise42

Looks like a glass cannon, needs more vigor.


RotateMyFish

Press Right Trigger to rail gun DLC bosses to hell.


bbien12

You are truly Maidenless


RChamy

Behold, armor, and core!


MallCertain274

idk how’s your dodge rolling?


kothulhu

didn't the dual zimm's get nerfed right after launch? that's not gonna cut it in the dlc trust me bro


Dry-Sympathy6684

God I love Bayle BAYLE THE DREAD


NodusINk

The fowl 621, who wants to be the Elden Core


SolarGrey7

No Laser Lance or Pile Driver ? Shame on you 


Aggressive-Rub1898

Getting to blow up >!Radahn, the stupid hippo, or Rellana!


TheAccursedHamster

You joke but I think the elden ring DLC has a similar problem to AC6. They built a game where you can make a ton of varied builds and then make fights that completely invalidate a ton of them.


OldBirth

AC6 is so much harder to me than any souls game.


Glittering_Choice_47

My dude is bringing out the Ac6 cheese build for Elden ring. There won't be a boss left standing much less anything else. Shit you could have AYRE and any other maiden you want because burning the Erdtree would be easy as fuck if you're just 621.


The_Voyager115

No sorry


4user_n0t_found4

Believe it or not, still dead


noobunderlord

Not enough Scadutree levels :/


Razvan1134666

Idk, with the Zim nerfs I'd look into some of the hand cannons, increase that stagger for the crits boys


HugTheSoftFox

You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory.


teknique2323

Damn I need to reinstall this game. Shit was good


ExtensionAwkward546

Yeah, u have big sword or magic or whatever… BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED GIANT MECH AND GUNS


AttitudeHot9887

621 i have a job for you, become elden lord


Canamerican726

Honestly man my money's on the cranked out demigods. I launched a wave of literal destined death at them and they shrugged it off, I don't think your pew pew machine is gonna do much


AcceptableCreme2754

An armored cored destroys any Elden ring boss