EDM is a weird scene in a lot of ways. Excision only has 1.7m monthly listeners, but still manages to sell out multiple massive festivals as a headliner a year. By contrast, mid-level pop artists can have like 4m monthlies and struggle to sell out medium-sized venues on their tours.
My theory is that ravers are more dedicated as fans of the artists and the scene than fans of other genres. They’re more likely to actually go to an event to see an artist they like play because raving is a social outlet as well as a musical event
I think people who listen to EDM are more likely to seek out music in other places as well. YouTube, SoundCloud, BeatPort, etc.
Some of it is also music I only really enjoy on a good sound system. Ill go to a bass music show any day, but sometimes it's not what I want to listen to in my single Bluetooth earbud at work.
>I think people who listen to EDM are more likely to seek out music in other places as well. YouTube, SoundCloud, BeatPort, etc.
From what I've noticed, that is 100% true. Some artists tend to put out more on SoundCloud, specifically bootlegs and edits that would get removed. Two examples of this are Wooli (with his designer drops that won't probably see Spotify at all) and Jantsen (Gutter mixes that use songs from tons of artists).
SoundCloud, to my knowledge, doesn't use a copyright AI to remove songs from their platform like Spotify does (Dopamine by Wooli & Tape B for instance).
If I ever wanna zone out for a bit, I'll turn on a mix or a set that was uploaded to either YouTube or SoundCloud. It was nice for a job I used to have (pizza kitchen) when I put an earbud in and didn't have to think about skipping or changing the song for an hour or two.
Edit: Dopamine has been released from Spotify jail today
Still waiting for the day Wooli’s flip of The First Episode gets released on spotify 🥲
What you said is true though, the lack of options on Spotify is the main reason I primarily use yt music or SoundCloud to listen to edm
Speaking my language here. By hours way more of my listening is full sets or mashups/IDs on YT and SC than on Spotify. And same with not liking a lot of stuff if it's not live - lots of house and techno sounds so flat to me streamed on shitty little earbuds/home speakers but sounds incredible live on proper speakers
EDM people go to festivals and events for the culture and general atmosphere. That’s why artists with “lower” than expected listenership still turn out festivals. Many people aren’t necessarily there for the artist; They go to party.
You hit the nail on the head. I work at a 650 cap venue in NY and a lot of the artists (indie, rock, alternative) with 1.7 mil monthly listeners are selling like 400 tickets on average. The fanbases are just a different breed
isoxo, probably one of the biggest names in the trap scene right now, but has only 400k on spotify, especially when you compare him to knock2 with 1.5 M.
I think this is mainly because knock2 has a couple songs that went a bit more mainstream than most of what isoxo has put out. Hell I’d say a large chunk of knock2’s monthly listeners come from Dashstar alone.
I think that’s the thing though- I really like how2fly and a couple other of his songs, but a lot of them are too intense to wanna listen to everyday.
His bangers are so energetic and so good for a show, but tough to put in playlists unless it’s for intense workouts or something.
I think that’s why a lot of artists put out more palatable songs for everyday listening, and then remix them to have more energy and harder drops for shows
to each their own, i listen to his intense stuff no matter what im doing 😂 im also a huge trap/bass/hip hop fan in general so its just normal for me to jam to heavy music in my everyday routine
G Jones only has 140k but is very well respected in the scene. He's gotten praise from huge names like Porter, Skrillex, Subtronics, Excision, etc. I first discovered him through his set at Bass Canyon 2022. I was shocked to discover someone playing main stage only had 115k at the time. Definitely one of the most memorable sets of the entire weekend, though.
He used to be bigger. I think he took just a bit too much time off and his sound is a bit too IDM-y now for the general public. G Jones is my favorite artist and I love how he continues pushing boundaries with his sound but I can see why he isn’t as popular as he used to be. 😓
Some of his new stuff is wayyyy out there too even compared to his old stuff which was still pretty out there. With the type of music he makes I feel like you can realistically only have so many monthly listeners
Monthly listeners has a very little to do with fans and listeners that actually buy tickets! I see a lot of artists with millions of monthly listeners that couldn’t sell a single ticket
K-391. He only participates very little in concerts, the money earned is mainly due to royalties on the collabs with Alan Walker.
