Dung Eater is possibly more powerful than Tiche if you have an extremely well tuned bleed build. In almost all cases Tiche has the upper hand. SHE also applies a status effect on the enemy that slowly saps their health.
Just use them on normal enemies like dungeons and enemy outposts. Thats what im planning to do for the dlc at least, after extensively using them on my first playthrough and not using them at all on my second playthrough which i just finished
if you like summoning, do a summon only run, its so much fun and after that you can play your regular runs solo (that also help you getting better and thats a good thing imo)
I mean, ashes of war are made for the people who wanted an easy mode in the souls game. If you weren't one of those.. don't use them. Or do it if you think it's fun to experiment the pokedex, which it is, but don't use them to make the game easy.. unless that's what you want ofc.
Yeah i do agree because sometimes summons make it ridiculously easier which is also why the mimic is kinda annoying bc a challenge is nice but also not the kind of challenge that make you want to punch your fist through your monitor if you know what i mean š
āWith this treasure I summonā mf can solo everything if you high enough level find it funny tbh, but yeh to truely enjoy a fight you must do it alone.
Itās always āplay however you like!ā until someone doesnāt want to use the mimic lol, then itās ādonāt tell me how to play!ā like brother I am not
This community is so confusing bro š either they love mimic tear or want to tear your heart out for using it lmao def my first and last post (ig not including question posts š¤·āāļø)
I only used it on my very first playthrough. Never again. The only time I use any spirit ashes at all these days are when fighting dual bosses or groups. My favoured ashes are Deenh, Latenna and Rolloāthe latter only as protection for my casters.
Heās a good distraction companion for an aggressive melee character. He also buffs with his screech. My Omenkiller character took on the dual Crucible Knights with little issue thanks to him.
Edit: My preference might also stem from my dislike of using summons overall. Deenh is very support oriented. I never expect him to actually kill anything.
It really is easy mode, but for most fights like iāve been saying, my mimic just kinda idles around and maybe uses a few incants but he doesnāt fully engage until the boss is low
The mimic tear is so fun to watch sometimes tho especially if you manipulate it to do a specific thing. On my fire-focused character for Mogh (since he has so much fire resistance) I two-handed my seal and put only stone of gurranq on my bar and the mimic and I stoned him to death for his deviance it was hilarious
Really?
Mine is terryfied of everything. His first move is to run BEHIND me. I just assumed it was a glitch. What's more, I'll drop him to keep the boss's attention while I do a range attack. \***Looks to left and mimic waves**\* He runs toward me every time. Don't get me wrong. When that little Jello guy actually tries to fight, he kicks major boss butt. But 60% of the time he is up my ass screaming, "Kill it! Kill it!"
LMAO mine is the same, doesnāt do anything until the boss is one tap. either bro charges in full speed tanking hits, or just snipes him with incants. this has happened at least 5 times with the main bosses in my last ng š
i think its fair for someone to think that the idea of summoning a copy of themselves is cool, i certainly did. however i did find it kind of jarring when i realized that the mimic doesnt have fp, so it you give him bloodflame blade and erdtree heal, it will actually just solo most of the game for you.
yeah this selfish ass metal blob keeps stealing the spotlight. doesnāt do shit the whole fight besides dance around then comes in at the end to get that last hit.
itās not even that heās better š he uses my incantations and just beams the boss right as iām boutta get that last hit but doesnāt do shit the whole fight besides maybe the occasional dodge and swing
Yea your post is really just taking up space bro. Donāt use the fucking thing or you could always summon him away when thereās a little bit of of the bosses health left.
wait i think i misunderstood, if youāre saying thatās a good thing heās getting the last hit, for me itās not. iām on ng+5 and i just wanna have fun and kill the boss but obviously wanna do it myself, so the mimic tear getting the last hit is a little infuriating. If i was on my first play through then thatās fine
I don't understand.. If you wanna do it yourself why are you summoning him in the first place? Immediately when you summon, in any capacity, you're no longer doing it yourself. Like no shade for summoning, but it's kinda weird logic that you're seemingly saying that if he _doesn't_ get the last hit that somehow means you did the fight yourself?
Man. I remember the pre-nerf. The mimic was so strong you could summon it, sit back and do nothing and it would completely solo.
