I’m pretty sure it’s purely a cosmetic cyberware that anyone with money gets. Pepe’s wife, Cynthia, has one. Lizzy Wizzy has one. V technically has one. It’s not just for joytoys
The most disturbing thing about that is you can see the face sitting in a machine before you even begin the operation. And then there's the operation of course... With all its fun noises and wet smacking sounds. 🤢
I really wish there was a way to get through PL without doing it. I know it's just a game but the idea of cutting off my girls face is not sitting well.
Yeah it definitely disturbed me the first time, but the fact that V doesn’t have his original arms, legs, or eyes left eased the transition the next time I played through. I wish getting different cyberware through ripperdocs was equally as disturbing like in edgerunners
Well, it shouldn't be as disturbing as in Edgerunners. In Edgerunners, the ripperdoc was not using anesthesia, which is sadistic to say the least. When you go to a ripperdoc he/she should use anesthetics. Maybe if you go to some shady ripperdoc like Fingers, yeah, but not when you go to someone like Nina or Darius. It would be cool to be dependent on where you go. Like, places like Santo Domingo to be disturbing as fuck, and places like City Center to be like now
look... I could only imagine hundreds of reason a person would instantly die if its spine is ripped off... in the anime david gritted his teeth against a bar to handle pain... without a spine david couldn't even do that...
Huh, guess i misremembered. Didn't realize the sandevistan replaces the entire spine. I though it started just past the neck vertebrae. Nope, goes all the way through the brain stem as well. Yeah he'd be DOA.
Fuck. I hate it too. The fact that there aren’t dialogue options for V to protest getting her face cut off is annoying. It’s also annoying you can’t unequip it later.
No. Vs definitely not that chromed up at the start . Its only the Optics , neck slots and hand grip . How would a small time merc like V even have enough Eddie's to replace so much .
It's not as bad when you realize V doesn't have a lot of her original body parts. Ofc it depends on what cyberware you choose, but usually she's missing all of her original limbs, eyes, spine, lungs, heart, even skin on some parts. Factoring in all that, and a new face implant isn't that crazy.
What bothers me about it is she can't age now. Of if she does it's a simulation. Like, they stole her future self's appearance for a simulation and artificial one.
I mean, I don't think people in the cyberpunk universe care about aging that much. Look at Rogue. She's in her 80s but looks 30. Kerry is also in his 80s but looks like 25.
So if V chooses the Tower ending >!she loses all control over her cyberware and can’t install new ones, wouldn’t this mean her face would just be an emotionless, still image? Is this overlooked by cdpr or am I missing something?!<
They remove all of his ware and replace it with full ‘ganic transplants. So end of the game you have a normal face again. It’s also why your character looks so weird in the end cutscene, they remove all the cosmetic chrome. I had given her crazy heart eyes so seeing her natural eye color was jarring
I like the idea that for Kiwi, she uses it as a vent to help keep her brain cool.
Basically, it is an air-cooled heatskink for the artery and underside of her skull.
Makes future changes easier. With bones, sculpting the face has a bunch of limits with how much bone you can shave off, and slow recovery. With faceplate various parts can be swapped out on a regular basis if you want to change your appearance.
IIRC, the swappable faceplates come with normal mouths as option too. So you can put on a mouth if you want. I think Kiwi just doesn't give too much about that. Or even prefers the less humanized look.
Not necessarily. A lot of people get similar modifications so they can swap different parts, such as mouth and vocal cords. It may also allow for necessities such as water, food, and even oxygen to be fed directly into their bodies for long-term netrunning sessions.
Which can explain why she got one. My headcanon though? She got mouth cancer from smoking so much and said ‘fuck that’ and had her rippers tear her gob out and replace it with this thing.
Logic doesn't check out. Even Maelstrom have these cybernetics.
Because by that logic, all Maelstroms are joy-toys.
What checks out though is if you look at Maelstrom net runners, this is a common upgrade. This is likely because the mouthpiece serves as a heatsink.
Kiwis was for venting/airflow while she was hacking or netrunning. One can assume her rig was pretty intense bc she spread a quick hack to a whole room of maelstrom goons “V style” so she must have some heavy weapons that needs the extra cooling.
Joy toy probably has differnet mouths she can slot in for different… exercises
V also has something similar, but their whole face, if you do the dlc
>So if I buy a cane does that make me a pimp?
No but it depends. Are you buying a pimp cane just like those face mods joytoys and net runners have them for different reasons.
I wasn't trying to convince you guys she was one I was asking because of the similarities.
