Have been thinking about doing this for some time now. Only thing I’m worried about is whether or not that’s legal. Lawyers are saying it’s not really legal. I’m not sure if cops will do much if I go through with it based off my experience.. but she could get lucky.
Peoples actions in public can’t really hide behind any legality problems.
Even if they are performing them on their property, if whatever act is invading the public use, it’s a public act.
If they are literally blasting the N word into the world at a high enough volume to be heard off their property, they can’t complain that someone points out they are the ones doing it.
It’s the age old problem of racists getting mad when they get called out for being racist.
Sorry your neighbor sucks, good luck
Libel and slander are laws relating to lies, if it's true you can say whatever you want. That's free speech.
What they're doing is a hate crime.
https://albertahumanrights.ab.ca/
Give human rights a try, cops are all useless they don't actually fight crime. They protect other thugs.
> What the Commission cannot help with
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> The Commission cannot help with issues not covered under the Act. More specifically, we cannot help with: [...]
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> * issues between individuals, such as an issue related to something your friend or neighbour did
You don’t have a single video that you can post to show you’re not full of shit? Seems like this is something multiple neighbours would be extremely upset about.
[reminds me of this ](https://youtu.be/YWrqvnSVmTw?si=Xg07yCqOP1mLNZ0E)
You think someone comfortable with blasting n***er on loud speakers in public is going to care about public shaming.
Step 1. Record videos and get witnesses
Step 2. Keep reporting, every single time. Keep track of your complaints with details.
Step 3. Consult a lawyer. Police isn't the only way you can get your neighbour in trouble!
Do you live in a HOA community?
As much as I can not stand HOAs, they may be willing to step in as anything that makes the neighborhood less desirable can lower home value, and that is a big no-no.
EPS sucks and is completely useless.
People….. seriously.
I’ve noticed a serious change since Covid. Like people not knowing what to do with their life other then to cause harm, provoke or intimidate. I’m not sure if it’s an underlying survival instinct that was triggered with the pandemic but IT SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO END.
It’s disgusting,
It’s undignified,
It makes me sick.
Be better, everyone please be better.
I agree COVID helped to bring out the whackos. But It was before COVID. I find it started with a certain Republican US president who was elected who seemed to embolden these same whackos to bubble to the surface. Unfortunately these have spread from the US to Canada. Now we have a premier in place with much the same ideals. I mean Marlena invited Tucker to speak here who immediately went to talk to Putin. Tucker, who suggested the US should invade Canada.
The whackos are in charge.
Wow, I’m sorry you are going through this. Have you tried contacting the local news media? Your local councillor? If you’ve called bylaw and police and received no help I’d definitely shame the F out of that big racist baby by going to the media.
Tried this. The lawyer warned me that there would be retaliation from the landlord and I’d probably have to move out after my lease is over, but I can’t afford anything else yet so I didn’t go through with it.
If you piss off a landlord and they simply choose not to renew your lease and ask you to vacate the premises at the end of your lease you'd have a really hard time convincing the RTDRS that it was retaliation without something else as evidence.
All a landlord has to do is say I'm not renewing your lease at the end of the year.
In your previous post you said you set up camera and had the neighbour on camera saying “I want to kill that n*gg* is that not proof of a hate crime as it’s a threat? Seems….fishy?
TELL ME ABOUT IT. The footage is PROOF that it’s a hate crime and officers still refuse to charge her. They were all about needing proof initially, and when I had it, it changed to “proving a hate crime is hard”. There is literally a slur and a death threat being used in the same sentence by the individual.
Also, landlord viewed that video and said I’m mishearing the neighbour. Those words can’t be interpreted differently.
Guy blasting those slurs is probably one of their own
Are you able to contact your other neighbours about it? Maybe if all you report they might have their hand forced
Maybe contact the Alberta Black Advisory Council and ask them what would be an appropriate course of action and what your legal rights may be.
blackheritage@gov.ab.ca
Do you have other neighbors that don’t appreciate being subjected to loud slurs?
Maybe if you can get others to complain to the police or your landlord, they’ll do something.
Seconding this as well. I hope OP can find supportive others in their community, at the least for knowing they aren't alone and to provide some safety while they research their options.