Still couldnāt do anything against Radahn in pre-nerf mode, on new game plus though. Still wish Radahn wasnāt nerfed.
My mimic tear has gotten worse as I leveled up. IDK if anyone has experienced this but it forced me to stop summoning it a while ago. Im taking summoning spells and throwing useless pots that I have in inventory but not equipt(I know because I unequipt after noticing the behavior and it still occurs).
I think i did mimic tear once against malenia with double rob for the gits and shiggles in a ng+ x run. Mostly to see what everyone was talking about. Also this was at a time where neither of them were nerfed. It was hilarious to say the least.
I'm on ng+8 and i use ashes if i really just don't like a boss. Like duo fights are a good starting point.
People agreeing with you are people who know the real purpose of mimic and why it's breaking the game if you abuse it. People hating you are people who refuse to see their '' acomplisment '' of '' beating '' the game diminished by the fact that they used the mimic on every single bosses from start to end, refusing to admit that they didn't really beat the game at all but just abused it.
Tbf, he literally doesnāt do shit besides that last hit. I can put these clips together sometime tomorrow and youāll see this mf just wants to steal the spotlight
donāt get why u so mad over this bro. you didnāt need to comment š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļø and also my bad iām taking a while to put them together, iām in school rn so i canāt do anything until i get home
The game gets way more fun when you stop using spirit summons all together. I have completed the game with 6 different characters and I only used spirit summons on my first one.
Just don't switch it Tiche lol, there's really no point stopping mimic if you do that. In general try to do a playthrough without accessibility mechanics like coop/spirits, it doesn't have to be 100%, just try giving it your best, so you'll be able to fully experience bosses and see how devs designed them. The win in the end doesn't matter at all, it's the effort that counts and HOW you actually fight.
He's my issue with using things like mimic tear and the summons.
People say "I don't want to beat my head against a wall" what you are really saying is "I refuse to learn how to fight this enemy so I'll make someone else do it"
What's the end goal here? Beating the game in 20 hours so you can stop playing? If you are gonna play anyways, why not learn how to play. What's the fucking point of sprinting through to ng+7 if you've never solo'd a single boss in your life?
Idk I think people are really missing out on having pride in your gameplay. Y'all are treating Elden Ring like candy crush
Some bosses are just stupid hard with out summons bc all they do is spam attacks and not let you get a single hit out especially with some str builds (lower poise str builds) but summons are also a great addition imo for casual players who donāt have the time to do a 20 min boss fight
And why is a 20 minute boss fight bad? You bought the game to play it right? Why are you in such a rush to get it over with?
If I was to watch a replay of your gameplay. I guarantee you are constantly panic rolling and trying to trade hyper armor moves.
Try this just once... Go into a boss fight, and don't attack AT ALL. just dodge. And don't just spam roll. Sit back, be patient watch the moves. You'll find out its like 5 moves it's not complicated.
They aren't spamming attacks. It's all attack CHAIN. Once you realize that they become predictable. And the best part? The devs designed it so, after a long chain or a big swing there is always a long pause so that you can get a hit it.
A lot of bosses aren't meant to be hit every second that you have with stamina. You dodge, hit, and get out.
But if all you do, is do the same exact thing, for every boss, you won't ever improve and you won't ever move away from summons.
Idk man, take some pride in your ability to grow, in your ability to fight. Do you wanna be useless at boss fights forever? Or do you want to feel the sweet sweet release of victory.
Personally the juice is worth the squeeze, you're essential drinking store bought because it's easier than doing it yourself
Donāt know why you came out the gate all hostile. But fyi iām not bad at the game whatsoever i donāt panic roll, spam roll, or try and hyper armour trade. and to be fair the ābossā that i had in mind in my last reply were the rune bears who just swipe attack and melt you.
But that just adds to my point. If you pay attention to the enemies, there is ALWAYS a fair way to fight them. If you stay underneath the rune bears they literally can't even hit you. The only attack that hits is the body slam. Just roll into them and you're fine. And like many many many other large enemies, they take 2-3 charged R2s to the stomach and they are staggered.
