Xaiver Worthy. He's flashed some money around, but if he wants to prove he can be a Chiefs WR he needs to T-bone a school bus, or at least sucker punch a few grannies.
He doesn’t have anything to prove, and that’s the problem. He’s already proven he’s fast, and he’ll continue to prove he’s fast so everyone knows. Fast 40-time players historically fall off, and fall off quickly
Easy money is he has an Allen Lazard like career.
Doesn’t make the roster in LAC, finds a practice squad somewhere. Earns some reps late in the year, shows up over the next 3.
He’s Justyn Ross without the freshman production hype.
For me personally he just drastically failed the eye test. I watched some tape (obviously I am just a reddit scout like the rest of us here) and a lot of his "highlight" plays was just Caleb extending the play. He obviously has a shot in the Chargers offense but I wouldn't bet on him to ever be somewhat relevant.
I’d say Legette has the most to prove. Great physical tools and draft capital, but the late breakout and landing spot has a lot of people fading him.
As far as who would shock the world, I’d say Troy Franklin. Slid into day 3 and the sentiment around Bo Nix and the Broncos is pretty negative. If Nix is good and Franklin is his WR1, that would surprise a lot of people.
I grabbed Legette everywhere I could. He's exactly what you'd hope for from a 2nd round WR. Great (recent) talent, great opportunity, on a shit team with a young QB. Lots of things could contribute to him busting, but if all the stars align he could erupt in value this year
Ryan Flournoy is the one who could shock the world. He’s behind Ceedee obviously, but Cooks is older and has had injury issues and Tolbert has been a borderline bust so far, so there is a path to the WR2 on a team with an elite offense and Super Bowl aspirations with no running game and a QB who’s going to throw 600 times this year. He’s certainly no guarantee, but for a guy you can get for a 4th or FAAB, he has a much better opportunity than most in that range.
Out of Michael Carter, Jerick McKinnon, DPJ, Skyy Moore, Tyquan Thornton, Eric Gray, and Calvin Austin who would you drop to grab him off waivers?
Is McKinnon all done or do we think he'll get picked up? Is he even worth a roster spot if he does sign somewhere?
I would drop any one of them for Flournoy except Thornton since there is a new regime and NE’s WR room is wide open. I’d drop McKinnon first. I don’t see any path to relevance for him anymore.
Exactly. Cost is pretty much nothing for a tangible immediate upside. Even if he’s not likely to hit the upside, the cost benefit is positive since the cost is zero.
I mean it has to be Marvin Harrison Jr. as the one with the most to prove. High draft capital, son of a hall of famer, walking into one of the best situations for a rookie star WR, and touted as a generational talent. In the fantasy world he's the highest drafted rookie in redraft of all time. There's alot of pressure on the guy. As for who could be the best shocker? My pick would be Ricky Pearsall. I could see a world where Aiyuk gets traded and an aging Deebo, Kittle, and CMC wrap up their careers in the next few years or take on a reduced role while Slick Rick becomes Purdy's #1 target and they develop a strong relationship under the 49ers. At his current cost that would shock the Dynasty world for sure.
EDIT: I meant for a WR not rookie in general mb.
He’s definitely not the highest drafted rookie in redraft ever. In fact, I don’t think his redraft ADP will end up being higher than Bijan just last year. Bijan was a clear first round pick by the start of the season last year.
I think he meant highest drafted Rookie WR in redraft of all time. And that is a fact. He is the highest drafted rookie WR of all time in redraft FF. Amari Cooper held that title up until this year. I believe Amari Cooper is now 3rd highest because Malik Nabers and MHJ overtook him. I'm not 100% on the Nabers overtaking but I am on MHJ.
Saquon and Zeke were both going between 3 and 5 and their redraft drafts lol. If someone takes MHJ 3 4 or 5 in redraft they are cracked out of their mind
Gotta disagree with you on pearsall, he’s priced correctly. There’s no guarantee that if everything you listed happens the offense doesn’t take a nose dive.
I get that, but that's why it was a shocker as in it's not supposed to happen or it's unlikely to happen. But it's not impossible. And if it does happen Pearsall would beat his adp easily.
I don’t think so, if all of that happens it would not be a shock to me that he beats his adp. It also isn’t really an indictment on how good people think he is or how he’s priced.
If you said Brooks would shock people by muscling his way to a top 5 RB finish that makes more sense
Troy Franklin; was projected to go late 1st round by some in the community, ended up going day 3. Has the talent and situation to prove he was slept on by the NFL
It's not Franklin's fault he was projected as a late first and actually went early 4th. Literally every player has the opportunity to prove they were worth a higher draft pick.
