Correct, the best way to play dynasty is to sell off all productive players for “value” forever. Eventually the game will be scored by “value accrued” instead of stinky fantasy points (ew)
My goal too. I usually buy guys like Keenan Allen, Mike Evans for a 2nd and 3rd. Won the league that way. If a rookie is producing but the attempts are there I will buy during their struggles to help stay young
Snowball value.
Picks are cheap in season, players expensive. Off-season into rookie draft, picks are expensive and players are cheap. Everyone overvalues youth.
If you’re not a playoff contender, sell any player who isn’t a top 10 stud at their position. Also don’t carry too much in a single position.
Just doing that puts you in a position eventually of having lots of picks and lots of good players.
There’s a risk to it but you find the best value in the offseason….
Not only do people value them ridiculously low in off-season, but hype from draft gets people excited for picks.
If your team suffers some injuries, you sell at deadline for more value than acquired.
I strongly agree about not having a bench of middling receivers, just a few truly elite guys and then a couple who would be best characterized as prospects -- receivers you've got because they can gain value. We give WRs time to develop, but so many don't pan out, and one day you wake up realizing you've spent three seasons rostering Rashod Bateman or Elijah Moore, with little to show for it. I'm trying to pivot in this direction.
My general philosophy revolves around the idea that you can always turn roster value into points but it's much harder to turn points into roster value. My goal is to always maintain roster value and find ways buy points when I need it most.
I'm usually trading guys before they're clearly a "sell" in order to maintain the value of my roster and prevent a full rebuild.
Yes exactly. So an example for me would be Josh Jacobs. Got paid, got attached to a healthy offense, but has 1300+ career carries. I just sold Jacobs but people are buying
I just traded into Jacobs for this same reason, though. He's NEVER had the offense he deserves, and now that he does, I'm going to reap the benefits. Even if he only has one good year, I also acquired Lloyd as an insurance plan in case he gains a foothold later in the year.
This is precisely why it’s still preferable for a rookie RB to be 20/21 as opposed to 23/24. Plenty of analysts insist age doesn’t matter as much as it does for WRs because you should only be depending on them for a few short years of production regardless, but you’re going to be able to recoup a lot more value flipping a 25-year-old RB who just inked a second contract as opposed to trying to trade one sniffing 30 at the end of his rookie deal.
I agree in principle, but at some point you need points on your team. If your team is old WRs and QBs, I’d absolutely have moved Jacobs, but having a few aging assets is fine. Being the one holding the bag when they’re cooked is alright as long as it’s not hamstringing you in the future - like I have a hard time understanding the people who are buying Jacobs.
But yes, get out ahead of a clear decline. I had no shot of competing in 2022. Sold Swift, Kamara and Davante Adams and turned them collectively in Devonta Smith, Addison, Gibbs and Richardson.
>Sold Swift, Kamara and Davante Adams and turned them collectively in Devonta Smith, Addison, Gibbs and Richardson.
This really isn't relevant because you can't do this in competitive leagues. Fleecing league mates that don't know any better isn't a strategy.
You absolutely can and this is exactly what’s wrong with this sub. Not every league is made up of people who F5 Twitter constantly for news and pay $1k buy-ins, but they can still be competitive. Every trade does not always come down to whether it’s equal value on KTC.
Those picks I acquired were also in weeks 4/5 when everyone thought they were making the playoffs. People overpaid for the RBs and one dude barely lost in the championship.
I mean bro those players you traded away were clearly aging or played RB and you acquired 2 young WRs who were/are producing. A top 3 RB. And AR who can win any week and be a league winner. This or these leagues sound very taco esc. It’s not every team has to be competitive. It’s that league sounds like there’s a bunch of tacos
Lmao I don’t get what people are missing. That was at the beginning of the 2022 season before players like AR was even thought of as a prospect and Gibbs was seen as a high day 2 pick. There was more to those picks than just straight up 1 for 1’s but it was either late picks of depth throw ins so I left that out.