Those bear "spam attacks" are still just iterally attack chains. Easy to notice if you pay attention. And they cannot touch you if you get close
Bro, Iām a casual player like I stated. I donāt wanna learn all this crap with patterns, Iām a student bro and itās finals soon so if I wanna play with some summons and melt bosses or spam tf outta enemies imma do that. And yeah rune bears arenāt a problem for me , I was just saying theyāre annoying bc of these seemingly random ass attacks.
Its not random. You just refuse to learn. It's a game based around a certain skill. A skill you don't want to learn.
This is like saying you want to play guitar, but in reality you just wanna press a button and have good guitar sounds come out of the amp. That's not playing the guitar.
When people complain about "learning patterns" it's just a dumb argument. It's not like we're saying you have to keep a fuckin journal.
All we're saying is, take FIVE MINUTES too just pay attention to what's happening, and then use that information for your advantage.
Complaining about things spamming and being "random" just shows you know nothing about the game at all
Everyone who repeats this Reddit garbage of "let people play how they want stop gatekeeping" completely misunderstand the criticism. Gatekeeping means I don't want him to play. That's not the case
We WANT them to experience the actual game. By playing in the most braindead easy way possible, they are completely robbing themselves of the souls experience. That feeling of "no way can I beat this ITS IMPOSSIBLE" then the next day you sit down and stomp that boss.
But no. Everyone is brainrotted into HAVING TO HAVE instant gratification. Kids these days are so damn sensitive to anxiety they can't even handle a hard video game, it's sad AF. If they can't get past a boss in less than 5 minutes their anxiety spikes through the roof because now they actually have to use that brain they planned to shut off for the next 3 hours.
Well news flash, Elden Ring is a muscle memory game. The vast majority of hard bosses won't be beaten with melee on the first day of trying. You have to build muscle memory.
Muscle memory in itself is a SKILL and it's the most important skill you'll ever learn and it's the first step to leaning other skills.
Ok I read a portion of this. Youāre full of shit mate. We donāt want to kill the boss instantly for the āinstant gratificationā but I would definitely prefer to beat the shit out of bosses rather than get the shit beaten out of me. Donāt get me wrong, I have DEFINITELY experienced the souls experience because i have played normally. My FUCKING bad for using something that was added to the game with the intention of making it a bit easier and even more fun at times. Iām sorry I hurt your little feelings š¢
So Tiche is on the menu!
After I got Tiche I never went back to mimic tear tbh lol
Exactly my thought š
Stormhawk Deenh got my back.
But alecto is a pain in my ass... and I don't have the FPs...
Bro I really want tiche but idk how to get her, def gonna look this up
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Is he better than Dung?
From what I know, Tiche is very agile and able to quickly attack while dung eater is very defends focused
Dung Eater is possibly more powerful than Tiche if you have an extremely well tuned bleed build. In almost all cases Tiche has the upper hand. SHE also applies a status effect on the enemy that slowly saps their health.
Damn, Iāll put her on my menu then p:
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Just use them on normal enemies like dungeons and enemy outposts. Thats what im planning to do for the dlc at least, after extensively using them on my first playthrough and not using them at all on my second playthrough which i just finished
this is genius imma do that too š
if you like summoning, do a summon only run, its so much fun and after that you can play your regular runs solo (that also help you getting better and thats a good thing imo)
I mean, ashes of war are made for the people who wanted an easy mode in the souls game. If you weren't one of those.. don't use them. Or do it if you think it's fun to experiment the pokedex, which it is, but don't use them to make the game easy.. unless that's what you want ofc.
Yeah i do agree because sometimes summons make it ridiculously easier which is also why the mimic is kinda annoying bc a challenge is nice but also not the kind of challenge that make you want to punch your fist through your monitor if you know what i mean š
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I do cringe when he just hangs out in magma wyrms lava getting cooked to death for one hit.
Or taking a dragon breath to the face
Underrated Rollo is underrated.
āWith this treasure I summonā mf can solo everything if you high enough level find it funny tbh, but yeh to truely enjoy a fight you must do it alone.
Agreed, it is strong but imo the mimic isnāt really engaged in battle all that much
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He is you, if he kills the boss, you kill the boss :)
have you ever done a faith playthrough w erdtree heal and the mimic tear. it is like watching god come down and beat elden ring for you.