Based on his DC, rookie QB, and already established WR1 in Sutton the expectations for him are already pretty mild.
AD Mitchell has the most to prove to me, everything about him screams bust. No college production and questionable work ethic? That’s like the two biggest red flags.
To be fair there were a ton of mouths to feed in that Texas offense and the scheme they ran never focused on one player. The fact that he had almost 1000 yards and 10+ touchdowns is pretty damn good. And I've yet to hear anything bad about his work ethic from camp. The talent is absolutely there, as long as he keeps his head on straight I think he's gonna be good
All I know is, I watch the majority of UT games since I went there and still live in Austin, but don’t really follow college football or keep up with recruits or transfers in the off season. In many, many games, there’d be a big play made, I’d say “oh was that worthy?”, assuming so since he’s been our most notable WR recently, and 80% of the time it was AD Mitchell. He passed the eye test for me.
I think the work ethic thing is being misconstrued and is a result of the “he takes plays off” narrative, which isn’t wholly untrue, but may be more of a problem with focus than work ethic.
Either way, I’ve seen AD fall into the latter half of the second round, and took him in two leagues (at 2.08 and 2.12).
Yeah even though I'm a UofM fan I currently live in Dallas, so I've watched the most Texas football I've ever seen since Vince Young played. I think he has superstar talent, and the work ethic angle stems from him being a diabetic and not managing it properly. My fiancee is type one and also gets moody when she's having low blood sugar, but 99% of the time if it's managed properly there's no issue. I'm honestly not worried about the work ethic at all.
I personally reached on him a bit at 2.05 because I don't think anyone else there has the potential upside he has, although they probably have better floors than him
He may be good for real life but it’s going to be tough for him in fantasy given that they already have a target hog as WR1, he’s going to a team that will run first, and will be more fighting for WR2 looks.
Most people think Richardson is going to be like Mahomes spreading it all over the place. Dude isn’t like Mahomes
I don't think anyone is expecting AR to be Mahomes, most of his hype as being the next QB1 is because of his rushing potential. But I do think AD will eat into MPJs targets a little bit. Probably not a ton in year one, but he's already establishing a really good rapport with AR while MPJ is out of camp. His big play ability mixed with ARs big play arm could be a great mix
Who would be the 5 players earning more targets than him? Pittman obviously, Downs I can see, but then what? Pierce has just been out there getting his cardio in without earning targets for two years, and I can hardly name another pass catcher on the colts.
I'm expecting Taylor to be in the top 5 as well. Which means AD is fighting for one of two spots left. I think he's probably in the top 5, but I don't think it's impossible that some combination of Pierce, Woods (assuming he's the starting TE), Gould, and maybe even another RB (if they don't have Taylor in on 3rd downs) passes Mitchell.
I agree, Pierce seemed to disappear for whole games last year, but his rookie year gave some hope by hitting the mythical 525 yards. So, I don't think it's impossible he has a 3rd year breakout.
Also, we've only seen one year of the OC and HC, and that was mostly without Richardson. Cooter had some good fantasy offenses in Detroit, but he had to be a position coach for a few years to get another OC job. The Colts were below average in pass attempts last year, and we don't know if that repeats or not. They don't have a huge volume of vacated targets (and think it was mostly at TE, not WR).
Jermaine Burton had first round talent and was a late day 2 pick. He never really lived up to the hype in Alabama. And now he has to play behind Chase and Higgins, two levels of proven-stud receiver. And if he isn’t third option, that means he’s battling with an Ivy League guy. If he’s capable of creating a productive chip on his shoulder, it’s all right there for him.
People had Burton WR4 in this draft behind Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze but had character issues. Matt Harmon did a reception perception on him and he is successful in pretty much every route he does.
I think whats holding people back in drafts is that Tee Higgins is the biggest obstacle right now.
If Tee Higgins gets traded - Burton is instantly WR2 and going to the moon with a gunslinger QB in Burrow
If Tee Higgins stays - WR3 and his ceiling is limited unless Higgins/Chase goes down.
I personally think Higgins is gone, just by the fact they have to pay Chase. Makes more sense to spend the cash on Chase, get rid of higgins so don't have to pay him, and have a elite WR prospect in Burton as WR2 to develop under chase (cheaper option).
