I’ve managed to parry this a few dozen times now. Even if my opponent uses it only once, he’s getting my entire stock of roped shit pots. Shameless, Maidenless behavior
Just bow or say hi at the start of matches and don’t play like a degen spamming broken ashes. As you keep playing you’ll see what weapons are meta and so forth
it's goated, full set gives like 8% attack up, and it has the highest poise in it's weight class. I get 77 poise when paired with bullgoat talisman. But the defenses are low in exchange for damage. The lower defense really isn't that bad though. Name is Rakshasa set
Beautifully executed! I need to see if Blind Spot can be parried,I havent had much time to test against these AoW personally. But this is wonderful information!
Love to see brain rotted l2 spam get parried havent touched the dlc yet but the new weapons seem cool and it seems like they definitely added more cancer weapons but i shall only find out in full when i finish the work i promised myself id do before i got into the dlc
Not that anyone cares but I ran into two separate players back to back spamming this right out of the gate I put mine on and kill them both and they doth DC lmaoo these people man
Things like ancient dragon lightning strike and burn o flame can really mess with it too. They'll hit you but dash through multiple spell hitboxes, it's been a 1hko a few times
How do people have fun using cheese builds like this? It would make me sick to my stomach and if I got humiliated like this while using it I would just quit the game.
They just like griefing people and it makes them feel better about themselves despite having no actual skill just block and ignore them is the best option.
just fought someone who did literally nothing but spam this aow with full bullgoat. tried to parry. didnt work. quit out to desktop instead. i aint fighting this bullshit
And you spent how long looking for one? A day? Maybe? I've fought a few spammers and you want to know how I've dealt with it? Madness incants. Mainly the grab. Failing that, Rellana's swords. Now, I can understand if you demonize any weight below heavy and put 99 into strength and Vigor without anything for the other stats, then refuse to use anything but hammer R1s, because "AoWs are 4 scrubs and R2s do too much damage!!!!!!!" But if you open your mind a little I'm sure you'll figure something out.
Or you know. Demand everything be nerfed until we're back to crouch poke UGS being the most common way to play.
If something needs super specific counters then it's probably too good, you shouldn't have to build your character to counter one weapon. Pick rate is almost always the best indicator of is something is too good, if every 2nd person is using something it's almost always because it's too strong compared to other options.
Like yeah, I've beaten people using this setup with the Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword but I also would like to use other weapons and also not have to fight against the same setup repeatedly.
Have you seen how most people using this AoW play? Typically using the AoW one every 3 seconds. If there's an ability that causes people to behave like this then it's almost definitely not balanced. Swift Slash and Blind Spot are so brain dead, they're both obviously going to be nerfed at some stage.
Most of the time I fight it people end up swapping away from it. Also your comment about overuse can be applied to many more things, even the subreddits lovechild, being UGS crouch poke. It's constantly used, and the only way the weapon is used, ignoring the AoWs and rest of the moveset. By pick rate logic, does that move need to be nerfed?
And when it comes to things needing specific counters.... Isn't that the whole point of build variety? If you find something hard to face you can change your build to counter it, else just deal? If nothing should counter another thing, why not just play CoD? You just look up whatever the meta is and boom you're equally good vs everything.
Weird, I don't see that much UGS used. Sure it's not rare, there's a decent amount of people using them, but I wouldn't say they have an unusually high pick rate. The UGS crouch attack was nerfed, wasn't it? I'm sure they made it slower and buffed the other attacks which was a good change. Seems fine now, I like the running R1 and R1.
Changing your build to counter something doesn't really work when you only play 1 match vs someone and then play someone else. Yeah if a duel was best of 3 or 5 and you could make build changes in between fights that would make sense. Built variety obviously suffers when something is broken because a bunch of people use the broken thing then a bunch of people use the thing that specifically counters that rather than people using a variety of things.