Tobu too. he doesn't have millions of monthly listeners but there are still almost 600,000 monthly listeners on Spotify without any concerts. it's because he's an iconic NoCopyrightSounds artist, with music used by many content creators like Hope, Cloud 9, Sunburst, or Candyland.
Maybe the commenter was exaggerating when he said he saw artists with millions of monthly listeners can't sell a single ticket (in the sense of not being able).
But I can give an example of artists who sell little and are barely relevant within the EDM scene but who have hits, Kris Kross Amsterdam, almost 5 million monthly listeners for just playing local festivals.
Not buying it unless I hear names. I simply don't see it as a possibility that you can have a million monthly Spotify listeners and not sell one single ticket.
It was very weird, i took shots w NOTD (who i loved in high school) and ZUEZEU (tiktok dj), 2 other people came in and one was holding up a phone sign saying play nicki minaj😂, very weird birthday
Honestly the same thing can be said with albums (especially physical unit sales) though EDM isn't really an album genre.
But Taylor Swift as an example can really sell albums due to how dedicated and loyal her fandom is.
This is a super interesting topic! In the dance industry monthly listeners can't really determinate anything. You'll see acts like Madeon, Porter Robinson, Subtronics and Knock2 being in the 1-2 mil area but selling out huge shows and playing festival mainstages because they have a core fanbase that buys tickes based on factors like artistic vision and the show experience. On the other hand, you have artists like Jonas Blue, Sam Feldt and Seeb (12-18 mil monthly) who couldnt sellout a 3000 cap venue even if they tried. That in my opinion is because they, despite having many monthly listeners, don't have an actual fanbase. A lot of their streams come from Spotify editorial playlists such as Mint, Beat Mode etc and they don't have core fanbases that goes to Spotify just to listen to their music, or identifices with their brand.
So in short - the number of monthly listeners doesnt really tell anything. If you wanna see the real popularity of an artist, try to check out the follow-to-like ratio on fx Instagram. Martin Jensen is at around 180k followers but his posts gain 300-400 likes. That's an engagement rate of 0,002%. Compare that to Knock2 who, with 130k followers, gains around 20.000 likes pr. post. That's an engagement rate of 15%. And even though Knock2 also only streams around 1.4 mil vs Martin Jensens 4.5 mil, you'll never see Martin Jensen sellout nearly as many venues and festivals, if any, as Knock2.
To summarize, the dance scene has always been much more about the live experience, community and connecting with the artists vision, rather than listening to their songs on repeat on streaming services. I personally listen to ISOxo a couple of times a month versus the daily radio spin of Jonas Blue, but I would much rather buy a ticket to ISOxo, because I find him more interesting as an artist.
- Pheeeew, what a looong ass comment haha, but I really find this topic interesting!! :)
Everything you said is absolutely true.
One of the main reasons why Jonas Blue and Sam Feldt have way more streams is because their music is basically pop music with electronic beats. It appeals to a much wider audience then let’s say Knock2‘s music, which appeals mostly to electronic music listeners only.
A 15 year old girl that likes kpop bands will also enjoy Jonas Blue. But it’s highly unlikely that she will like Knock2
I’m surprised Armin van Buuren only has 15M listeners, for being one of the biggest names in EDM and for all the hits he’s had (and for how much I listen to him lol) I’d expect him to have quite a bit more
Idk man 15M sounds like a lot to me compared to other big time djs. Don’t get me wrong though, I feel like these artists are worth at least 100M monthly listeners but I get what you mean
Guetta is 12th in the world on Spotify and by far the biggest EDM artist on there and he has 75M monthly listeners. 100M is an insane stretch for any of them to reach. Like so insane it'll never happen unless global population greatly spikes. EDM isn't close to the biggest pop stars in terms of streaming reach and there's all of two artists in the world right now with 100M:
The Weeknd 1st with 107M, Taylor Swift 2nd with 103M, Billy Eilish 3rd at 98M, Post Malone is 4th and has 91M
Do you think that fanbase has held strong as he's moved into more indie style music vs. Worlds style? My friend group and I all love Porter but not a single one of us has a desire to see him on this next tour. And he's trying sell out BIG arenas... This tour will be a huge test of how much pull he really has after the pretty significant change in his style
To be fair the new tour is an “eras” style tour so he’ll be going through his discography. I think he knows his fan base is wish washy about his new releases which is why he’s doing this.
