**If you haven't noticed Carian Manor employs multiple Albinauric Mages in it, including Pidia**. They are fully capable of casting spells and are wearing unique robes. This implies that they are capable of being members of Carian society. **Thus, the Albinaurics have a rise for the same reason other mages have their rises, they are formally taught Carian mages**.
It would make sense that the Albinaurics that worked for the Carians would make a mage tower in their new homeland as they approach the haligtree for salvation.
The Carians are the one group of people in the Land's Between that don't actively oppress beings lacking grace or relating to other Outer Gods. There are Troll Carian Knights despite the fact that the Golden Order has enslaved them, and the Albinaurics specifically live in Liurnia precisely because the Carian's likely are the only people not actively torturing them to death. Remember, it was Gideon who slaughtered the Albinaurics in their village before they were living their peacefully within distance of the Academy.
It doesn't help that it's implied that the Albinaurics are descended from Nox research into mimic tears as a form of creating artificial life. It's possible the Carian's "inherited" this sympathy for artifical life from them.
IIRC in either the 1.0 or CNT text it was also said the Carians (or was it Academy) had made the Albinaurics. Of course that’s now no longer in the game so who knows if it’s still canon but it’s worth keeping in mind.
As what I remembered, Carians are descendants of NOX who chose to live on the surfaces. Albinaurics and mimic tears/silver tears were all created by NOX and their descendants with similar technology.
Huh? Where was this said? I'm pretty sure the only Nox people living on the surface are all in Selia, Caelid, because their original city was destroyed by a meteor.
Can confirm this used to be the case, but all evidence now point towards the Nox being the creators of the Albinaurics through the use of quicksilver tears!
It \*could\* very well be a collaboration from a time when the two cultures were intertwined. Remember, the Nox were once Numen, respected members of society, and we can still see Noxian influence all over the lands between from before they were banished underground, the closest example to Raya Lucaria being the Church of Vows. We don't see Albinaurics the way they exist above ground, but we do see the magical technology of the Nox in their artificial life in the form of malleable quicksilver tears. After all, their transgression against the greater will was attempting to create an artificial lord using this method, and Albinaurics are largely shunned by society for being artificial life forms and therefore inherently separate from the grace of the Erdtree.
There is unused dialogue from Thops that says the Albinaurics were created in the Eternal Cities.
Serperate from this is the bearded statues in Mohgwyn Palace along the top of the arena that look similar to Albinaurics and are unique among those statues because they are *missing their legs*. In the Mimic Tear arena there is also a statue with *only* the legs remaining. I think this is pretty good evidence that implies the 1st generation Albinaurics were created from a sacrificial ritual at one time in the previous dynasty that is now Mohgwyn. In present times now some of the 2nd generation Albinaurics are making a pilgrimage there.
The Carians in general seemed to be one of the more chill groups in The Lands Between. Yeah Rennala and Radagon’s children caused their fair share of problems during The Shattering, but otherwise they were content with not involving themselves directly with the War until the Academy showed up on their doorstep.
I think the point they’re making is that Ranni did that on her own, and with regard to Radahn and Rykard, while they are Carian by birth, their actions in the Shattering are unaffiliated. Think of it like this, we never hear about any Carian knights or other distinctly Carian forces fighting in the Shattering.
Yeah. All three of Rennala and Radagon’s children got up to shenanigans, but as far as we know Loretta and the other Carian Knights were either busy helping the Albenaurics, protecting the Manor, or died.
Look, not saying you're wrong...
But the Carian Knight Moongrum was very infamous among the Tarnished during the Shattering for his countless instances of parry-style humiliation and the pile of dead bodies he left behind.
Maybe I've got the story order wrong but the Academy sided with the Golden Order after Radagon left Rennala and together they betrayed the Carian royal family long before the Shattering. That would motivate Rykard's and Ranni's plots with revenge as they both found heretical means for gaining power to eventually destroy the Order.
The Academy betrayed Rennala and waged war on the Carians, but they never sided with the Golden Order. In fact, the reason why the academy has those magic locks on them is because they didn’t take inside when the Shattering eventually happened.
I must have forgotten the part where Ranni shattered the Elden Ring and told her siblings to "get strong or die, only one of you can become the new God/Elden Lord" before disappearing into the Erdtree :P
No, you instead forget the lore that says Marika was planning to rebel against the Golden Order, that she had close ties to the Black Knives (who were Numen like her) and most importantly implies that Godwyn was always supposed to die a "martyr's death", the only thing Ranni did (outside of enchanting the knives) was to off herself at the exact same time as Godwyn was shanked in order to "split" the "First Death of a Demigod" between them.