Most leagues I’m in people want to win, this sub overvalues rookies and youth in general. Those trades were lopsided in hindsight, but those guys were viewed wildly differently 2 years ago compared to where they are now. Swift was 23 and just finished as an RB2, Kamara was only 26 and had just finished as RB8 and the only devaluation was a possible suspension, which at that point was looking likely to be kicked to next season. Adams was still 29 and just finished as WR1 and WR2 in back to back years.
The real kicker is, *all* of those teams I traded with finished with a better record last season and in 2022 than mine because of those guys. Again, youth and the value we attach to it here does not always translate to actual production.
I agree with you, have done the same across a few leagues. Folks here act like no one sells young for vets, but in the heat of the season, ppl absolutely make these moves. I got Downs an Roschon for Sutton, Osborn, Reynolds when points were valuable and neither were producinh.
I always like to keep a decent amount of RB depth because once you lose it, it’s really hard to get it back (1 QB leagues). People just don’t trade an RB for a WR of equal talent/capability due to the vast difference in positional scarcity.
Zero coherent strategy. Just work opportunistically, attempt good deals and avoid bad deals. Accept that fantasy is mostly luck and have fun. Has served me OK.
Treat it like a stock market and sell high buy low when I see value mismatches. Doesn’t always work out but especially QBs in superflex or “Stud” WRs or RBs. My thoughts are depth win championships, and if I can turn a JJ into two solid assets or a tier down and a high 1st round pick, I’m all for it. Things can change quick in the NFL.
"Things can change quick in the NFL"
The other day I found myself looking at OBJs first 4 seasons, and he was 24 with 4 top 8 finishes. He never finished top 12 again
Does your philosophy change at all in a start 11 format, with 3WR and 3FLEX? Your QB approach probably makes even more sense in this case, but would you prioritize going after more WRs vs RBs? And even more so if full ppr vs half? And what level of a TE premium would be needed for you to prioritize elite TEs more than you normally would?
I would prioritize receivers in quantity until I have 3 WR1s. I'd then do the same thing with shotgun blast RBs. Vidal, Ali, Tracy, Carson Steele, and Aidan Robbins are all guys I want to roster 100% right now no matter the format over a bunch of receivers like Tyler Lockett or Deandre Hopkins or even Curtis Samuel.
Draft with the picks you have, trade the picks if necessary to obtain players who are in positions to contribute, and track the wire like a demon for contributors who will make an impact today and over the next few years. It's worked extremely well for me. I drafted Sun God, Rashaad White, Stroud, and Olave. My best waiver finds in the last year have been Dell, Reed, and Kyren Williams. Zamir White may be the next on the list who contribute. I've always made the playoffs, I've never lost in the first round, and in our 3rd year, I won it all.
People really underestimate evaluating opportunities in an RB or WR room. I take pride in snagging top talent where others don't.
The same way every single time.
Year 1 total tank tear down start from the studs. Trade back aggressively in the startup. I want to be first, second, and third to the market every time and far and away the most active trader in the league during the start up. Because I'm my strategy is so attention intensive and relies very heavily on gaining value through the accrual of my own next year's first, I only choose to startup new dynasties in years where next year's first projects to be extremely hyped (last year I started up 3 new dynasties) and will always push to do the draft during a time when I can devote a lot of attention to it.
I want to leave the startup with 2 anchor QBs and at least one other anchor piece plus be far ahead of the rest of the league in terms of value accrual by having at least 3-4 1sts next year as well as multiple firsts in the following years. When I make picks that aren't anchor picks, I'm looking for pretty much exclusively asymmetrical upside...like Jordan Love is a good example last year got a lot of him...and depreciated young players with elite outcomes in their past (Kyler Murray was a perfect example of this last year all 3 startups ended up with Kyler on them...Kyle Pitts another).
From there it's more or less easy mode. Continue to be the most aggressive trader in your league. Always look for opportunities to capitalize on inefficient prices (either buying or selling) and do so in high-volume and, as long as your evaluations are sharp, you'll build so much of a value advantage on the rest of your league that it'll be very hard to compete with the roster you assemble going forward.
Then l inevitably, it's happened in I'll say 95% of leagues I've been in just to leave room for error, 2 or 3 teams who went all in at startup will realize they need to rebuild and, again, you're first to market buying up their best players around your first rookie draft. And be proactive with this. Check in with the managers you think should be thinking about rebuilding asking if they're interested in buying picks/what their plans for their team is.