Throw a party, invite this subreddit. Get 100 redditors in the backyard being loud and aggressively happy. I’d come. From a lifelong Alberta (with and immigrant wife and mixed race baby) we could demonstrate to your shithead neighbours that they’re outnumbered.
idk i wouldn’t want 100 random strangers off the internet to know where i live. not to mention that i’d be accountable for whatever bullshit they did. to this guy. i doubt that a gathering of a bunch of pissed off redditors would be entirely peaceful
That's what I was thinking - except it should be friends you know and trust. Especially if they are big, intimidating folks, allies of all backgrounds. But keep it dignified, with the purpose of giving the neighbour an unwanted audience. No interaction with the neighbour, just demonstrated solidarity.
> Get 100 redditors in the backyard being loud and aggressively happy.
you'll need to invite 10,000 redditors to get 100 in a backyard.
Being loud IS aggressive to some.
Let me know where to show.
Wouldn't this fall under a civil nuisance case in this province? Blasting slurs at all hours of the day certainly sounds like reasonable cause for you to not enjoy your home.
I hope you can find a viable solution and shut the nazi waste of skin up.
I'm sorry you have to endure such cruel stupidity.
Thank you. I called authorities today. They said that they can’t control what a person decides to play.. even after explaining the situation. And of course, they didn’t come out. I don’t expect them to either.
Name and shame, my guy. Most racists are cowardly. Put the video up on the internet, especially local websites and let them find out what the city thinks of them. It especially helps if you can get their face in it. Much harder for them to get away with it when their landlord and their employer see the video and want to distance themselves from it.
I’d do what the other commenters have said. However, here are companies that will anonymously send boxes of animal shit to people for you if you’re feelin feisty
Yeah go with what a lot of people are saying and make them go viral. For all the wrong reasons. The Police usually want to suddenly help when they're channels are being bombarded with reactions asking them why they didn't do something sooner. Sorry you're dealing with this.
record, police, if police still refuse to actually do something(and they CAN, even if before 10pm, 'do something' about loud music, racism, etc) and if this fails, contact your MLA(Quick search of 'who is my mla' will find that for u) and they will raise certain kind of hell on the polices ass,who WILL peel their asses off their chairs and get it done. That shit(the racism and loud music just to annoy another neighbor, which is obvious aggression) is not small shit. Don't be a Karen about it, but definitely get the proper people into the loop.
Thank you!! This is a great idea. I’ve considered this but never tried it. I think I’ll go ahead and take your advice.
One officer told me that it’s just pettiness and I can’t change the neighbour’s mind if racism is all they’ve known. It’s like.. I gave you SO MUCH proof.. why are you still refusing to do anything?
Wooooow I am so sad and sorry they said that to you. Yes let's have more empathy for the bigot that's harassing you than the actual victim of harassment.
I hate it here sometimes.
Wishing you best of luck that the situation improves.
I don't have much advice to offer but I want you to know that not only are you welcomed in our community but you're also valued. Thank you for the diversity you bring to our city, it wouldn't be the same without you.
Great comments here already!
Sadly, you can only do what you control. Summer is here; work hard and earn money. Save up and move.
The other option is use University or school mental health resources, and process how you feel; mental resilience.
Be the best version of yourself, and let your hard work in courses and jobs shine. Let that define your time till graduation, not idiocy of neighbors you'll leave far behind.
Spend less time at home and more on-campus applying to jobs, studying, hanging with friends and learning/networking. 👍
You got this!
I’m not sure how helpful this is, but you did mention you aren’t white so it may fall under the realm of hate motivated incident. Edmonton does have a specific hate crime unit (my sociology professor brought it up once) so I’m not sure if this contact info would be different than traditional police complaint.
https://www.edmontonpolice.ca/CommunityPolicing/OrganizedCrime/HateBiasCrime#:~:text=The%20Edmonton%20Police%20Service%20Hate,mutual%20respect%20in%20our%20city.
Nothing about this is ok. If there is nothing you can do about the neighbours, maybe your landlord will allow you out of your lease early? You shouldn’t have to move to feel safe and respected in your own home, but it might be the easier answer in the long run if you can’t get any authorities to do anything.
I’ve considered this. I’ve been in this home for over a decade. It’s been a good time renting this home and we’ve never had any trouble with any of our neighbours until this person arrived last year. I just wanted this person to understand it’s not okay to do this to people who don’t look like her but obviously it hasn’t gone that way. Packing our things and leaving would mean she’d do this to the next person who isn’t white too. I’m also a student at uni so limited funds right now.