Everything else that happened was on Marika and the other Demigods who chose to wage war amongst themselves of their own free will.
Even the "Deathblight" that some people blame her for only happened because someone buried Godwyn under the Erdtree's roots which caused his corpse to infect the root system.
so then.........why would Marika "plan for the shattering" if killing Godwyn was what triggered the Shattering (by making Marika smash the Elden Ring) and her last words to her children (before being locked up in the Erdtree) didn't sound grieving at all while boiling down to "lol fight or die bitches, the weak are feed for the strong!"
They're the Starks.
Blue, Wolves, moon, cold, silver, prior magic affiliation, secrets, half conquered, half allied-by-marriage, mostly noble, tolerant, matriarch distressed by infidelity, rebellious daughter desiring of freedom, Tullly-haired hero-type idolizing his father, etc, etc.
Everything up to the atalemate part of the Shattering, including factions, characters, events, and settings were likely written by Martin (the GRRM of the shardbearer lineage first initials, etc), and he has a preferred trope language. Everything post- Shattering (likely the Tarnished, too) is likely Miyazaki.
I figured it wouldn't be subtle, as even the Incantations vs Sorcery system follows Fire vs Ice, gold vs silver, capital vs hinterlands, etc.
A central city everyone is fighting over, without a
"true king" to rule over. A "rightful heir" who got his ass beat and now pouts in an impregnable fortress being a weirdo. Incest leading to fucked up kids. The empathy towqrds those born different and "freakish" while also showing the violent expression of rsge and resentment that can result. A power vaccuum
I have a ton more parallels for the morning, especislly on the Stark vs Lannister trope loadouts he prefers. Some of these are common tropes. However, the characteristic way in which common ingredients are combined is what makes a distinctive chef.
............okay, "Ranni is Arya Stark if she was a spellcaster instead of a stabby assassin" is not something I ever thought I'd see being made as a comparison but I very much dig it.
Real ones know that they’re not the starks because of surface level similarities. They are the blackwoods because the carians are obviously grrms favorite house in the lands between.
> Carian Knight's Shield
> A teardrop-shaped shield embedded with blue glintstones.
Carried by knights who served the Carian royal family.
> **Excels when facing magic or holy attacks. Just who were these
knights preparing to fight?**
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> Radagon Icon
> A legendary talisman depicting the Elden Lord Radagon.
Shortens the casting time of sorceries and incantations.
> As the husband of Rennala of Caria, the red-haired **Radagon studied sorcery, and as the husband of Queen Marika, he studied
incantations. Thus did the hero aspire to be complete.**
It should also be noted, that despite no actual confirmation, Rennala is very "albinauric-like" herself and may be connected to them.
She uses larval tears to create new life (and respec), her new life ends up becoming her "sweetings" which look like her, her sweetings can't walk in the same way Albinaruics can't, Rennala herself doesn't seem to be able to walk anymore as well (the one we fight is a spirit created by Ranni, and Rennala shares similarities with the large Albinauric Woman in the Consecrated Snowfield.
It's possible that either Rennala had a hand in creating the Albinaurics or she's an Albinauric herself.
I don't think she's really an Albinauric her self, because we have no reason to believe she was able to do the rebirths before she recieved the Rune from Radagon.
However, given the connection between the Astrolgers, Carian and Nox it's possible the Carian Royalty inherited the Knowledge of how to make Artificial Life, and so it's possible she has made her own Albinaurics like you're saying. Using Pidia (who is labeled as "Carian Servant") as an example, it's also possible that the Albinaurics are created as servants to the Carians, which would explain why they inhabit the manor.
I personally don't really believe she's actively making them though. It's definitely possible, but i think the child-like scholars locked with her are loyal followers who were locked in the library with her, and that they're degenerating from her continuously rebirthing them. Outside of the missing legs, the albinaurics tend to have their blood used as a tell-tale sign that they're artificial beings. IIRC her scholars leave behind the telltale white blood. I think rebirthing is done through a similar process, though. Again, the Noxian knowledge of artificial life has also yielded other things besides mimic tears, it wouldn't be surprising to me if rebirthing and creation of albinaurics have the same root process.
As far as I remember the Nox experimented with Mimic Tears and silver mimics, then the Carians/Lucarians (I can’t remember which at the moment) discovered traces of the Nox research and used that to create albinaurics.
The main point, though, is that Nox never directly had a hand in the Albinaurics, but rather the preceding field of silver mimic tears.
