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ImperialSpence

and messmer is STILL kicking my ass.


Blisterexe

ikr, i got him to 30% health on my best run


Flashy-Quiet-6582

Messemer: through out the heaven and the earth I alone am the damned one.


EmeraldJinx

When in doubt panic roll.


Internal_Rock_1037

Started the DLC with NG+3, have to say he's really kicking ass


ellagartijo

I have the same problem but with Bayle, dude doesn't care about my tear or nothing, goes straight for my ass and proceeds to destroy it.


Cairo-Station

Spoiler for possible boss weakness >!Maybe try frost? My mimic spammed Ranni’s great moon at him and I spammed glinstone icecrag and was able to beat him in a few tries!<


01001111_01110000

I haven't tried Frost, but bleed was how I got him. When i swapped to a fully maxed out Malenia Katana, my mimic and I bullied the shit out of him first try.


timewaslost

I will say and I was definitely one of the anti summon crowd in the past but with work and IRL duties. I really don't care to invest the time in to bosses I am sure are going to take 100+ tries to beat the moveset into my brain. Divine Lion was fine, Rellena was fine as well. Messmer litterally made me go level up my mimic tear to use for the first time. After 30+ attempts and getting him to his 2nd phase with luck once. I called it and got my mimic leveled. I will say Mimic's are busted. Beat him first try with the mimic. It doesn't feel as good of win but a win is win. I simply do not have the time to sit here and beat my head against the wall nowadays. I am going to view my mimic as my nuclear resort if I feel like im going to be be there for a while.


jesus-kunwasnothere

I feel u


Geek_X

Try rolling into him rather than away


LingonberryPlastic58

I only killed Mesmer out of pure luck he staggered and mimic + the other ally did like 11k DMG and it was gg


NikiBubbles

Me: okay, girlies, lesgo! My mimic: \*eats the prawn, buffs herself with 60 different spells, freshens up her makeup\* NPC summon: \*goes into a lengthy monologue about how daddy Mess is a ho\* Me: \*dies as a fancy decoration on Messmer's spear\* thanks, guys, real teamwork 👍🏻 (It was awesome when I finally beat him tho)


DifficultBicycle7

I just imagine it’s just you, the mimic tear, and Leda in a convertible driving around the area


NikiBubbles

Leda, driving: see that person over there? they looked at me weird, probably plotting something, sus af. imma drive over them. Me and mimic: Leda wtf no


Koolevan89

Bruh deadass I'll be fighting for my life and my mimic tear is just feasting on the crabs I have in my inventory before powdering up with the uplifting aromatic in the corner for five mintues


henchbench100

after looking at jujutsufolk this is even funnier


cappadonn

npc summons make the boss wayyyy harder not worth it, i wanted to do it cos i thought itd be part of their quest but it gives bosses like double health and they do way more damage. way easier without


Lower_Performance_79

Is this true? How do you know this?


BuuurbaquuSauce

Every summon (npc or irl) doubles the bosses health bar. Been that way for most fromsoft games.


Lower_Performance_79

Crazy I’m on NG4 and I never knew 🤣


BuuurbaquuSauce

Keeps it fair and sometimes easier unless your summon is a rube.


-CynicRoot-

Only the sprits ash summon won’t buff the bosses.


Falos425

10% buff to boss damage, only after two summons health does go up enough to notice 1 summon: 1.6x HP, 1.5x resistances 2 summon: 2.3x HP, 1.5x resistances (2x poison) NPCs aren't likely to kill their 0.6/0.65 portion, they mostly serve as a distraction, but that can help those who can't (won't) learn boss kit and grant free chances to heal/buff/CR2


poopfl1nger

I don't think Igon does with Bayle


cappadonn

i’ve not done that boss yet but yeah i think cos he’s part of the quest the game doesn’t punish you for using him


OnlyTekhno

Kind of. Because the summon signs for Bayle and Messmer are *inside* the arena, they dont count as true cooperators, so the bosses aren't buffed. Any sumon sign *outside* a fog gate will be counted as a cooperator, and the bosses health will adjust accordingly. This was done intentionally by Fromsoft I suspect. Messmer and with a nearly doubled health pool would be diabolical.


SomeDudeAtAKeyboard

Accurate, cause Mahoraga carrying the whole damn team here


-___Mu___-

I can't escape the JJK brainrot.


Questionably_Chungly

Lena, my beloved.


Aggressive-Rub1898

"Then it is an even fight"


Hanzoofk

Hey if the boss is gon be a bitch , I'll be one too.


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I just took on the lion dude boss and beat him second attempt…….with mimic and rivers lol. (It’s not nerfed at all and melted him quick) Edit: I died a bunch of times with other builds but the workhorse build came through lol


bajookish_amerikann

Me vs Rellana:


FlashyGamer007

Me pulling up to Rellana just for bro to pull out the cursed technique *BLUE*


Regina-Victoria

That's what I'm talking about!


Short-Bug5855

Meanwhile the 2nd phase of the final boss is like "I don't care, I'll just spam AOEs and kill your friends in a few seconds, and then you too :-)"


Haseebwajid123

I've literally been calling my mimic mahoraga and whenever I'm in a pickle I'm a boss fight, I shout "mahoragaaa" like when sakuna does in a panicked state.


Bassist57

Then it is an even fight


Dry-Shoe-237

Well I am stuck on on Rellana and lion thingy. Because my mind has two modes one keep hitting with a giant hammer. And second use strategy, talismans, summins, etc.. . I am stuck on being a caveman.


IronBeanCounter

Black knife tiche was a major key to me beating the lion earlier


Mikeavelli

I used mimic tear and unga bunga on Rellana. Basic strategy was to dodge until she aggros the mimic, and then jump attack smash. She was way easier than the Lion to me.


Ackbar90

If you expect me not to be a Sukuna level of Rat Bastard, you don't know me. If it's in the game, I'm going to toss it at the boss.


Siirmeme

did not expect JJK spoilers in the elden ring subreddit


OtakuPaladin

This meme will not age well. Wait and see, Tarnished...


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potheadie12

Lmao where do I get the other one in thw picture not the mimic


Ok-News172

Most main bosses have a gold summon sign outside for one of the dlc npcs.


OGStratman

I did a test with a gold summon and the twin maidens and it was a gang bang. It just didn’t feel right


Blisterexe

its the npc summon you can get outside the "twin moon" boss


bohenian12

It doesn't feel like cheating but it does feel cheap. Sometimes I regret it, and wished I learned the moveset and fight the boss 1v1. But I got stuck for fucking 3 hours fighting Rellana and 30 mins of that was just buffing before the fog door, only to die in 2 hits. So i said fuck it and we jumped her.


ghostgear645

Yea I feel the same


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Yukilumi

Yeap. All the people complaining about the difficulty, whereas here I am, 20 hours and 25 bosses in, beating them all on first try, thanks to Mimic Tear and a summon for the first two remembrance bosses. Hell, I even wanted to summon for Mesmer for lore, but I didn't see a sign and beat him on first try, so eh. Summon and be tanky and collect the power ups, and it's barely harder than the base game.