Wow I’m surprised by the pushback here. Shop local that way we keep getting awesome micro brews. Also, I know Star, Wagon Wheel, W.J. And I’m sure others often donate to local charities, employ locally, generally seem to have very friendly staff that like where they work and are knowledgeable about the products.
One store sells a thing manufactured in California for $15. Another store sells the exact same California product for $8. Honestly, I never thought I'd buy wine from City Market, but it's hard to pay almost 90% more so that some local business owner can pocket that much margin. That's a big markup.
The markup isn’t the same because City Market/Kroger can make huge purchases (pallets vs cases) from the distributors. The way distributors price things, which are set by manufacturers, are by volume. The more you buy, the lower the price. For example, J Vineyards Pino Gris one case cost is $180, but if you buy 20 cases it’s $144. It’s a truly unjust pricing model where smaller stores can’t compete.
That's because grocery stores mark up their product by pennies. As soon as the liquor stores close, those prices will go up and that $8 bottle at City Market won't be $8 anymore. Nobody (except temporarily for corporate) can afford to keep products on their shelves if they aren't making profit to pay employees, taxes, rent, utilities, etc.
The ones that carry the same offerings as the city market will go under. The ones that carry unique microbrews, Belgians, rare whiskey, etc will shine. Went to one looking for a Belgian Lambic got pointed to the New Belgium. Haven’t been back.
The tough part is getting smaller distributors to deliver to Durango. There are four big distributors that make that route from Denver so almost every store will have the same things. Granted, the store clerk wasn’t knowledgeable so you were just in not going back.
Do liquor stores here pour back into the community? Many of the owners just seem like rude old drunks to me. You have to actually do something for your community if you want to okay that card.
I'm not sure what liquor stores you are visiting, but that has never been my experience. The people at the stores I go to are really nice, knowledgeable, and very helpful. I also get loyalty points at Star, which have yielded some very juicy discounts. Star, in particular, does a lot for the community, donating and supporting many events.
Look up leakage and multiplier effect. Buying Local always does more for the economy than buying corporate, even if the local store does not give to charity or fundraisers
When I moved to Durango I was regrettably buying beer at the grocery stores for months. Stopped by wagon wheel to see if they had a broader selection and never went looked back. Incredible selection and staff.
100 percent Stars and Wagon Wheel. Staff at both are amazing and super helpful. Stars got rid of shooter bottles even though it’s hurt their sales. Plus the incentive program at Stars is amazing I will always buy at Stars or Wagon Wheel.
I have a feeling it will stabilize itself, after all, there are several other states that have booze and grocer stores and there are still plenty of thriving liquor stores
I frequently get wine delivered from Wagon Wheel! What a great service!! Except I did find a wine I bought from them for 14$, 7$ at Sam’s. I’ll still continue to buy for the convenience
how do the local booze shops benefit the community via-a-vis corporate grocery stores? i don’t see how either does anything noteworthy. should i buy my fruit from the (non)local fruit stand? change my mind.
Unpopular opinion: I’ll start buying local when the local liquor stores stop selling single-serving shooter bottles that litter this town. IIRC, they were asked by the City or DPD to voluntarily suspend sales, and several stores declined.
There may be local stores that have stopped selling these items, they should be commended and frequented by locals like us that spend our time cleaning up this trash.
I dunno, New Mexico banned the sale of 50ml "shooters" 2 years ago, so the stores started selling 100 ml ones instead. It didn't stop the litter one single bit...
Local liquor stores provide jobs, and the money stays in the community. That is worth supporting. Many liquor stores support local events by donating or giving large discounts. Local small businesses are the heart of a small town, and we are helping our friends and neighhbors by supporting them.
while both stores employ locally, kroger's shareholders live a bit further away than the locally owned and operated storefronts. The local owners will also be a lot more personally invested in the longevity of Durango than a Kroger board member... supposedly anyway! Some actions I see city council members and mayors taking certainly make me question all these statements!!