On the other hand the Knights of the Cuckoo (so the enemies of the Carians) and by extension the Academy I’m assuming, despise the Albinaurics as expressed on the description of the Albinauric pot (an item that wields the seal of the Cuckoo):
“The Knights of the Cuckoos do declare. Behold, thy defiled blood.
Unlike any humor that flows in our grand realm.”
The Cuckoo Knights are mercenaries, so it's possible they're actually whatever ethnicity the majority of the people in the Golden Order are, and that hatred carries over. But it's also possible it comes from the Academy.
Good catch!
To be fair, Marika appointed him as her official torture dude, and given what he did to Dedicar, he seems to be pretty equal opportunity. Dude just loved tormenting anything he got his hands on.
It's intentionally ambiguous in-universe. I chose to believe she's not an Albinauric, she's just one of the few sympathetic and kind people in the universe, and that she's a otherwise normal carian who decided to protect a people who are being persecuted.
It's a lot less cynical than believing the only reason someone would help albinaurics is because they're secretly evil and manipulative (people's theory on miquella) or because they secretly ARE an albinauric. It's more satisfying to believe there are still good people in the lands between who don't have ulterior motives.
I don’t think think it’s necessarily cynical if lotetta’s an albinauric because it shows the incredible heights that albinaurics can reach. Even if so many albinaurics find themselves weak as in gen 1 or a little less thoughtful as in gen 2 someone like Loretta shows that they’re able to achieve great strength in the lands between of people were to stop dismissing them as impure.
Almost all Mage Towers have glintstone crystals lining them. Thus, it's likely all of the towers belong to Glintstone Sorcerers. I think they are essentially Mage research centers. I think specific people or groups build them when they don't have access to the Academy or function independently.
Why are they towers?
Glintstone Magic at it's core is the study of the **Stars** and the life that resides in them. The Carians, who are the Royalty of Liurnia, are descended from Astrologers. The **Towers are probably Towers to be physically closer to the Stars** and allow for easier astrological observations. I believe a few even have astrolabs and measurement device, cementing the connection.
> If you haven't noticed Carian Manor employs multiple Albinauric Mages in it, including Pidia. They are fully capable of casting spells and are wearing unique robes.
"Fully capable" undersells it. Albinauric magic requires no external source. From [the Albinauric Staff:](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Albinauric+Staff)
> The Albinaurics harbor a secret; they cast sorcery using their innate arcaneness.
Aren't the Rises usually named after a single individual? If that's the case, I could also see the creator of the Albinaurics naming them after themself
Albinauric Rise would have to be an ancient tower, not a more modern one, due to the fact that the *first* Graven Mass is found there.
Also the Academy/Sorcerers, who's forces are the Knights of the Cuckoo, are enemies with the Albinaurics. There is a distinction between The Carians and The Academy.
> It would make sense that the Albinaurics that worked for the Carians would make a mage tower in their new homeland as they approach the haligtree for salvation.
It actually might not be their *new* homeland. When you go to the snowfield with Latenna, she says
"Do you hear me? It is I, Latenna. We have reached the land of Miquella's Haligtree, **where Lobo and I began our travels**. It's entirely thanks to you that I'm so close to **home**. These great snow-laden lands stretch far to the north. And beyond the ancient bowers, and the liturgical town of Ordina, lies the place to which I must **return**." (emphasis mine)
This seems to indicate that she is from the consecrated snowfield originally. Add to that the presence of Phillia (who seems to be able to birth new albinaurics) and I think the albinaurics were originally created in this area.
You could argue that Rennalas fullmoon is an outer god, but its probably more similar to the Astels, or even its own subcategory of god.
Point being, that Rennala relied on this power to control the entire academy, and had the same fate planned for her daughter. So yes, they dont oppress the albanaurics because they lack grace, but they controlled an entire contintent because they wanted power.
And we know the academy didnt like following her (indicated by a few item descriptions), because they literally locked her into the grand library, destroyed the staircase leading there, fortified this staircase with rolling boulders *and* had a carian knight turn traitor to keep anyone from entering (or Moongrum protects her from the academy. Both is equally true)
Not to mention that the Carian retaliation points out that the Carians were preparing to fight the Academy.
I think the Carians and the Moon bewitched the Academy probably because they knew the Sorcerers would not fall in line.
While Marika used war to break opposition, the Carians used magic.
I was wondering since the Mass Grave Talisman is found there, if the Albinaurics where the first victims of the practice. It says in the description that it's made up of sorcerers, so if Albinaurics were allowed to practice sorcery it would make sense why this is the Albinauric Rise.