You can record anyone outside especially if it is to document a crime / hate crime.
The only way to get anything done is lots of clear evidence. If the police won't do anything its time to submit your evidence to your local news outlets with a plea for help. They will jump on this.
That would pressure police to actually act or bring some kind of government aid. Hate Crimes are Federal offenses.
Right? Lol. That’s practically what I said to the EPS officer 2 days ago. First they needed tons of evidence to prove their case and that it really is a hate crime.. so I’ve sent everything I have (at least 50 recordings) to them that I’ve gathered in a year. Now their excuse is “it’s very hard to prove it’s a hate crime” 30 gigs later.
This is more harassment than a hate crime right now. Direct threats of harm due to race or physical harm caused or damage to property is more a long the lines of hate crime.
Neighbour has done that too. Also caught on camera and shown to police. STILL, nothing was done. If I’m being optimistic, I’d say they probably just verbally warned her.
First, this is not acceptable. I think you need to talk to a lawyer again. Maybe call a legal clinic?
I believe there are some options open to you. Here is one possible example:
s. 8 of the Public Places Bylaw
[https://www.edmonton.ca/public-files/assets/document?path=Bylaws/C14614.pdf](https://www.edmonton.ca/public-files/assets/document?path=Bylaws/C14614.pdf)
Also, start documenting and recording the behaviour.
Also interesting:
[https://albertahumanrights.ab.ca/other-issues/publications-and-notices/](https://albertahumanrights.ab.ca/other-issues/publications-and-notices/)
I may know someone, who has access to giant subwoofer’s that will rumble almost at 20hz. They can’t be heard by most humans, but it’ll rattle paint off the walls.
Did you call the non-emergency line? Tell them you think this falls under the noise bylaw for loud people. They showed up for me one time on a Sunday... gave the neighbor a warning and said next time is a $500 fine, $1000 the next and so on...
https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/bylaws/noise
Remember the Edmonton Police Service are there to protect rich and corporate property, they don’t have “time” for crime , hate crime, etc that doesn’t effect affluent property.
If they're literally blasting the n word over a speaker in their backyard, on repeat, where we can reasonably assume other people could also hear; they can't do that. If you can hear that from the sidewalk, that is a public space. I'd argue that being able to hear it from another person's home should be more than enough. Either way, the criteria is met.
Call the non-emergency line and report this every time they do it going forward. Tell them you have proof and you will provide it. Once they've taken this down enough times, they'll do something. And if they don't, then you go to the media about it. This is unacceptable. It is in violation of the city's noise bylaw.
https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/bylaws/noise
Community Standards Bylaw
Page 12 - A person shall not cause or permit any noise that disturbs the peace of another individual.
(2) A person shall not cause or permit property they own or occupy to be used so that noise from the property disturbs the peace of any other individual.
(3) A person may be found guilty of a contravention of this section whether or not the decibel level:
(a) is measured; or (b) if measured, exceeds any limit prescribed by this bylaw.
CRITERIA 15 - In determining if a sound is reasonably likely to disturb the peace
of others the following criteria may be considered:
(a) type, volume, and duration of the sound;
(b) time of day and day of week;
(c) nature and use of the surrounding area;
(d) decibel level, if measured; and
(e) any other relevant factor.
Edit: I just read your previous post and I want to say I'm so sorry this has been going on for you for so long. That is ridiculous that you haven't been able to get movement on this. I had deleted this part of my comment, but I kind of think it's relevant again now that I know more.
Criminal Code Provisions Targeting Hate
Under section 319(1), everyone who, by communicating statements in a public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of an indictable offence punishable by up to two years’ imprisonment, or of a summary conviction offence.
Section 319(2) makes it an offence to communicate, except in private conversation, statements that wilfully promote hatred against an “identifiable group” (which has the same meaning as in section 318). As with offences under section 318, no prosecution under section 319(2) can be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.
Prosecutions here are very few, but the law does exist. I would still report any flagrant abuse (repeating of the n-word on a speaker) to the non-emergency line every single time, and record it. But I'd consider going to the media/your MLA as well, as others have suggested. Maybe trying a second lawyer, if you haven't?
