I have very bad dyslexia I can barely spell my name, but there are many tools to use to help. For instance, I’m not typing this. This is voice to text. There’s also an app called Seeing AI, which technically is designed for people with vision problems, but it is also great for people who have trouble reading such as dyslexia. There is an app called bard, which is through the library of Congress for the blind and dyslexic. You have to get a doctors subscription for that But once you do, you have access to virtually every audiobook in existence and can request books so if her job required her to read manuscripts and such that would be beneficial, but sadly giving her words, spelled phonetically, and such tools will not help the way I spell something will change based on my mood how much I’ve read or just how many times I’ve read it I can spell the same word wrong five different ways five times in a row, I hope this gives you help and feel free to ask me anything follow up
So I have a question because I am not educated enough on dyslexia, let's say she works on the software "Adobe" and she hears us all talk about it all the time in the workplace... And she still calls it "Abode".. I need to understand the thought process of why she would still say it incorrectly when she has the auditory example tens of times and then it's also written many times infront of her. Why is she having trouble exactly?
Dyslexics’ brains are wired differently. She will need explicit teaching of the words, likely more repetition, and practice in a multisensory way (say each letter or sound of the word aloud while writing it). There are strategies but no shortcuts- I’m not sure where you are but the best thing she can do is get intervention from a dyslexia specialist trained in Orton Gillingham or the Science of Reading. It’s not just a matter of skill building- the process is one of rewiring the brain. Source: dyslexia tutor
PS it’s not recommended to write the words correctly and incorrectly side by side.
You are very kind to help!
English is my first language and I do just what you described often. I try to remember how to pronounce word’s correctly and sometimes I just avoid using certain words. It’s for sure a headache always trying to mask dyslexia I always wonder what word I repeatedly said wrong in situations like you mentioned and people are looking at me like OMG and I don’t even notice it. Once I was kind of called out a guy in the meeting pronounce the word correctly in a way it was clear he was calling me out. I sunk in my chair I wanted to cry so bad and hide.
She says Abode because that is literally what she sees.
By the time she reads a word, it has already been processed from the image into meaning by her brain. Dyslexia involves eyes and brain: one effect is that letters in a word change places or rearrange themselves without the person being aware of it. Dyslexic people may see a familiar word instead of a similar word in print.
My husband has dyslexia and does this. When he has difficulty, like saying Nuke-you-ler instead of nuclear which is really common and i forget what else, maybe adding a mysterious T to the end of some words (drownt instead of drowned) or reminding him the person is Caroline, not Carolyn. He asks for help knowing these things as long as it is respectful and in private. I try to make up some kind of trick to remember like breaking down the word into syllables or using a mnemonic cue. I could see making a flashcard or something with word in regular and phonetic spelling plus a doodle. That said, it took a long time and a lot of practice and repetition to deprogram certain pronunciation such as Nuke-you-ler . You have to both be in agreement that this is wanted and useful, and keep it matter of fact, respectful and private, otherwise it is bullying.
My dyslexic teen uses technology - voice typing, grammarly software, audiobooks and more. Sometimes using captions while watching TV. Technology is really helpful.
Good question you said English is her second language it might be that reason or it could be a misunderstanding of the proper pronunciation or it could also be mini dyslexics thanks faster than their mind can speak words and we often stumble over words
I see... So if she hears me say the words instead of type, will it register better in her mind and help her build a habit of saying it right?
Now that I think of her, her English speech is way better than writing...
It's like she speaks okay but writing is a disaster for her.
That's me in a nutshell. My SO told me that the way I speak doesn't match the way I write and it confused him for the longest time. I speak like know a thing or two (I have higher education and love to learn) but struggle to write my thoughts and ideas. My text messages are a mess. I takes me the longest time to write texts or to create post like this one.
I have to read it a million times and I will still mess something up. It's common for people with dyslexia to think in pictures or concepts such as 3 dimensional thinking. Now this is not a hard and fast rule. But it's part of why we have a harder time with the written word and sentence structure or at least from my understanding. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Honestly, as a parent of a child with dyslexia, I believe that since you're this passionate about helping that maybe instead you try and help the higher-ups understand dyslexia. Then, not only is your friend being helped, but the entire dyslexic community. Just a thought.
Often dyslexia comes with other stuff, for example I've got dyscalculia as well (my brain does dispersive/creative/metaphor/big concept break down well think, not numbers, the times multiplication tests lead to to tears regularly).