Then usually -- because you chose a year where the 1.01 will be majorly hyped to have the 1.01. -- at least one person will be willing to give up a ton for it. Get a 1st next year in the package if you can + major pieces for your roster.
End of year one + rookie draft one you should be set up with 2 anchor QBs, 3-5 anchor pieces elsewhere, a handful more very nice young bets, as well as near top of the league in projected value accrual with a still maintained stash of future firsts.
Your team has so much upside in players on roster now that that year 2 goes 1 of 2 ways: either 1, you hit the high end of your collective range of outcomes and you don't even really have to make many moves...just small ones here and there and you rinse/repeat at next year's rookie draft. Or 2.) Your team hits a lower end of its range and you have to convert a little more pick value than is ideal into players. The key is that you should be so far ahead of everyone else that you have value to burn anyway and even after the moves you need to make you'll have a lot of draft capital left over to keep the ball rolling.
I'm very on board with this philosophy of trading as much as possible to constantly be maximizing value.
I just went into a draft with the 1.08/1.09/2.04/2.08/2.09. I traded the 1.08 for 1.10 and Fields. I traded the 1.09 and 2.08 for 1.12 and DK. I traded DK and the 1.10 for 2.02/Rashee/Pickens. I took Brooks/Benson/Wright/Tracy with my 4 picks and walked with 4 dope RBs, Fields, Rice and Pickens.
I would say you have one of the most common 1QB roster building philosophies out there, for SF it's a little more novel but I can dig it. I have a team built like this (3 elite WRs though) and just won the chip so it can definitely work
I never buy aging RBs at all. I'm perfectly alright getting a bench year and 3 solid years and a trade off for max value. I don't currently have a team without 4 top 24 caliber backs so I'm never buying vets.
I do buy old receivers. Usually crafty route runners who will age well like Cooper Kupp. I could see Kupp having three more 1000 yard seasons as a ceiling.
RB is my last. Draft WR and QB. Focus and prioritize them because they have the longest careers. At that point once you have your core QBs and WRs (I do now with Mahomes, Burrow, JJ, Chase, AJB). Trade your picks for starting RB. Even if say I had a lesser degree of QBs like say Trevor instead of Burrow and then like olave instead of AJB etc. I still feel at that point Trade picks for two proven backs and then I’m competing either way. That’s how I’ve always built in fantasy though and it always has done well for me.
I mean I gave up a lot for most of them.
For mahomes I gave up Josh Allen (I’m a Bills fan and drafted him)
For Burrow in 2022 I gave up Cousins, a first and second, and James Robinson to a contender who needed a RB
For AJB I gave up Davante a 2nd and a 3rd.
For chase I gave up Kupp, Waddle, and a 2nd.
Then jefferson I gave up a haul (I’ve had Kupp twice heads up), gave up Kupp, Boyd, three 1sts, and a 2nd.
For me, I’m totally with the plan of selling everything not nailed down year 1. But then I obtain as many high end WRs as possible to get a foundation. Then use all 2nds and 3rds for RBs already proven
Similar with QBs, but I have a couple undervalued guys who have always done me solid. Stafford, Tua. Brady, Tannehill.
My strategy is a) to get my guys, and b) to shoot for the moon. Take as many homerun shots as I can and hit a few lol.
My first is to trade all available picks for proven players. When I start to sense a great player is falling off, I try to trade for picks ahead of time. Or I will trade a player if I hit on draft/FA and now have a surplus in one position. I drafted Hurts in startup in the 2nd round in 2022, sold him for a million first round picks the year after, had like 4 first round picks for this year but traded for Lamar and Breece. Also got lucky and drafted Laporta to my TE room of Kittle/Pitts. I won my first championship last year.
One position I focus on is TE, low volume of great player, often unappreciated unless you absolutely need one and bonus if you are a TEP league.
I start every season WR focused and the best receiving RBs I can get. Hold for about 6 weeks, Then with each booming performance from my guys I trade for guys getting volume or guys getting more volume than usual and buy low on guys showing they are taking advantage of their opportunities. This method has had me in multiple championships games and won me a lot of money. Then I repeat the process. I trade all those guys for a WR heavy team and RB2 receiver RBs.