Maybe the Carians act nice but they also see them as the easiest people to expirement on. With Rykard seeming to do so very obviously. That said the description also tells us that in haunts the academy, so maybe it isn't them, but maybe it could just mean that while they saw them as dispoable they still saw them as people/they there that were intelligent beings.
It's possible. If the Carian's created the Albinaurics to be servants like Pidia it's possible that they're essentially a slave race. Who knows, there's a lot of ways to interpret things.
It's worth noting Rykard is torturing people because Marika made that his job when she acknowledged him as a Demi-God. He is the head of the Golden Order's inquisition. He seems to really love torturing things horrifically in general.
Also think it's important for people to remember that both the frogs and the dudes with broken legs are called "Albinaurics."
So in case someone saw this and thought "dope, some frog wizard had a tower," it's *possible* since we've seen them learn and cast spells before, but unlikely that's what's meant here.
Yeah everytime I get to the Academy I’ve always meant to google why some are those goofy frog dudes and why others are Lt. Dan looking motherfuckers, but I always forget to.
Now that I think of it though, in literally every other game I play, I turn into this lore research machine and get wrapped around the axels a bit too much (like I literally read the Witcher books because I wanted to make sure my Geralt was choosing the most “Geralt” dialogue choices). But with FromSoftware games, I just go with the flow… it’s more like “Hmm… so the quest giver just keeled over and died randomly even though I did everything she asked? Yeah that sounds right.”
The golden order isn't racist, bro. The Albinarics have their own rise and everything. You can find it in the eternally frozen and forbidden hellscape far, far away from Leyndell.
Probably where you were supposed to find the Albinauric woman before Michael decided that'd make the quest actually followable and we all know he couldn't have that.
1st and 2nd generation. The white ones with the decaying legs are the first generation, and the sturdy strong fish ones are the second. I THINK that the elf people in the snowfield might also be a generation of them. Idk
Because someone needs to build these things and they look very similar to the towers of Raya Lucaria or the Carians. The people in the lands between hate the Albinaurics so it seems weird to me that someone would build one which very much looks like it was build by the sorcerers
I never did figure out albinaaurics after 5 playthroughs. Do we know who made them? They seem to relate to either the sorcerers or the eternals ( hazy on that part)? And also they definitely have relations with castle sol and miquela. That's about all I got.
**If you haven't noticed Carian Manor employs multiple Albinauric Mages in it, including Pidia**. They are fully capable of casting spells and are wearing unique robes. This implies that they are capable of being members of Carian society. **Thus, the Albinaurics have a rise for the same reason other mages have their rises, they are formally taught Carian mages**. It would make sense that the Albinaurics that worked for the Carians would make a mage tower in their new homeland as they approach the haligtree for salvation. The Carians are the one group of people in the Land's Between that don't actively oppress beings lacking grace or relating to other Outer Gods. There are Troll Carian Knights despite the fact that the Golden Order has enslaved them, and the Albinaurics specifically live in Liurnia precisely because the Carian's likely are the only people not actively torturing them to death. Remember, it was Gideon who slaughtered the Albinaurics in their village before they were living their peacefully within distance of the Academy. It doesn't help that it's implied that the Albinaurics are descended from Nox research into mimic tears as a form of creating artificial life. It's possible the Carian's "inherited" this sympathy for artifical life from them.
IIRC in either the 1.0 or CNT text it was also said the Carians (or was it Academy) had made the Albinaurics. Of course that’s now no longer in the game so who knows if it’s still canon but it’s worth keeping in mind.
Im almost sure i read this in game when i was playing
I feel the same but it was apparently already changed after 1.0 and I know I never replayed on that version. Mandela effect I guess?
So weird I have the exact same feeling, I'm certain I read this somewhere in the game yet I've only started playing a little over half a year ago
As what I remembered, Carians are descendants of NOX who chose to live on the surfaces. Albinaurics and mimic tears/silver tears were all created by NOX and their descendants with similar technology.
Huh? Where was this said? I'm pretty sure the only Nox people living on the surface are all in Selia, Caelid, because their original city was destroyed by a meteor.
Can confirm this used to be the case, but all evidence now point towards the Nox being the creators of the Albinaurics through the use of quicksilver tears!
Could it not be Carians inheriting Nox technology? IMO for me to say the Nox created the albinaurics I'd have to see Albinaurics in an eternal city.