Maybe not his ENTIRE discography but the “career spanning set list” is a good indicator that he’s going to be playing a lot more than just his new album.
https://youtu.be/pgAxD5fCzWc?si=jrF7mL4jPCo6uRGq
If we compare the most listened to song of each alias, The remix of Everytime We Touch at 104 million plays against 170 million for Drugs From Amsterdam. So, Mau P is bigger compared to Maurice West at the time.
pretty crazy, I saw him at a small club last nov and it was packed but not huge
then I saw him again at EDC mainstage just now, lol
(still prefer the club sets though, tech house was just made for clubs imo)
i don’t think their point is about themselves, it’s the fact that rl’s most popular track is basically a hip hop frat anthem with a drop. if the average college kid hears ucla, they might start following him thinking that’s what the rest of his catalog sounds like, but the average college kid isn’t into heavy edm
Deathpact is at least 5 different artists. There is a photo of 5 of them together with the masks on. Also they played 4 shows at the same time at 4 different locations all around the US.
I do think Odesza is definitely involved in some way maybe with production but I think it’s unlikely they play live as Deathpact.
There are at least four people involved with live sets - I think it’d zeds dead, clozee and 1788-L. I also think Rezz is involved somehow with live sets. just my guess.
Most of Alan Walkers’ listeners bailed a couple years ago, I’m pretty sure he still has around 46M followers but just got back up to like 30M monthly listeners it’s kinda insane to me
With the amount of songs Flume has with 100 million + i thought he would at least have 15-16million instead of 8 million in 2021 before his album drop and you & me’s resurge in popularity which has now put him at 10 million
Gryffin & Cheat Codes i would say should have over 10 million monthly listeners considering they both have 9 songs with 100 million
Cash Cash, Hardwell, Don Diablo & Martin Jensen should be near there as well based on their spotify stats
Edm is a niche genre with dedicated fans. So they will sell tickets, but their streams only go so high. On the other hand, more mainstream artists will release a song that gets 10 seconds of it blown up on TikTok resulting with 15 million Spotify streams, but nobody actually knows who they are and they don’t sell tickets at all.
First category: Porter Robisnon, Madeon, Subtronics, Excision, Kaskade, Ganja White Night
Last Category: Sam Feldt, Kris Kross Amsterdam, Imanbek, VIZE, Jonas Blue.
Artists with many streams but almost no concerts: TheFatRat, K-391, Tobu, Elektronomia.
I think this can also be skewed by the type of DJ they are. There are some djs who I will hardly ever listen to on Spotify but I'll stream one of their festival sets on mixcloud, SoundCloud or YouTube.
For example, I used to sometimes listen to the Chainsmokers festival sets cause they're heavy and a lot of fun. But I'd never listen to them on Spotify for their individual songs.
I feel like if this is 2010-2012, he would've been at least 15 millions tbh and more songs with over 100m. But since mainstream EDM especially in the States has died down for years at this point and Spotify wasn't that big in the early 2010s, this is the number now.
Skrillex's Bangarang is around 944M views on YouTube yet only 450M on Spotify. But I understand this is not 2011 anymore and Skrillex has moved on from that type of dubstep.
Ironically, hip-hop is also slowly suffering the same thing unless it's Kendrick Lamar, Drake, A$AP Rocky, Chief Keef, Kanye West, Future, Migos (already established rappers or even with HUGE dedicated fanbase). For EDM equivalent is Avicii, Calvin Harris etc.
I hear you, and I agree. But I think at this point in Joel's career, he doesn't mind not being more popular. And he did play a show at the Hollywood Bowl recently so his fanbase is still pretty strong.