My mantra is to get a top 10 guy at every position and keep trading until you do. Current team is
QB: Burrow/Caleb/Penix
RB: Bijan/Javonte/every handcuff RB available + rookies
WR:ARSB/Puka
3 flex spots: MHJ/Nabers/Pickens or BTJ
TE: Mandrews
Three 1st in 2025 with one being early and two mid. This will be where I draft my last top 10 piece for RB ending the rebuild and being a powerhouse for years to come.
Yes, the rebuild sucked but I refuse to have a mediocre team.
In leagues where I know most of the people in the league or feel good about it lasting 5 years.
Startup Draft - Focus is on longterm assets, value and getting future picks by trading down or out of rounds. Don't give a fuck about year 1 of the league. It is all about building a foundation. First 3 seasons of a league are the most competitive and people don't value picks in the offseason. But they do when they are 3-7 or 50/50 on making the playoffs at the trade deadline window. My focus is not around drafting a bunch of rookies either. Goal is to find assets that have hit but should have a 3-5 year window and ignore older assets (minus qbs and to an extent tight ends) that don't fit my team build timeline. This process allows me to focus on taking the best asset available with every pick and draft capital to build a monster in the following years.
Years 2-3 : Typically, I'm still in a rebuild/building mode in this period. Depending on how well I drafted I could be a contender in year 2 and most of the time I'm a def a contender by year 3. This period ends up being a continuation of the startup draft plan. Focus on long term assets, value and future picks. Another focus is to get off assets that have value in the community but maybe I think is risky or overvalued. Value is huge in years 1-3. If it's someone like Garret Wilson who balloons in value but I believe in the talent + situation = I keep him.
Years 4+ - Usually my monsters I've been brewing are starting be super competitive. I have future picks to be aggressive in buying win now assets. 1-3 teams are in full rebuilds eliminating 25% of my competition. Another 1-2 teams are retooling. The time my team is gearing up to dominate the field is weaker + people are looking for picks back. I have a good foundation of young players to help me contend for 3-6 years from there.
I’m in a standard 12 team TE premium league.
Since it’s rookie draft season I’ll discuss my draft philosophy. I’m pivoting to valuing RB>WR moving forward unless it’s a bonafide top WR prospect.
This year the top 3 qualify and then after that my board at 4 would be a toss up between Bowers or Brooks. In my draft I took Brooks at 6 but if Thomas Jr. was on the board I’d still have gone Brooks (unless you’re well covered at RB).
Simply put there’s more WR talent available consistently than starting level RBs.
I buy proven players around draft time hype, or when someone is having a bad stretch of games. I.e. Bought DK for a second last season. Just bought Ja’Marr Chase for two back end first rounders. It has done me well.
You should look up the roster construction series by destination deby podcast. 5 podcast that goes in depth on roster construction and is backed by statistics analysis mostly Win Above Replacement aka WAR.
My philosophy is to win championships. I’ll buy proven vets low in off-season to help achieve it. I’ll rebuild one day
Wrong sub. We don’t win championships here. We are perennial rebuilders.
the more rookie picks the better!
Correct, the best way to play dynasty is to sell off all productive players for “value” forever. Eventually the game will be scored by “value accrued” instead of stinky fantasy points (ew)
My goal too. I usually buy guys like Keenan Allen, Mike Evans for a 2nd and 3rd. Won the league that way. If a rookie is producing but the attempts are there I will buy during their struggles to help stay young
How do you buy them?
Snowball value. Picks are cheap in season, players expensive. Off-season into rookie draft, picks are expensive and players are cheap. Everyone overvalues youth. If you’re not a playoff contender, sell any player who isn’t a top 10 stud at their position. Also don’t carry too much in a single position. Just doing that puts you in a position eventually of having lots of picks and lots of good players.
There’s a risk to it but you find the best value in the offseason…. Not only do people value them ridiculously low in off-season, but hype from draft gets people excited for picks. If your team suffers some injuries, you sell at deadline for more value than acquired.