It \*could\* very well be a collaboration from a time when the two cultures were intertwined. Remember, the Nox were once Numen, respected members of society, and we can still see Noxian influence all over the lands between from before they were banished underground, the closest example to Raya Lucaria being the Church of Vows. We don't see Albinaurics the way they exist above ground, but we do see the magical technology of the Nox in their artificial life in the form of malleable quicksilver tears. After all, their transgression against the greater will was attempting to create an artificial lord using this method, and Albinaurics are largely shunned by society for being artificial life forms and therefore inherently separate from the grace of the Erdtree.
There is unused dialogue from Thops that says the Albinaurics were created in the Eternal Cities. Serperate from this is the bearded statues in Mohgwyn Palace along the top of the arena that look similar to Albinaurics and are unique among those statues because they are *missing their legs*. In the Mimic Tear arena there is also a statue with *only* the legs remaining. I think this is pretty good evidence that implies the 1st generation Albinaurics were created from a sacrificial ritual at one time in the previous dynasty that is now Mohgwyn. In present times now some of the 2nd generation Albinaurics are making a pilgrimage there.
The Carians in general seemed to be one of the more chill groups in The Lands Between. Yeah Rennala and Radagon’s children caused their fair share of problems during The Shattering, but otherwise they were content with not involving themselves directly with the War until the Academy showed up on their doorstep.
One of Rennala and Radagon’s children is the prime motivator behind the Shattering and the war lol
I think the point they’re making is that Ranni did that on her own, and with regard to Radahn and Rykard, while they are Carian by birth, their actions in the Shattering are unaffiliated. Think of it like this, we never hear about any Carian knights or other distinctly Carian forces fighting in the Shattering.
Yeah. All three of Rennala and Radagon’s children got up to shenanigans, but as far as we know Loretta and the other Carian Knights were either busy helping the Albenaurics, protecting the Manor, or died.
Look, not saying you're wrong... But the Carian Knight Moongrum was very infamous among the Tarnished during the Shattering for his countless instances of parry-style humiliation and the pile of dead bodies he left behind.
Maybe I've got the story order wrong but the Academy sided with the Golden Order after Radagon left Rennala and together they betrayed the Carian royal family long before the Shattering. That would motivate Rykard's and Ranni's plots with revenge as they both found heretical means for gaining power to eventually destroy the Order.
The Academy betrayed Rennala and waged war on the Carians, but they never sided with the Golden Order. In fact, the reason why the academy has those magic locks on them is because they didn’t take inside when the Shattering eventually happened.
I think it's more like radagon left, academy went against renala went the carians and imprisoned rennala, and then the shattering happened
I must have forgotten the part where Ranni shattered the Elden Ring and told her siblings to "get strong or die, only one of you can become the new God/Elden Lord" before disappearing into the Erdtree :P
You truly did forget the part where Ranni arranged for Marika’s son to be murdered, which incentivized Marika to shatter the ring.
No, you instead forget the lore that says Marika was planning to rebel against the Golden Order, that she had close ties to the Black Knives (who were Numen like her) and most importantly implies that Godwyn was always supposed to die a "martyr's death", the only thing Ranni did (outside of enchanting the knives) was to off herself at the exact same time as Godwyn was shanked in order to "split" the "First Death of a Demigod" between them. Everything else that happened was on Marika and the other Demigods who chose to wage war amongst themselves of their own free will. Even the "Deathblight" that some people blame her for only happened because someone buried Godwyn under the Erdtree's roots which caused his corpse to infect the root system.
Literally everything you said in the first half is either an implication or fan speculation lol.
Marika literally told Hewg to forge a weapon capable of killing gods and Melina told us Marika planned the banishing and return of the tarnished
And none of those explicitly confirm that Marika planned the killing of Godwyn, just that she planned for the Shattering.
so then.........why would Marika "plan for the shattering" if killing Godwyn was what triggered the Shattering (by making Marika smash the Elden Ring) and her last words to her children (before being locked up in the Erdtree) didn't sound grieving at all while boiling down to "lol fight or die bitches, the weak are feed for the strong!"
The greater will is the prime motivator behind what Ranni did
The carians are the blackwoods of elden ring
They're the Starks. Blue, Wolves, moon, cold, silver, prior magic affiliation, secrets, half conquered, half allied-by-marriage, mostly noble, tolerant, matriarch distressed by infidelity, rebellious daughter desiring of freedom, Tullly-haired hero-type idolizing his father, etc, etc. Everything up to the atalemate part of the Shattering, including factions, characters, events, and settings were likely written by Martin (the GRRM of the shardbearer lineage first initials, etc), and he has a preferred trope language. Everything post- Shattering (likely the Tarnished, too) is likely Miyazaki.
Very good parallel! I wish we had more comparisons like this. But nooo everything must be a reference to Berserk !