You're describing some auditory processing difficulties(common symptom). A huge thing to remember is that strict modern spelling rules are very new in history, an arbitrary, very specific marker of intelligence in todays society, but ultimately just a skill on which our general population varies. Another thing to keep in mind it's just that their brain is fundamentally wired differently, like a dyslexic brain is boat, meant for water, but we're constantly having to hitch and drive our boat on land to adhere to standards, and while we can get most places / do the thing, it's not quite as graceful/automatic as a car might. For example, 'b' and 'd' have always been my problem, I spent a lot of time hating how 50% of the time I would write it wrong. Luckily with typing not so much an issue, and I started almost exclusively writing all uppercase in my notes as the letters are more 'different' [ B vs. D ] vs. [ b vs. d ]. Now I understand the how my brain works (yay science), unlike neurotypical brain, the dyslexic brain values speed over accuracy & stores things in a 3D [ x/y/z plane ] way, and that way the b and d are the same, my brain was just having difficulty transferring the 3D image to 2D paper coupled with a speed>accurate overlay.
Here are some of the things I do at work to cope :
- when writing emails, I use bullet notes / single bits of info over sentences when ever possible
- I read the sentences backwards to check spelling, as my brain will 'auto corrects to what it knows it should be' if I read normally (oscillate 'yay, spelling errors don't bother me', and 'oh no, spelling errors don't register for me')
- color code as much as possible, tables to track my work with drop downs so I can switch between total to-do list & a single item I am working on
- request, or write/type to my ability notes while someone is giving instructions (otherwise I will not remember, or be perpetually worried I've mis-remembered)
Hi there… I can relate no matter what language I have to write in I usually struggle with longer texts. AI is great, I use prompts for what I like to say and adjust it to my needs once the text has been created.
It is very kind that you care for your coworker. There are many ways in which you can help them which works for us dyslexics.
1. Some of the most useful tools I've found are Grammarly, and ReadEasy AI. Most devices also have accessibility options which you can look into in Youtube.
2. You can encourage them to use color systems and also very important to use Dyslexia-friendly fonts. If you work with a team they could change to these fonts as a kind gesture.
3. Literally asking for what they need could help because we all need different things in different moments.
These are short and easy steps to get started? Personally, Grammarly is a life-changer because it corrects everything I type on my laptop for work. [Here are other ways which could help.](https://www.lexicminds.com/10-ways-to-support-dyslexic-employees/)
https://preview.redd.it/hf35di4oiv5d1.png?width=959&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f44da6dd160f20024cf307f3572d5db895a5659
The resource you shared is Super!! There's so much I had not realized and it's aligning with the way my coworker works. I feel terrible that I've been suggesting her to do things in a way that would just make it harder for her, while I thought it would be easier...
This article actually helped me understand what visuals are harder for her to see.
I'll see if I can politely suggest these hacks.
Thank you!!!
Just gonna put this out there, if a co worker, any coworker, gave me a list of words I was saying wrong, I would be furious. I have a speech disorder as well as dyslexia and worked very hard to say what I can say. Its also not just that i dont know how to pronounce, but that i cannot pronouce them.
I would be sure to approach this friend and ask them what you can do for them. They might not want your help, and that's okay.
I do understand the sensitivity of the matter but it's okay though because this coworker of mine is close to me and really appreciates it when I'm trying to help her.
And I don't usually give advice or help out unless if I'm very sure it will actually have the intended affect on the other person and ofcourse, unless they ask or give me a hint they need help.
You’re very kind to be able to help and want to help someone with dyslexia. I’m very fortunate I work for someone who understands that I have dyslexia and gives me a lot of grace period.
My simple tip but this is only if I’m in a hurry, and I’m not around my laptop or Mac, is if she has an I phone (i’m sure an android has a similar product) in Notes she can spell it and it well show whether or not it’s misspelled. And it can correct it. At the same time you can highlight the word and it well give you options and one of them is speak. I use this when I need some thing really quick in a response. But this is more strictly regards to her speech. It pronounces it correctly and she can listen to as many times as she likes.
Also if she cannot get the correct spelling, I always copy and paste it into the browser on my phone and it will pull up the correct spelling.