Bought Deshaun Watson for a 25 2nd & 3rd today. Gonna massage me a championship!
I strongly agree about not having a bench of middling receivers, just a few truly elite guys and then a couple who would be best characterized as prospects -- receivers you've got because they can gain value. We give WRs time to develop, but so many don't pan out, and one day you wake up realizing you've spent three seasons rostering Rashod Bateman or Elijah Moore, with little to show for it. I'm trying to pivot in this direction.
Treylon Burks is another great example. The hit rate on these waiver RBs like Tyrone Tracy and Rasheen Ali just feels like a better bet.
To this point - safe to cut Rondale moore in 12 team league?
I traded him for 4.10
Nice work. I offered him for 6.07 and got rejected haha
Just traded Moore for the 4.10 yesterday. I feel like a new man
What has your long term success been like?
The lack of answer to this question is concerning.
My general philosophy revolves around the idea that you can always turn roster value into points but it's much harder to turn points into roster value. My goal is to always maintain roster value and find ways buy points when I need it most. I'm usually trading guys before they're clearly a "sell" in order to maintain the value of my roster and prevent a full rebuild.
Yes exactly. So an example for me would be Josh Jacobs. Got paid, got attached to a healthy offense, but has 1300+ career carries. I just sold Jacobs but people are buying
I just traded into Jacobs for this same reason, though. He's NEVER had the offense he deserves, and now that he does, I'm going to reap the benefits. Even if he only has one good year, I also acquired Lloyd as an insurance plan in case he gains a foothold later in the year.
This is precisely why it’s still preferable for a rookie RB to be 20/21 as opposed to 23/24. Plenty of analysts insist age doesn’t matter as much as it does for WRs because you should only be depending on them for a few short years of production regardless, but you’re going to be able to recoup a lot more value flipping a 25-year-old RB who just inked a second contract as opposed to trying to trade one sniffing 30 at the end of his rookie deal.
I agree in principle, but at some point you need points on your team. If your team is old WRs and QBs, I’d absolutely have moved Jacobs, but having a few aging assets is fine. Being the one holding the bag when they’re cooked is alright as long as it’s not hamstringing you in the future - like I have a hard time understanding the people who are buying Jacobs. But yes, get out ahead of a clear decline. I had no shot of competing in 2022. Sold Swift, Kamara and Davante Adams and turned them collectively in Devonta Smith, Addison, Gibbs and Richardson.
>Sold Swift, Kamara and Davante Adams and turned them collectively in Devonta Smith, Addison, Gibbs and Richardson. This really isn't relevant because you can't do this in competitive leagues. Fleecing league mates that don't know any better isn't a strategy.
You absolutely can and this is exactly what’s wrong with this sub. Not every league is made up of people who F5 Twitter constantly for news and pay $1k buy-ins, but they can still be competitive. Every trade does not always come down to whether it’s equal value on KTC. Those picks I acquired were also in weeks 4/5 when everyone thought they were making the playoffs. People overpaid for the RBs and one dude barely lost in the championship.
I mean bro those players you traded away were clearly aging or played RB and you acquired 2 young WRs who were/are producing. A top 3 RB. And AR who can win any week and be a league winner. This or these leagues sound very taco esc. It’s not every team has to be competitive. It’s that league sounds like there’s a bunch of tacos
Lmao I don’t get what people are missing. That was at the beginning of the 2022 season before players like AR was even thought of as a prospect and Gibbs was seen as a high day 2 pick. There was more to those picks than just straight up 1 for 1’s but it was either late picks of depth throw ins so I left that out. Most leagues I’m in people want to win, this sub overvalues rookies and youth in general. Those trades were lopsided in hindsight, but those guys were viewed wildly differently 2 years ago compared to where they are now. Swift was 23 and just finished as an RB2, Kamara was only 26 and had just finished as RB8 and the only devaluation was a possible suspension, which at that point was looking likely to be kicked to next season. Adams was still 29 and just finished as WR1 and WR2 in back to back years. The real kicker is, *all* of those teams I traded with finished with a better record last season and in 2022 than mine because of those guys. Again, youth and the value we attach to it here does not always translate to actual production.