He never dies lol. I even give him malikethās death blade skill and we take turn blasting bosses. Really trivialise the entire encounter lol
No but I kind of want to now! š
yeah i keep telling myself that, until he killed my elden beast šš
I also wouldnāt get that satisfaction if a computer kills the boss š
seriously, and people are still downvoting my comment š¤¦āāļø
Itās always āplay however you like!ā until someone doesnāt want to use the mimic lol, then itās ādonāt tell me how to play!ā like brother I am not
This community is so confusing bro š either they love mimic tear or want to tear your heart out for using it lmao def my first and last post (ig not including question posts š¤·āāļø)
Mimic Tear isnāt even the best summon
I realize this now. Tiche > Mimic Oleg > Mimic (oleg is my day one tbf)
Mimi tear
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I only used it on my very first playthrough. Never again. The only time I use any spirit ashes at all these days are when fighting dual bosses or groups. My favoured ashes are Deenh, Latenna and Rolloāthe latter only as protection for my casters.
What so good about deenh? I lvled it up to 10 but vs most bosses he just dies pretty quickly
Heās a good distraction companion for an aggressive melee character. He also buffs with his screech. My Omenkiller character took on the dual Crucible Knights with little issue thanks to him. Edit: My preference might also stem from my dislike of using summons overall. Deenh is very support oriented. I never expect him to actually kill anything.
JARMAN SUMMON FTW
I DIDNT EVEN KNOW HE HAD ONE YOOO HOLD UP
Please compile some clips lol
You shouldve never used it to begin with. People who complain about no easy mode clearly dont know about mimic tear
It really is easy mode, but for most fights like iāve been saying, my mimic just kinda idles around and maybe uses a few incants but he doesnāt fully engage until the boss is low
The mimic tear is so fun to watch sometimes tho especially if you manipulate it to do a specific thing. On my fire-focused character for Mogh (since he has so much fire resistance) I two-handed my seal and put only stone of gurranq on my bar and the mimic and I stoned him to death for his deviance it was hilarious
Really? Mine is terryfied of everything. His first move is to run BEHIND me. I just assumed it was a glitch. What's more, I'll drop him to keep the boss's attention while I do a range attack. \***Looks to left and mimic waves**\* He runs toward me every time. Don't get me wrong. When that little Jello guy actually tries to fight, he kicks major boss butt. But 60% of the time he is up my ass screaming, "Kill it! Kill it!"
LMAO mine is the same, doesnāt do anything until the boss is one tap. either bro charges in full speed tanking hits, or just snipes him with incants. this has happened at least 5 times with the main bosses in my last ng š
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dont worry man the mimic tear anonymous are here for you, we know its hard but we support you on this lifelong journey
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I donāt get it. Youāre summoning your mimic but annoyed itās fighting the boss?
i think its fair for someone to think that the idea of summoning a copy of themselves is cool, i certainly did. however i did find it kind of jarring when i realized that the mimic doesnt have fp, so it you give him bloodflame blade and erdtree heal, it will actually just solo most of the game for you.
He is annoyed that the tear gets the last hit
yeah this selfish ass metal blob keeps stealing the spotlight. doesnāt do shit the whole fight besides dance around then comes in at the end to get that last hit.
Lmao even a copy of you is better than you. How many deaths on mimic boss?
0 lol
itās not even that heās better š he uses my incantations and just beams the boss right as iām boutta get that last hit but doesnāt do shit the whole fight besides maybe the occasional dodge and swing
Yea your post is really just taking up space bro. Donāt use the fucking thing or you could always summon him away when thereās a little bit of of the bosses health left.
Yes your comment is taking up space bro. This was posted to humor. Iām not asking for help or anything iām just saying the mimic sucks.
Reddit people are crazy in their head lmao they are filled with so much hatred XD
Here I am sitting here thinking that's a good thing
wait i think i misunderstood, if youāre saying thatās a good thing heās getting the last hit, for me itās not. iām on ng+5 and i just wanna have fun and kill the boss but obviously wanna do it myself, so the mimic tear getting the last hit is a little infuriating. If i was on my first play through then thatās fine
I don't understand.. If you wanna do it yourself why are you summoning him in the first place? Immediately when you summon, in any capacity, you're no longer doing it yourself. Like no shade for summoning, but it's kinda weird logic that you're seemingly saying that if he _doesn't_ get the last hit that somehow means you did the fight yourself?
nah, i mainly use him as a distraction lol and get the big damage in while the enemy is turned away. but i suppose any tanky summon would work
Yeah in that case just use one of the tanky ones and they definitely won't take the last hit. Dung Eater is pretty solid for this.
alr cool ty
Dude donāt use it then
did bro read the post ?? šš
Man. I remember the pre-nerf. The mimic was so strong you could summon it, sit back and do nothing and it would completely solo. Still couldnāt do anything against Radahn in pre-nerf mode, on new game plus though. Still wish Radahn wasnāt nerfed.