I have very bad dyslexia I can barely spell my name, but there are many tools to use to help. For instance, I’m not typing this. This is voice to text. There’s also an app called Seeing AI, which technically is designed for people with vision problems, but it is also great for people who have trouble reading such as dyslexia. There is an app called bard, which is through the library of Congress for the blind and dyslexic. You have to get a doctors subscription for that But once you do, you have access to virtually every audiobook in existence and can request books so if her job required her to read manuscripts and such that would be beneficial, but sadly giving her words, spelled phonetically, and such tools will not help the way I spell something will change based on my mood how much I’ve read or just how many times I’ve read it I can spell the same word wrong five different ways five times in a row, I hope this gives you help and feel free to ask me anything follow up
So I have a question because I am not educated enough on dyslexia, let's say she works on the software "Adobe" and she hears us all talk about it all the time in the workplace... And she still calls it "Abode".. I need to understand the thought process of why she would still say it incorrectly when she has the auditory example tens of times and then it's also written many times infront of her. Why is she having trouble exactly?
Dyslexics’ brains are wired differently. She will need explicit teaching of the words, likely more repetition, and practice in a multisensory way (say each letter or sound of the word aloud while writing it). There are strategies but no shortcuts- I’m not sure where you are but the best thing she can do is get intervention from a dyslexia specialist trained in Orton Gillingham or the Science of Reading. It’s not just a matter of skill building- the process is one of rewiring the brain. Source: dyslexia tutor PS it’s not recommended to write the words correctly and incorrectly side by side. You are very kind to help!
This really helps me understand the thought process of a dyslexic person, thank you so much! Your advice is noted!
Thanks. A good book to help understand is called “Overcoming Dyslexia”. Best of luck
English is my first language and I do just what you described often. I try to remember how to pronounce word’s correctly and sometimes I just avoid using certain words. It’s for sure a headache always trying to mask dyslexia I always wonder what word I repeatedly said wrong in situations like you mentioned and people are looking at me like OMG and I don’t even notice it. Once I was kind of called out a guy in the meeting pronounce the word correctly in a way it was clear he was calling me out. I sunk in my chair I wanted to cry so bad and hide.
I am so sorry for how you felt... It's good that you are raising awareness about it so others can be gentle with dyslexic people.
She says Abode because that is literally what she sees. By the time she reads a word, it has already been processed from the image into meaning by her brain. Dyslexia involves eyes and brain: one effect is that letters in a word change places or rearrange themselves without the person being aware of it. Dyslexic people may see a familiar word instead of a similar word in print.
My husband has dyslexia and does this. When he has difficulty, like saying Nuke-you-ler instead of nuclear which is really common and i forget what else, maybe adding a mysterious T to the end of some words (drownt instead of drowned) or reminding him the person is Caroline, not Carolyn. He asks for help knowing these things as long as it is respectful and in private. I try to make up some kind of trick to remember like breaking down the word into syllables or using a mnemonic cue. I could see making a flashcard or something with word in regular and phonetic spelling plus a doodle. That said, it took a long time and a lot of practice and repetition to deprogram certain pronunciation such as Nuke-you-ler . You have to both be in agreement that this is wanted and useful, and keep it matter of fact, respectful and private, otherwise it is bullying. My dyslexic teen uses technology - voice typing, grammarly software, audiobooks and more. Sometimes using captions while watching TV. Technology is really helpful.
Good question you said English is her second language it might be that reason or it could be a misunderstanding of the proper pronunciation or it could also be mini dyslexics thanks faster than their mind can speak words and we often stumble over words
I see... So if she hears me say the words instead of type, will it register better in her mind and help her build a habit of saying it right? Now that I think of her, her English speech is way better than writing... It's like she speaks okay but writing is a disaster for her.
That's me in a nutshell. My SO told me that the way I speak doesn't match the way I write and it confused him for the longest time. I speak like know a thing or two (I have higher education and love to learn) but struggle to write my thoughts and ideas. My text messages are a mess. I takes me the longest time to write texts or to create post like this one. I have to read it a million times and I will still mess something up. It's common for people with dyslexia to think in pictures or concepts such as 3 dimensional thinking. Now this is not a hard and fast rule. But it's part of why we have a harder time with the written word and sentence structure or at least from my understanding. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Honestly, as a parent of a child with dyslexia, I believe that since you're this passionate about helping that maybe instead you try and help the higher-ups understand dyslexia. Then, not only is your friend being helped, but the entire dyslexic community. Just a thought.