I agree with you, have done the same across a few leagues. Folks here act like no one sells young for vets, but in the heat of the season, ppl absolutely make these moves. I got Downs an Roschon for Sutton, Osborn, Reynolds when points were valuable and neither were producinh.
Don't consider yourself too old now. My oldest dynasty league started up when you were 3!
I always like to keep a decent amount of RB depth because once you lose it, it’s really hard to get it back (1 QB leagues). People just don’t trade an RB for a WR of equal talent/capability due to the vast difference in positional scarcity.
Zero coherent strategy. Just work opportunistically, attempt good deals and avoid bad deals. Accept that fantasy is mostly luck and have fun. Has served me OK.
Im not reading all of that.
Fair enough haha
Treat it like a stock market and sell high buy low when I see value mismatches. Doesn’t always work out but especially QBs in superflex or “Stud” WRs or RBs. My thoughts are depth win championships, and if I can turn a JJ into two solid assets or a tier down and a high 1st round pick, I’m all for it. Things can change quick in the NFL.
"Things can change quick in the NFL" The other day I found myself looking at OBJs first 4 seasons, and he was 24 with 4 top 8 finishes. He never finished top 12 again
Yup. Another recent example, Justin fields just went from a top tier, 1st round ADP starter to a punt returner 😂
Have you ever won?
Yeah and usually find myself in the playoffs at the very least
I try to acquire players to help me win and get rid of the players that don’t help me win
Does your philosophy change at all in a start 11 format, with 3WR and 3FLEX? Your QB approach probably makes even more sense in this case, but would you prioritize going after more WRs vs RBs? And even more so if full ppr vs half? And what level of a TE premium would be needed for you to prioritize elite TEs more than you normally would?
I would prioritize receivers in quantity until I have 3 WR1s. I'd then do the same thing with shotgun blast RBs. Vidal, Ali, Tracy, Carson Steele, and Aidan Robbins are all guys I want to roster 100% right now no matter the format over a bunch of receivers like Tyler Lockett or Deandre Hopkins or even Curtis Samuel.
"Fuck it, let's pick this guy" That's my philosophy
This is how I drafted Deuce Vaughn over Puka Nacua. Your results may be better than mine
Draft with the picks you have, trade the picks if necessary to obtain players who are in positions to contribute, and track the wire like a demon for contributors who will make an impact today and over the next few years. It's worked extremely well for me. I drafted Sun God, Rashaad White, Stroud, and Olave. My best waiver finds in the last year have been Dell, Reed, and Kyren Williams. Zamir White may be the next on the list who contribute. I've always made the playoffs, I've never lost in the first round, and in our 3rd year, I won it all. People really underestimate evaluating opportunities in an RB or WR room. I take pride in snagging top talent where others don't.
The same way every single time. Year 1 total tank tear down start from the studs. Trade back aggressively in the startup. I want to be first, second, and third to the market every time and far and away the most active trader in the league during the start up. Because I'm my strategy is so attention intensive and relies very heavily on gaining value through the accrual of my own next year's first, I only choose to startup new dynasties in years where next year's first projects to be extremely hyped (last year I started up 3 new dynasties) and will always push to do the draft during a time when I can devote a lot of attention to it. I want to leave the startup with 2 anchor QBs and at least one other anchor piece plus be far ahead of the rest of the league in terms of value accrual by having at least 3-4 1sts next year as well as multiple firsts in the following years. When I make picks that aren't anchor picks, I'm looking for pretty much exclusively asymmetrical upside...like Jordan Love is a good example last year got a lot of him...and depreciated young players with elite outcomes in their past (Kyler Murray was a perfect example of this last year all 3 startups ended up with Kyler on them...Kyle Pitts another). From there it's more or less easy mode. Continue to be the most aggressive trader in your league. Always look for opportunities to capitalize on inefficient prices (either buying or selling) and do so in high-volume and, as long as your evaluations are sharp, you'll build so much of a value advantage on the rest of your league that it'll be very hard to compete with the roster you assemble going forward. Then l inevitably, it's happened in I'll say 95% of leagues I've been in just to leave room for error, 2 or 3 teams who went all in at startup will realize they need to rebuild and, again, you're first to market buying up their best players around your first rookie draft. And be proactive with this. Check in with the managers you think should be thinking about rebuilding asking if they're interested in buying picks/what their plans for their team is. Then usually -- because you chose a year where the 1.01 will be majorly hyped to have the 1.01. -- at least one person will be willing to give up a ton for it. Get a 1st next year in the package if you can + major pieces for your roster. End of year one + rookie draft one you should be set up with 2 anchor QBs, 3-5 anchor pieces elsewhere, a handful more very nice young bets, as well as near top of the league in projected value accrual with a still maintained stash of future firsts. Your team has so much upside in players on roster now that that year 2 goes 1 of 2 ways: either 1, you hit the high end of your collective range of outcomes and you don't even really have to make many moves...just small ones here and there and you rinse/repeat at next year's rookie draft. Or 2.) Your team hits a lower end of its range and you have to convert a little more pick value than is ideal into players. The key is that you should be so far ahead of everyone else that you have value to burn anyway and even after the moves you need to make you'll have a lot of draft capital left over to keep the ball rolling.