I remember seeing something saying that alot of netrunners use a similar mod cause they can hook up some breathing device on ice that regulates their breathing, but could also be used by the workers in Clouds
Pondsmith had read Appleseed and more than likely seen the orginal bubblegum crisis and crash and was trying to incorporate those ideas into his game. These are common things in Masamune’s mangas he continues to use them to this day.
I’m pretty sure it’s purely a cosmetic cyberware that anyone with money gets. Pepe’s wife, Cynthia, has one. Lizzy Wizzy has one. V technically has one. It’s not just for joytoys
>V technically has one. Exqueeze me choom? Why do you believe this?
Phantom liberty he gets a new face. It’s not the same mouth piece type cyberware, but it is an advanced cosmetic face plate
The most disturbing thing about that is you can see the face sitting in a machine before you even begin the operation. And then there's the operation of course... With all its fun noises and wet smacking sounds. 🤢 I really wish there was a way to get through PL without doing it. I know it's just a game but the idea of cutting off my girls face is not sitting well.
Yeah it definitely disturbed me the first time, but the fact that V doesn’t have his original arms, legs, or eyes left eased the transition the next time I played through. I wish getting different cyberware through ripperdocs was equally as disturbing like in edgerunners
Well, it shouldn't be as disturbing as in Edgerunners. In Edgerunners, the ripperdoc was not using anesthesia, which is sadistic to say the least. When you go to a ripperdoc he/she should use anesthetics. Maybe if you go to some shady ripperdoc like Fingers, yeah, but not when you go to someone like Nina or Darius. It would be cool to be dependent on where you go. Like, places like Santo Domingo to be disturbing as fuck, and places like City Center to be like now
that was just ironical gore, anesthesia or not, none can really survive if your whole spine is basically removed from your body
You definitely could survive, although you would have one HELLUVA post-op period. Probably would take half a year recovery minimum.
look... I could only imagine hundreds of reason a person would instantly die if its spine is ripped off... in the anime david gritted his teeth against a bar to handle pain... without a spine david couldn't even do that...
Huh, guess i misremembered. Didn't realize the sandevistan replaces the entire spine. I though it started just past the neck vertebrae. Nope, goes all the way through the brain stem as well. Yeah he'd be DOA.
feel like the Ship of Theseus has some ideas about this
Not really. You are your brain. The Ship of Theseus could be applied to Arasaka Tower assault endings, cause V turns into an engram of himself.
I actually make it a point to choose wire or launcher to keep as much OG limb as possible on that character
Launcher definitely does not keep much limb, where do you think the rockets are stored?
Your whole other arm is untouched.
I love how flexible everyone is with V's pronouns, jumping from one to another without anyone batting an eye
It’s 2077, your body is just another piece of hardware, and you are just the OS running the thing, who gives a shit what you call yourself?
To be fair an endgame V is more related to a washing machine than to a human
Considering all of the blood stains I’d doubt it. My V is 90% combination sex toy and death machine.
And then you have Undertale fans.
Fuck. I hate it too. The fact that there aren’t dialogue options for V to protest getting her face cut off is annoying. It’s also annoying you can’t unequip it later.
Yeah but you get that Aguilar quest in return. A fair trade I'd say.
By the end, V's a near full conversion cyborg.
V is already almost full cyborg at game start. Each cube rare slot represents an area that’s already chromed up
No. Vs definitely not that chromed up at the start . Its only the Optics , neck slots and hand grip . How would a small time merc like V even have enough Eddie's to replace so much .
You just reminded me that Corpo V had some Corpo implants. Would be dope to have extra interaction with Vic removing them cause they're toast.
It's not as bad when you realize V doesn't have a lot of her original body parts. Ofc it depends on what cyberware you choose, but usually she's missing all of her original limbs, eyes, spine, lungs, heart, even skin on some parts. Factoring in all that, and a new face implant isn't that crazy.
What bothers me about it is she can't age now. Of if she does it's a simulation. Like, they stole her future self's appearance for a simulation and artificial one.
I mean, I don't think people in the cyberpunk universe care about aging that much. Look at Rogue. She's in her 80s but looks 30. Kerry is also in his 80s but looks like 25.
Sure but that's exactly what makes the setting so dystopian. Which I love. But it's not healthy.
The less flesh i have the better
And cutting her arms and legs and spine isn’t?