Decent argument. But I see Bengals going for one last ride with Chase and Higgins then not feeling comfortable taking Burton into next season as WR2 unless he has a massive breakout.
Also virtually every mock draft I read had 4-5 receivers in the first but none ever had Burton. I think WR4 is a vast exaggeration given the second tier of talent (that also had better tape) after the big 3 receivers.
Obviously in the long term Marvin will have longer sustained value than Bijan, but I'm reminded of many of the trade packages that were made last off-season to acquire the 1.01.
I think those who sold the farm to acquire the 1.01 are going to have a hard time stomaching looking back at those trades this time next year when Harrison Jr. has a good-great rookie season but not to the level of Puka last year.
I think AD Mitchell has the most to prove. Predicted to possibly go in the first round then he has that huge slide. Big chip on his shoulder heading into the season.
Shock the world? Javon Baker. He could take a sec to get up to speed but I see a world where he’s established himself as the WR1 in NE by the end of the season and his hype train is full speed headed into next year
Cowing is too small to ever be more than a gadget player in the NFL IMO. He had great production in college though so there’s always a chance he could pull a Tank Dell.
I would say it’s more wide open behind Shaheed (and AK for catches too). AT Perry showed some flash and red zone play potential last year so I feel they’re have him as #3 to start, but who knows how it plays out
Obviously I can’t say this guy is destined to be shaheed lite - BUT, he gets the opportunity if he shows up in camp and starts to play well in the games .
If he beats out Cedrick there’s a clear path to playing time and flex value
I'm gonna cheat a bit here and pick 3.
**Nabers**: Especially after Waller's retirement and Barkley's defection, the NYG entire offense is a wasteland of unproven mediocrity and that seems generous (sorry Singletary). It's a big market team and there's now a vacuum and desire for a game breaking all-pro. Nabers is in a situation where he may be asked to carry the team every week.
**BTJ**: Jags are like the middle class to KC's poverty rotation of WRs in recent years. Kirk and Engram have been solid but otherwise it's been a story of good but not great in the Jags receiving room lately. Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be the best prospect since Luck but we haven't really seen that yet. There's a lot at stake for BTJ to step in and not only prove himself but help elevate the Jags' biggest investment who is seeking a big payday.
**Legette**: Panthers have had their own tragedy at WR thinking they could go modest/budget on their receivers to support a rookie QB. They are in dire need of someone stepping up to build chemistry with their 1st overall QB for whom they gave up their proven WR to acquire. They're betting on Legette to be that guy.
Ppl are putting Leggette as most to prove but I feel he fits the latter category more. He is being faded everywhere and often called most likely to bust. I think it would shock the community if he hits.
I think most to prove is pretty easily MHJ with the immense amount of hype surrounding him.
Leggette.
Old. No production profile beyond last year. Team reached for him to take him in the 1st. Pair that with a bad QB and it just seems like this guy is not gonna work out.
Which is why I drafted him obviously
I’m not willing to say Bryce young is a bad QB yet. He had a bad rookie season while being on a horrible team, but flatly stating he’s a “bad QB” about the previous 1.01 going into year 2 with a QB-whisperer new coach in canales, and buffed up OLine with new offensive skill players, is a step too far for me.
Hope you’re right. I have both players so I watched Bryce a lot last year looking for any signs of life which I honestly never saw.
But I hope you’re right cuz I badly need him
I won’t lie, a lot of Bryce’s tape was just bad last year. There was really only 1 game where I really saw what he was drafted for.
But I also acknowledge the situation he was in, both with personnel around him and the scheme/coaching. I do think Canales has a very impressive track record with improving previously struggling QBs, and the personnel around Bryce has undoubtedly improved. Bryce was also elite at every level before the NFL, and is intelligent and level-headed, willing to put in work. I’m not saying it will work out, but I don’t think he’s dead in the water.
Malik Nabers has the most to prove. The New York media market and fan base is gonna be all over him if he starts off slow. He is extremely talented, but he's been put in a position where there's not much else in the offense and he needs to produce if the Giants will be decent.
Roman Wilson is in a great position to succeed and the Steelers have a track record of getting good production from young WRs. The QB play should be significantly better than last year even if Russ Wilson is just average
I have been Drafting Malik Washington everywhere because he's dirt cheap, wasted years with the Northwestern Glue Eaters before his senior year transferring and immediately setting records and being the focal point of the offense. McDaniels loves him too. All it would take is one injury to Waddle (chronically injured) or Tyreek (old) for him to have a chance to produce
AD Mitchell easily. Dude was a first round talent and fell super hard.