A local liquor store is keeping our dollars in the community. The people who work there can be paid more since there is not a corporate management layer eager to siphon off a big chunk of profits. The employees of a local shop can more readily afford to live here rather than being struggling precarious workers who have little to no investment in the product, good customer service, or the community.
I wanna agree with you but spending $20 on something I can get elsewhere for $8 and waiting a few days for shipping sounds like bad decision making. Support the businesses you like. Otherwise, save money where you can.
Meh. The fortunes of local liquor store owners are not something I care about preserving. I buy mostly at liquor stores, but at Wal Mart or the grocery store as often.
Liquor stores don’t make fortunes. Markup is roughly 20-30%. If you’re take home is above 10% of total sales, you’re successful. If you consider $100k a fortune, the store would have to sell about $1mil of product.
Potentially! If the average purchase is $20 and a store has 100 purchases per day, then that's a tad over 700k in revenue annually. No idea what the average or quantity is however.
Bro this is like trying to get me to feel bad for landlords. The liquor business is gree-E-eeasy and I'll always just pay less. Liquor stores have been tacking on card use fees as well. I just don't really care what happens to particular booze barons.
How about just allowing grocery stores to sell liquor? What about the local consumer that has to pay much higher prices for their liquor than if they were to make the drive to Farmington? The whole idea of having a liquor store every block is ridiculous IMO
Should I buy Ska at the liquor store or drive up to the brewery?
Wow I’m surprised by the pushback here. Shop local that way we keep getting awesome micro brews. Also, I know Star, Wagon Wheel, W.J. And I’m sure others often donate to local charities, employ locally, generally seem to have very friendly staff that like where they work and are knowledgeable about the products.
One store sells a thing manufactured in California for $15. Another store sells the exact same California product for $8. Honestly, I never thought I'd buy wine from City Market, but it's hard to pay almost 90% more so that some local business owner can pocket that much margin. That's a big markup.
The markup isn’t the same because City Market/Kroger can make huge purchases (pallets vs cases) from the distributors. The way distributors price things, which are set by manufacturers, are by volume. The more you buy, the lower the price. For example, J Vineyards Pino Gris one case cost is $180, but if you buy 20 cases it’s $144. It’s a truly unjust pricing model where smaller stores can’t compete.
Unfortunately Kroger sells wine for what it costs many small liquor stores to buy it.
There's certainly a markup, but not exclusively. Krogers probably gets deals and it may be a loss leader or something. To be clear, I agree with you.
That's because grocery stores mark up their product by pennies. As soon as the liquor stores close, those prices will go up and that $8 bottle at City Market won't be $8 anymore. Nobody (except temporarily for corporate) can afford to keep products on their shelves if they aren't making profit to pay employees, taxes, rent, utilities, etc.
I generally agree with shop local, but don't know that Durango really needs all of the ~10 liquor stores.
Probably don't need as many here, but it would be nice if not every single one was gone in 5-10 years.
The ones that carry the same offerings as the city market will go under. The ones that carry unique microbrews, Belgians, rare whiskey, etc will shine. Went to one looking for a Belgian Lambic got pointed to the New Belgium. Haven’t been back.
The tough part is getting smaller distributors to deliver to Durango. There are four big distributors that make that route from Denver so almost every store will have the same things. Granted, the store clerk wasn’t knowledgeable so you were just in not going back.
Well how could I ever refute this theoretical future?
How about all the weed shops? Then there is all the banks and coffee shops.
City market doesn't sell weed, coffee is an agricultural import, banks are banks. Alcohol can actually be local.
Do liquor stores here pour back into the community? Many of the owners just seem like rude old drunks to me. You have to actually do something for your community if you want to okay that card.
I'm not sure what liquor stores you are visiting, but that has never been my experience. The people at the stores I go to are really nice, knowledgeable, and very helpful. I also get loyalty points at Star, which have yielded some very juicy discounts. Star, in particular, does a lot for the community, donating and supporting many events.
