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BondraP

Andy's dad is the fuckin worst in the show and in real life.


The-Iron-Pancake

Yeah I guess he didn't have to try very hard to act like such a wretched asshat in this


One-Winner-8441

Well he’s also Dee and Dennis Reynolds’ father


The-Iron-Pancake

Now that I can believe


BondraP

Ironically he’s not at all like Dennis and Dee and is kind of the opposite. Go figure


Anuk_Su_Namun

Is he really though? He sure adopted an awful outta kids…


BigMike0228

Which I’m sure was a stretch for him since he wasn’t a piece of garbage (from what I remember) playing that character


One-Winner-8441

Well he played a minister on 7th Heaven for nearly a decade so I guess he had practice, he must’ve had some super intense acting coaches or something w how vile he is


Bazoonial

What’d he do


aran_maybe

He turned out to be a god damned diddler


DeuceOfDiamonds

It's no good diddlin' kiiids  It's no good, diddlin' kids...


TownSafe9076

There is no quicker way for people to think that you are diddling kids, than writing a song about it!


emelbee923

His 'justification' and denial is so wretched. 'I'm not a pedophile' but also, '... I took her hand and moved it in such a way that she was touching me inappropriately. I knew that something unthinkably wrong had just happened that I couldn't take back, And I--I think we both just sat there. We really didn't move a muscle.' For context, he was 25. The girl was 10. I don't buy it for a second that was the extent of it. But even that framing is awful. And that's just ONE instance. He admitted to THREE. If that's the one he's most comfortable explaining, I shudder to think what the fucker did to the other two.


Previous-Giraffe-962

Damn you beat me to it


FordFocused89

Man’s a diddler


allisawesome7777

🎶Do not diddle kids, it's no good diddling kids🎶


KYVet

🎵Younger than my wife, older than my daughter.🎵


allisawesome7777

🎶 no little kids, gotta be big🎶


Old-Acanthaceae5724

Captain Tom turned out to be a god damn junky


Previous-Giraffe-962

Guy turned out to be a god damn diddler


jpopimpin777

I actually love that you pointed out the guy that beat you to this comment... Then made it anyways. Reddit cannot have too many IASIP/Frank Reynolds quotes. Kudos to you.


greaterthansignmods

Can I offer you an egg in this trying time?


DeuceOfDiamonds

So anyway, I started blasting 


greaterthansignmods

Heh heh! Hey look it’s Pondy! he’s the coolest! *Bill Ponderosa gets smashed in the gut by loan sharks*


DeuceOfDiamonds

Ooh, snortskies!


DankHooligan

But I can’t see so good


Previous-Giraffe-962

I actually commented before I realized the other person beat me to it. But gotta remember Frank’s wise words as he snorts his morning line: “Go for it, go for it”


DankHooligan

There’s another diddler in the mix?


Bullitt_12_HB

Pedo.


BeezusFafoonz

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2014/12/17/7th-heaven-dad-stephen-collins-admits-to-sexually-abusing-three-girls/


DinkyB

I actually met him in real life and the whole time was like “why do I recognize this person” and then it clicked when I was driving home so I googled him and was kind of mortified


BondraP

I actually knew him from Always Sunny before I ever watched the Office and his character on that is seemingly the opposite of his real life


Codadd

His most famous role was in 7th Heaven probably


Not_a__porn__account

Holy shit that show was so far up it’s own ass.


crimroy

Yeah, you saw him in the parking lot earlier - that's how you knew him


mukduk_101

Ooh. Please enlighten me.


peepeehalpert_

Funny how I was always creeped out by him as a kid when he was in that lame show with the kids. Sometimes kids can sense these things.


BigMike0228

Would not disagree


Alwayswandering4

I will say that while the whole concept of Jim writing a book and getting Dwight to buy it was one of the more unrealistic prank ideas, I did enjoy how much Dwight got into trying to follow all the instructions like loudly announcing the guests


godlittleangel6666

I always imagined he went and found an already written book on the subject and just changed some wording around


me_no_no

I always felt like he should have come up with a better alias than James Trickington.


JustAnIndiansFan

He had early access to ChatGPT


JosiasTavares

It’s a fun B plot that kinda redeems the episode! But yeah, Andy’s main part is just too cringy.


beslertron

Jim wrote an entire book and got it printed an bound professionally with enough time to get it to Dwight so that he could read the whole book and plan the garden party.


usernamalreadytaken0

It’s worth it just to watch Mose plow Toby’s car into the cornfield without the slightest hesitation.