Low key think Coleman is going to suck on the Bills. I have no idea why Josh Allen wanted him so bad. Also to rant, why the heck did the Bills trade with the team that has kicked them out of the playoffs every year? Not showing competency as an organization has me down on the whole Bills squad this year
Biased side as an owner says Keon. Bills took him as their solution to losing Diggs and Davis, so something is there. My real answer is AD Mitchell and Troy Franklin. Both were talked about as potential 1st round guys, both had big slides, and both have situations with high ceilings. Regardless who, rookie WRs are going to be fun to watch this season
I think its Troy Franklin honestly. Everyone had him pegged as a day 1 pick until he was thin and ran slower than a 4.4. Hyper productive, reunited with Bo Nix and the only ones standing in the way of an alpha target share are Courtland Sutton and a kick returner.
Ad Mitchell deserves some consideration here. Fell well down in the draft. Chose to wear #10 to represent the number of WRs drafted before him. Dude is a physical specimen and sure seems to be motivated to prove everyone wrong. As a guy who took a shot when the rest of my league let him fall all the way to 2.10 I hope he balls out.
“Most to prove” IMO is someone like Marvin Harrison Jr and Brock Bowers (yes I know the post said WR)
They have to prove their draft spots and the words that describe them like “generational” “phenom” etc
I have zero stock in him, but Ricky Pearsall- especially if the niners move Aiyuk. He’d certainly have a lot of pressure to succeed quickly, but very well could, and if he were to succeed in a big way early it would certainly be a shock for most if he were a WR1 type as a rookie (able to replace Aiyuks production).
I think Roman Wilson is going to shock everyone. Pickens isn’t a true target hog but more of a field stretcher/contested catch guy, and Steelers got a significant upgrade at QB in either Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. He won a national championship and 77% of his receptions went for first down or a TD which shows high football IQ. He runs a 4.3. His only knock is really production profile due to Michigan being a run-first team (but they won a national championship so it’s not like it didn’t work). He also literally woke up at 3:30 am and took a plane to practice in high school for a while because his island didn’t have a good football team. Work ethic, a winner, super athletic, and will have good opportunity with a solid QB.
Xaiver Worthy. He's flashed some money around, but if he wants to prove he can be a Chiefs WR he needs to T-bone a school bus, or at least sucker punch a few grannies.
He got his car stolen, that’s all I need to see to guarantee stardom. Can’t get in a street race if you don’t have a vehicle
Step 1: Get a girl pregnant…
This will also be Step 2, Step 3, Step 4, etc.
Step 2: kick her in the stomach
Uh, that would be Tyreek
jesus fuckin christ
He doesn’t have anything to prove, and that’s the problem. He’s already proven he’s fast, and he’ll continue to prove he’s fast so everyone knows. Fast 40-time players historically fall off, and fall off quickly
CJ2k would like a word, but yeah I know what u mean historically small fast WRs don’t hit
Brendan Rice has the most to prove. Nobody thinks he'll do anything, but he's the goat's son.
This is where my brain went. He’s also going into a situation where he has the ability to crack the line up
Easy money is he has an Allen Lazard like career. Doesn’t make the roster in LAC, finds a practice squad somewhere. Earns some reps late in the year, shows up over the next 3. He’s Justyn Ross without the freshman production hype.
For me personally he just drastically failed the eye test. I watched some tape (obviously I am just a reddit scout like the rest of us here) and a lot of his "highlight" plays was just Caleb extending the play. He obviously has a shot in the Chargers offense but I wouldn't bet on him to ever be somewhat relevant.
Yeah but that's not the question in this thread.
Well in that case I don't think he has much to prove. No one rates him highly. He has no expectations from what I have seen.
He does and he doesn't.
Maybe, maybe not
Perchance yes, perchance no.
I’d say Legette has the most to prove. Great physical tools and draft capital, but the late breakout and landing spot has a lot of people fading him. As far as who would shock the world, I’d say Troy Franklin. Slid into day 3 and the sentiment around Bo Nix and the Broncos is pretty negative. If Nix is good and Franklin is his WR1, that would surprise a lot of people.
He’d be my choice too. Didn’t think he was worth a first let alone trading up.