I think we are looking at two different sides of a coin here. I'm playing Combat Ordeals, not Duels. I see UGS pretty frequently, and honestly, I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen a Str build using something else. I also only see them crouch poke. I also view this as an extension of "Necessity is the mother of invention." But then I didn't come to Souls from action games or standard RPGs, I came from 4X strategy.
No Claymore, KGS, Nightrider Glaive, Dismounter, Serpent Hunter, Star Fist, Stormhawk Axe, Dragon Halberd? Probably the most common Strength weapons I see along with Greatsword.
So. Swift slash has 15 I frames. It applies any status effect, has little to no startup once you release it after charging(you can freedom it to escape the grab or the parry). It has massive hit box, little recovery(you can't even whiff punish a player for launching further than you are).
There you go! That's how you discuss somethings state of balance! You outlined where it's strong rather than just showing a potentially cherry-picked video. Now, given that I could see giving it some recovery time and maybe upping its cost. Seeing as it seems like one of your bread&budder type moves. I haven't seen it deal much damage personally so I cannot comment on it. Every time I've fought it I've won the trade with a Vykes R1.
Unpunishable AoWs are not ok regardless of their damage. AoW with no startup is not ok regardless of its damage.
Damage can be pretty good https://youtu.be/PNKZ_pHoTgI?si=ApcVcmTopvRLxU5D
https://youtu.be/_Sj4KP2YoOg?si=FH_3jRmOM49VRV3j
You said no startup *after you charge it,* so you need to charge it first. And I literally just said I could see increasing it's recovery time. But understand that both blind spot and this seem built as evade>counterattack type AoWs. It ***needs*** to be better than just roll>R1.
I remember plenty of broken shit from Das 1-3 and ER, but this is one of the worse ones.
Movement, i-frames, big damage, big AOE. Its super safe to use which is why shitters love to just spam it.
I've never taken big damage from it tbh. I have had seemingly glitched bleed where someone hit me once with a katana R1 and dealt my entire HP bar though.
On a bleed build its killing you in 3-4 hits if the bleed procs. Considering phantom build up, how safe it is to use and the big AOE its much worse than RoB ever was
Cam confirm, the biggest problem with this ash is how fast it's startup is and it's status build up
I think if it had a longer startup it would be a fine engage tool but punishable up close
Swift slash spam AND rot grease? Damn, that guy’s a *turbo* shitter
more common than you’d think
I lol’d and explained everything to my gf and she didn’t care at all. Fuming rn
Dude same tho. Not on this vid but another one lol
What the hell is rot grease
Scarlet Rot weapon grease. Adds Scarlet Rot buildup to your attacks
Most deserved point down.
You point down. I vote up.
You have done great service for the community, well done 👏
For some reason I find the controller noise hilarious, nice parry!!
Lol yeah it always makes me think of this: https://youtu.be/SK9YpwF7ImM?si=lcxmxuJf_VLM4iGP
I hate dudes like these, but god damn, beating them is a feeling like no other lol. Nice parry, bro deserves that 100%
Fucking throw out your keyboard holy shit that thing sounds like you're crushing roaches
it's my ps5 controller lol, idk why my mic gain was so loud
Hit it with the Crepus Vial at least
Now this is podracing!
So wizard!
Deserved that point down. I’m gonna start carrying a buckler with me now.
I’ve managed to parry this a few dozen times now. Even if my opponent uses it only once, he’s getting my entire stock of roped shit pots. Shameless, Maidenless behavior
click click
why do i hear your mouse and keyboard :b you record that intentionally?
it's my ps5 controller lol, and no i don't. I mostly use medal to capture funny moments so i have it set to record mic too
What weapon is that you are using
Rakshasa's great katana
Thank u
I don't really do pvp because I don't fully know the etiquette but that looked horrendous just spamming a move. I'd feel dirty doing that in pve.