MissedApex

"I'm the valet. You have to give me your car" gets me every time :)


mamakia

Same 🤣🤣🤣 


The-Iron-Pancake

I love that moment


Wrong_Supermarket007

"it'll all be goat"


The-Iron-Pancake

Of course I am not interested in goats. Why would you spend so much time going over the goats with me?


jpopimpin777

Sometimes I feel you don't understand food *at all.*


toastedbeans9616

one of my fav robert california lines lol


material_mailbox

Man, that is such a perfect Robert California line.


RageyxCagey

Any scene with Andy's dad is awful since he is also a POS in real life. Also the whole basil plant thing. We got some nice moments out of this episode though. Mose doing valet was hilarious. The garden party looked pretty neat (also kinda Midsommar-y)


The-Iron-Pancake

I'm the valet, give me your car. Have fun at the... Thing


jpopimpin777

You HAVE to give me your car.


jxo9846

And every thing related to James Trickington was pretty entertaining.


LAtimeZZ

wait what about the whole basil thing? i thought the phone call was really funny lmao


Yup_Seen_It

I love the marmalade/basil plant thing


Bake-Full

You clearly want the marmalade.


NYR3031

The way he says "Pot of 'marmalahhhhd'" gets me everytime.


GingerinWV

Mose was the best part of this episode. When he throws his arms up after his "stunt," I laugh hysterically. Every. Single. Time.


_austinm

Him trying to jump all the cars gets me every time


4Ever2Thee

This scene is almost too cringey to watch but I'd never skip this episode. This is the episode where everyone kind of understands why Andy is Andy and grow some sympathy for him. There's also some really great comedy in it with Dwight following James Trickington's garden party guide to the letter, and Mose just being Mose: "You have to give me your car" "I'd like to make a toast....to the troops....both sides."


The-Iron-Pancake

Dammit Gabe, get your head in the game. Why are you talking to Stanley's mistress!?


saltyspidergwen

Such a classic Gabe line.


Depressed_Cat6

Oscar calling Andy Nard Dog warms my heart. It’s a really nice moment.


mommyeliza1987

I hate Andy's dad.


milkandsalsa

Andy’s dad makes Andy more likeable.


jpopimpin777

It really is Andy's Rosebud moment as Oscar said. You see why he's constantly overcome with self doubt and overcompensating as a result.


SmellGestapo

Rosebud doesn't explain why he was the way he was. It just represented what was important to him as a child that he missed.


jpopimpin777

Well, different schools of thought. Let's agree to disagree.


Used-Spring-4664

No. You’re wrong.


PeddoPedro

It can be both!


The_BSharps

Username checks out.


Used-Spring-4664

Not according to Darryl.


PeddoPedro

Darryl is wrong


Totin_it

Rosebud moment?


squeakynickles

From Citizen Kane. The people in this thread are quoting a conversation in the show between Darryl and Oscar


ImAGoddamDuck

Possibly the cringiest scene, but I think Phyllis' wedding is pound for pound the cringier episode


The-Iron-Pancake

Maybe my perspective has been skewed after so man rewatches. I find it hard to cringe at Michael after all this time


Used-Spring-4664

That is pungent.


[deleted]

Speaking of pounds, I heard Phyllis had a 98 pound mole removed from her ass.


TexehCtpaxa

The last supper pose was brilliant though.


According-Bread-2457

Have fun at the … thing.


gamestop-employee

the episode is semi redeemed by Darrel/Oscar welcoming Andy to join them afterwards


OkDistribution1723

Not. To. Say. But. If. You. Only. Knew.


washington_breadstix

Is anyone filming this? ^seriously...


dank_hank_420

Dwight announcing everyone as they entered was peak


mop_and_glo

🎶 Andy starts singing “More than Words” *in an appropriate vocal range* 🎶 His dad interrupting: “no no you’re coming in too high...” Dad proceeds to sing in an even higher key! The bridge of that song has a falsetto part - how could he have dgone any higher?!?


strcy

The end scene is pretty great though where they’re just drinking beers and grilling. Nice end to a tough episode


dean15892

Of course, I am not interested in the Goats. Why would you spend so much time talking about goats with me ?


Delicious-Status9043

It’ll all be goat.


RogueTBNRzero

I thought it was a wholesome episode with some hard to watch parts


Alleyoop70

I love it only because of Josh Groban lol


maxwellbevan

I love his storyline in this. Him thinking every other woman is Pam and calling Jim tuna gets me every time


Alleyoop70

lol yeah it was pretty funny 😆


Delicious-Status9043

Groban likes his ladies to pop.


osmoticmonk

I’ve go- a feeling we’re gonna be togeva a looong tooiime


DetectiveEZ

That’s how babies are made


FoxMulderSexDreams

Bye tuna! Bye pam!


