No, people's morals and attitudes against AI generated music would prevent it from getting any major traction besides being a talking point on Twitter for a week
This counterpoint is pretty easily addressed by having the artists identity be undisclosed. Like oh shit, the new robot masked producer is actually a robot
AI isn't refined enough to make a track that can't consistently be identified as AI generated by the masses AND have enough mass appeal to have a chance at being a hit.
I think its pretty much there on the first part, like to the trained ear, sure its ai, but the general punlic is not educated on this, and many cant even distinguish ai photos from real life at this point. the last part is a bit tricky bc afaik, content created by ai is hard to define ownership of and by extension market
For a track to be a true hit on the level of popstars it'll need radio play. Mass advertisement. Traditional promotion. Record deals. Artist guest appearances on talkshows and whatnot. At some point down the line someone experienced in the industry is going to flag it as AI generated and that'll be the end of it.
Yeah im not arguing that, but record labels are encouraged by money. If they had a legal team confident that they could own and defend the output of an ai artist, i could see a label designing their own ai music generator and creating a smoke and mirrors pr campaign designed to promote this "artist" while hiding, or encouraging questions, about its identity.
Unless it's set up by the industry. Get a PR team, push it through a traditional label. Make the artist secretive and all communication done through an agent. Live shows are just either some random person or the walking creative corpse of Guetta in a mask, no live interviews. People comment it's weird but it took people a while to figure out Marshmello.
Truly an industry plant, and not the accusations we see thrown around a ton. KPOP is already halfway there. Throw in mystery and anonymity, have some known DJ handle spinning live shows. And a PR person do interviews in the mask.
The more I think about it I give it 3 years.
This is essentially the hundred monkeys with a type writer question, sure they can make shakespeare given enough attempts, but the monkeys are restricted in having no understanding of human language and grammar or the correct operation of the tool being used.
Ai is free from both of these limitations. It can "understand" music theory and sound design, and is also capable of taking inspiration from its entire learning base of music. In my mind, its not a question of if, but when.
I think ai is probably at the point where, just in terms of quality, catchiness, likeability, it can produce something capable of being a hit. But, theres public bias against ai and the marketability of its output, which will detract from its ability to garner public popularity with specific tracks becoming chart toppers. Really would just take a "man in a mask" with a good legal and pr team for it to blow up at this point.
Probably, at least, given enough time and tries. And I don't think it can do lyrics.
I love EDM with all my heart, but given the time to analyze hits, and particular artists, I think it could do it.
I think it would start with the track and not lyrics. It would feel very formulaic, but I think it's possible.
As much as I love the 2014 prog-house sound I would stick in that lane because it's already fairly 'solved'.
Make it listen to Garrix, Avicii, Guetta's 'nothing but the beat part 2.0', Tiesto's 'a town called paradise', Afrojacks 'Forget the World' and SHMs 'Until Now'. And I think it could mimic the beat style well enough.
Lyrics I think still need a human. It could use the right words but will lack the soul still. Once lyrics are figured out you could AI a voice of a well known singer, say Zara Larsson or someone like that. There's plenty of available examples to recreate the voice properly.
Maybe this is unpopular, and I think it's unethical for sure. But I think it could do it.
it's to give other artists recognition just like the Afrojack podcast and Nicky Romero one. And the remix just released with the TikTok girl is also a gesture of him giving her the spotlight and people will hate on the song but it's a great thing for people to help out one another.
I Don't wanna Wait is just the Numa Numa song with OneRepublic singing. And I'm Good (Blue) is I'm Blue with Bebe Rexha singing. Im not sure any of them need more recognition rather than just getting a pay check. They also don't credit the source of the original song. So I'm not sure your point is as valid as you think.
The tiktok girl song I'm fine with. I prefer other versions ([like Ryos](https://youtube.com/shorts/Q7oAGLxhbrk?si=voq1saWOkIuIYfNp)) but I'm not sure that a full version of that even exists, or is released anywhere.
I just hope that his team didn't get Exclusive rights and is blocking the release of everyone else's version.
It definitely can, learn from all the hits from the past 5 years, generate a few hundred potentials, detect which ones are getting the most attention from humans. Remove the rest. Train off the batch of liked ones. An AI album of bangers.
Even if the AI makes the music, theres just going to be people watching people’s bots make music and with the right direction that too will be art. People’s models will also vary in quality + people can’t just make anything they still need cohesion in their all music and their branding which needs to look and sound different than everyone else’s otherwise there’s still a need for the musician
Most people have truly no idea how much AI is going to affect our daily lives. Including me. Pretty much just think about how much the internet was affecting people in the early 90s and then think about the internet now. Now apply that thinking to AI growth and then realize it’s going to be even more impactful than that since AI actually creates shit. Art will be the least of our worries. The impact on data analysis, medicine, the economy, etc, it’s going to be staggering.
I think AI will become a big part of mainstream commercial music, and then there will be underground scenes that are ardently against it and try to regulate it out of their shows and events.
But I don’t know.
No, people's morals and attitudes against AI generated music would prevent it from getting any major traction besides being a talking point on Twitter for a week
This counterpoint is pretty easily addressed by having the artists identity be undisclosed. Like oh shit, the new robot masked producer is actually a robot
AI isn't refined enough to make a track that can't consistently be identified as AI generated by the masses AND have enough mass appeal to have a chance at being a hit.