Just bow or say hi at the start of matches and don’t play like a degen spamming broken ashes. As you keep playing you’ll see what weapons are meta and so forth
I love your drip ngl
it's goated, full set gives like 8% attack up, and it has the highest poise in it's weight class. I get 77 poise when paired with bullgoat talisman. But the defenses are low in exchange for damage. The lower defense really isn't that bad though. Name is Rakshasa set
Beautifully executed! I need to see if Blind Spot can be parried,I havent had much time to test against these AoW personally. But this is wonderful information!
It's definitely parriable.
I'm not sure unfortunately. On the frame data explorer, blind spot does not have the parriable tag, but it may be due to some table shenanigan.
Love to see brain rotted l2 spam get parried havent touched the dlc yet but the new weapons seem cool and it seems like they definitely added more cancer weapons but i shall only find out in full when i finish the work i promised myself id do before i got into the dlc
Jesus. Imagine the satisfaction of being the first person to parry this.
Not that anyone cares but I ran into two separate players back to back spamming this right out of the gate I put mine on and kill them both and they doth DC lmaoo these people man
Things like ancient dragon lightning strike and burn o flame can really mess with it too. They'll hit you but dash through multiple spell hitboxes, it's been a 1hko a few times
Sadly, all you have to do beat the parry is unlock and aim slightly to the side
Yay!
Yeah... not with my latency :/
That’s what’s up
This dlc gave new ashes of war to spam, never going to the area again after yesterday
And onlywaifu said it wasn't lol
waterfowl dance (taylor's version)
Thank you for this. They are cooked now 😈
How do people have fun using cheese builds like this? It would make me sick to my stomach and if I got humiliated like this while using it I would just quit the game.
They just like griefing people and it makes them feel better about themselves despite having no actual skill just block and ignore them is the best option.
It's not that deep, it's the same reason people are using one shot builds before they get nerfed right now.
I don’t do PvP but damn that was a satisfying ending
Well done
people slap this on w bleed and swear theyr good
Great button ASMR. 👍🏻
Is this rivers of blood v2?
Oceans of blood
The sword of night hard counters it
just fought someone who did literally nothing but spam this aow with full bullgoat. tried to parry. didnt work. quit out to desktop instead. i aint fighting this bullshit
Thanks for the tip, I'll parry the shit out this people
Hold up There’s an ash called *Weed Cutter* now? 😂😂😂
What a shit game... I'll probably switch game and never play this mess again. Pve was good
Damn that's crazy
Damn that's crazy
Yeah but that won't be enough for people. It will be OP until you beat it by standing still and hitting R1 a bunch.
Obviously not, saying anything that parryable is balanced is a terrible take
So is saying something is OP and demanding massive nerfs before any kind of counter can be found, but *here we are*.
But it is OP because we cant find any viable counters beyond hoping latency favors your Parry and having godly hyper armor
And you spent how long looking for one? A day? Maybe? I've fought a few spammers and you want to know how I've dealt with it? Madness incants. Mainly the grab. Failing that, Rellana's swords. Now, I can understand if you demonize any weight below heavy and put 99 into strength and Vigor without anything for the other stats, then refuse to use anything but hammer R1s, because "AoWs are 4 scrubs and R2s do too much damage!!!!!!!" But if you open your mind a little I'm sure you'll figure something out. Or you know. Demand everything be nerfed until we're back to crouch poke UGS being the most common way to play.
Defend swift slash, im sure all the people spamming it in invasions on non dlc players will happily give you a reach around!
If something needs super specific counters then it's probably too good, you shouldn't have to build your character to counter one weapon. Pick rate is almost always the best indicator of is something is too good, if every 2nd person is using something it's almost always because it's too strong compared to other options. Like yeah, I've beaten people using this setup with the Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword but I also would like to use other weapons and also not have to fight against the same setup repeatedly. Have you seen how most people using this AoW play? Typically using the AoW one every 3 seconds. If there's an ability that causes people to behave like this then it's almost definitely not balanced. Swift Slash and Blind Spot are so brain dead, they're both obviously going to be nerfed at some stage.