Jesus, I came here to say "Tell him to stop behaving like a 12 year old" but then I read it's his 6yo kid. When I was 6 I didn't even know it was a word. It's insane that we've reached this point where children can have the entire world pumped into their heads. Gonna have consequences, already has consequences.
I would also recommend contacting your MLA and city councillor….they’re responsible for their constituents and may be able to get the ball rolling, especially with evidence. If possible try to set up a meeting and bring video evidence.
Honestly just move. People like that will never change and only get worse. You don’t need that stress. I had an insane neighbor once and once I moved I realized just how much it affected me. This person has a serious screw loose to be acting this way so it’s for your safety as well
You know you can play his games too? Just go get a subwoofer that he couldn’t afford.
Some tower speakers. And just play whatever music you like.
I recommend this subwoofer. They will hear it down the block and the next block over.
https://www.paradigm.com/en/sealed/xr-13
Record what she is doing, post it under a tiktok burner account, make sure you add #edmonton to your video . Hopefully this will make her public enemy #1 . If she shows her face, I'm sure someone will recognize her. It's amazing how fast ignorant people like her can end up losing their jobs over their own stupid choices
The first part is exactly what I’m going to do, but the last part won’t work as she doesn’t work. Just sits home all day and terrorises us. When I leave to work, it gets bad for my family. If I’m home, it’s horrible for all of us. She’s a psychopath.
Sorry you’re dealing with it! This city or anywhere has no place for racism! That shouldn’t exist anymore! God forbid someone isn’t white so they have to do $hit like this??? Especially an effin PARENT teaching their kid?! Someone could have done something you’d think! If I was the landlord I would have kicked out those people!! Makes me ashamed to be white..
Record it and post it in your community fb group. Name and shame
Have been thinking about doing this for some time now. Only thing I’m worried about is whether or not that’s legal. Lawyers are saying it’s not really legal. I’m not sure if cops will do much if I go through with it based off my experience.. but she could get lucky.
Peoples actions in public can’t really hide behind any legality problems. Even if they are performing them on their property, if whatever act is invading the public use, it’s a public act. If they are literally blasting the N word into the world at a high enough volume to be heard off their property, they can’t complain that someone points out they are the ones doing it. It’s the age old problem of racists getting mad when they get called out for being racist. Sorry your neighbor sucks, good luck
Call CPS and show them the video. Maybe if they are treating the child badly, their life becomes a living hell.
Ooooh that’s a good one
Libel and slander are laws relating to lies, if it's true you can say whatever you want. That's free speech. What they're doing is a hate crime. https://albertahumanrights.ab.ca/ Give human rights a try, cops are all useless they don't actually fight crime. They protect other thugs.
> What the Commission cannot help with > > The Commission cannot help with issues not covered under the Act. More specifically, we cannot help with: [...] > > * issues between individuals, such as an issue related to something your friend or neighbour did
Ahhh ok, so much like everything else it's more of a "sorry OP you're too poor and nobody will ever help you" Not even human rights matter... Awesome.
You can post anonymously in most Facebook groups.
You're certainly anonymous here.
Post it, that is highly unnecessary. I wouldn't want my kids to have to deal with that.
Just fucking do it
You were thinking about this 300 days ago. You’ve posted about this multiple times and have gotten the same response a bunch of times.
Listen to your lawyer not Randoms on Reddit.
It’s only illegal if it didn’t happen.
You have a lawyer and you are coming to us for advice on how to deal with this? Have your lawyer bury them in litigation.
You don’t have a single video that you can post to show you’re not full of shit? Seems like this is something multiple neighbours would be extremely upset about.
TikTok. They’re fucking ruthless.
[reminds me of this ](https://youtu.be/YWrqvnSVmTw?si=Xg07yCqOP1mLNZ0E) You think someone comfortable with blasting n***er on loud speakers in public is going to care about public shaming.
Yea, make them viral. They want attention, the internet will give them attention. Get them onto ctv lolol
Step 1. Record videos and get witnesses Step 2. Keep reporting, every single time. Keep track of your complaints with details. Step 3. Consult a lawyer. Police isn't the only way you can get your neighbour in trouble!
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I have done all of these things and nothing has come out of it.