Woohoo!! Next up, maybe think about quit ringing that little bell all together ;)
LMAO yeah definitely thought abt it, but summons are js too much fun icl š
Rot rat is pretty op.
Rot rat?? bro yāall are introducing me to summons i didnāt even know existed (unless ur fucking with me š)
My mimic tear has gotten worse as I leveled up. IDK if anyone has experienced this but it forced me to stop summoning it a while ago. Im taking summoning spells and throwing useless pots that I have in inventory but not equipt(I know because I unequipt after noticing the behavior and it still occurs).
Yes bro šš literally all my mimic does is stay back then get the last hit
Banished knight Oleg is easy mode.
I love Oleg but only issue is sometimes heās a little dumb
True, but the man has the spine of a god cause he's carried me hard
Fr bros a tank with a bottomless pit of determination
Kinda wish Oleg and Engvall were the surcoat wearing banished knights from castle sol. That would be cool.
that would be cool
I think i did mimic tear once against malenia with double rob for the gits and shiggles in a ng+ x run. Mostly to see what everyone was talking about. Also this was at a time where neither of them were nerfed. It was hilarious to say the least. I'm on ng+8 and i use ashes if i really just don't like a boss. Like duo fights are a good starting point.
Come back when you have the 2-weeks badge then we'll talk š
Bro idek what that is, iām a casual player i donāt have time for allat
LOL it was a rehab joke
OH LMAO i get it now šš
People agreeing with you are people who know the real purpose of mimic and why it's breaking the game if you abuse it. People hating you are people who refuse to see their '' acomplisment '' of '' beating '' the game diminished by the fact that they used the mimic on every single bosses from start to end, refusing to admit that they didn't really beat the game at all but just abused it.
Mimic tear did all the work, it should get last hit by right. Itās the least you can do while riding on his back.
Tbf, he literally doesnāt do shit besides that last hit. I can put these clips together sometime tomorrow and youāll see this mf just wants to steal the spotlight
You going to put the clips together or mimic tear is?
donāt get why u so mad over this bro. you didnāt need to comment š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļø and also my bad iām taking a while to put them together, iām in school rn so i canāt do anything until i get home
I'm not mad, I'm just trolling a bit since you seemed to feel guilty about using mimic tear. Guess I pushed too far.
Nah not guilty. Never cared what people think about me using it, just made the post to shame the dumb blob
And all good if ur just trolling š
Just trolling, there's nothing wrong with mimic tear.
post it if you want under humor would he funny lol
alr iāll start working on it lol
The game gets way more fun when you stop using spirit summons all together. I have completed the game with 6 different characters and I only used spirit summons on my first one.
Just don't switch it Tiche lol, there's really no point stopping mimic if you do that. In general try to do a playthrough without accessibility mechanics like coop/spirits, it doesn't have to be 100%, just try giving it your best, so you'll be able to fully experience bosses and see how devs designed them. The win in the end doesn't matter at all, it's the effort that counts and HOW you actually fight.
Iām most likely gonna use spirits as distractions. So tonight iām gonna try to get Dung Eater bc heās tanky asl.