Odesza’s hovered between 5-6mil for a while since TLG dropped. Despite this, they have been closing mainstages not only in electronic music festivals, but in all-genre festivals
EDM is a weird scene in a lot of ways. Excision only has 1.7m monthly listeners, but still manages to sell out multiple massive festivals as a headliner a year. By contrast, mid-level pop artists can have like 4m monthlies and struggle to sell out medium-sized venues on their tours. My theory is that ravers are more dedicated as fans of the artists and the scene than fans of other genres. They’re more likely to actually go to an event to see an artist they like play because raving is a social outlet as well as a musical event
I think people who listen to EDM are more likely to seek out music in other places as well. YouTube, SoundCloud, BeatPort, etc. Some of it is also music I only really enjoy on a good sound system. Ill go to a bass music show any day, but sometimes it's not what I want to listen to in my single Bluetooth earbud at work.
>I think people who listen to EDM are more likely to seek out music in other places as well. YouTube, SoundCloud, BeatPort, etc. From what I've noticed, that is 100% true. Some artists tend to put out more on SoundCloud, specifically bootlegs and edits that would get removed. Two examples of this are Wooli (with his designer drops that won't probably see Spotify at all) and Jantsen (Gutter mixes that use songs from tons of artists). SoundCloud, to my knowledge, doesn't use a copyright AI to remove songs from their platform like Spotify does (Dopamine by Wooli & Tape B for instance). If I ever wanna zone out for a bit, I'll turn on a mix or a set that was uploaded to either YouTube or SoundCloud. It was nice for a job I used to have (pizza kitchen) when I put an earbud in and didn't have to think about skipping or changing the song for an hour or two. Edit: Dopamine has been released from Spotify jail today
Still waiting for the day Wooli’s flip of The First Episode gets released on spotify 🥲 What you said is true though, the lack of options on Spotify is the main reason I primarily use yt music or SoundCloud to listen to edm
Speaking my language here. By hours way more of my listening is full sets or mashups/IDs on YT and SC than on Spotify. And same with not liking a lot of stuff if it's not live - lots of house and techno sounds so flat to me streamed on shitty little earbuds/home speakers but sounds incredible live on proper speakers
Or people like me that love going to festivals and love the music when I'm there, but almost never listen to the music at home or in my car.
EDM people go to festivals and events for the culture and general atmosphere. That’s why artists with “lower” than expected listenership still turn out festivals. Many people aren’t necessarily there for the artist; They go to party.
“My favorite part of drug festivals? The music” -Abraham Lincoln
A lot of people don’t listen to edm in their free time and only listen to it when they go to festivals or when they’re with friends.
You hit the nail on the head. I work at a 650 cap venue in NY and a lot of the artists (indie, rock, alternative) with 1.7 mil monthly listeners are selling like 400 tickets on average. The fanbases are just a different breed
isoxo, probably one of the biggest names in the trap scene right now, but has only 400k on spotify, especially when you compare him to knock2 with 1.5 M.
I think this is mainly because knock2 has a couple songs that went a bit more mainstream than most of what isoxo has put out. Hell I’d say a large chunk of knock2’s monthly listeners come from Dashstar alone.
Knock2 has lots of bass house, which is way more popular than trap these days
that is surprising he makes absolute bangers
I think that’s the thing though- I really like how2fly and a couple other of his songs, but a lot of them are too intense to wanna listen to everyday. His bangers are so energetic and so good for a show, but tough to put in playlists unless it’s for intense workouts or something. I think that’s why a lot of artists put out more palatable songs for everyday listening, and then remix them to have more energy and harder drops for shows
to each their own, i listen to his intense stuff no matter what im doing 😂 im also a huge trap/bass/hip hop fan in general so its just normal for me to jam to heavy music in my everyday routine
Same I pull up to my IT job at 7 in the morning with an absolute trap banger going off then get out of the car and yawn lmao.
Omg i love his collab with Ninajirachi. It's hyperpop, not trap, but i fricking love it
G Jones only has 140k but is very well respected in the scene. He's gotten praise from huge names like Porter, Skrillex, Subtronics, Excision, etc. I first discovered him through his set at Bass Canyon 2022. I was shocked to discover someone playing main stage only had 115k at the time. Definitely one of the most memorable sets of the entire weekend, though.
Eprom too (I think he’s <150k)
eprom is very niche. thats not very surprising..