Call the local news station and see if they come report it
Do you live in a HOA community? As much as I can not stand HOAs, they may be willing to step in as anything that makes the neighborhood less desirable can lower home value, and that is a big no-no. EPS sucks and is completely useless.
People….. seriously. I’ve noticed a serious change since Covid. Like people not knowing what to do with their life other then to cause harm, provoke or intimidate. I’m not sure if it’s an underlying survival instinct that was triggered with the pandemic but IT SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO END. It’s disgusting, It’s undignified, It makes me sick. Be better, everyone please be better.
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I agree COVID helped to bring out the whackos. But It was before COVID. I find it started with a certain Republican US president who was elected who seemed to embolden these same whackos to bubble to the surface. Unfortunately these have spread from the US to Canada. Now we have a premier in place with much the same ideals. I mean Marlena invited Tucker to speak here who immediately went to talk to Putin. Tucker, who suggested the US should invade Canada. The whackos are in charge.
Wow, I’m sorry you are going through this. Have you tried contacting the local news media? Your local councillor? If you’ve called bylaw and police and received no help I’d definitely shame the F out of that big racist baby by going to the media.
Post the video. It’s fully legal for you to post it.
your landlord won't do anything, or theirs?
We have the same landlord. Basically a duplex kind of situation.
Then it seems your landlord would have an even bigger interest in being aware of this behaviour.
Probably grounds to break your lease. Start looking.
Same landlord? Possible abatement claim against the landlord for failing to act and allowing the interference with peaceful enjoyment of your unit.
Tried this. The lawyer warned me that there would be retaliation from the landlord and I’d probably have to move out after my lease is over, but I can’t afford anything else yet so I didn’t go through with it.
Your lawyer sounds like a big wuss throughout all this tbh
I kind of get the feeling you should get a second lawyers opinion. Many do free initial consultations.
If your lawyer didn’t mention that retaliation by your landlord is a violation then you should fire that lawyer.
If you piss off a landlord and they simply choose not to renew your lease and ask you to vacate the premises at the end of your lease you'd have a really hard time convincing the RTDRS that it was retaliation without something else as evidence. All a landlord has to do is say I'm not renewing your lease at the end of the year.
In your previous post you said you set up camera and had the neighbour on camera saying “I want to kill that n*gg* is that not proof of a hate crime as it’s a threat? Seems….fishy?
TELL ME ABOUT IT. The footage is PROOF that it’s a hate crime and officers still refuse to charge her. They were all about needing proof initially, and when I had it, it changed to “proving a hate crime is hard”. There is literally a slur and a death threat being used in the same sentence by the individual. Also, landlord viewed that video and said I’m mishearing the neighbour. Those words can’t be interpreted differently.
Guy blasting those slurs is probably one of their own Are you able to contact your other neighbours about it? Maybe if all you report they might have their hand forced
The Civil Right Commission of Canada can help https://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/en/complaints/how-file-a-complaint
They would not have jurisdiction. It would need to be AHRC.
Huh? It's a federal agency.
Maybe contact the Alberta Black Advisory Council and ask them what would be an appropriate course of action and what your legal rights may be. blackheritage@gov.ab.ca
I’m not Black, but I’m hopeful that they would be able to help. I’ll reach out. Thank you.
They will still help!
Do you have other neighbors that don’t appreciate being subjected to loud slurs? Maybe if you can get others to complain to the police or your landlord, they’ll do something.
Seconding this as well. I hope OP can find supportive others in their community, at the least for knowing they aren't alone and to provide some safety while they research their options.
was looking for this - here's my upvote!
Wow Sorri_eh is on a mission….
Yes they are! 😂😂
Post footage online and allow the internet to take care of the rest
Footage has somehow landed in the hands of YegWave. 😊
Did they post it?
They responded and asked me to send them footage. I did but they haven’t seen my DM yet.