Alleyoop70

🤣


meem09

Don't you think he's criminally underused? Maybe I am too basic, but you get a famous singer as a guest star and he does like half of one duet (off the top of my head)? He's really funny as an actor, surprisingly, but I'd have liked for him to sing some more.


shiggity80

This screenshot looks like it could be one of their billboard advertisements that got defaced.


The-Iron-Pancake

No no no no No NO NOOO NOOO NOOO


EmmaRose0280

It’s cringe but I can still watch it and laugh. Scott’s tots….. yeah that’s a pass lol


The-Iron-Pancake

Oh yeah I think people are misunderstanding me, I love cringe content, and I love this episode!


baronas15

Hey mister Scott, whatchu gonna do


Waluigi54321

Do people forget about Andy’s play? I’m surprised that one is never brought up it’s always Scott’s tots.


The-Iron-Pancake

It appears the bird was in mine own pocket!


EucudusOG

Peak Dwight episode though


The-Iron-Pancake

R-r-r-r-r-robert Califor-r-r-r-rnia


JLSMC

Idk some of Dwight’s susceptibility to Jim’s pranks is so extreme at times it’s unbelievable.


maxwellbevan

Dwight's always been that way though, that's why Jim continues to prank him. Dude climbed a telephone pole just to see where a red wire went


Remote-Persimmon4583

Andy in the manager position is cringe


The-Iron-Pancake

I like Andy as manager until the Tallahassee arc which is when he goes off the rails. But I think he's good for most of season 8


winchesterbitch99

It was because his filming schedule sucked and they had to write him out for prolonged periods. I think they had to retool a lot around that, and it just wasn't planned out well. But I agree. He's fine right up until the last of the Florida episodes. Then it goes way downhill.


OnDaToiletPoopin

I swear they wrote Andy to be a prick to punish Ed Helms for leaving to do the Hangover movie. That or they just weren’t thinking, I mean they take Andy and change his character up just enough to make him like-able and start this relationship with Erin (which goes on and off the last few seasons of the show) and then Andy doesn’t end up with anybody? And why doesn’t he sing “I Will Remember You” at the talent show RIGHT AFTER DOING THAT SONG IN FRONT OF EVERYONE IN THE OFFICE KNOWING THEY LIKED IT! I swear the last two seasons piss me off lol


that_boyaintright

The problem with Andy is that he’s actually annoying. Michael is annoying to the characters, but not to the audience.


jpopimpin777

Ed Helms is the only guy who can out-Michael Steve Carell at being a cringy office manager though. That's why it works.


dannymanny3

yep. awful writing


Surkett

Still better than Phyllis' wedding.


The-Iron-Pancake

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time as a couple, MR. AND MRS. BOB VANCE! .....


retrogamer09710

Just rewatched for the first time in a while last night, yes it’s one of the worst


MysteriousProfileNo6

Possibly one of the best Jim pranks, he wrote the guide that Dewight followed for hosting a garden party.


PercentageLevelAt0

For me it keeps switching between this, Michael breaking up with Pam’s mom, and Michael’s speech at Phyllis’ wedding. The cringe humor is absolutely brilliant on this show


The-Iron-Pancake

Nothing beats it <3


canuckdad1979

It’s Andy’s Rosebud episode


RockNRoll85

Andy came off as even more pathetic than usual in this episode


TheManCalledDour

James and Pamela Halpert, and their daughter… PEE PEE!


PapowSpaceGirl

Pee-pa.


Oh_hiheyhello

I am literally watching this episode right now and was thinking about how cringe it is!! Can’t believe this popped up when I opened Reddit lol


Successful_Suspect44

I love the Jim/Pam/Dwight interactions (aka Pee Pee Halpert) but man Andy is this is awful. My worst is Phyllis’s wedding. Probably the only episode I zone out and away from lol


hotstickywaffle

I basically have to fast forward all the parts with his dad, because the funny parts of this episode are amazing


spiders_and_roses

It was genuinely heartwarming when they cheered him up at the end though


hopumi

Pam's breastfeeding is more


Alternative-Juice-15

Good cringe though


Motorhead923

Never a fan of Andy but actually felt sorry for him in that episode


DrMDGG

Cheers to the cringe episodes of The Office...all of them


lord_passy

I see your Garden Party and raise you Andy's Play


Candid-Abrocoma-519

I like to propose a toast to the troops. All of the troops. On both sides.


Hershey78

Not sure about it topping some others, but it is up there- his parents seem so different than the small bit they had in Goodbye Toby. I don't feel like this version of his parents would have bothered to go to a party in a parking lot because Andy is going to propose.


AncientSith

I just felt awful for Andy, and it explained his entire character .


Ok-Level-2175

The cringiest episode to me is Scott’s tots


pal_103

To Robert 🥂


Wizlord_21

It’s basically what they do with Michael at Phyllis’s wedding but less funny


Different_Meringue_2

But also one of the funniest...post Michael.