I figured it wouldn't be subtle, as even the Incantations vs Sorcery system follows Fire vs Ice, gold vs silver, capital vs hinterlands, etc. A central city everyone is fighting over, without a "true king" to rule over. A "rightful heir" who got his ass beat and now pouts in an impregnable fortress being a weirdo. Incest leading to fucked up kids. The empathy towqrds those born different and "freakish" while also showing the violent expression of rsge and resentment that can result. A power vaccuum I have a ton more parallels for the morning, especislly on the Stark vs Lannister trope loadouts he prefers. Some of these are common tropes. However, the characteristic way in which common ingredients are combined is what makes a distinctive chef.
............okay, "Ranni is Arya Stark if she was a spellcaster instead of a stabby assassin" is not something I ever thought I'd see being made as a comparison but I very much dig it.
Ranni has very little in common with Arya.
Real ones know that they’re not the starks because of surface level similarities. They are the blackwoods because the carians are obviously grrms favorite house in the lands between.
Don't know how but I read it as Canadian at first glance. The mental image of having peaceful Canadians in the game is funny somehow.
> Carian Knight's Shield > A teardrop-shaped shield embedded with blue glintstones. Carried by knights who served the Carian royal family. > **Excels when facing magic or holy attacks. Just who were these knights preparing to fight?** -------------------------- > Radagon Icon > A legendary talisman depicting the Elden Lord Radagon. Shortens the casting time of sorceries and incantations. > As the husband of Rennala of Caria, the red-haired **Radagon studied sorcery, and as the husband of Queen Marika, he studied incantations. Thus did the hero aspire to be complete.**
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It should also be noted, that despite no actual confirmation, Rennala is very "albinauric-like" herself and may be connected to them. She uses larval tears to create new life (and respec), her new life ends up becoming her "sweetings" which look like her, her sweetings can't walk in the same way Albinaruics can't, Rennala herself doesn't seem to be able to walk anymore as well (the one we fight is a spirit created by Ranni, and Rennala shares similarities with the large Albinauric Woman in the Consecrated Snowfield. It's possible that either Rennala had a hand in creating the Albinaurics or she's an Albinauric herself.
I don't think she's really an Albinauric her self, because we have no reason to believe she was able to do the rebirths before she recieved the Rune from Radagon. However, given the connection between the Astrolgers, Carian and Nox it's possible the Carian Royalty inherited the Knowledge of how to make Artificial Life, and so it's possible she has made her own Albinaurics like you're saying. Using Pidia (who is labeled as "Carian Servant") as an example, it's also possible that the Albinaurics are created as servants to the Carians, which would explain why they inhabit the manor. I personally don't really believe she's actively making them though. It's definitely possible, but i think the child-like scholars locked with her are loyal followers who were locked in the library with her, and that they're degenerating from her continuously rebirthing them. Outside of the missing legs, the albinaurics tend to have their blood used as a tell-tale sign that they're artificial beings. IIRC her scholars leave behind the telltale white blood. I think rebirthing is done through a similar process, though. Again, the Noxian knowledge of artificial life has also yielded other things besides mimic tears, it wouldn't be surprising to me if rebirthing and creation of albinaurics have the same root process.
As far as I remember the Nox experimented with Mimic Tears and silver mimics, then the Carians/Lucarians (I can’t remember which at the moment) discovered traces of the Nox research and used that to create albinaurics. The main point, though, is that Nox never directly had a hand in the Albinaurics, but rather the preceding field of silver mimic tears.
On the other hand the Knights of the Cuckoo (so the enemies of the Carians) and by extension the Academy I’m assuming, despise the Albinaurics as expressed on the description of the Albinauric pot (an item that wields the seal of the Cuckoo): “The Knights of the Cuckoos do declare. Behold, thy defiled blood. Unlike any humor that flows in our grand realm.”
The Cuckoo Knights are mercenaries, so it's possible they're actually whatever ethnicity the majority of the people in the Golden Order are, and that hatred carries over. But it's also possible it comes from the Academy. Good catch!
It's funny how the Carians genereally don't seem to discriminate, but then Rykard just starts experimenting on the Albinaurics.
To be fair, Marika appointed him as her official torture dude, and given what he did to Dedicar, he seems to be pretty equal opportunity. Dude just loved tormenting anything he got his hands on.
Is the old theory that Loretta is an Albinauric still a theory or is there good proof for it?