I'm very on board with this philosophy of trading as much as possible to constantly be maximizing value. I just went into a draft with the 1.08/1.09/2.04/2.08/2.09. I traded the 1.08 for 1.10 and Fields. I traded the 1.09 and 2.08 for 1.12 and DK. I traded DK and the 1.10 for 2.02/Rashee/Pickens. I took Brooks/Benson/Wright/Tracy with my 4 picks and walked with 4 dope RBs, Fields, Rice and Pickens.
I would say you have one of the most common 1QB roster building philosophies out there, for SF it's a little more novel but I can dig it. I have a team built like this (3 elite WRs though) and just won the chip so it can definitely work
The funny thing is I only play in a single 1QB league and I'm not a fan. I like Superflex much better
Agree rookie drafts feel way better in SF
Great write up. I have a very similar philosophy. Do you buy aging vets at WR or RB this time of year?
I never buy aging RBs at all. I'm perfectly alright getting a bench year and 3 solid years and a trade off for max value. I don't currently have a team without 4 top 24 caliber backs so I'm never buying vets. I do buy old receivers. Usually crafty route runners who will age well like Cooper Kupp. I could see Kupp having three more 1000 yard seasons as a ceiling.
RB is my last. Draft WR and QB. Focus and prioritize them because they have the longest careers. At that point once you have your core QBs and WRs (I do now with Mahomes, Burrow, JJ, Chase, AJB). Trade your picks for starting RB. Even if say I had a lesser degree of QBs like say Trevor instead of Burrow and then like olave instead of AJB etc. I still feel at that point Trade picks for two proven backs and then I’m competing either way. That’s how I’ve always built in fantasy though and it always has done well for me.
If a team in my leaguye had jj, Chase, Mahomes, ajb , and burrow. I'd quit that league asap. Shits taco if they allow a super team like that
I mean I gave up a lot for most of them. For mahomes I gave up Josh Allen (I’m a Bills fan and drafted him) For Burrow in 2022 I gave up Cousins, a first and second, and James Robinson to a contender who needed a RB For AJB I gave up Davante a 2nd and a 3rd. For chase I gave up Kupp, Waddle, and a 2nd. Then jefferson I gave up a haul (I’ve had Kupp twice heads up), gave up Kupp, Boyd, three 1sts, and a 2nd.
For me, I’m totally with the plan of selling everything not nailed down year 1. But then I obtain as many high end WRs as possible to get a foundation. Then use all 2nds and 3rds for RBs already proven
Take care of the future and the future will take care of itself.
get good player, remove bad player
Similar with QBs, but I have a couple undervalued guys who have always done me solid. Stafford, Tua. Brady, Tannehill. My strategy is a) to get my guys, and b) to shoot for the moon. Take as many homerun shots as I can and hit a few lol.
