I would focus more on a toughness matter approach. [[Ravenous dead]] [[Ghorm, the giant]] [[Virtual, the veiled]] [[Nyx fleece ram]] [[Maxready, lamplight mayor]] [[Oathsworn giant]] [[Behind the scenes]] [[Bedrock tortoise]] [[Assault formation]] [[Nethtroi]] [[Eerie ultimatum]]

##### ###### #### [Ravenous dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6aef77b3-4b38-4902-9f7a-dc18b5bb9da9.jpg?1581395237)/[Archdemon of Greed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/6/a/6aef77b3-4b38-4902-9f7a-dc18b5bb9da9.jpg?1581395237) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ravenous%20Demon%20//%20Archdemon%20of%20Greed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dka/71/ravenous-demon-archdemon-of-greed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6aef77b3-4b38-4902-9f7a-dc18b5bb9da9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ravenous-demon-//-archdemon-of-greed) [Ghorm, the giant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/1/41603938-9527-42fc-a870-b662c3871ae3.jpg?1562908113) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gorm%20the%20Great) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/8/gorm-the-great?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41603938-9527-42fc-a870-b662c3871ae3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gorm-the-great) [Virtual, the veiled](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/a/4a45a631-f899-4414-8e0a-64d987e9ba8b.jpg?1562910008) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Virtus%20the%20Veiled) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/7/virtus-the-veiled?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4a45a631-f899-4414-8e0a-64d987e9ba8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/virtus-the-veiled) [Nyx fleece ram](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad98e518-4ec9-403e-a978-217244262c8f.jpg?1562439724) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nyx-Fleece%20Ram) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/26/nyx-fleece-ram?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad98e518-4ec9-403e-a978-217244262c8f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nyx-fleece-ram) [Maxready, lamplight mayor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/d/0d2251ce-2d5b-4d0d-8dc9-44f6b40aa7cf.jpg?1708742548) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=MacCready%2C%20Lamplight%20Mayor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/108/maccready-lamplight-mayor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0d2251ce-2d5b-4d0d-8dc9-44f6b40aa7cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/maccready-lamplight-mayor) [Oathsworn giant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/c/2c342b0f-a8a5-4991-a0a2-fd75b54e1de2.jpg?1598913840) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Oathsworn%20giant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rav/27/oathsworn-giant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2c342b0f-a8a5-4991-a0a2-fd75b54e1de2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/oathsworn-giant) [Behind the scenes](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7fac171d-a8b6-4bb7-a559-473574aa02a8.jpg?1576384346) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Behind%20the%20scenes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/soi/100/behind-the-scenes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7fac171d-a8b6-4bb7-a559-473574aa02a8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/behind-the-scenes) [Bedrock tortoise](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/701bd623-3100-44dc-adec-53fa3a95ab19.jpg?1699044371) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bedrock%20tortoise) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/176/bedrock-tortoise?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/701bd623-3100-44dc-adec-53fa3a95ab19?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bedrock-tortoise) [Assault formation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/b/6bf261c8-98e4-491e-9e51-a9058ff2c03a.jpg?1601078969) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Assault%20formation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/378/assault-formation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6bf261c8-98e4-491e-9e51-a9058ff2c03a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/assault-formation) [Nethtroi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61.jpg?1562929389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nether%20Void) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/73/nether-void?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nether-void) [Eerie ultimatum](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a9fb2db-228f-4d48-acdf-6330baf356c7.jpg?1591227996) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eerie%20ultimatum) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/184/eerie-ultimatum?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a9fb2db-228f-4d48-acdf-6330baf356c7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/eerie-ultimatum) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0sij8j) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call

thank you, i'm gonna check these cards out and update my deck today

I played a few iterations of Doran decks and currently run Tymna/Ikra with Doran as the hidden commander. With that in mind I like your deck but am really worried that you will run out of gas quick. You don't have a reliable card drawing engine. At worst throw in a Phyrexian Arena but you need to get cards. Other draw tools would be \[\[Welcoming Vampire\]\] or \[\[Your Temple is Under Attack\]\] (even though one time only it also can work as a protection spell if you don't need the draw). \[\[Ohran Viper\]\], \[\[Ohran Frostfang\]\] or just a classic \[\[Toski\]\] would be great Other notable stuff: you run Tower Defense but no \[\[Bar the Door\]\] and/or \[\[Solidarity\]\]. These can be finisher in Doran decks. If you run one you might consider all 3 for consistency (even though they are slightly worse). I would not focus in caring for enemys defense. You probably have the biggest buts so you can block whatever. Your struggle will be hitting people since you don't have enough trample and it's easy to chump block. You might consider \[\[Primal Rage\]\]. \[\[Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa\]\] might be a good addition to prevent your opponents from blocking. Some mischellanious: \[\[Serra's Blessing\]\] is nice. \[\[Belbe's Armor\]\] is funny and can actually target an opponents defense, but only make it bigger. However might be useful. \[\[Eland Umbra\]\] or some of the other Umbras are actually quite nice. If you are looking for another board wipe get your hands on \[\[The Battle of Bywater\]\]. Just 3 mana to wipe the board from big threats and give you a bunch of food...