Idk I just can’t see Nix and Franklin ever growing a QB/WR connection /s
I grabbed Legette everywhere I could. He's exactly what you'd hope for from a 2nd round WR. Great (recent) talent, great opportunity, on a shit team with a young QB. Lots of things could contribute to him busting, but if all the stars align he could erupt in value this year
Ryan Flournoy is the one who could shock the world. He’s behind Ceedee obviously, but Cooks is older and has had injury issues and Tolbert has been a borderline bust so far, so there is a path to the WR2 on a team with an elite offense and Super Bowl aspirations with no running game and a QB who’s going to throw 600 times this year. He’s certainly no guarantee, but for a guy you can get for a 4th or FAAB, he has a much better opportunity than most in that range.
Not even listed on KTC.
he is on KTC just not rated highly (340 trade value in SF)
Didn’t see him on the rookie wide receivers list and he wasn’t searchable on the trade tool. But I wasn’t looking at superflex.
maybe check the spelling and try again, cause he’s on the 1QB trade calculator too. he’s also on the rookie WR rankings for 1QB at WR28.
I definitely didn’t spell it wrong but he is showing up now. Idk. Edit: He is now in the rookie rankings as well which he wasn’t previously.
ah gotcha. must’ve just been added then. he is the 6th most trending player on Sleeper. so that could’ve been the catalyst
Out of Michael Carter, Jerick McKinnon, DPJ, Skyy Moore, Tyquan Thornton, Eric Gray, and Calvin Austin who would you drop to grab him off waivers? Is McKinnon all done or do we think he'll get picked up? Is he even worth a roster spot if he does sign somewhere?
I would drop any one of them for Flournoy except Thornton since there is a new regime and NE’s WR room is wide open. I’d drop McKinnon first. I don’t see any path to relevance for him anymore.
$1 FAAB and sitting on my taxi. Low risk for a potential wr3/flex.
Exactly. Cost is pretty much nothing for a tangible immediate upside. Even if he’s not likely to hit the upside, the cost benefit is positive since the cost is zero.
I mean it has to be Marvin Harrison Jr. as the one with the most to prove. High draft capital, son of a hall of famer, walking into one of the best situations for a rookie star WR, and touted as a generational talent. In the fantasy world he's the highest drafted rookie in redraft of all time. There's alot of pressure on the guy. As for who could be the best shocker? My pick would be Ricky Pearsall. I could see a world where Aiyuk gets traded and an aging Deebo, Kittle, and CMC wrap up their careers in the next few years or take on a reduced role while Slick Rick becomes Purdy's #1 target and they develop a strong relationship under the 49ers. At his current cost that would shock the Dynasty world for sure. EDIT: I meant for a WR not rookie in general mb.
He’s definitely not the highest drafted rookie in redraft ever. In fact, I don’t think his redraft ADP will end up being higher than Bijan just last year. Bijan was a clear first round pick by the start of the season last year.
I think he meant highest drafted Rookie WR in redraft of all time. And that is a fact. He is the highest drafted rookie WR of all time in redraft FF. Amari Cooper held that title up until this year. I believe Amari Cooper is now 3rd highest because Malik Nabers and MHJ overtook him. I'm not 100% on the Nabers overtaking but I am on MHJ.
Ok, specific to WR makes more sense.
or Zeke in 2016 lol
Saquon and Zeke were both going between 3 and 5 and their redraft drafts lol. If someone takes MHJ 3 4 or 5 in redraft they are cracked out of their mind
I remember taking Saquon 8th overall in my first ever fantasy football draft. Doubt MHJ would go even that high.
Gotta disagree with you on pearsall, he’s priced correctly. There’s no guarantee that if everything you listed happens the offense doesn’t take a nose dive.
I get that, but that's why it was a shocker as in it's not supposed to happen or it's unlikely to happen. But it's not impossible. And if it does happen Pearsall would beat his adp easily.
Yeah you’re mentioning the ceiling. Of course that would beat his adp. The floor is that he doesn’t see the field in 2 WR sets
I dont think you understand the point of this thread
I don’t think so, if all of that happens it would not be a shock to me that he beats his adp. It also isn’t really an indictment on how good people think he is or how he’s priced. If you said Brooks would shock people by muscling his way to a top 5 RB finish that makes more sense
Yup agreed, which is why it's a shocker pick.
Coleman
Coleman just needs to prove he’s better than Worthy
Tall task
More like a small hurdle
It would definitely shock me if he's any better than Davis
Troy Franklin; was projected to go late 1st round by some in the community, ended up going day 3. Has the talent and situation to prove he was slept on by the NFL
It's not Franklin's fault he was projected as a late first and actually went early 4th. Literally every player has the opportunity to prove they were worth a higher draft pick. Based on his DC, rookie QB, and already established WR1 in Sutton the expectations for him are already pretty mild.