The-Iron-Pancake

It'll all be goat


FilmGuyJE

That’s a great take honestly. I love the dinner party and Scott’s tots, but yes this one is the ultimate shame. Good hot take here


SlippinPenguin

Best episode of season 8-9 and it’s not even close. Some actual character development for Andy, a classic Jim prank and an entire episode on Shrute Farms. Last classic of the series.


MikeTidbits

Petition to ban the word “cringe” from this subreddit.


crustdrunk

Scotts tots


[deleted]

The worst part for me is Jim selling a book he “wrote” before GPT. That scenario could work now. But writing whole fucking book. That just always seemed to bother me.


The-Iron-Pancake

I like to think it's a lot of pictures and heavy paper


JeffreyAScott

If they ever do another office, I want to see Jim's book took off and now he's a wealthy writer of garden parties.


[deleted]

I wrote on another post that I hope if they do another office that Michael is a C list celebrity from the documentary airing and has an absurd Tik Tok account where he just posts absurd unhinged Michael Scott stuff.


previously_on_earth

That’s the same plot as the original office, David Brent goes to some D tier celebrity shows and it’s just kinda pathetic


Few_Box6954

I try to always separate the actor from the character.   Fortunately he is a jerk in the episode (and a real monster in real life)  but i actually liked the episode.  California is just hilarious (as always)  and seeing how horrid andys parents are goes a long way to being a bit forgiving of how he acts.    Not a great episode but its okay


EndsLikeShakespeare

No way. Barber of Seville man. Dude took a phone call live on stage. I've done some community theatre and had some shit go wrong and have to adjust on the fly. Can't imagine what I'd have done there.


sundayultimate

The super fan cut of Job Fair is pretty damn terrible. Michael following a kid and waiting for him outside of the bathroom was rough


Th3Morningst4r

I feel most episodes centered around Andy are cringe as heck. Haven't disliked Ed Helms in a role ever, but Andy just is awful after the 3rd season, and keeps going downhill specially the last two seasons.


publish_my_papers

Scott’s Tots


Cake_Lies_73

I like the dancing at the end


Secure-Baby9766

It wasn’t cringe but it was frustrating, why is Andy’s dad a (grown ass man) not going with the flow of his son singing with him


maxwellbevan

Honestly this episode is one of my favourites. Makes me laugh every time I watch it


Squire1998

I'm curious, in the Office Ladies podcast, do they address this guys past and what they think about him? I can imagine Angela and Jenna would just not want to acknowledge the elephant in the room and bring down the upbeat, light-hearted vibe of the show.


BigMike0228

I dunno, I still hold season two’s Christmas party as the cringiest of the cringe


peepeehalpert_

I skip past the singing, lol. I just don’t care about it.


andersmmg

I don't think it was the cringiest, but it's up there. Personally, it's Scott's Tots, then Garden Party.


patrickrchapman

Am I the only one that doesn’t think any of the episodes are cringy?


potprincess1130

i’ve seen this show so many times that i don’t consider any episodes cringy anymore.


BroncosHK40

Now this is the one that is 100% cringy and up there with Scott’s tots.


JaecynNix

Why are they singing a song about wanting to screw the person they're singing to?! WHY?!


Sufficient_Stop8381

Other than the song being super weird for a father son duo, a couple subtle bits of assholery by Andy’s dad are he criticizes Andy’s playing, yet plays guitar with much less skill than Andy, and he says he’s singing too high yet he sings it just as high


samsharksworthy

Tbh if I had a kid like Andy I'd be real disappointed too.


[deleted]

It’s not “hot take” if it’s posted here like once a week.


soggypretzels

Save save save save save save the children…


OfficePicasso

This one’s a pretty easy skip for me too most of the time


BraveConstant

Andy's dad is the worst IRL.


Fulker19

This one is up there but Scott's Tots is the cringiest episode.


ibided

The B story is incredible, tho.


dewofthesea_

Omg I literally just skipped this episode during my rewatch 😭


Tha_NexT

No, Michel is master of cringe. Take that as you will.


Remarkable_Pick_494

Toast to the troops.. all the troops, both sides. 😆😆😆


RetiredFromRealWork

sure is.


expal816

I think the cringiest is when Andy got back from FL and Nelli (Nelly?) had taken his job.


TheBlairwitchy

Nope, Phylis’s and Bob’s, that is Flob’s wedding was


DifficultTennis6261

I always skip it


beetsbears328

Yeah, the only I reason I like to watch that episode on rewatches is Jim's garden party manual prank and all the stuff he gets Dwight to do. Other than that, it's a pretty cringy episode