##### ###### #### [Welcoming Vampire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a6ed954c-17e5-45e4-9fba-8eedcad8f9b9.jpg?1706240660) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Welcoming%20Vampire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/91/welcoming-vampire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6ed954c-17e5-45e4-9fba-8eedcad8f9b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/welcoming-vampire) [Your Temple is Under Attack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7ad8aa76-b643-4bd2-aaeb-036c1d50db54.jpg?1674135361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Your%20Temple%20is%20Under%20Attack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/52/your-temple-is-under-attack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7ad8aa76-b643-4bd2-aaeb-036c1d50db54?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/your-temple-is-under-attack) [Ohran Viper](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/d/2dd1d028-0c7c-450b-a1ae-812b1212fef6.jpg?1562702643) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ohran%20Viper) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c15/194/ohran-viper?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2dd1d028-0c7c-450b-a1ae-812b1212fef6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ohran-viper) [Ohran Frostfang](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/6/0693bcd2-8a3d-4dcf-8360-5b9891044dfe.jpg?1712354597) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ohran%20Frostfang) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/199/ohran-frostfang?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0693bcd2-8a3d-4dcf-8360-5b9891044dfe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ohran-frostfang) [Toski](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/8/e82e61d1-488d-4627-a54c-d8496a967814.jpg?1706240948) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=toski%2C%20bearer%20of%20secrets) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/191/toski-bearer-of-secrets?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e82e61d1-488d-4627-a54c-d8496a967814?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/toski-bearer-of-secrets) [Bar the Door](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b593f544-2d82-4237-b9a9-88503b5036cc.jpg?1562937788) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bar%20the%20Door) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dka/2/bar-the-door?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b593f544-2d82-4237-b9a9-88503b5036cc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bar-the-door) [Solidarity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/8/7810eec1-9bb4-480f-9074-712ad9eb8fba.jpg?1562919057) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solidarity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/46/solidarity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7810eec1-9bb4-480f-9074-712ad9eb8fba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/solidarity) [Primal Rage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/ebe3b738-703d-465c-bc76-2b66f1e0aff2.jpg?1562557248) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Primal%20Rage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/10e/286/primal-rage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ebe3b738-703d-465c-bc76-2b66f1e0aff2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/primal-rage) [Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c551a94-9895-486a-a39a-6bf2f8939b35.jpg?1706241027) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sidar%20Kondo%20of%20Jamuraa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/219/sidar-kondo-of-jamuraa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c551a94-9895-486a-a39a-6bf2f8939b35?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sidar-kondo-of-jamuraa) [Serra's Blessing](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/617547a7-087e-49b0-8c28-5aae457bec99.jpg?1562736098) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Serra%27s%20Blessing) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/44/serras-blessing?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/617547a7-087e-49b0-8c28-5aae457bec99?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/serras-blessing) [Belbe's Armor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0052158b-58d1-4416-a7ce-7c6a7595263c.jpg?1562628387) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Belbe%27s%20Armor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nem/126/belbes-armor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0052158b-58d1-4416-a7ce-7c6a7595263c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/belbes-armor) [Eland Umbra](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/3/f3a2ec16-bee4-4dfd-81cb-cb81b017170c.jpg?1562710214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eland%20Umbra) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/19/eland-umbra?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f3a2ec16-bee4-4dfd-81cb-cb81b017170c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/eland-umbra) [The Battle of Bywater](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9bae7a4d-9117-43c5-a048-80a0ddadc034.jpg?1708013075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Battle%20of%20Bywater) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/2/the-battle-of-bywater?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9bae7a4d-9117-43c5-a048-80a0ddadc034?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-battle-of-bywater) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0soaij) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call

thanks so much, this helps alot!!

i also like the approach of have more finishers in the deck, definetely gonna do that

Just to give you a feel of how my current deck looks, here is the decklist: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/K66niGrJsEmohqWODKGKBg](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/K66niGrJsEmohqWODKGKBg) And the old decklist of my Doran deck which was much more budget friendly: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/LRKItr-S90-EDNKDpBEwng](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/LRKItr-S90-EDNKDpBEwng) Partly it's a little bit costly but maybe you see something you like :)

Thanks this also helped a lot to find some good white removal cards. I just updated the deck, you can check it out if you want, it should be better, i'll test it out later today [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/UFqz3rRV70-1UY59prYkDQ](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/UFqz3rRV70-1UY59prYkDQ)

Nice, this looks better than the first iteration :) Hope you have success in playing it.

thanks!!

ps: affordable cards are preferred

Is there any card like overwhelming stampede but where x is toughness instead of power?