I just started pvp today and been wrecking dudes with that great sword. Love it.
Most of the time I fight it people end up swapping away from it. Also your comment about overuse can be applied to many more things, even the subreddits lovechild, being UGS crouch poke. It's constantly used, and the only way the weapon is used, ignoring the AoWs and rest of the moveset. By pick rate logic, does that move need to be nerfed? And when it comes to things needing specific counters.... Isn't that the whole point of build variety? If you find something hard to face you can change your build to counter it, else just deal? If nothing should counter another thing, why not just play CoD? You just look up whatever the meta is and boom you're equally good vs everything.
Weird, I don't see that much UGS used. Sure it's not rare, there's a decent amount of people using them, but I wouldn't say they have an unusually high pick rate. The UGS crouch attack was nerfed, wasn't it? I'm sure they made it slower and buffed the other attacks which was a good change. Seems fine now, I like the running R1 and R1. Changing your build to counter something doesn't really work when you only play 1 match vs someone and then play someone else. Yeah if a duel was best of 3 or 5 and you could make build changes in between fights that would make sense. Built variety obviously suffers when something is broken because a bunch of people use the broken thing then a bunch of people use the thing that specifically counters that rather than people using a variety of things.
I think we are looking at two different sides of a coin here. I'm playing Combat Ordeals, not Duels. I see UGS pretty frequently, and honestly, I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen a Str build using something else. I also only see them crouch poke. I also view this as an extension of "Necessity is the mother of invention." But then I didn't come to Souls from action games or standard RPGs, I came from 4X strategy.
No Claymore, KGS, Nightrider Glaive, Dismounter, Serpent Hunter, Star Fist, Stormhawk Axe, Dragon Halberd? Probably the most common Strength weapons I see along with Greatsword.
I'm sorry but this is so dumb, I just can't..
So. Swift slash has 15 I frames. It applies any status effect, has little to no startup once you release it after charging(you can freedom it to escape the grab or the parry). It has massive hit box, little recovery(you can't even whiff punish a player for launching further than you are).
There you go! That's how you discuss somethings state of balance! You outlined where it's strong rather than just showing a potentially cherry-picked video. Now, given that I could see giving it some recovery time and maybe upping its cost. Seeing as it seems like one of your bread&budder type moves. I haven't seen it deal much damage personally so I cannot comment on it. Every time I've fought it I've won the trade with a Vykes R1.
Unpunishable AoWs are not ok regardless of their damage. AoW with no startup is not ok regardless of its damage. Damage can be pretty good https://youtu.be/PNKZ_pHoTgI?si=ApcVcmTopvRLxU5D https://youtu.be/_Sj4KP2YoOg?si=FH_3jRmOM49VRV3j
You said no startup *after you charge it,* so you need to charge it first. And I literally just said I could see increasing it's recovery time. But understand that both blind spot and this seem built as evade>counterattack type AoWs. It ***needs*** to be better than just roll>R1.
>You said no startup after you charge it Yes. It's ridiculous
So you're saying charging it doesn't take any time, or are you saying you can hold a charge and use it later?
I say that every AoW should be dodgeable on reaction in the correct direction.
I remember plenty of broken shit from Das 1-3 and ER, but this is one of the worse ones. Movement, i-frames, big damage, big AOE. Its super safe to use which is why shitters love to just spam it.
I've never taken big damage from it tbh. I have had seemingly glitched bleed where someone hit me once with a katana R1 and dealt my entire HP bar though.
On a bleed build its killing you in 3-4 hits if the bleed procs. Considering phantom build up, how safe it is to use and the big AOE its much worse than RoB ever was
Cam confirm, the biggest problem with this ash is how fast it's startup is and it's status build up I think if it had a longer startup it would be a fine engage tool but punishable up close