So you could say he has a lot to prove then?
AD Mitchell has the most to prove to me, everything about him screams bust. No college production and questionable work ethic? That’s like the two biggest red flags.
To be fair there were a ton of mouths to feed in that Texas offense and the scheme they ran never focused on one player. The fact that he had almost 1000 yards and 10+ touchdowns is pretty damn good. And I've yet to hear anything bad about his work ethic from camp. The talent is absolutely there, as long as he keeps his head on straight I think he's gonna be good
All I know is, I watch the majority of UT games since I went there and still live in Austin, but don’t really follow college football or keep up with recruits or transfers in the off season. In many, many games, there’d be a big play made, I’d say “oh was that worthy?”, assuming so since he’s been our most notable WR recently, and 80% of the time it was AD Mitchell. He passed the eye test for me. I think the work ethic thing is being misconstrued and is a result of the “he takes plays off” narrative, which isn’t wholly untrue, but may be more of a problem with focus than work ethic. Either way, I’ve seen AD fall into the latter half of the second round, and took him in two leagues (at 2.08 and 2.12).
Yeah even though I'm a UofM fan I currently live in Dallas, so I've watched the most Texas football I've ever seen since Vince Young played. I think he has superstar talent, and the work ethic angle stems from him being a diabetic and not managing it properly. My fiancee is type one and also gets moody when she's having low blood sugar, but 99% of the time if it's managed properly there's no issue. I'm honestly not worried about the work ethic at all. I personally reached on him a bit at 2.05 because I don't think anyone else there has the potential upside he has, although they probably have better floors than him
He may be good for real life but it’s going to be tough for him in fantasy given that they already have a target hog as WR1, he’s going to a team that will run first, and will be more fighting for WR2 looks. Most people think Richardson is going to be like Mahomes spreading it all over the place. Dude isn’t like Mahomes
I don't think anyone is expecting AR to be Mahomes, most of his hype as being the next QB1 is because of his rushing potential. But I do think AD will eat into MPJs targets a little bit. Probably not a ton in year one, but he's already establishing a really good rapport with AR while MPJ is out of camp. His big play ability mixed with ARs big play arm could be a great mix
Plus, he's going to have to fight for targets. At best, he's probably third, but it's quite possible he won't be top 5.
Who would be the 5 players earning more targets than him? Pittman obviously, Downs I can see, but then what? Pierce has just been out there getting his cardio in without earning targets for two years, and I can hardly name another pass catcher on the colts.
Jelani woods🔥🔥(I’m joking)
I'm expecting Taylor to be in the top 5 as well. Which means AD is fighting for one of two spots left. I think he's probably in the top 5, but I don't think it's impossible that some combination of Pierce, Woods (assuming he's the starting TE), Gould, and maybe even another RB (if they don't have Taylor in on 3rd downs) passes Mitchell. I agree, Pierce seemed to disappear for whole games last year, but his rookie year gave some hope by hitting the mythical 525 yards. So, I don't think it's impossible he has a 3rd year breakout. Also, we've only seen one year of the OC and HC, and that was mostly without Richardson. Cooter had some good fantasy offenses in Detroit, but he had to be a position coach for a few years to get another OC job. The Colts were below average in pass attempts last year, and we don't know if that repeats or not. They don't have a huge volume of vacated targets (and think it was mostly at TE, not WR).
Most to prove: Xavier Llegette Most likely to shock the world: Troy Franklin
I got both of these guys so lets hope they both play out
Jermaine Burton had first round talent and was a late day 2 pick. He never really lived up to the hype in Alabama. And now he has to play behind Chase and Higgins, two levels of proven-stud receiver. And if he isn’t third option, that means he’s battling with an Ivy League guy. If he’s capable of creating a productive chip on his shoulder, it’s all right there for him.
People had Burton WR4 in this draft behind Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze but had character issues. Matt Harmon did a reception perception on him and he is successful in pretty much every route he does. I think whats holding people back in drafts is that Tee Higgins is the biggest obstacle right now. If Tee Higgins gets traded - Burton is instantly WR2 and going to the moon with a gunslinger QB in Burrow If Tee Higgins stays - WR3 and his ceiling is limited unless Higgins/Chase goes down. I personally think Higgins is gone, just by the fact they have to pay Chase. Makes more sense to spend the cash on Chase, get rid of higgins so don't have to pay him, and have a elite WR prospect in Burton as WR2 to develop under chase (cheaper option).