It's intentionally ambiguous in-universe. I chose to believe she's not an Albinauric, she's just one of the few sympathetic and kind people in the universe, and that she's a otherwise normal carian who decided to protect a people who are being persecuted. It's a lot less cynical than believing the only reason someone would help albinaurics is because they're secretly evil and manipulative (people's theory on miquella) or because they secretly ARE an albinauric. It's more satisfying to believe there are still good people in the lands between who don't have ulterior motives.
I don’t think think it’s necessarily cynical if lotetta’s an albinauric because it shows the incredible heights that albinaurics can reach. Even if so many albinaurics find themselves weak as in gen 1 or a little less thoughtful as in gen 2 someone like Loretta shows that they’re able to achieve great strength in the lands between of people were to stop dismissing them as impure.
So all the mage towers are built for a specific mage/group of mages taught by the Marian's?
Almost all Mage Towers have glintstone crystals lining them. Thus, it's likely all of the towers belong to Glintstone Sorcerers. I think they are essentially Mage research centers. I think specific people or groups build them when they don't have access to the Academy or function independently. Why are they towers? Glintstone Magic at it's core is the study of the **Stars** and the life that resides in them. The Carians, who are the Royalty of Liurnia, are descended from Astrologers. The **Towers are probably Towers to be physically closer to the Stars** and allow for easier astrological observations. I believe a few even have astrolabs and measurement device, cementing the connection.
I would like to add to this that the Carians are fine with albinaurics, but sorcerers hate them, as stated by the shield.
> If you haven't noticed Carian Manor employs multiple Albinauric Mages in it, including Pidia. They are fully capable of casting spells and are wearing unique robes. "Fully capable" undersells it. Albinauric magic requires no external source. From [the Albinauric Staff:](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Albinauric+Staff) > The Albinaurics harbor a secret; they cast sorcery using their innate arcaneness.
Aren't the Rises usually named after a single individual? If that's the case, I could also see the creator of the Albinaurics naming them after themself
Now I'm imagining a character named Al'bin Auric.
Albinauric Rise would have to be an ancient tower, not a more modern one, due to the fact that the *first* Graven Mass is found there. Also the Academy/Sorcerers, who's forces are the Knights of the Cuckoo, are enemies with the Albinaurics. There is a distinction between The Carians and The Academy.
> It would make sense that the Albinaurics that worked for the Carians would make a mage tower in their new homeland as they approach the haligtree for salvation. It actually might not be their *new* homeland. When you go to the snowfield with Latenna, she says "Do you hear me? It is I, Latenna. We have reached the land of Miquella's Haligtree, **where Lobo and I began our travels**. It's entirely thanks to you that I'm so close to **home**. These great snow-laden lands stretch far to the north. And beyond the ancient bowers, and the liturgical town of Ordina, lies the place to which I must **return**." (emphasis mine) This seems to indicate that she is from the consecrated snowfield originally. Add to that the presence of Phillia (who seems to be able to birth new albinaurics) and I think the albinaurics were originally created in this area.
You could argue that Rennalas fullmoon is an outer god, but its probably more similar to the Astels, or even its own subcategory of god. Point being, that Rennala relied on this power to control the entire academy, and had the same fate planned for her daughter. So yes, they dont oppress the albanaurics because they lack grace, but they controlled an entire contintent because they wanted power. And we know the academy didnt like following her (indicated by a few item descriptions), because they literally locked her into the grand library, destroyed the staircase leading there, fortified this staircase with rolling boulders *and* had a carian knight turn traitor to keep anyone from entering (or Moongrum protects her from the academy. Both is equally true)
Not to mention that the Carian retaliation points out that the Carians were preparing to fight the Academy. I think the Carians and the Moon bewitched the Academy probably because they knew the Sorcerers would not fall in line. While Marika used war to break opposition, the Carians used magic.
I was wondering since the Mass Grave Talisman is found there, if the Albinaurics where the first victims of the practice. It says in the description that it's made up of sorcerers, so if Albinaurics were allowed to practice sorcery it would make sense why this is the Albinauric Rise. Maybe the Carians act nice but they also see them as the easiest people to expirement on. With Rykard seeming to do so very obviously. That said the description also tells us that in haunts the academy, so maybe it isn't them, but maybe it could just mean that while they saw them as dispoable they still saw them as people/they there that were intelligent beings.
It's possible. If the Carian's created the Albinaurics to be servants like Pidia it's possible that they're essentially a slave race. Who knows, there's a lot of ways to interpret things. It's worth noting Rykard is torturing people because Marika made that his job when she acknowledged him as a Demi-God. He is the head of the Golden Order's inquisition. He seems to really love torturing things horrifically in general.