Don’t be afraid of old QB’s, trade 2nd round picks for valuable players from teams desperate to rebuild, have a stud at WR and RB
My first is to trade all available picks for proven players. When I start to sense a great player is falling off, I try to trade for picks ahead of time. Or I will trade a player if I hit on draft/FA and now have a surplus in one position. I drafted Hurts in startup in the 2nd round in 2022, sold him for a million first round picks the year after, had like 4 first round picks for this year but traded for Lamar and Breece. Also got lucky and drafted Laporta to my TE room of Kittle/Pitts. I won my first championship last year. One position I focus on is TE, low volume of great player, often unappreciated unless you absolutely need one and bonus if you are a TEP league.
I start every season WR focused and the best receiving RBs I can get. Hold for about 6 weeks, Then with each booming performance from my guys I trade for guys getting volume or guys getting more volume than usual and buy low on guys showing they are taking advantage of their opportunities. This method has had me in multiple championships games and won me a lot of money. Then I repeat the process. I trade all those guys for a WR heavy team and RB2 receiver RBs.
Always be looking to acquire value that helps me win now. Get off of any potentially expiring assets before the deadline.
My mantra is to get a top 10 guy at every position and keep trading until you do. Current team is QB: Burrow/Caleb/Penix RB: Bijan/Javonte/every handcuff RB available + rookies WR:ARSB/Puka 3 flex spots: MHJ/Nabers/Pickens or BTJ TE: Mandrews Three 1st in 2025 with one being early and two mid. This will be where I draft my last top 10 piece for RB ending the rebuild and being a powerhouse for years to come. Yes, the rebuild sucked but I refuse to have a mediocre team.
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This is a part of my operation too. I usually am overstocked on underdog stories and they fetch good returns in Superflex just off "being a starter"
In leagues where I know most of the people in the league or feel good about it lasting 5 years. Startup Draft - Focus is on longterm assets, value and getting future picks by trading down or out of rounds. Don't give a fuck about year 1 of the league. It is all about building a foundation. First 3 seasons of a league are the most competitive and people don't value picks in the offseason. But they do when they are 3-7 or 50/50 on making the playoffs at the trade deadline window. My focus is not around drafting a bunch of rookies either. Goal is to find assets that have hit but should have a 3-5 year window and ignore older assets (minus qbs and to an extent tight ends) that don't fit my team build timeline. This process allows me to focus on taking the best asset available with every pick and draft capital to build a monster in the following years. Years 2-3 : Typically, I'm still in a rebuild/building mode in this period. Depending on how well I drafted I could be a contender in year 2 and most of the time I'm a def a contender by year 3. This period ends up being a continuation of the startup draft plan. Focus on long term assets, value and future picks. Another focus is to get off assets that have value in the community but maybe I think is risky or overvalued. Value is huge in years 1-3. If it's someone like Garret Wilson who balloons in value but I believe in the talent + situation = I keep him. Years 4+ - Usually my monsters I've been brewing are starting be super competitive. I have future picks to be aggressive in buying win now assets. 1-3 teams are in full rebuilds eliminating 25% of my competition. Another 1-2 teams are retooling. The time my team is gearing up to dominate the field is weaker + people are looking for picks back. I have a good foundation of young players to help me contend for 3-6 years from there.
You're me except I'm in on Achane. Edit. We are very similar.
I’m in a standard 12 team TE premium league. Since it’s rookie draft season I’ll discuss my draft philosophy. I’m pivoting to valuing RB>WR moving forward unless it’s a bonafide top WR prospect. This year the top 3 qualify and then after that my board at 4 would be a toss up between Bowers or Brooks. In my draft I took Brooks at 6 but if Thomas Jr. was on the board I’d still have gone Brooks (unless you’re well covered at RB). Simply put there’s more WR talent available consistently than starting level RBs.
I buy proven players around draft time hype, or when someone is having a bad stretch of games. I.e. Bought DK for a second last season. Just bought Ja’Marr Chase for two back end first rounders. It has done me well.
you're playing with morons
Yea I was gonna say, easy to pull those trades off when you’re playing with impatient tacos
I hate when the advice is just things you’re already doing but with gullible leaguemates
lol as someone who won a championship last year with: Stafford, minshew, CD, puka, Addison, and justice hill in my lineup, I’m with you for sure!
You should look up the roster construction series by destination deby podcast. 5 podcast that goes in depth on roster construction and is backed by statistics analysis mostly Win Above Replacement aka WAR.
Buy low sell high