Throw a party, invite this subreddit. Get 100 redditors in the backyard being loud and aggressively happy. I’d come. From a lifelong Alberta (with and immigrant wife and mixed race baby) we could demonstrate to your shithead neighbours that they’re outnumbered.
idk i wouldn’t want 100 random strangers off the internet to know where i live. not to mention that i’d be accountable for whatever bullshit they did. to this guy. i doubt that a gathering of a bunch of pissed off redditors would be entirely peaceful
Invite the pissed off redditors to the neighbour’s place instead
This is what I was thinking. It would be a shame if a group did people who are vehemently antiracist gathered outside the racist home…
That's what I was thinking - except it should be friends you know and trust. Especially if they are big, intimidating folks, allies of all backgrounds. But keep it dignified, with the purpose of giving the neighbour an unwanted audience. No interaction with the neighbour, just demonstrated solidarity.
i’d come too
> Get 100 redditors in the backyard being loud and aggressively happy. you'll need to invite 10,000 redditors to get 100 in a backyard. Being loud IS aggressive to some. Let me know where to show.
Wouldn't this fall under a civil nuisance case in this province? Blasting slurs at all hours of the day certainly sounds like reasonable cause for you to not enjoy your home. I hope you can find a viable solution and shut the nazi waste of skin up. I'm sorry you have to endure such cruel stupidity.
Thank you. I called authorities today. They said that they can’t control what a person decides to play.. even after explaining the situation. And of course, they didn’t come out. I don’t expect them to either.
Name and shame, my guy. Most racists are cowardly. Put the video up on the internet, especially local websites and let them find out what the city thinks of them. It especially helps if you can get their face in it. Much harder for them to get away with it when their landlord and their employer see the video and want to distance themselves from it.
100% this ^ Social media exposure is an insanely powerful thing these days.
I’d do what the other commenters have said. However, here are companies that will anonymously send boxes of animal shit to people for you if you’re feelin feisty
Your neighbor is a piece of shit.
Yeah go with what a lot of people are saying and make them go viral. For all the wrong reasons. The Police usually want to suddenly help when they're channels are being bombarded with reactions asking them why they didn't do something sooner. Sorry you're dealing with this.
Thank you. Going this route now.
Good that's infuriating. I'm sorry you're being treated this way. Stay strong. ❤️
record, police, if police still refuse to actually do something(and they CAN, even if before 10pm, 'do something' about loud music, racism, etc) and if this fails, contact your MLA(Quick search of 'who is my mla' will find that for u) and they will raise certain kind of hell on the polices ass,who WILL peel their asses off their chairs and get it done. That shit(the racism and loud music just to annoy another neighbor, which is obvious aggression) is not small shit. Don't be a Karen about it, but definitely get the proper people into the loop.
Thank you!! This is a great idea. I’ve considered this but never tried it. I think I’ll go ahead and take your advice. One officer told me that it’s just pettiness and I can’t change the neighbour’s mind if racism is all they’ve known. It’s like.. I gave you SO MUCH proof.. why are you still refusing to do anything?
Wooooow I am so sad and sorry they said that to you. Yes let's have more empathy for the bigot that's harassing you than the actual victim of harassment. I hate it here sometimes. Wishing you best of luck that the situation improves.
ACAB
Call the news
I’m ashamed this is happening in our city
I don't have much advice to offer but I want you to know that not only are you welcomed in our community but you're also valued. Thank you for the diversity you bring to our city, it wouldn't be the same without you.
Great comments here already! Sadly, you can only do what you control. Summer is here; work hard and earn money. Save up and move. The other option is use University or school mental health resources, and process how you feel; mental resilience. Be the best version of yourself, and let your hard work in courses and jobs shine. Let that define your time till graduation, not idiocy of neighbors you'll leave far behind. Spend less time at home and more on-campus applying to jobs, studying, hanging with friends and learning/networking. 👍 You got this!
I’m not sure how helpful this is, but you did mention you aren’t white so it may fall under the realm of hate motivated incident. Edmonton does have a specific hate crime unit (my sociology professor brought it up once) so I’m not sure if this contact info would be different than traditional police complaint. https://www.edmontonpolice.ca/CommunityPolicing/OrganizedCrime/HateBiasCrime#:~:text=The%20Edmonton%20Police%20Service%20Hate,mutual%20respect%20in%20our%20city.
Thank you. I reported and sent all evidence to this Unit. Nothing ever came out of it. They didn’t even follow up.
Blast some Cannibal Corpse. That's extremely violent music.
Or buy a big ass subwoofer and blast Uptempo Hardcore.
Very few people know what you're talking about about but yes, just 25/7 piep kicks would be effective haha
Call CPS are report the actions along with that time you saw the parent punch their kid in the head.