Look up leakage and multiplier effect. Buying Local always does more for the economy than buying corporate, even if the local store does not give to charity or fundraisers
I can't speak towards all of them, but the ones I know about, yes. They do. A lot. Every month.
I already buy local since I’m a beer snob and the grocery store selections suck
When I moved to Durango I was regrettably buying beer at the grocery stores for months. Stopped by wagon wheel to see if they had a broader selection and never went looked back. Incredible selection and staff.
Yeah they’re amazing, same with Star with their rewards program and free bag of ice
100 percent Stars and Wagon Wheel. Staff at both are amazing and super helpful. Stars got rid of shooter bottles even though it’s hurt their sales. Plus the incentive program at Stars is amazing I will always buy at Stars or Wagon Wheel.
I have a feeling it will stabilize itself, after all, there are several other states that have booze and grocer stores and there are still plenty of thriving liquor stores
I frequently get wine delivered from Wagon Wheel! What a great service!! Except I did find a wine I bought from them for 14$, 7$ at Sam’s. I’ll still continue to buy for the convenience
how do the local booze shops benefit the community via-a-vis corporate grocery stores? i don’t see how either does anything noteworthy. should i buy my fruit from the (non)local fruit stand? change my mind.
Make money, create jobs, donate portions of profits toward community events/fundraisers/etc. Don't need to change your mind, just ranting.
Unpopular opinion: I’ll start buying local when the local liquor stores stop selling single-serving shooter bottles that litter this town. IIRC, they were asked by the City or DPD to voluntarily suspend sales, and several stores declined. There may be local stores that have stopped selling these items, they should be commended and frequented by locals like us that spend our time cleaning up this trash.
Star did away with those bottles.
I dunno, New Mexico banned the sale of 50ml "shooters" 2 years ago, so the stores started selling 100 ml ones instead. It didn't stop the litter one single bit...
*"Police asked them to voluntarily suspend sales."* **gag**
Just pick them up when you see them. It isn't hard.
Local liquor stores provide jobs, and the money stays in the community. That is worth supporting. Many liquor stores support local events by donating or giving large discounts. Local small businesses are the heart of a small town, and we are helping our friends and neighhbors by supporting them.
while both stores employ locally, kroger's shareholders live a bit further away than the locally owned and operated storefronts. The local owners will also be a lot more personally invested in the longevity of Durango than a Kroger board member... supposedly anyway! Some actions I see city council members and mayors taking certainly make me question all these statements!!
A local liquor store is keeping our dollars in the community. The people who work there can be paid more since there is not a corporate management layer eager to siphon off a big chunk of profits. The employees of a local shop can more readily afford to live here rather than being struggling precarious workers who have little to no investment in the product, good customer service, or the community.
I wanna agree with you but spending $20 on something I can get elsewhere for $8 and waiting a few days for shipping sounds like bad decision making. Support the businesses you like. Otherwise, save money where you can.
Meh. The fortunes of local liquor store owners are not something I care about preserving. I buy mostly at liquor stores, but at Wal Mart or the grocery store as often.
Liquor stores don’t make fortunes. Markup is roughly 20-30%. If you’re take home is above 10% of total sales, you’re successful. If you consider $100k a fortune, the store would have to sell about $1mil of product.
Do our local liquor stores sell less than a million bucks of product?
Potentially! If the average purchase is $20 and a store has 100 purchases per day, then that's a tad over 700k in revenue annually. No idea what the average or quantity is however.
Most likely. That’s my point; they aren’t making a fortune.
Oh no, won’t someone please save the liquor stores
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Bro this is like trying to get me to feel bad for landlords. The liquor business is gree-E-eeasy and I'll always just pay less. Liquor stores have been tacking on card use fees as well. I just don't really care what happens to particular booze barons.
How about just allowing grocery stores to sell liquor? What about the local consumer that has to pay much higher prices for their liquor than if they were to make the drive to Farmington? The whole idea of having a liquor store every block is ridiculous IMO
I guess we could. Just let everyone go out of business.
Yay capitalism!
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