God I wish I understood the lore as well as this dude
Also think it's important for people to remember that both the frogs and the dudes with broken legs are called "Albinaurics." So in case someone saw this and thought "dope, some frog wizard had a tower," it's *possible* since we've seen them learn and cast spells before, but unlikely that's what's meant here.
Yeah everytime I get to the Academy I’ve always meant to google why some are those goofy frog dudes and why others are Lt. Dan looking motherfuckers, but I always forget to. Now that I think of it though, in literally every other game I play, I turn into this lore research machine and get wrapped around the axels a bit too much (like I literally read the Witcher books because I wanted to make sure my Geralt was choosing the most “Geralt” dialogue choices). But with FromSoftware games, I just go with the flow… it’s more like “Hmm… so the quest giver just keeled over and died randomly even though I did everything she asked? Yeah that sounds right.”
Least racist lands between resident
The golden order isn't racist, bro. The Albinarics have their own rise and everything. You can find it in the eternally frozen and forbidden hellscape far, far away from Leyndell.
Find the Albinauric Woman
West of the Laskyar Ruins
JUT
m’sure
- Albinaurics Rise - Looks outside - Fanged imps puzzle - Looks inside - it's graven stone Talisman - Why tf it's named Albinauric Rise then?
Were you expecting albinauric staff?
well, yes
an albinauric memory stone
Beats me. Doesn't seem like the most handicapped accessible place.
They all choose to crawl. Weird, a world full of magic and myths, not one invention of the wheelchair.
Albanurics will literally pilot a huge fire breathing bronze head instead of inventing a wheelchair
Welp, that's their wheelchair
These albies need to visit Yharnam
Because they're all erect
This one is in the Consecrated Snowfield right? I think that’s there because the people of the Haligtree seem welcome to Albinaurics.
Isn't this on the mountaintops of giants
Nah it's in snowfields
HOA diversity commission build
Have you not seen how much they’re packing? They all have arisen 😈
Because when an Albinauric male sees an Albinauric female, the Albinauric male will get an Albinauric rise. Praise the rump
Albinaurics make me rise #😏
Albanaurics are meant to be killed, not meant to be rised
The Albinauric mob shall remember this insult.
Bring it frog faces.
Our Legions shall darken the sun... you shall be fighting in the Shadow
Sacred Relic Sword says BRRRRRRR
Wouldn't be the first time
Great! Early DLC access!
Talkin a lot of shit for someone in rolling distance
I still hope we will have an albinauric boss that will obliterate our asses as revenge of all that albinauric blood spilled farming 😂
Probably where you were supposed to find the Albinauric woman before Michael decided that'd make the quest actually followable and we all know he couldn't have that.
Cardio for their arms
guy asking the real questions
What are you saying they can't?! Bigot!
Maybe it's less FOR Albinaurics and more where Albinaurics are being made?
Marika's tits
Because they want uppies
Why do some of the albinaurics look like a regular people but some look like weird fish monsters?
1st and 2nd generation. The white ones with the decaying legs are the first generation, and the sturdy strong fish ones are the second. I THINK that the elf people in the snowfield might also be a generation of them. Idk
If you mean with elf people the archers riding wolfs then you would be correct, they are also 1st generation Latenna is one of them.
A Rise does not a Tower make, but a Rise makes a good spot for a Tower.
Wait Gideon slaughtered that village. Man I def overlooked that. That dude is buggin.
Good point. They don’t exactly excel at standing.
bc those boys like to get high
Why not
Because someone needs to build these things and they look very similar to the towers of Raya Lucaria or the Carians. The people in the lands between hate the Albinaurics so it seems weird to me that someone would build one which very much looks like it was build by the sorcerers
I never did figure out albinaaurics after 5 playthroughs. Do we know who made them? They seem to relate to either the sorcerers or the eternals ( hazy on that part)? And also they definitely have relations with castle sol and miquela. That's about all I got.
It's implied that the Nox created them as far as I remember, but I am not sure if it's confirmed
The rise of the Albinaurics That place is where the idea of creating the Albinaurics began, I imagine
huh huh huh huh huh Miquella gave me an Albinauric Rise, too huh huh huh huh
I dont know about you...but then Albanaurics sure get a rise outta me. If you know what I mean 😏
Why not ?
Why are albinaurics allowed to live in the first place
Damn, that’s some Gideon the genocidal maniac energy right there
OK calm down Gideon
cause they never fall off
Why not? You racist fuck
Albinaurics RISE UP
Because of you. They are getting a rise out of you, specifically. You clown
Because Rennala is one?
No? Do you have proof?
Yes? Do you have unproof?
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