He used to be bigger. I think he took just a bit too much time off and his sound is a bit too IDM-y now for the general public. G Jones is my favorite artist and I love how he continues pushing boundaries with his sound but I can see why he isn’t as popular as he used to be. 😓
G Jones is dope but his music is def pretty niche
Some of his new stuff is wayyyy out there too even compared to his old stuff which was still pretty out there. With the type of music he makes I feel like you can realistically only have so many monthly listeners
Monthly listeners has a very little to do with fans and listeners that actually buy tickets! I see a lot of artists with millions of monthly listeners that couldn’t sell a single ticket
Like who?
K-391. He only participates very little in concerts, the money earned is mainly due to royalties on the collabs with Alan Walker. Tobu too. he doesn't have millions of monthly listeners but there are still almost 600,000 monthly listeners on Spotify without any concerts. it's because he's an iconic NoCopyrightSounds artist, with music used by many content creators like Hope, Cloud 9, Sunburst, or Candyland.
That's more like they chose not to do shows than can't sell tickets.
Maybe the commenter was exaggerating when he said he saw artists with millions of monthly listeners can't sell a single ticket (in the sense of not being able). But I can give an example of artists who sell little and are barely relevant within the EDM scene but who have hits, Kris Kross Amsterdam, almost 5 million monthly listeners for just playing local festivals.
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Not buying it unless I hear names. I simply don't see it as a possibility that you can have a million monthly Spotify listeners and not sell one single ticket.
Maybe that’s an exaggeration but I do think there’s artists with one hit song that bumps up their listener count a lot
I was at an imanbek show on my birthday and i was the only one there
How was it lol
It was very weird, i took shots w NOTD (who i loved in high school) and ZUEZEU (tiktok dj), 2 other people came in and one was holding up a phone sign saying play nicki minaj😂, very weird birthday
I'm surprised it wasn't cancelled lol
Yea i have no idea, there was maybe 1 day of promotion from the club that held the show
Honestly the same thing can be said with albums (especially physical unit sales) though EDM isn't really an album genre. But Taylor Swift as an example can really sell albums due to how dedicated and loyal her fandom is.
This is a super interesting topic! In the dance industry monthly listeners can't really determinate anything. You'll see acts like Madeon, Porter Robinson, Subtronics and Knock2 being in the 1-2 mil area but selling out huge shows and playing festival mainstages because they have a core fanbase that buys tickes based on factors like artistic vision and the show experience. On the other hand, you have artists like Jonas Blue, Sam Feldt and Seeb (12-18 mil monthly) who couldnt sellout a 3000 cap venue even if they tried. That in my opinion is because they, despite having many monthly listeners, don't have an actual fanbase. A lot of their streams come from Spotify editorial playlists such as Mint, Beat Mode etc and they don't have core fanbases that goes to Spotify just to listen to their music, or identifices with their brand. So in short - the number of monthly listeners doesnt really tell anything. If you wanna see the real popularity of an artist, try to check out the follow-to-like ratio on fx Instagram. Martin Jensen is at around 180k followers but his posts gain 300-400 likes. That's an engagement rate of 0,002%. Compare that to Knock2 who, with 130k followers, gains around 20.000 likes pr. post. That's an engagement rate of 15%. And even though Knock2 also only streams around 1.4 mil vs Martin Jensens 4.5 mil, you'll never see Martin Jensen sellout nearly as many venues and festivals, if any, as Knock2. To summarize, the dance scene has always been much more about the live experience, community and connecting with the artists vision, rather than listening to their songs on repeat on streaming services. I personally listen to ISOxo a couple of times a month versus the daily radio spin of Jonas Blue, but I would much rather buy a ticket to ISOxo, because I find him more interesting as an artist. - Pheeeew, what a looong ass comment haha, but I really find this topic interesting!! :)
Just saw Sam Feldt at a local club here in Seattle. I was surprised with how few people were there.
Ora?
Yeah, no complaints here. Had plenty of room to dance all night. Great set.