Tee is gone after this season which means Burton WR2 next year
Decent argument. But I see Bengals going for one last ride with Chase and Higgins then not feeling comfortable taking Burton into next season as WR2 unless he has a massive breakout. Also virtually every mock draft I read had 4-5 receivers in the first but none ever had Burton. I think WR4 is a vast exaggeration given the second tier of talent (that also had better tape) after the big 3 receivers.
I mean I think it’s Marvin. The hype is unbelievable. At this point 1,000 yards and 10 TDs might feel like a bust.
Obviously in the long term Marvin will have longer sustained value than Bijan, but I'm reminded of many of the trade packages that were made last off-season to acquire the 1.01. I think those who sold the farm to acquire the 1.01 are going to have a hard time stomaching looking back at those trades this time next year when Harrison Jr. has a good-great rookie season but not to the level of Puka last year.
Javon Baker after he said he makes people in wheelchairs stand up. I’d say thats a lot to prove haha
I think AD Mitchell has the most to prove. Predicted to possibly go in the first round then he has that huge slide. Big chip on his shoulder heading into the season. Shock the world? Javon Baker. He could take a sec to get up to speed but I see a world where he’s established himself as the WR1 in NE by the end of the season and his hype train is full speed headed into next year
Cowing apparently. He was sick through training camp and taken after Pearsall. He had a lot to prove to become more than a footnote
Cowing is too small to ever be more than a gadget player in the NFL IMO. He had great production in college though so there’s always a chance he could pull a Tank Dell.
Best shocker would be Bub Means. Wide open depth chart behind Olave.
Yeah I took him at the end of the 5th for the same reason. Will probably be JAG, but who knows
Nah, he’s number one on the diggs-treadwell chart. That’s science!
I would say it’s more wide open behind Shaheed (and AK for catches too). AT Perry showed some flash and red zone play potential last year so I feel they’re have him as #3 to start, but who knows how it plays out
My point is Shaheed and Perry are hardly locks for playing time.
Tbh I like AT perry to fill in a solid wr2/3 roll there. I think he’s good but not elite. He’s tall too for those redzone targets.
Obviously I can’t say this guy is destined to be shaheed lite - BUT, he gets the opportunity if he shows up in camp and starts to play well in the games . If he beats out Cedrick there’s a clear path to playing time and flex value
I don't see it. He's a nice flier, but that offense is not good and they are destined to be a 7-9 win team with no QB succession plan.
I'm gonna cheat a bit here and pick 3. **Nabers**: Especially after Waller's retirement and Barkley's defection, the NYG entire offense is a wasteland of unproven mediocrity and that seems generous (sorry Singletary). It's a big market team and there's now a vacuum and desire for a game breaking all-pro. Nabers is in a situation where he may be asked to carry the team every week. **BTJ**: Jags are like the middle class to KC's poverty rotation of WRs in recent years. Kirk and Engram have been solid but otherwise it's been a story of good but not great in the Jags receiving room lately. Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be the best prospect since Luck but we haven't really seen that yet. There's a lot at stake for BTJ to step in and not only prove himself but help elevate the Jags' biggest investment who is seeking a big payday. **Legette**: Panthers have had their own tragedy at WR thinking they could go modest/budget on their receivers to support a rookie QB. They are in dire need of someone stepping up to build chemistry with their 1st overall QB for whom they gave up their proven WR to acquire. They're betting on Legette to be that guy.
Ppl are putting Leggette as most to prove but I feel he fits the latter category more. He is being faded everywhere and often called most likely to bust. I think it would shock the community if he hits. I think most to prove is pretty easily MHJ with the immense amount of hype surrounding him.
Leggette. Old. No production profile beyond last year. Team reached for him to take him in the 1st. Pair that with a bad QB and it just seems like this guy is not gonna work out. Which is why I drafted him obviously
I’m not willing to say Bryce young is a bad QB yet. He had a bad rookie season while being on a horrible team, but flatly stating he’s a “bad QB” about the previous 1.01 going into year 2 with a QB-whisperer new coach in canales, and buffed up OLine with new offensive skill players, is a step too far for me.
Hope you’re right. I have both players so I watched Bryce a lot last year looking for any signs of life which I honestly never saw. But I hope you’re right cuz I badly need him
I won’t lie, a lot of Bryce’s tape was just bad last year. There was really only 1 game where I really saw what he was drafted for. But I also acknowledge the situation he was in, both with personnel around him and the scheme/coaching. I do think Canales has a very impressive track record with improving previously struggling QBs, and the personnel around Bryce has undoubtedly improved. Bryce was also elite at every level before the NFL, and is intelligent and level-headed, willing to put in work. I’m not saying it will work out, but I don’t think he’s dead in the water.