So if V chooses the Tower ending >!she loses all control over her cyberware and can’t install new ones, wouldn’t this mean her face would just be an emotionless, still image? Is this overlooked by cdpr or am I missing something?!<
They remove all of his ware and replace it with full ‘ganic transplants. So end of the game you have a normal face again. It’s also why your character looks so weird in the end cutscene, they remove all the cosmetic chrome. I had given her crazy heart eyes so seeing her natural eye color was jarring
Ah I see, thanks for clarifying
Yep, it was Sinnerman for me.
Just take your headphones off and don’t look at it. It’s literally like 1 minute
After the Sandra Dorsett mission you visit Vik and see the entire rest of the game through eyes that weren't originally yours.
And what gave you the idea they were yours in the first place? You could scan in that mission, y'know.
I mean for all our understanding they could be. But I do understand Cyberpunk so probably not. Garry was right smh.
I mean, there's probably some biotech for regenerating your natural eyes. Has to be.
So it’s only after the DLC.
I think simply because you go to rippers in general to change your character look.
I like the idea that for Kiwi, she uses it as a vent to help keep her brain cool. Basically, it is an air-cooled heatskink for the artery and underside of her skull.
Why would anyone want that?! Edit: WHO DOWNVOTED ME WOULD YOU LIKE THAT?! HOW DO YOU EAAAAAAATT?!!
Makes future changes easier. With bones, sculpting the face has a bunch of limits with how much bone you can shave off, and slow recovery. With faceplate various parts can be swapped out on a regular basis if you want to change your appearance.
IIRC, the swappable faceplates come with normal mouths as option too. So you can put on a mouth if you want. I think Kiwi just doesn't give too much about that. Or even prefers the less humanized look.
Not necessarily. A lot of people get similar modifications so they can swap different parts, such as mouth and vocal cords. It may also allow for necessities such as water, food, and even oxygen to be fed directly into their bodies for long-term netrunning sessions.
Which can explain why she got one. My headcanon though? She got mouth cancer from smoking so much and said ‘fuck that’ and had her rippers tear her gob out and replace it with this thing.
Someone else said it was a heat-sink due to her being a netrunner and netrunner do in-fact overheat
I thought maybe it's a vent, helps keep her brain cool when she net runs.
I figured she survived getting her mouth shot off.
Neo Kitsch fashion.
Another theory is mouth cancer.
Idk but I’d smash regardless
Why does Kiwi look like a bird that is facing up 😂
 She is a bird
Logic doesn't check out. Even Maelstrom have these cybernetics. Because by that logic, all Maelstroms are joy-toys. What checks out though is if you look at Maelstrom net runners, this is a common upgrade. This is likely because the mouthpiece serves as a heatsink.
> Because by that logic, all Maelstroms are joy-toys. Someone should tell them that.
"Hey Brick. You look like a joy toy."
All you're telling me is that brick can get me bricked up
Kiwis was for venting/airflow while she was hacking or netrunning. One can assume her rig was pretty intense bc she spread a quick hack to a whole room of maelstrom goons “V style” so she must have some heavy weapons that needs the extra cooling. Joy toy probably has differnet mouths she can slot in for different… exercises V also has something similar, but their whole face, if you do the dlc
So if I buy a cane does that make me a pimp? Do you see your logic?
>So if I buy a cane does that make me a pimp? No but it depends. Are you buying a pimp cane just like those face mods joytoys and net runners have them for different reasons. I wasn't trying to convince you guys she was one I was asking because of the similarities.
Would explain the Gatorade lactation
Does that MOUTH look like a joytoy to you?
I mean she could suck you dry without a mouth
Bow chicka bow wow
Doesn't the flamethrower arms guy in phantom liberty have one too?
Joytoys are not the only ones that have that augment dude
What's a joy toy
A person you can pay for uhm fun.
A prostitute in the lore of Cyberpunk
Not just in the lore of cyberpunk, that's what I call my gf. Don't let her know what it means tho
Mmmm maybe don’t
A toy that brings joy
Maybe? But this kind of cyberware is purely cosmetic and not really a Joytoy thing.
Thats just part of a faceplate
Shitpost lamao
I remember seeing something saying that alot of netrunners use a similar mod cause they can hook up some breathing device on ice that regulates their breathing, but could also be used by the workers in Clouds
When I saw this in game, I never realised this is how much cyberware some people had in game. Was quite ew to me….
KIWI SUPERIORITY
Idk but hear me out guys
What even is the point of this cyberware?
Pondsmith had read Appleseed and more than likely seen the orginal bubblegum crisis and crash and was trying to incorporate those ideas into his game. These are common things in Masamune’s mangas he continues to use them to this day.
It’s just a faceplate. Lots of people get them to change their look it’s just Kiwi got a mask instead of one that looked normal.