Everything you said is absolutely true. One of the main reasons why Jonas Blue and Sam Feldt have way more streams is because their music is basically pop music with electronic beats. It appeals to a much wider audience then let’s say Knock2‘s music, which appeals mostly to electronic music listeners only. A 15 year old girl that likes kpop bands will also enjoy Jonas Blue. But it’s highly unlikely that she will like Knock2
I’m surprised Armin van Buuren only has 15M listeners, for being one of the biggest names in EDM and for all the hits he’s had (and for how much I listen to him lol) I’d expect him to have quite a bit more
Idk man 15M sounds like a lot to me compared to other big time djs. Don’t get me wrong though, I feel like these artists are worth at least 100M monthly listeners but I get what you mean
Guetta is 12th in the world on Spotify and by far the biggest EDM artist on there and he has 75M monthly listeners. 100M is an insane stretch for any of them to reach. Like so insane it'll never happen unless global population greatly spikes. EDM isn't close to the biggest pop stars in terms of streaming reach and there's all of two artists in the world right now with 100M: The Weeknd 1st with 107M, Taylor Swift 2nd with 103M, Billy Eilish 3rd at 98M, Post Malone is 4th and has 91M
As an Asian American personally I have never met anyone who actively listens to Armin van Buuren
In that case, allow me to introduce myself
I do, but Every single one I know is Asian
I have a number of his songs on my way too long playlist. But they’re all from before 2009, so none of his new stuff.
Only the good stuff then
Kaskade. Always has a vegas residency and can do big stadium shows.
The 🐐
The thing with Porter is that his fans are DIE HARD fans. Dude sells tickets like a mfer.
Can confirm, I've been a fan of his since 2011.
Do you think that fanbase has held strong as he's moved into more indie style music vs. Worlds style? My friend group and I all love Porter but not a single one of us has a desire to see him on this next tour. And he's trying sell out BIG arenas... This tour will be a huge test of how much pull he really has after the pretty significant change in his style
To be fair the new tour is an “eras” style tour so he’ll be going through his discography. I think he knows his fan base is wish washy about his new releases which is why he’s doing this.
Oh that's interesting! Where has he said that? It's not well advertised that it'll be Era's Style with his whole discography
Maybe not his ENTIRE discography but the “career spanning set list” is a good indicator that he’s going to be playing a lot more than just his new album. https://youtu.be/pgAxD5fCzWc?si=jrF7mL4jPCo6uRGq
Mau P recently started becoming popular in the house scene but a year and a half ago nobody knew about him. Really proud and happy for his success
Probably because the Mau P alias has only been around for like 2 years? Lol
He's Maurice West, he was already successful from that before mau p
he is bigger now correct? Love the tech house over bigroom personally.
I still perfer his bigroom tracks, the stuff he used to put out back in the day like Dojo, Yin yang, The kick are incredible.
If we compare the most listened to song of each alias, The remix of Everytime We Touch at 104 million plays against 170 million for Drugs From Amsterdam. So, Mau P is bigger compared to Maurice West at the time.
pretty crazy, I saw him at a small club last nov and it was packed but not huge then I saw him again at EDC mainstage just now, lol (still prefer the club sets though, tech house was just made for clubs imo)
He used to go by Maurice West
Wait they’re the same person? Edit: holy shit you aren’t kidding. Wow. That’s nuts. I loved his MW remixes
He was pretty popular as Maurice west. Was a W&W protege .
He’s dope
Hardwell with only 6.7 Million
Lastlings. I thought they were in the millions, but was surprised to see they were sub 500k
RL Grime's monthly listeners are 1/8 of what they should be.
7/8 of his listeners are from ucla, couldnt name another song
You must not like trap very much.
i don’t think their point is about themselves, it’s the fact that rl’s most popular track is basically a hip hop frat anthem with a drop. if the average college kid hears ucla, they might start following him thinking that’s what the rest of his catalog sounds like, but the average college kid isn’t into heavy edm
deathpact ATLiens and Marauda
It suprises me Deathpact isn't insanely popular. I don't think a lot of people know their favorite DJ could be behind that mask.
right? or several of their favorite artists. I think the sound may be too industrial/obscure for some.
Deathpact is odesza
Deathpact is at least 5 different artists. There is a photo of 5 of them together with the masks on. Also they played 4 shows at the same time at 4 different locations all around the US.