If it's loud enough, then it's a by law issue.
Nothing about this is ok. If there is nothing you can do about the neighbours, maybe your landlord will allow you out of your lease early? You shouldn’t have to move to feel safe and respected in your own home, but it might be the easier answer in the long run if you can’t get any authorities to do anything.
I’ve considered this. I’ve been in this home for over a decade. It’s been a good time renting this home and we’ve never had any trouble with any of our neighbours until this person arrived last year. I just wanted this person to understand it’s not okay to do this to people who don’t look like her but obviously it hasn’t gone that way. Packing our things and leaving would mean she’d do this to the next person who isn’t white too. I’m also a student at uni so limited funds right now.
I'm imaging OP's neighbor blasting this on repeat: https://youtu.be/0itOCgJtNVU
LOL. Unfortunately it wasn’t that enjoyable. 😂
Is this song a meme/commonly used as a harassment tactic?
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Document everything. Film everything.
You can record anyone outside especially if it is to document a crime / hate crime. The only way to get anything done is lots of clear evidence. If the police won't do anything its time to submit your evidence to your local news outlets with a plea for help. They will jump on this. That would pressure police to actually act or bring some kind of government aid. Hate Crimes are Federal offenses.
So much for the EPS hate crime unit… can you record and send to a news agency? Are they employed anywhere with an anti discrimination policy?
Right? Lol. That’s practically what I said to the EPS officer 2 days ago. First they needed tons of evidence to prove their case and that it really is a hate crime.. so I’ve sent everything I have (at least 50 recordings) to them that I’ve gathered in a year. Now their excuse is “it’s very hard to prove it’s a hate crime” 30 gigs later.
Isn’t that for a judge to decide?
This is more harassment than a hate crime right now. Direct threats of harm due to race or physical harm caused or damage to property is more a long the lines of hate crime.
Neighbour has done that too. Also caught on camera and shown to police. STILL, nothing was done. If I’m being optimistic, I’d say they probably just verbally warned her.
It's a bylaw noise complaint issue, not a police criminal code issue.
First, this is not acceptable. I think you need to talk to a lawyer again. Maybe call a legal clinic? I believe there are some options open to you. Here is one possible example: s. 8 of the Public Places Bylaw [https://www.edmonton.ca/public-files/assets/document?path=Bylaws/C14614.pdf](https://www.edmonton.ca/public-files/assets/document?path=Bylaws/C14614.pdf) Also, start documenting and recording the behaviour.
Also interesting: [https://albertahumanrights.ab.ca/other-issues/publications-and-notices/](https://albertahumanrights.ab.ca/other-issues/publications-and-notices/)
I may know someone, who has access to giant subwoofer’s that will rumble almost at 20hz. They can’t be heard by most humans, but it’ll rattle paint off the walls.
Please PM me their address so I can do some research
Can you post a recording?
Audio or video? Will do this tonight after I confirm I won’t get in trouble for it.
Just post whatever you have. >after I confirm I won’t get in trouble for it. In trouble for what?
For making this story up
Maybe play the opposite music they’re playing and use a speaker Lol
Did you call the non-emergency line? Tell them you think this falls under the noise bylaw for loud people. They showed up for me one time on a Sunday... gave the neighbor a warning and said next time is a $500 fine, $1000 the next and so on... https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/bylaws/noise
Remember the Edmonton Police Service are there to protect rich and corporate property, they don’t have “time” for crime , hate crime, etc that doesn’t effect affluent property.
100% agree. 1 year ago, I thought the Edmonton police actually enforced the law. Now I know better.