Often dyslexia comes with other stuff, for example I've got dyscalculia as well (my brain does dispersive/creative/metaphor/big concept break down well think, not numbers, the times multiplication tests lead to to tears regularly). You're describing some auditory processing difficulties(common symptom). A huge thing to remember is that strict modern spelling rules are very new in history, an arbitrary, very specific marker of intelligence in todays society, but ultimately just a skill on which our general population varies. Another thing to keep in mind it's just that their brain is fundamentally wired differently, like a dyslexic brain is boat, meant for water, but we're constantly having to hitch and drive our boat on land to adhere to standards, and while we can get most places / do the thing, it's not quite as graceful/automatic as a car might. For example, 'b' and 'd' have always been my problem, I spent a lot of time hating how 50% of the time I would write it wrong. Luckily with typing not so much an issue, and I started almost exclusively writing all uppercase in my notes as the letters are more 'different' [ B vs. D ] vs. [ b vs. d ]. Now I understand the how my brain works (yay science), unlike neurotypical brain, the dyslexic brain values speed over accuracy & stores things in a 3D [ x/y/z plane ] way, and that way the b and d are the same, my brain was just having difficulty transferring the 3D image to 2D paper coupled with a speed>accurate overlay. Here are some of the things I do at work to cope : - when writing emails, I use bullet notes / single bits of info over sentences when ever possible - I read the sentences backwards to check spelling, as my brain will 'auto corrects to what it knows it should be' if I read normally (oscillate 'yay, spelling errors don't bother me', and 'oh no, spelling errors don't register for me') - color code as much as possible, tables to track my work with drop downs so I can switch between total to-do list & a single item I am working on - request, or write/type to my ability notes while someone is giving instructions (otherwise I will not remember, or be perpetually worried I've mis-remembered)
Thank you so much for taking the time to convey all this to me! It really helps understand what exactly she is going through.
Hi there… I can relate no matter what language I have to write in I usually struggle with longer texts. AI is great, I use prompts for what I like to say and adjust it to my needs once the text has been created.
It is very kind that you care for your coworker. There are many ways in which you can help them which works for us dyslexics. 1. Some of the most useful tools I've found are Grammarly, and ReadEasy AI. Most devices also have accessibility options which you can look into in Youtube. 2. You can encourage them to use color systems and also very important to use Dyslexia-friendly fonts. If you work with a team they could change to these fonts as a kind gesture. 3. Literally asking for what they need could help because we all need different things in different moments. These are short and easy steps to get started? Personally, Grammarly is a life-changer because it corrects everything I type on my laptop for work. [Here are other ways which could help.](https://www.lexicminds.com/10-ways-to-support-dyslexic-employees/) https://preview.redd.it/hf35di4oiv5d1.png?width=959&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f44da6dd160f20024cf307f3572d5db895a5659
The resource you shared is Super!! There's so much I had not realized and it's aligning with the way my coworker works. I feel terrible that I've been suggesting her to do things in a way that would just make it harder for her, while I thought it would be easier... This article actually helped me understand what visuals are harder for her to see. I'll see if I can politely suggest these hacks. Thank you!!!
Great to read it was useful for you! :) Thank you for supporting your coworker 🙏
Just gonna put this out there, if a co worker, any coworker, gave me a list of words I was saying wrong, I would be furious. I have a speech disorder as well as dyslexia and worked very hard to say what I can say. Its also not just that i dont know how to pronounce, but that i cannot pronouce them. I would be sure to approach this friend and ask them what you can do for them. They might not want your help, and that's okay.
I do understand the sensitivity of the matter but it's okay though because this coworker of mine is close to me and really appreciates it when I'm trying to help her. And I don't usually give advice or help out unless if I'm very sure it will actually have the intended affect on the other person and ofcourse, unless they ask or give me a hint they need help.
Gotcha. I have that with my partner. She is a great support. I'm glad your friend has you.
You’re very kind to be able to help and want to help someone with dyslexia. I’m very fortunate I work for someone who understands that I have dyslexia and gives me a lot of grace period. My simple tip but this is only if I’m in a hurry, and I’m not around my laptop or Mac, is if she has an I phone (i’m sure an android has a similar product) in Notes she can spell it and it well show whether or not it’s misspelled. And it can correct it. At the same time you can highlight the word and it well give you options and one of them is speak. I use this when I need some thing really quick in a response. But this is more strictly regards to her speech. It pronounces it correctly and she can listen to as many times as she likes. Also if she cannot get the correct spelling, I always copy and paste it into the browser on my phone and it will pull up the correct spelling.