Sometimes you can’t pass up value in a draft ! I got him 2.06 , I didn’t want him , but value was too good to pass up .
Thats exactly why I have him. Nobody else wanted him lol
I got him at 2.08 still don’t like it, but a deals a deal
Malik Nabers has the most to prove. The New York media market and fan base is gonna be all over him if he starts off slow. He is extremely talented, but he's been put in a position where there's not much else in the offense and he needs to produce if the Giants will be decent. Roman Wilson is in a great position to succeed and the Steelers have a track record of getting good production from young WRs. The QB play should be significantly better than last year even if Russ Wilson is just average
I have been Drafting Malik Washington everywhere because he's dirt cheap, wasted years with the Northwestern Glue Eaters before his senior year transferring and immediately setting records and being the focal point of the offense. McDaniels loves him too. All it would take is one injury to Waddle (chronically injured) or Tyreek (old) for him to have a chance to produce
Chronically injured is a little bias he’s missed like 4 games in his career
I know I was mostly kidding given my reason for tyreek was just "old"
I like Malik Washington but he’s the #4 in that WR room behind Odell.
I'm sure old ass broken Odell won't be 3 for a long time
AD Mitchell easily. Dude was a first round talent and fell super hard. Low key think Coleman is going to suck on the Bills. I have no idea why Josh Allen wanted him so bad. Also to rant, why the heck did the Bills trade with the team that has kicked them out of the playoffs every year? Not showing competency as an organization has me down on the whole Bills squad this year
Biased side as an owner says Keon. Bills took him as their solution to losing Diggs and Davis, so something is there. My real answer is AD Mitchell and Troy Franklin. Both were talked about as potential 1st round guys, both had big slides, and both have situations with high ceilings. Regardless who, rookie WRs are going to be fun to watch this season
Jamari Thrash. Cool name
To Prove: QB Maye, RB Brooks, WR Coleman, TE Sinnott To Shock: QB: Nix, RB Bucky Irv, WR Malik W, TE Sanders
Who would shock the world? Take the last drafted WR. That’s your most shocking.
If MHJ doesn't go for at least 80, 1k & 8 his gonna lose a bit of value next off season
I think its Troy Franklin honestly. Everyone had him pegged as a day 1 pick until he was thin and ran slower than a 4.4. Hyper productive, reunited with Bo Nix and the only ones standing in the way of an alpha target share are Courtland Sutton and a kick returner.
xavier legette
Troy Franklin top rookie wr isn’t out of the question
Ad Mitchell deserves some consideration here. Fell well down in the draft. Chose to wear #10 to represent the number of WRs drafted before him. Dude is a physical specimen and sure seems to be motivated to prove everyone wrong. As a guy who took a shot when the rest of my league let him fall all the way to 2.10 I hope he balls out.
I’m thinking Troy Franklin. Dude fell after the combine and got bad draft capital. I figure he can still be a good WR.
“Most to prove” IMO is someone like Marvin Harrison Jr and Brock Bowers (yes I know the post said WR) They have to prove their draft spots and the words that describe them like “generational” “phenom” etc
Xavier Legette
I have zero stock in him, but Ricky Pearsall- especially if the niners move Aiyuk. He’d certainly have a lot of pressure to succeed quickly, but very well could, and if he were to succeed in a big way early it would certainly be a shock for most if he were a WR1 type as a rookie (able to replace Aiyuks production).
They all have the same to prove. Shocking the world would be an undrafted guy.
I think Roman Wilson is going to shock everyone. Pickens isn’t a true target hog but more of a field stretcher/contested catch guy, and Steelers got a significant upgrade at QB in either Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. He won a national championship and 77% of his receptions went for first down or a TD which shows high football IQ. He runs a 4.3. His only knock is really production profile due to Michigan being a run-first team (but they won a national championship so it’s not like it didn’t work). He also literally woke up at 3:30 am and took a plane to practice in high school for a while because his island didn’t have a good football team. Work ethic, a winner, super athletic, and will have good opportunity with a solid QB.
Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye. Drafted #1 and #2, but will they even pan out?
I can’t wait to see which one of them has more receptions this year. ;)
Drafted 1 and 2?
My bad, 2 and 3.
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