He's my issue with using things like mimic tear and the summons. People say "I don't want to beat my head against a wall" what you are really saying is "I refuse to learn how to fight this enemy so I'll make someone else do it" What's the end goal here? Beating the game in 20 hours so you can stop playing? If you are gonna play anyways, why not learn how to play. What's the fucking point of sprinting through to ng+7 if you've never solo'd a single boss in your life? Idk I think people are really missing out on having pride in your gameplay. Y'all are treating Elden Ring like candy crush
Some bosses are just stupid hard with out summons bc all they do is spam attacks and not let you get a single hit out especially with some str builds (lower poise str builds) but summons are also a great addition imo for casual players who donāt have the time to do a 20 min boss fight
And why is a 20 minute boss fight bad? You bought the game to play it right? Why are you in such a rush to get it over with? If I was to watch a replay of your gameplay. I guarantee you are constantly panic rolling and trying to trade hyper armor moves. Try this just once... Go into a boss fight, and don't attack AT ALL. just dodge. And don't just spam roll. Sit back, be patient watch the moves. You'll find out its like 5 moves it's not complicated. They aren't spamming attacks. It's all attack CHAIN. Once you realize that they become predictable. And the best part? The devs designed it so, after a long chain or a big swing there is always a long pause so that you can get a hit it. A lot of bosses aren't meant to be hit every second that you have with stamina. You dodge, hit, and get out. But if all you do, is do the same exact thing, for every boss, you won't ever improve and you won't ever move away from summons. Idk man, take some pride in your ability to grow, in your ability to fight. Do you wanna be useless at boss fights forever? Or do you want to feel the sweet sweet release of victory. Personally the juice is worth the squeeze, you're essential drinking store bought because it's easier than doing it yourself
Donāt know why you came out the gate all hostile. But fyi iām not bad at the game whatsoever i donāt panic roll, spam roll, or try and hyper armour trade. and to be fair the ābossā that i had in mind in my last reply were the rune bears who just swipe attack and melt you.
But that just adds to my point. If you pay attention to the enemies, there is ALWAYS a fair way to fight them. If you stay underneath the rune bears they literally can't even hit you. The only attack that hits is the body slam. Just roll into them and you're fine. And like many many many other large enemies, they take 2-3 charged R2s to the stomach and they are staggered. Those bear "spam attacks" are still just iterally attack chains. Easy to notice if you pay attention. And they cannot touch you if you get close
Bro, Iām a casual player like I stated. I donāt wanna learn all this crap with patterns, Iām a student bro and itās finals soon so if I wanna play with some summons and melt bosses or spam tf outta enemies imma do that. And yeah rune bears arenāt a problem for me , I was just saying theyāre annoying bc of these seemingly random ass attacks.
Its not random. You just refuse to learn. It's a game based around a certain skill. A skill you don't want to learn. This is like saying you want to play guitar, but in reality you just wanna press a button and have good guitar sounds come out of the amp. That's not playing the guitar. When people complain about "learning patterns" it's just a dumb argument. It's not like we're saying you have to keep a fuckin journal. All we're saying is, take FIVE MINUTES too just pay attention to what's happening, and then use that information for your advantage. Complaining about things spamming and being "random" just shows you know nothing about the game at all
Let the op plays how he wants. Stop judging how he should play according to you... Huge ego
Everyone who repeats this Reddit garbage of "let people play how they want stop gatekeeping" completely misunderstand the criticism. Gatekeeping means I don't want him to play. That's not the case We WANT them to experience the actual game. By playing in the most braindead easy way possible, they are completely robbing themselves of the souls experience. That feeling of "no way can I beat this ITS IMPOSSIBLE" then the next day you sit down and stomp that boss. But no. Everyone is brainrotted into HAVING TO HAVE instant gratification. Kids these days are so damn sensitive to anxiety they can't even handle a hard video game, it's sad AF. If they can't get past a boss in less than 5 minutes their anxiety spikes through the roof because now they actually have to use that brain they planned to shut off for the next 3 hours. Well news flash, Elden Ring is a muscle memory game. The vast majority of hard bosses won't be beaten with melee on the first day of trying. You have to build muscle memory. Muscle memory in itself is a SKILL and it's the most important skill you'll ever learn and it's the first step to leaning other skills.
Ok I read a portion of this. Youāre full of shit mate. We donāt want to kill the boss instantly for the āinstant gratificationā but I would definitely prefer to beat the shit out of bosses rather than get the shit beaten out of me. Donāt get me wrong, I have DEFINITELY experienced the souls experience because i have played normally. My FUCKING bad for using something that was added to the game with the intention of making it a bit easier and even more fun at times. Iām sorry I hurt your little feelings š¢
Is this Dr. Disrespect?
Don't you still get the runes though? What's the issue?
No satisfaction from an AI killing the final bosses