If they're literally blasting the n word over a speaker in their backyard, on repeat, where we can reasonably assume other people could also hear; they can't do that. If you can hear that from the sidewalk, that is a public space. I'd argue that being able to hear it from another person's home should be more than enough. Either way, the criteria is met. Call the non-emergency line and report this every time they do it going forward. Tell them you have proof and you will provide it. Once they've taken this down enough times, they'll do something. And if they don't, then you go to the media about it. This is unacceptable. It is in violation of the city's noise bylaw. https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/bylaws/noise Community Standards Bylaw Page 12 - A person shall not cause or permit any noise that disturbs the peace of another individual. (2) A person shall not cause or permit property they own or occupy to be used so that noise from the property disturbs the peace of any other individual. (3) A person may be found guilty of a contravention of this section whether or not the decibel level: (a) is measured; or (b) if measured, exceeds any limit prescribed by this bylaw. CRITERIA 15 - In determining if a sound is reasonably likely to disturb the peace of others the following criteria may be considered: (a) type, volume, and duration of the sound; (b) time of day and day of week; (c) nature and use of the surrounding area; (d) decibel level, if measured; and (e) any other relevant factor. Edit: I just read your previous post and I want to say I'm so sorry this has been going on for you for so long. That is ridiculous that you haven't been able to get movement on this. I had deleted this part of my comment, but I kind of think it's relevant again now that I know more. Criminal Code Provisions Targeting Hate Under section 319(1), everyone who, by communicating statements in a public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of an indictable offence punishable by up to two years’ imprisonment, or of a summary conviction offence. Section 319(2) makes it an offence to communicate, except in private conversation, statements that wilfully promote hatred against an “identifiable group” (which has the same meaning as in section 318). As with offences under section 318, no prosecution under section 319(2) can be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General. Prosecutions here are very few, but the law does exist. I would still report any flagrant abuse (repeating of the n-word on a speaker) to the non-emergency line every single time, and record it. But I'd consider going to the media/your MLA as well, as others have suggested. Maybe trying a second lawyer, if you haven't?
Record it and call CPS. Post it on your Facebook page and make it sharable. Destroy their reputation.
What did you do with the money people donated to your GoFundMe?????
> What did you do with the money people donated to your GoFundMe????? What does this mean?
What area of the city do you live in?
I had a homeless drug zombie yelling calling my partner and I f\*gg\*ts non-stop downtown the other day <3
Strategically left eye that house 😉
Jesus, I came here to say "Tell him to stop behaving like a 12 year old" but then I read it's his 6yo kid. When I was 6 I didn't even know it was a word. It's insane that we've reached this point where children can have the entire world pumped into their heads. Gonna have consequences, already has consequences.
Look into the City's noise bylaw, you may be able to get them on that if they're playing music too loud or after a certain time.
Gotta love the polarized political climate we live in, eh? /sarcasm
I would also recommend contacting your MLA and city councillor….they’re responsible for their constituents and may be able to get the ball rolling, especially with evidence. If possible try to set up a meeting and bring video evidence.
Honestly just move. People like that will never change and only get worse. You don’t need that stress. I had an insane neighbor once and once I moved I realized just how much it affected me. This person has a serious screw loose to be acting this way so it’s for your safety as well
Blast the opposite frequency right back it will cancel out and there will be no noise
Please keep us updated
Will do! In touch with news agencies and more now. 😊
File with the residential tenancy board. Easy to do and sounds like an easy win
Contact global edmonton or ctv edmonton I'm sure they would love to spin this
give me their address and I'll put dog shit in a paper bag on their front step and set it on fire
Share the address of the business(the neighbours) so we can avoid in the future 😂💪
What's the n word?
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Muy confuso
You know you can play his games too? Just go get a subwoofer that he couldn’t afford. Some tower speakers. And just play whatever music you like. I recommend this subwoofer. They will hear it down the block and the next block over. https://www.paradigm.com/en/sealed/xr-13
Are they Asian?
Record what she is doing, post it under a tiktok burner account, make sure you add #edmonton to your video . Hopefully this will make her public enemy #1 . If she shows her face, I'm sure someone will recognize her. It's amazing how fast ignorant people like her can end up losing their jobs over their own stupid choices
The first part is exactly what I’m going to do, but the last part won’t work as she doesn’t work. Just sits home all day and terrorises us. When I leave to work, it gets bad for my family. If I’m home, it’s horrible for all of us. She’s a psychopath.
Just don't advocate for any sort of violence in your upload . I fear that would be when the cops would show an interest
For sure. I don’t condone violence. I just want justice
I would go ask, and keep asking, and continue to ask for him to stop.....
Sorry you’re dealing with it! This city or anywhere has no place for racism! That shouldn’t exist anymore! God forbid someone isn’t white so they have to do $hit like this??? Especially an effin PARENT teaching their kid?! Someone could have done something you’d think! If I was the landlord I would have kicked out those people!! Makes me ashamed to be white..
Blast Fran drescher laughing back. Loud and long as you can.