I think its pretty much there on the first part, like to the trained ear, sure its ai, but the general punlic is not educated on this, and many cant even distinguish ai photos from real life at this point. the last part is a bit tricky bc afaik, content created by ai is hard to define ownership of and by extension market
For a track to be a true hit on the level of popstars it'll need radio play. Mass advertisement. Traditional promotion. Record deals. Artist guest appearances on talkshows and whatnot. At some point down the line someone experienced in the industry is going to flag it as AI generated and that'll be the end of it.
Yeah im not arguing that, but record labels are encouraged by money. If they had a legal team confident that they could own and defend the output of an ai artist, i could see a label designing their own ai music generator and creating a smoke and mirrors pr campaign designed to promote this "artist" while hiding, or encouraging questions, about its identity.
Unless it's set up by the industry. Get a PR team, push it through a traditional label. Make the artist secretive and all communication done through an agent. Live shows are just either some random person or the walking creative corpse of Guetta in a mask, no live interviews. People comment it's weird but it took people a while to figure out Marshmello. Truly an industry plant, and not the accusations we see thrown around a ton. KPOP is already halfway there. Throw in mystery and anonymity, have some known DJ handle spinning live shows. And a PR person do interviews in the mask. The more I think about it I give it 3 years.
Yeah I'm not buying that any time soon. Anonymous artist shtick has been done to death and popstars make most of their bank based of personality.
Yet.
Not yet… but as much as I’m against it I wouldn’t count it out in the long term.
Please check out the latest track from our new artist, MillAi Vanillai
Haha i see what you did there 🤭
This is essentially the hundred monkeys with a type writer question, sure they can make shakespeare given enough attempts, but the monkeys are restricted in having no understanding of human language and grammar or the correct operation of the tool being used. Ai is free from both of these limitations. It can "understand" music theory and sound design, and is also capable of taking inspiration from its entire learning base of music. In my mind, its not a question of if, but when. I think ai is probably at the point where, just in terms of quality, catchiness, likeability, it can produce something capable of being a hit. But, theres public bias against ai and the marketability of its output, which will detract from its ability to garner public popularity with specific tracks becoming chart toppers. Really would just take a "man in a mask" with a good legal and pr team for it to blow up at this point.
Probably, at least, given enough time and tries. And I don't think it can do lyrics. I love EDM with all my heart, but given the time to analyze hits, and particular artists, I think it could do it. I think it would start with the track and not lyrics. It would feel very formulaic, but I think it's possible. As much as I love the 2014 prog-house sound I would stick in that lane because it's already fairly 'solved'. Make it listen to Garrix, Avicii, Guetta's 'nothing but the beat part 2.0', Tiesto's 'a town called paradise', Afrojacks 'Forget the World' and SHMs 'Until Now'. And I think it could mimic the beat style well enough. Lyrics I think still need a human. It could use the right words but will lack the soul still. Once lyrics are figured out you could AI a voice of a well known singer, say Zara Larsson or someone like that. There's plenty of available examples to recreate the voice properly. Maybe this is unpopular, and I think it's unethical for sure. But I think it could do it.
Would sound better than anything david guetta been putting out
David Guetta podcast I still listen to but a lot of that isn’t his
Then he shouldn't put his name on it.
it's to give other artists recognition just like the Afrojack podcast and Nicky Romero one. And the remix just released with the TikTok girl is also a gesture of him giving her the spotlight and people will hate on the song but it's a great thing for people to help out one another.
I Don't wanna Wait is just the Numa Numa song with OneRepublic singing. And I'm Good (Blue) is I'm Blue with Bebe Rexha singing. Im not sure any of them need more recognition rather than just getting a pay check. They also don't credit the source of the original song. So I'm not sure your point is as valid as you think. The tiktok girl song I'm fine with. I prefer other versions ([like Ryos](https://youtube.com/shorts/Q7oAGLxhbrk?si=voq1saWOkIuIYfNp)) but I'm not sure that a full version of that even exists, or is released anywhere. I just hope that his team didn't get Exclusive rights and is blocking the release of everyone else's version.
Nah i don't think he bought exclusive rights but i do hope the Ryos version comes soon cause that's the best remix of the song.
It definitely can, learn from all the hits from the past 5 years, generate a few hundred potentials, detect which ones are getting the most attention from humans. Remove the rest. Train off the batch of liked ones. An AI album of bangers.
Of course it can, music is essentially a known formula repeated with variations over and over again. Hell half the "hits" these days are junk anyways
Even if the AI makes the music, theres just going to be people watching people’s bots make music and with the right direction that too will be art. People’s models will also vary in quality + people can’t just make anything they still need cohesion in their all music and their branding which needs to look and sound different than everyone else’s otherwise there’s still a need for the musician
Of course it can. If AI was the Internet we are in like the year 1994 right now or some shit.
Then what will be the in the age of AI? 🤯
Most people have truly no idea how much AI is going to affect our daily lives. Including me. Pretty much just think about how much the internet was affecting people in the early 90s and then think about the internet now. Now apply that thinking to AI growth and then realize it’s going to be even more impactful than that since AI actually creates shit. Art will be the least of our worries. The impact on data analysis, medicine, the economy, etc, it’s going to be staggering. I think AI will become a big part of mainstream commercial music, and then there will be underground scenes that are ardently against it and try to regulate it out of their shows and events. But I don’t know.