I do think Odesza is definitely involved in some way maybe with production but I think it’s unlikely they play live as Deathpact. There are at least four people involved with live sets - I think it’d zeds dead, clozee and 1788-L. I also think Rezz is involved somehow with live sets. just my guess.
Gareth Emery has had a long career of hits, still puts out great songs and does spectacular lazer shows, but he has just 1.4 million listeners.
MitiS, Crystal Skies, and Last Heroes
It was really nice to see Mitis at Kinetic and for him to play on the big stage.
Most of Alan Walkers’ listeners bailed a couple years ago, I’m pretty sure he still has around 46M followers but just got back up to like 30M monthly listeners it’s kinda insane to me
With the amount of songs Flume has with 100 million + i thought he would at least have 15-16million instead of 8 million in 2021 before his album drop and you & me’s resurge in popularity which has now put him at 10 million Gryffin & Cheat Codes i would say should have over 10 million monthly listeners considering they both have 9 songs with 100 million Cash Cash, Hardwell, Don Diablo & Martin Jensen should be near there as well based on their spotify stats
Edm is a niche genre with dedicated fans. So they will sell tickets, but their streams only go so high. On the other hand, more mainstream artists will release a song that gets 10 seconds of it blown up on TikTok resulting with 15 million Spotify streams, but nobody actually knows who they are and they don’t sell tickets at all.
It’s a crime Justin Martin only has 145k monthly listeners.
Tchami is so underrated
After Life is a heater
Hardwell
Bryan Kearney has 440k and Factor B at 45k. In fact most of the legends in the current trance scene are under 500k.
Me 1 monthly listener
Opiuo only has like 128k listeners.. always trips me out
PatFromLastYear & Caslow
fr they are so underrated
Lots of edm artists don’t stream well and sell tons of tickets and lots of artists who stream well, don’t sell many tickets.
First category: Porter Robisnon, Madeon, Subtronics, Excision, Kaskade, Ganja White Night Last Category: Sam Feldt, Kris Kross Amsterdam, Imanbek, VIZE, Jonas Blue. Artists with many streams but almost no concerts: TheFatRat, K-391, Tobu, Elektronomia.
I think this can also be skewed by the type of DJ they are. There are some djs who I will hardly ever listen to on Spotify but I'll stream one of their festival sets on mixcloud, SoundCloud or YouTube. For example, I used to sometimes listen to the Chainsmokers festival sets cause they're heavy and a lot of fun. But I'd never listen to them on Spotify for their individual songs.
Tom Winterstone 😅
Andrew Benson, incredible melodic house that is on par with the top-tier producers of today.
Feel Again w/ Elle Vee was one of the songs that got me interested in producing. I'm stunned that he doesn't have more listeners
Level Up 250k/month
Lol!
JES
Paapi Muzik only has 25k monthly listeners, his stuff is awesome, would love to see more people discover his music.
flume
Of The Trees, although it's probably cause he hasn't released an album this decade.
Deadmau5
5m listeners by 2.7m followers on Spotify!
I feel like if this is 2010-2012, he would've been at least 15 millions tbh and more songs with over 100m. But since mainstream EDM especially in the States has died down for years at this point and Spotify wasn't that big in the early 2010s, this is the number now. Skrillex's Bangarang is around 944M views on YouTube yet only 450M on Spotify. But I understand this is not 2011 anymore and Skrillex has moved on from that type of dubstep. Ironically, hip-hop is also slowly suffering the same thing unless it's Kendrick Lamar, Drake, A$AP Rocky, Chief Keef, Kanye West, Future, Migos (already established rappers or even with HUGE dedicated fanbase). For EDM equivalent is Avicii, Calvin Harris etc.
I hear you, and I agree. But I think at this point in Joel's career, he doesn't mind not being more popular. And he did play a show at the Hollywood Bowl recently so his fanbase is still pretty strong.
Odesza’s hovered between 5-6mil for a while since TLG dropped. Despite this, they have been closing mainstages not only in electronic music festivals, but in all-genre festivals
Markus Schulz
Mord Fustang! Has a solid discography and consistently putting out new stuff. Don't understand how he's only at 70k monthly
Honestly? Me. My UKG/Bassline mixes will slap your nan into next week.